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Inside The Vatican

Inside The Vatican

America Media

  • 45 minutes 20 seconds
    Deep Dive: An American Pope–How it happened and what it means

    One year ago today, Leo XIV was elected the first pope from the United States of America. A year into his papacy, we examine how the U.S. evolved from a nation with a long history of anti-Catholicism to one welcoming an American-born pope, and why the cardinals defied a longstanding taboo against a pope from a global superpower.

    Interviews include:

    - Kathleen Sprows Cummings, the John A. O’Brien Collegiate Professor of American Studies and History at the University of Notre Dame

    - Christopher Lamb, CNN Vatican Correspondent and author of The Outsider: Pope Francis and the Battle to Reform the Church and American Hope: What Pope Leo XIV Means for the Church and the World

    - J.D. Long García, senior editor at America

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    8 May 2026, 4:43 pm
  • 50 minutes 33 seconds
    ‘Speaking fearlessly’: Pope Leo’s Africa Trip

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry O’Connell gives Colleen Dulle an inside look at Pope Leo XIV’s visit to four African countries. Between speaking out against corruption in Cameroon, denouncing inequality in Angola and visiting a prison in Equatorial Guinea, Gerry notes that Pope Leo never strayed from his central message of peace and justice—even when a Truth Social post from U.S. President Donald Trump threatened to overshadow it.


    0:00 Intro

    1:02 Why did Pope Leo go to Africa?

    5:20 Pope Leo visits the basilica of Augustine

    10:00 Pope Leo’s messages to Algeria

    14:57 Pope denounces corruption in Cameroon

    22:40 Leo visits conflict zone in Cameroon

    27:10 Leo urges church to speak out in Angola

    31:07 Angola’s unequal economy

    34:44 Equatorial Guinea gives Leo ‘colorful welcome’

    36:49 Pope Leo’s memorable prison visit

    41:47 Pope Leo in-air press conference

    47:41 Outro and credits


    Links:

    Pope Leo walks in the footsteps of St. Augustine in Hippo

    Pope Leo to Cameroon’s leaders: Break the ‘chains of corruption,’ invest in young people

    Pope Leo denounces those who use the name God for military gain

    Interview: Jesuit provincial on what Pope Leo’s visit meant for Cameroon

    Pope Leo: I am ‘not trying to debate the president’

    Pope Leo tells Angola’s Catholic leaders: ‘Never cease to denounce injustices.’

    Pope Leo calls on leaders to ‘bridge the gap’ between poor and rich in Equatorial Guinea

    Asked about regime change in Iran, Pope Leo says, ‘I cannot be in favor of war.’

    Pope Leo speaks on same-sex blessings, migration and more on plane back to Rome

    Pope Leo prays with Archbishop of Canterbury Sarah Mullally in historic encounter, vows dialogue


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    1 May 2026, 4:00 am
  • 35 minutes 4 seconds
    Vatican Diplomacy 101

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Archbishop Joseph Marino, former president of the Pontifical Ecclesiastical Academy which trains Vatican diplomats, joins Colleen Dulle to give a crash course on Vatican Diplomacy: Who are nuncios? What do they do? And what difference do they really make?

    Before the interview, Colleen also gives some updates on the week’s Vatican news.


    00:00 Pope Leo wraps his trip to Africa

    2:57 Meet Archbishop Joseph Marino

    6:38 Nuncios, the Vatican's ambassadors

    14:00 Do Nuncios have to be bishops?

    18:25 Political diplomacy and Vatican interests

    24:40 Vatican diplomacy before the Iraq war

    27:08 The Vatican's diplomatic toolkit

    30:15 Pope Leo's diplomatic approach


    Links:

    Pope Leo: I am ‘not trying to debate the president’

    Pope Leo in Angola: ‘Put the common good before partisan interests’

    Pope Leo to Angolans: ‘Build a country where old divisions are overcome forever’

    Pope Leo tells Angola’s Catholic leaders: ‘Never cease to denounce injustices.’

