- 41 minutes 51 secondsHow to Disagree Better: Julia Minson on Receptiveness and changing her mind on Transitions for minors
Host Alex Chesterfield and co-hosts Ali Goldsworthy and Laura Osborne interview Julia Minson, a researcher on disagreement, about building receptiveness and improving conflict conversations through practice, realistic goals beyond persuasion, and concrete language changes. Minson describes her background in competitive ballroom dancing as a metaphor for opposing perspectives, and outlines the HEAR framework for “conversational receptiveness”: Hedging, Emphasizing agreement, Acknowledging the other view with true paraphrase, and Reframing to the positive. She discusses applying these tools in schools and other real-world settings, and research questions about reputational rewards for receptiveness. Minson also shares a rapid, emotionally complex series of belief updates on gender transitions for minors, influenced by Utah Governor Spencer Cox’s arguments and later by meeting a trans woman, highlighting how minds change through human contact and context.
00:00 Third Rail Belief Shift
00:17 Show Intro and Guests
01:36 Co Hosts Takeaways
03:58 Ballroom Dancing Origins
07:50 Training Receptiveness Habits
10:34 How to Disagree Better
12:57 Start Small Not Hot Topics
15:53 HEAR Framework Language
22:36 Where Research Goes Next
24:47 Campaigning Incentives Tension
27:29 Changing Mind on Transitions
36:03 Environment and People Matter
38:14 Who Should Be Next Guest
38:55 Hosts Reflect and Wrap Up
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14 July 2026, 9:49 am - 49 minutes 1 secondDr Emma Yhnell on the challenge of changing science, changing our minds
In an era where scientific expertise is heavily scrutinized and algorithms trap us in ideological bubbles, how do we create the conditions for people to truly open their minds?
In this episode of Changed My Mind, we’re joined by Dr. Emma Yhnell, Reader and Associate Dean of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion based at Cardiff University. Drawing on her experiences running clinical trials and teaching in large university lecture halls, Dr. Yhnell explores the emotional complexities of genetic testing and the vulnerability required to challenge the consensus.
Plus, she opens up about her own profound shifts in perspective: why she completely re-evaluated why people at risk of terminal illnesses choose to avoid genetic testing, and the ethical dilemmas of encouraging young women into male-dominated science fields.
What you’ll learn:
- The Information Avoidance Paradox: Why only 10% to 15% of people at risk for Huntington's disease choose to take a predictive genetic test, and the profound emotional and psychological reasons behind wanting to not know.
- Science Communication as a Superpower: Why making complex academic research accessible to the patients it is designed to help is just as vital as the research itself.
- Opening vs. Changing Your Mind: The critical psychological difference between completely reversing your stance and simply creating the cognitive headspace to entertain an alternative view.
- Embracing the Pushback: How intentionally creating spaces for experiential learning and critique empowers younger generations to confidently dissent from the group.
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25 June 2026, 9:54 am - 43 minutes 11 secondsSaumitra Jha on why he changed his mind about climate change, and unexpected tricks that work to reduce polarization
In a political climate dominated by echo chambers, media polarization, and democratic backsliding, how do we actually get people to change their minds?
In this episode of Changed My Mind, we’re joined by Saumitra Jha, professor of political economy at the Stanford Graduate School of Business. Citing financial experiments in Israel, Palestine, and post-referendum Britain, Professor Jha shares both historical insights and behavioural evidence on how to bridge deep societal divides.
Plus, he opens up about his own profound shift in perspective: why he completely changed his mind on the relationship between global poverty and climate action.
