Recorded live at the E21 Women’s Alliance NorCal event, Evie Rodriguez-Aleman sits down with Emma Pleune, Maddie Brown, and Dianna Nepstad for an honest conversation about what it actually takes to raise up the next generation of women.

They talk about spiritual motherhood, finding mentors outside your own age group, why younger women need opportunities to lead before they feel completely ready, and the responsibility older generations have to intentionally pursue and invest in them. The conversation also gets real about marriage, motherhood, ministry, the cost of saying yes to your calling, and why sometimes healing between generations begins with something as simple—and difficult—as an apology.

This is a conversation about making room for one another, giving the next generation real reps, and building relationships across generations that are rooted in honesty, forgiveness, and a shared desire to follow Jesus.

• (00:00) - Project Sisterhood
• (00:30) - Meet the Next Gen Panel
• (03:22) - Who Helped Shape You in Ministry?
• (04:59) - Stop Waiting for the Perfect Mentor
• (06:30) - The Women Who Pursued Emma
• (08:20) - How Older Women Can Reach the Next Generation
• (10:42) - Bridging the Generational Gap in Church
• (12:40) - Both Generations Have to Leave Their Comfort Zone
• (14:23) - Young Women Need More Than Their Peers
• (18:10) - Give Young Women Opportunities Before They’re Ready
• (19:09) - Why Young Women Can Be Hesitant to Lead
• (21:35) - Marriage, Motherhood and Calling
• (23:41) - The Real Cost of Motherhood and Ministry
• (28:43) - Apology, Forgiveness and Generational Healing
• (30:51) - The Apology That Changed Evie’s Perspective
• (32:24) - A Moment of Reconciliation

What does it actually mean to champion women in leadership, not just say that we do? In this Men of Faith and Project Sisterhood crossover, Chrissy Cole sits down with Caleb Cole, Tim Bittle, and Banning Liebscher for an honest conversation about men and women leading together in the church, ministry, and the marketplace. 

They unpack why women often enter leadership without the same years of experience or “reps” that men have been given, and why healthy leaders have to intentionally create opportunities for women to develop, fail, learn, and grow. Tim shares the moment his wife wanted to quit preaching after a difficult message and why he refused to let one failure become her off-ramp from leadership. Caleb challenges leaders to let obedience trump insecurity, trusting God with the results instead of allowing fear or criticism to determine whether they step into their calling.

The conversation also gets into some of the harder tensions surrounding men and women working and being discipled together, healthy boundaries, cross-gender mentorship, equal authority in leadership, and the church culture many Christians are still having to unlearn. Rather than pretending those tensions do not exist, this conversation asks what it looks like to become healthy enough to navigate them while building churches and organizations where both men and women can fully lead.

• (00:00) - Why Male Voices Need to Champion Women
• (01:05) - Why This Conversation Needs Men and Women
• (03:36) - Women Already Leading at the Highest Levels
• (05:58) - Why Tim Wrote a Position on Women in Leadership
• (07:54) - Healthy Leaders Matter More Than Gender
• (09:40) - Choose the Best Person for the Job
• (11:13) - Women Need Reps to Grow as Leaders
• (14:18) - You Don’t Get to Quit After a Bad Sermon
• (16:19) - Leadership Requires Playing the Long Game
• (17:04) - Obedience Has to Trump Insecurity
• (19:34) - The Real Tension of Men and Women Leading Together
• (24:09) - Objectivity, Discernment, and Healthy Leadership
• (25:29) - Rethinking Cross-Gender Discipleship
• (30:09) - Equal Authority Means Releasing Control
• (32:37) - Unlearning a Male-Dominated Church Culture

Physical intimacy does not exist separately from the rest of a marriage. In Part 2 of this Men of Faith and Project Sisterhood crossover, Caleb and Chrissy Cole continue their conversation with Jason and Stephanie Caine about scheduling intimacy, emotional disconnection, marriage growth, and the deeper issues that can show up in a couple’s sex life. Caleb shares why he says sex saved their marriage during a difficult season, while the group explores pride, insecurity, therapy, blind spots, withholding affection, receiving feedback, and learning to keep growing together.