    Pope Leo remembers ‘the great gift’ of Pope Francis on the first anniversary of his death

    Pope Francis remembered by those who knew him

    Pope Leo’s delicate task in Equatorial Guinea: Bless the faithful, not the regime

    Pope Leo calls on leaders to ‘bridge the gap’ between poor and rich in Equatorial Guinea

    Pope Leo tells inmates ‘you are not alone’ during Equatorial Guinea prison visit at end of Africa tour

    Pope Leo’s powerful lesson in vulnerable leadership

    Pope Leo at year one: The progress of an American pope


    Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle 

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    24 April 2026, 4:00 am
  • 23 minutes 16 seconds
    ‘Don’t Take the Bait’: A Roundtable on Trump’s Pope Comments

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” America Editor-in-Chief Fr. Sam Sawyer, SJ, joins Vatican Correspondent Colleen Dulle and Executive Editor Ashley McKinless for a roundtable discussion on the recent comments President Trump and other administration officials have made about Pope Leo, and the pope’s response given en route to his tour of four African countries.

    In the first part of the show, Colleen gives an update on the papal journey across Africa.

    0:00 Intro

    0:25 Pope Leo in Algeria

    1:26 Pope Leo in Cameroon

    3:00 President Trump's words for Pope Leo

    4:20 Pope Leo's criticism of war

    5:40 Pope Leo's response to Trump

    7:50 U.S. Bishops respond to Trump

    8:47 Reactions to Trump's tirade

    10:30 Did Trump influence Leo's election?

    13:25 Don't take the President's bait

    17:05 Impact on U.S.-Vatican relation

    Links:

    Interview: What Pope Leo’s visit means for Algeria’s tiny Catholic population

    Pope Leo’s first trip to Africa: what you need to know

    Pope Leo in Algeria: ‘The future belongs to men and women of peace’

    Pope Leo walks in the footsteps of St. Augustine in Hippo

    Pope Leo on plane to Cameroon: St. Augustine invites us to search for God and truth

    Pope Leo to Cameroon’s leaders: Break the ‘chains of corruption,’ invest in young people

    Trump is trying to distract us from Pope Leo’s calls for peace. Don’t take the bait.

    South Africa’s Cardinal Brislin: Trump cannot silence Pope Leo or the church

    US bishops’ doctrine chair defends church’s just war tradition after JD Vance comments


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    17 April 2026, 4:00 am
  • 39 minutes 29 seconds
    Pope Leo: Trump’s Iran threat “unacceptable”

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry recap a packed two weeks of Vatican news, covering Pope Leo’s first Holy Week celebrations and his comments on President Trump’s threat to wipe out ‘an entire civilization.’

    After this episode was recorded, reports were published recounting a contentious meeting at the Pentagon between the nuncio to the United States, Cardinal Christophe Pierre, and Trump administration officials. Read more here: https://www.americamagazine.org/news/2026/04/09/vatican-pentagon-free-press/ 


    Chapters:

    0:00 Intro

    1:01 Pope Leo’s message to the wealthy in Monaco

    3:14 Pope says God ‘rejects’ the prayers of warmakers

    7:53 Pope Leo washes 12 priests’ feet on Holy Thursday

    12:01 Pope carries the cross through Colosseum

    15:07 Cardinal Pizzaballa denied access to Holy Sepulchre

    20:13 Pope Leo’s Good Friday call with Zelenskyy

    22:30 Pope Leo’s Easter appeal for peace

    25:11 Leo calls Trump’s Iran threat ‘unacceptable’

    30:17 Pope Leo’s trip to Algeria

    33:41 Leo to visit Cameroon, Angola and Equatorial Guinea

    37:01 Outro and Credits


    Links:

    Is there a Catholic revival? Pope Leo seems to think so.

