- 14 minutes 45 secondsS6 Ep2: Why I Left. Why I'm Back. What Four Years Taught Me
After four years away, I'm back!
In this first episode, I'm taking it right back to the beginning, from press buyer to managing director of Social Chain, growing the agency from 30 to 130 people and 650% revenue growth, to working alongside Gary Neville, and now returning with a brand new chapter of I Shouldn't Say This, But.
I talk about how the podcast was born out of a need to build a personal brand authentically, why I stepped away, and what the last four years of personal growth, coaching, consultancy, and speaking have taught me about leadership, values, and knowing yourself.
This season I'll be sitting down with some of the biggest brands and leaders in the world, diving into AI, HR, finance, leadership challenges, and what really goes on behind the scenes of the fastest growing businesses.
Get ready because I'm back and I'm so excited!
I Shouldn't Say This, But is hosted by Katy Leeson
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I Shouldn't Say This But is back, and I've got a lot to say and share.
I'm Katy Leeson, former MD of Social Chain, founder of Courageous, and I'm bringing back one of the UK's top-ranked business podcasts with a clear mission: to help leaders and founders scale without losing their people or themselves.
No fluff. No performance. Just the stuff most of us won't say out loud.
Hit follow and get ready, new episodes are on their way.
1 June 2026, 6:00 am - 20 minutes 12 secondsS5 Ep15: Katy Leeson is Leaving the BuildingI Shouldnât Say This, But ⌠this podcast has taught me more than I could have ever imagined.
And this episode is going to be my last. At least for a while.
When I started the podcast 4 years ago, I couldnât have imagined the journey it would take me on, the conversations it would generate or the relationships it would help me foster.
Steven Bartlett had tasked me with creating a brand for myself, and I was determined to give it purpose beyond simply being a KPI.
As I sat down to record this episode, I knew that goal had been achieved.
So I hope you enjoy this trip down memory lane. And I hope it gives you an insight into why I do this, and I what I want to do next.
As always, thank you for listening.30 March 2022, 11:00 pm - 44 minutes 41 secondsS5 Ep14: We are all influencers: Natalie WillsNatalie Wills is the Global Director of Marketing at Zalando and a fellow advocate for the power of social media for good.
In this episode, we discuss:
- The importance of authenticity onlineÂ
- Why we are all influencersÂ
- What we can learn from the way young people use social mediaÂ
- The importance of leading with your values
- Zalandoâs approach of casting diversity of influencer talent and talent whose values resonate with their own
- The way social media is driving transparency in the real world
Natalie:
https://www.instagram.com/nattiw1/?hl=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliealisonwills/
Me:
https://instagram.com/katyleeson?utm_medium=copy_link
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katy-leeson-39931a53
https://twitter.com/katyleeson?s=2124 March 2022, 12:00 am - 42 minutes 6 secondsS5 Ep13: Entrepreneurship, community and the joy of work: Matt Clements and Giles HarrisonMatt and Giles founded Sculpd alongside their business partner Guy Vero at the peak of Lockdown, and have since sold over 100,000 at-home pottery kits.
Beyond that, theyâve built partnerships with some of the most influential brands in the UK, including Bloom & Wild, Missoma and Papier.
In this episode, we discuss:
- The challenges that come with building a business in Lockdownâ¨
- The role of social media in the formation of the Sculpd communityâ¨
- The importance of finding joy in your workâ¨
Matt and Giles:
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mattclements1
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilesharrison2/?originalSubdomain=uk
https://sculpd.co.uk
https://www.instagram.com/sculpdit/?hl=en
Me:
https://instagram.com/katyleeson?utm_medium=copy_link
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katy-leeson-39931a53
https://twitter.com/katyleeson?s=2110 March 2022, 12:00 am - 47 minutes 46 secondsS5 Ep12: Creating Change & Communities with Social Media: Daisy MorrisDaisy is the person behind The Selfhood - who makes digital interactions feel more human and puts connectivity at the heart of content strategies for brands and their audiences.
She birthed The Selfhood after noticing a huge gap in the market for business owners and creatives to understand social media and digital marketing in a fun, human and relatable way after spending years in the jargon filled world of ad agencies.
In this episode we discuss:
-The role of social media in creating change.
-The balancing act of finding a space to rest as a content creator.
-The importance of building community as people are desperate to feel part of something.