• (00:00) - The Red Bow Signal
• (01:03) - How Often Should Couples Have Sex?
• (03:00) - Why Scheduling Sex Can Be Healthy
• (05:52) - Sex Starts Outside the Bedroom
• (07:09) - When Sex Problems Reveal Deeper Issues
• (08:26) - Caleb and Chrissy’s Disconnected Season
• (09:46) - Sex Saved Our Marriage
• (11:11) - Marriage Requires Constant Growth
• (12:34) - When Your Spouse Grows Before You
• (14:20) - How to Share Hard Feedback With Love
• (16:06) - Do Not Withhold While You Wait for Change
• (17:49) - How Will Your Spouse Remember This Season?
• (19:26) - Dream About the Next Season Together
• (22:03) - Be Gentle With Your Spouse and Kids
• (26:34) - Measure Yourself Before Criticizing Others

Marriage can be full of love and still feel lonely. In this Men of Faith and Project Sisterhood crossover, Caleb and Chrissy Cole talk with Jason and Stephanie Caine about getting married quickly, raising twins, surviving the demanding early years of parenting, and learning how to reconnect when marriage starts feeling more like survival. They unpack the importance of community, dating your spouse even when you do not feel like it, naming loneliness and disconnection honestly, and choosing committed love before the feelings catch up.

• (00:00) - Why Marriage Gets Hard After Kids
• (01:19) - Meet Jason and Stephanie Caine
• (05:30) - Married After Only Three Months
• (06:31) - When Twins Changed Everything
• (08:49) - What Premarital Preparation Actually Helped
• (11:06) - Why the Early Parenting Years Are So Hard
• (12:18) - Stop Trying to Survive Alone
• (15:06) - Be Honest About the Hard Seasons
• (19:27) - How to Reconnect After Survival Mode
• (20:05) - Date Your Spouse Before You Feel Like It
• (21:14) - Love Is a Decision, Not Just a Feeling
• (23:01) - Marriage Was Made to Fight Loneliness
• (24:49) - Why Men Struggle to Admit Loneliness
• (28:27) - Vulnerability Can Deescalate Conflict
• (29:15) - Why Humor Matters in Family Life

In this Men of Faith and Project Sisterhood crossover, Caleb and Chrissy Cole join Joel and Kate VanZanten for an honest conversation about marriage, insecurity, spiritual leadership, and becoming one. Drawing from 14 months and nearly 18 years of marriage, they discuss how marriage exposes pride and fear, why passivity and independence weaken unity, and how intentional connection, vulnerability, prayer, and adaptability help couples grow together. They also explore the difference between supporting your spouse and expecting them to become the source of your security, with a clear reminder to take your needs and insecurities to Jesus first.

• (00:00) - The Hard Parts Don’t Outweigh the Good
• (01:11) - Men of Faith and Project Sisterhood Crossover
• (03:19) - Marriage After 14 Months and 18 Years
• (06:22) - Becoming One Changes Your Identity
• (08:26) - Marriage Exposes What You Hide
• (10:16) - Marriage Is a Refining Commitment
• (11:25) - Insecurity Can Distort Your Marriage
• (13:15) - When Insecurity Produces Passive Leadership
• (16:28) - Inviting Your Spouse Into Life With Jesus
• (20:07) - Leading Together Under Pressure
• (23:41) - Intentionality Prevents Emotional Drift
• (27:19) - Learning Emotional Connection
• (34:40) - Connection Must Adapt With Every Season
• (40:08) - Personal Faith and Spiritual Unity
• (45:06) - Lead, Share Your Needs, and Be Vulnerable

Following Jesus often becomes uncomfortable when obedience interrupts the life we planned. Chrissy Cole and Kate VanZanten talk about calling beyond titles, the sacrifices involved in saying yes to Jesus, sharing the gospel in everyday life, and keeping Him at the center of marriage, family, work, and ministry.