    Palm Sunday: Cardinal Pizzaballa blocked by Israeli police from Holy Sepulchre as Pope Leo denounces war in Rome

    Pope Leo’s Holy Thursday homily: ‘In this dark hour of history,’ do not shy away from your mission

    The meditations at Pope Leo’s first Way of the Cross at Rome’s Colosseum: Connecting Christ’s Passion to modern suffering

    On Good Friday, Pope Leo speaks with presidents of Israel and Ukraine, calling for an end to war

    Pope Leo’s first Easter ‘Urbi et Orbi’ message: ‘Let those who have weapons lay them down’

    Pope Leo: Trump’s threat to destroy Iran ‘truly unacceptable’

    Pope Leo XIV to embark on 10-day Africa tour and trips to Spain and Monaco

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    10 April 2026, 4:00 am
  • 40 minutes 51 seconds
    Catholic women react to the Vatican’s report on women’s leadership

    In March 2026, the Vatican’s doctrine office released its final report on women’s participation in the life and leadership of the Catholic Church. The report brings to a close the two-year work of Study Group 5, which, as part of the Synod on Synodality, was tasked with studying women’s ministries and leadership. In this special roundtable conversation, editors at America magazine discuss the report’s content and proposals, and ask if the document changes the status quo for women in the Catholic Church.

    Featuring:

    Ashley McKinless, executive editor and co-host of the “Jesuitical” podcast

    Kerry Weber, executive editor

    Colleen Dulle, Vatican correspondent and co-host of the “Inside the Vatican” podcast

    Molly Cahill, associate editor


    0:00 The Vatican’s final report on women and ministry

    4:23 Women’s reactions to the report

    11:28 New ministries for women?

    20:05 The horizons and limits of women’s authority

    30:30 Will women be involved in decision-making?

    Links:

    ⁠The final synod report on women: what it says, what it means and what’s next⁠

    ⁠Where the women deacons question stands at the Vatican⁠

    ⁠Full Report of Study Group 5 on “The Participation of Women in the Life and Leadership of the Church⁠”

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    2 April 2026, 4:00 am
  • 40 minutes 53 seconds
    The inside story of Pope Leo XIV’s election

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle is joined by guest host Ashley McKinless for an interview with Gerard O’Connell and his wife and journalist Elisabetta Piqué about their new book, “The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis.” They discuss pre-conclave maneuvering, including organized resistance to Pope Francis's reforms, as well as their decision to report conclave details despite Cardinals taking oaths of secrecy.

    - 0:00 Breaking the secrecy of a conclave

    - 8:10 A Vatican journalist and a war correspondent

    - 12:04 Calculating the conclave vote tallies

    - 15:09 Pressure campaigns and conclave maneuvering

    - 22:17 How the cardinals choose a pope

    - 30:10 What the cardinals think of Pope Leo so far

    - 35:50 A touching personal story

    Links:

    The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis by Gerard O'Connell and Elisabetta Pique

    Excerpt: Behind the scenes of Pope Leo XIV’s election

    Backer of Cardinal Parolin attacks Pope Francis’ push for lay involvement in church governance

    Los puntos débiles de Parolin, el favorito a ser el próximo papa, y el secreto a voces de su relación con Francisco

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    28 March 2026, 4:00 am
  • 36 minutes 11 seconds
    Pope Leo is using every way possible to advocate peace

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss Pope Leo’s consistent statements pushing for peace and an end to armed conflicts worldwide. In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry unpack a few brief stories including Pope Leo receiving the Liberty Medal from the National Constitution Center, his new home in the apostolic palace and the Vatican’s appeals court’s decision for a partial re-trial in the “Trial of the Century.”


    0:00 Intro

    1:50 Did Pope Leo tell American leaders to go to confession?

    5:43 Pope Leo calls for ceasefire

    8:18 Wars are becoming video games

    10:53 Leo’s phone call with Palestinian president

    14:44 Pope Leo’s laser focus on peace and unity

    17:30 Vatican’s soft power in conflicts

    19:26 Pope Leo turns down invite to the US

    23:13 Pope Leo moves to the Apolostic Palace

    27:30 Update on the Vatican’s “Trial of the Century”

    32:34 Pope Leo meets with Gareth Gore

    33:26 Outro


    Links:

    What the Middle East needs: Not more bombs, but ‘hard, focused diplomacy’

    Pope Leo to journalists: Don’t become agents of propaganda during wartime

    Pope Leo to warring nations in the Middle East: ‘Cease fire!’