Daisy:
https://www.instagram.com/the_self_hood/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/daisy-morris-52742393/
https://www.theselfhood.com/about-the-founder
Me:
https://www.instagram.com/katyleeson/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katy-leeson-39931a53/
https://twitter.com/KatyLeeson24 February 2022, 12:00 am - 42 minutes 22 secondsS5 Ep11: Social media's role in the mental health fight: James RoutledgeJames Routledge co-founded Sanctus - Â a purpose-driven organisation that supports employee mental health through proactive and preventative one-to-one coaching in the workplace.Â
He is also the author behind âMental Health at Workâ - a book filled with stories, learnings and guidance for anyone on their mental health in the workplace journey.
In this episode, we discuss:
* The culture of permission arising around mental health
* Social media as a force for good in the mental health fightÂ
* Why rest doesnât only mean sleep
James:
https://www.instagram.com/jamesroutledge_/
https://www.instagram.com/jdroutledge/
https://twitter.com/jd_routledge
Sanctus:
https://www.instagram.com/sanctus/
Me:
https://www.instagram.com/katyleeson/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katy-leeson-39931a53/
https://twitter.com/KatyLeeson17 February 2022, 12:00 am - 34 minutes 10 secondsS5 Ep10: The Anxiety Coach: Chloe BrotheridgeChloe Brotheridge is an Anxiety Hypnotherapist, Coach, Podcast Host and Author who is dedicated to helping women free themselves from anxiety.Â
In this episode, we discuss:
- The importance of distinguishing your dream from the oneâs being pushed by other people
- Tips for a more purposeful and positive social media experience
- How we can combat our inner critics
Chloe:
https://www.instagram.com/chloebrotheridge/?hl=en
https://twitter.com/CBrotheridge?s=20
https://calmer-you.com/free
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Chloe-Brotheridge/e/B01MZEC2LL%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
Me:
https://instagram.com/katyleeson?utm_medium=copy_link
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katy-leeson-39931a53
https://twitter.com/katyleeson?s=2110 February 2022, 12:00 am - 50 minutes 41 secondsS5 Ep9: Social Media & Activism: Gina MartinGina is an activist, author and artist who uses her platforms to encourage real-world change.
In this episode, we discuss:
- The uncomfortable reality of activism
- The intersection of social media and activismâ¨
- The importance of setting work/life boundaries
- The changes social media companies need to start making
- Young peopleâs relationship with social media
Gina:
https://www.instagram.com/ginamartin/?hl=en
https://twitter.com/ginamartinuk?s=20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K_n-x-W7pY
https://www.waterstones.com/book/be-the-change/gina-martin/9780751577891
Me:
https://instagram.com/katyleeson?utm_medium=copy_link
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katy-leeson-39931a53
https://twitter.com/katyleeson?s=213 February 2022, 12:00 am - 30 minutes 3 secondsS5 Ep8: Social Media for Good: Jay FlynnJay Flynn founded the Virtual Pub Quiz back at the start of the pandemic, and is living proof of the power of social media to be used for good.
In this episode, we discuss:
- Jayâs incredible journey from pub landlord to household name (and the social media mistake that started it all)
- The challenges that have arisen as a result of digital stardom
- The impact of the Virtual Pub Quiz on Jayâs life
- The positive potential of social media
Jay:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLcSqjJWHJeDWD_SbdorBRw
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jays-Virtual-Pub-Quiz-Book/dp/1913406407
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jays-Virtual-Pub-Quiz-2/dp/1913406776/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_i=1913406776&psc=1
https://www.instagram.com/thevirtualpubquiz/?hl=en
Me:
https://instagram.com/katyleeson?utm_medium=copy_link
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katy-leeson-39931a53
https://twitter.com/katyleeson?s=2120 January 2022, 12:00 am - 44 minutes 21 secondsS5 Ep7: Do I Have Productivity Dysmorphia? Anna Codrea-RadoAnna Codrea-Rado is a journalist, author and podcaster whose article âDo I have Productivity Dysmorphia?â has changed they way both I and so many others view our achievements.
In this episode, we discuss:Â
* The impact social media is having on our view of successÂ
* The importance of finding joy in our free time
* The productivity dysmorphia trap
And so, so much more.
Anna:
https://www.instagram.com/annacod/?hl=en
https://twitter.com/annacod?s=20
https://www.linkedin.com/in/annacodrearado/?originalSubdomain=uk
https://www.annacodrearado.com/podcast
https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2021/09/10640493/what-is-productivity-dysmorphia
https://linktr.ee/yourethebusiness
Me:
https://instagram.com/katyleeson?utm_medium=copy_link
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katy-leeson-39931a53
https://twitter.com/katyleeson?s=2113 January 2022, 12:00 am - More Episodes? Get the App