• (00:00) - When Following Jesus Gets Uncomfortable
• (00:27) - Meet Kate VanZanten
• (01:03) - Young Marriage and Life on the Road
• (03:08) - How Kate’s Team Came to Sacramento
• (05:34) - Leading Young Adults on Mission
• (06:38) - How Kate Discovered Her Calling
• (09:52) - Your Calling Is Not a Job Title
• (11:43) - Does the Great Commission Apply to Everyone?
• (12:38) - Comfort, Convenience, and Obedience
• (16:37) - Why Mission Should Not Be a Special Occasion
• (21:30) - Finding the Mission Beneath Ordinary Life
• (23:46) - Saying Yes in a Season of Sacrifice
• (28:33) - Keeping Jesus at the Center
• (30:12) - Every Age and Stage Has a Purpose
• (31:19) - Loving the Lost and Sharing the Gospel

The pressure to know what is next can make us create vision, force momentum, or mistake anxiety for faith. Chrissy Cole and Gabby talk about planning without outrunning God, discerning obedience from a step of faith, building prayer rhythms before life gets busy, and choosing God’s presence over performance.

• (00:00) - Discerning Obedience and a Step of Faith
• (01:09) - Welcome to Project Sisterhood
• (02:23) - Savoring the Season of Motherhood
• (04:50) - The Community Growing Around Sisterhood
• (05:48) - Using Slower Seasons to Grow
• (07:38) - Why We Are Always Preparing for Something
• (10:21) - Planning Can Help Us Be Present
• (14:11) - Vision Boards, Manifesting, and Alignment
• (16:10) - Pray Before Creating the Next Step
• (18:55) - Obedience Versus a Step of Faith
• (20:30) - Looking for Direction Without Prayer
• (22:43) - Fresh Wind Requires Fresh Revelation
• (24:48) - Preparing for the Next Busy Season
• (28:37) - Presence Over Event Culture
• (31:12) - Planning for God’s Presence

Michaela Andrews joins Chrissy for an honest conversation about foster care, attachment, reunification, and making room before life feels perfectly ready. She shares what it has looked like to become a foster parent as a single woman, how community has carried her through the heartbreak, and why caring for foster families is part of the church’s calling too.

• (00:00) - Foster Care Is About Reunification
• (01:07) - Meet Michaela Andrews
• (02:35) - Why This Conversation Matters
• (04:27) - How God Started Planting the Seeds
• (06:20) - Waiting for the Perfect Season
• (07:38) - “It’s Time. Make Room.”
• (08:44) - The Process of Becoming a Foster Parent
• (12:51) - The Real Foundation of Foster Care
• (15:12) - Michaela’s First Three Years Fostering
• (17:20) - The Hardest Part of the System
• (19:12) - “I Would Get Too Attached”
• (22:01) - Staying Healthy Through Heartbreak
• (25:19) - How to Support Foster Families
• (28:36) - The Church’s Role in Foster Care
• (32:35) - What to Do If You Feel Stirred
• (38:45) - Foster Care Without a Savior Complex
• (42:03) - Final Encouragement for the Sisterhood

In this crossover episode of Men of Faith and Project Sisterhood, Caleb and Chrissy Cole sit down with Jarrod and Candice McEachron for a conversation on Christian parenting, spiritual leadership, and bringing revival into the home.

https://www.jarrodandcandice.com/

Jarrod and Candice share how God led them from years of ministry with FCA into a new assignment focused on helping parents raise Spirit led kids. They talk about obedience, fear, the Holy Spirit, morning prayer, family Bible study, and the conviction that parents cannot outsource their children’s faith to church alone.

This episode is a practical and powerful conversation for parents, pastors, ministry leaders, moms, dads, and anyone who wants to build a Christ centered home where prayer, Scripture, worship, and the presence of God become part of everyday family life.