What you’ll learn:
- The Power of “Skin in the Game”: Why giving people small financial stakes to trade in conflicted markets appears to bypass cognitive bias
- Swords into Bank Shares: How historical societies used finance to successfully pacify deep caste and political conflicts
- The Double-Edged Sword of Hero Worship: How the immense trust earned by a World War I General led his loyal network of soldiers straight into Nazi collaboration
- Climate Change is Not a Luxury: Why the traditional economic theory that environmental protection is a luxury reserved for wealthy nations no longer holds up
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17 June 2026, 10:28 am - 40 minutes 43 secondsGeorg Baumert - on how nature helps open your mind, and encouraged him to change his own
Georg Baumert, head of the German Borderland Museum's environmental education division, discusses the impact of the Greenbelt, a stretch of unspoiled nature along the former East-West German border, on teaching history. He emphasizes the importance of authentic, emotional connections to historical events, especially for young children and how learning from them has changed his own mind. Baumert shares how the museum's approach, which includes oral history and outdoor learning, has evolved to better engage visitors. He highlights the ecological consequences of the border, such as the creation of unique biotopes, and the museum's role in connecting past and present events, including the refugee crisis and the importance of understanding historical dictatorships. The conversation also touches on the need for more museums to adopt similar educational methods and the potential for international collaboration.
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18 September 2024, 12:22 pm - 45 minutes 3 secondsFernande Raine on the lessons we don't learn from history - and how to change that
The latest episode of Changed My Mind features Fernande Raine, CEO of the History Collab. We discussed the disillusionment of young people with democracy, emphasizing the need to make history engaging and relevant. She highlighted the failure of current history education to connect past events to contemporary challenges, leading to a lack of civic engagement. Raine shared her experience in Russia, where she observed a shift towards imperialism and a resistance to democratic change. She stressed the importance of intergenerational dialogue and the need for a systemic overhaul in education to foster civic skills. Raine also reflected on the challenges of changing one's mind and the necessity of collective action to safeguard democracy.
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18 September 2024, 12:21 pm - 45 minutes 59 secondsKatharina Weghmann - on how she realised business schools need to teach integrity and what leaders can do to instill it
Katharina Weghmann, a partner in forensic and integrity services at EY, discussed her evolving views on the role of regulation, particularly in sustainability. She emphasized the importance of regulation in driving corporate sustainability and ethical practices, contrasting her past belief in free markets. Weghmann highlighted the influence of business schools on future leaders and the need for humility and intellectual curiosity in leadership. She also shared her journey from marketing to ethics, influenced by the 2008 financial crisis, and her work with whistleblowers, stressing the importance of effective regulation and support systems for those who speak out.
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18 September 2024, 12:21 pm - 51 minutes 52 secondsAccepting American democracy was in mortal danger, with Cass SunsteinWorld-renowned behavioural economist Cass Sunstein on why dismissing his friends' fears about democracy being at risk in the US was wrong.
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9 November 2021, 3:11 pm - 42 minutes 10 secondsChanging your mind on the Iraq War with Ed OwenFormer advisor to the Foreign Secretary at the time of the Iraq War, Ed Owen, on why he now feels differently about the decision to go to war in Iraq.
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6 September 2021, 7:41 pm - 49 minutes 14 secondsRealising America's Criminal Justice System Was Broken with Jordan Blashek and Chris HaughThe Authors of Union: a Search for Common Ground on how an American road trip woke them up to the failings in the criminal justice system and the limitations of beloved media outlets.
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18 August 2020, 11:00 am - 43 minutes 20 secondsDanny Finkelstein on Changing Political AlliesDanny Finkelstein, associate editor of the Times and Conservative peer, talks to us about why being able to clearly see both sides of an argument is important but can also feel debilitating in a world that craves certainty. He shares his lessons from switching parties and why it is critical to reduce the cost of people changing their minds.
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6 August 2020, 11:00 am - 46 minutes 3 secondsPeter Geoghegan on Unaccountability and Returning HomePeter Geoghegan, author of Democracy for Sale and investigative journalist, left Ireland as a young man desperate to get away but has returned in lockdown to find a country much changed. He tells us why, from his childhood bedroom, and explains the need to dig deeper into unaccountable money in politics, in the UK as well as the US.
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