A Good Podcast About Bad Relationships
As Brigitte made her way into the 1960s as a bona fide, worldwide celebrity, she found the experience was not especially to her liking. Where she had once strolled the streets of her beloved Saint-Tropez barefoot and happy, by the time she found herself pregnant and married for a second time, an army of photographers assembled outside of her home made her little more than a prisoner in her own life.
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In the final days of the no-good, very-bad year of 2025, the world learned that the iconic French actress Brigitte Bardot had died at the age of 91. Having achieved international stardom back in 1957 in the film And God Created Woman - a collab with her first husband, director Roger Vadim - she became a significant cultural export from France in an era where the rules that seemed to govern the conduct of ordinary people were increasingly being questioned and cast aside.
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Comedian and actress Amy Schumer had a bit of whirlwind romance with her husband, chef Chris Fischer. They married after just four months of dating, but seven years later - after a child, a round of IVF, various health challenges, an autism diagnosis - they've announced that the marriage has come to its end. But cleanly, and apparently very amicably. Are Amy and Chris role models for a good divorce?
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We live in an era where scandals often fail to make much of a dent in the reputations of the rich and famous, and today's story illustrates that this sad situation isn't really new. In 1870s Brooklyn, a famous preacher named Henry Ward Beecher had a problem in his private life. He was having affairs. Lots and lots of affairs. But it was his affair with Elizabeth Tilton, the wife of his close friend Ted, that would scandalize the nation - without ever delivering any consequences to Henry himself.
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Happy New Year, Trash Pandas! We're back, and so much happened during our short break that we wanted to get into the highlights - and lowlights! In the dumpster this week:
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In this encore from July of 2020, Alicia has screen legend Charlie Chaplin, who passed away on Christmas Day in 1977. His four marriages typify the line from Dazed and Confused, “I get older, they stay the same age.”
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Most of the world met Paul Hogan in 1986, when he starred in the smash hit film Crocodile Dundee. A sensation, the movie remains the highest grossing Australian film ever. For Paul, global stardom was the result of an entirely unexpected series of events that led him to a career as a TV funnyman, but what happened next did a lot of damage to his reputation - and marked the final end to his first marriage.
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This week, Alicia shines the spotlight on The Queen of Soul, Aretha Franklin. From her turbulent childhood to her career trajectory, with a few divorces and spiderwebs thrown in too, Aretha's story really does contain multitudes.
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In this encore mash-up, Alicia brings us the 90s-era heartbreaker split with the marriage and divorce of actors Emma Thompson and Kenneth Branagh. Then, Stacie continues the thread with actress Helena Bonham Carter, whose post-Branagh relationship, with director Tim Burton, began every bit as controversially as the one with Ken had.
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For a certain kind of political obsessive, the Trumpworld dispatches penned by Olivia Nuzzi in the first term were almost too on-the-nose. Still in her 20s then, her ability to paint the distorted, distorting figures that inhabited the era in prose was always interesting and often revelatory. And then, she fell in love with a subject, then-presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and her life, her job, and her engagement to fellow journalist Ryan Lizza imploded. A year on, the release of a memoir purportedly about these events has her back in the news, but absolutely nothing is going according to plan.
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When two visionaries meet, strange things can happen. So it was for Natalie Massenet, founder of upscale shopping site Net-a-Porter, and Swedish creative director and Frame founder Erik Torstensson. The high fashion power couple parlayed their early successes into venture capital projects - including Skims - and then shocked their world in August 2025 with a bombshell lawsuit from Natalie alleging all kinds of inappropriate conduct by Erik, her partner of many years. It appears that things haven't blown over so much as having been fastidiously swept under a designer rug.
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