• (00:00) - Stop Outsourcing Faith
• (01:39) - Meet Jarrod and Candice McEachron
• (06:04) - From Ministry to FCA
• (09:31) - The Call to Parenting Ministry
• (15:42) - Obedience, Jonah, and Risk
• (17:29) - Learning to Follow the Holy Spirit
• (21:23) - The Table of the Lord
• (22:34) - Why Youth Ministry Cannot Replace Home
• (25:41) - Morning Prayer With Kids
• (30:28) - Starting Family Bible Study
• (42:17) - What If You Are Not a Morning Person
• (55:15) - Faith, Risk, and Stepping Out
• (01:00:24) - How to Start Today
• (01:03:43) - Limiting Screens and Building Rhythms
• (01:05:15) - Where the Ministry Is Now

In this Men of Faith and Project Sisterhood crossover episode, Caleb Cole, Chrissy Cole, and Brandon Miller unpack what real leadership requires beyond talent, tenure, confidence, or a title.

They talk about humility, blind spots, self awareness, culture, emotional intelligence, and the difference between managing tasks and actually developing people. The conversation moves through church leadership, marriage, family, work, discipleship, and the responsibility of becoming someone others can trust and follow.

This episode is for anyone who leads at home, at work, in ministry, or in community and wants to grow into a healthier, more faithful leader.

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• (00:00) - Why Tenure Does Not Equal Leadership
• (00:52) - Men of Faith Meets Project Sisterhood
• (01:37) - What Real Leadership Requires
• (03:50) - Leadership Is Not Just a Title
• (04:42) - Humility Makes Leaders Curious
• (06:02) - Why Good Workers Become Bad Leaders
• (08:25) - Stop Doing Everything Yourself
• (09:08) - Culture Will Find You Out
• (11:08) - Give People Room to Fail
• (12:18) - The Blind Spot You Cannot See
• (14:33) - Self Awareness Is the Shared Trait
• (16:33) - Ask Trusted Friends the Hard Questions
• (19:10) - Leading From Your God Given Strengths
• (24:00) - Find Your Green Zone
• (27:14) - The Call Up for Leaders

What if control is not really about control at all, but about fear? In this episode of the Project Sisterhood Podcast, Chrissy Cole is joined by Caleb Cole for an honest conversation about surrender, insecurity, marriage, passivity, pride, and learning to trust God with the places we are tempted to control.

Chrissy shares openly about a season where fear and insecurity surfaced in her marriage, and how the question “then what?” helped her face what was really happening underneath. Together, Chrissy and Caleb talk about the illusion of control, the difference between leading and controlling, and how God uses uncomfortable seasons to bring healing, freedom, and deeper surrender.

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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/project-sisterhood/id1446342345

📲 Follow Project Sisterhood on Instagram:

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⛪️ Project Church:

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• (00:00) - The Mother’s Day Instagram Confession
• (00:15) - Welcome to Project Sisterhood
• (00:44) - Caleb Joins the Sisterhood
• (01:24) - Why Control Was the Mother’s Day Topic
• (03:10) - Are Women Unfairly Labeled Controlling?
• (04:21) - Fear, Pride, Jezebel, and Ahab
• (06:14) - Passive Control and Emotional Shutdown
• (07:39) - When Men Do Not Lead
• (08:19) - How Do We Break Free From Control?
• (09:00) - Choosing a Posture of Surrender
• (10:17) - Comfort, Convenience, and the Illusion of Control
• (11:37) - Surrendering to God and Inviting Others In
• (13:30) - The Fear Underneath Control
• (14:00) - Chrissy’s Honest Marriage Insecurity Story
• (16:29) - The “Then What?” Question
• (19:00) - When New Seasons Reveal Hidden Insecurity
• (21:00) - How Insecurity Creates Control or Passivity
• (23:37) - Stop Hiding From Love
• (24:41) - Caleb’s Book Recommendation
• (25:51) - Breaking Free From Control