    Pope Leo to accept Liberty Medal and address Americans on July 3rd


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    Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle 

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    20 March 2026, 4:00 am
  • 40 minutes 19 seconds
    Is Iran a ‘just war’? U.S. Cardinals weigh in

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss comments from Pope Leo XIV and three cardinals on the Iran War, including one cardinal’s analysis of whether the conflict meets the requirements of a “just war.” In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry give an overview of the three synod study group final reports that have been released so far: on digital mission, seminaries and women’s roles in the church.


    0:00 Intro

    1:04 Pope Leo’s comments on Iran

    7:30 Cardinal Cupich warns against ‘gamifying’ war

    12:25 Cardinal David on war technology

    14:10 Cardinal McElroy on Just War Theory

    21:27 New papal nuncio to the U.S.

    24:33 Synod study group report on digital mission

    28:31 Final report on seminary formation

    31:46 Final report on women’s ministries

    36:36 Why did Cardinal Sako resign?


    Links:

    Register for Gerry’s book launch

    Pope Leo calls for a stop to ‘the thunderous sound of bombs’ in the Middle East

    Pope Leo praises heroic action of priest killed by Israeli tank fire in Lebanon

    Iran’s Cardinal Mathieu evacuated to Rome

    Cardinals McElroy and Cupich denounce Iran war: ‘War now has become a spectator sport.’

    Pope Leo appoints Archbishop Caccia as nuncio to the United States

    First synod final reports published: on digital culture and seminary formation

    The changing face of seminary formation: Group therapy, digital detoxing and more listening


    Follow Gerry on X: @gerryorome 

    Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle 

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    13 March 2026, 4:00 am
  • 37 minutes 13 seconds
    Why Pope Leo was ‘economic with words’ on Iran war

    On Saturday morning, Feb. 28, the U.S. and Israel launched strikes on Iran, killing its leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei along with other senior regime figures. The following day, Pope Leo appealed for peace, urging world leaders to stop “the spiral of violence before it becomes an unbridgeable chasm.” This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Veteran Vatican Correspondent Gerard O’Connell explains why he saw Leo’s comments as relatively restrained compared to John Paul II’s at the beginning of the Iraq War.

    In the second part of the show, Gerry shares a story from his forthcoming book on the 2025 conclave.


    0:00 Intro

    2:20 Vatican response to Iran war

    7:05 John Paul II on the 2003 Iraq War

    9:07 Pope Leo decries 'zeal for war'

    10:48 Archbishop Coakley speaks out on war

    11:30 On the Christian communities of Tehran

    12:50 Pope Leo talks on Hong Kong activist Jimmy Lai

    14:18 Cardinal Parolin's statements on the war

    19:00 What difference the Vatican make

    22:14 Stories from Gerry's new book on the conclave

    25:40 Cardinal forgets to give away his phone

    27:25 Cardinals unused to having no phones

    29:00 Behind the scenes of the conclave

    32:05 Is the conclave not 'top secret'?

    33:26 Outro


    Links:

    Pope Leo urges a halt to ‘spiral of violence’ across Iran and Middle East

    Cardinal Parolin on Iran war: ‘The force of law has been replaced by the law of force’

    Address of Pope Leo XIV to Members of the Diplomatic Corps Accredited to the Holy See, Jan. 9, 2026

    Against Unjust and Unjustified War with Iran

    I regret supporting the Iraq War. We shouldn’t repeat our mistakes in Iran now.

    Book Excerpt: Behind the scenes of Pope Leo XIV’s election

    The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis


    Follow Gerry on X: @gerryorome 

    Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle 

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    6 March 2026, 5:00 am
  • 41 minutes 5 seconds
    SSPX rejects Vatican dialogue offer

    This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell discuss the announcement of several new papal trips, as well as the Society of St. Pius X’s rejection of a Vatican offer for dialogue and what could happen next. In the second part of the show, the hosts look at the situation of Ukrainian Catholics and the Vatican’s efforts to help end the war on its fourth anniversary.

    • 0:00 Intro

    • 0:47 Papal trips for spring announced

    • 7:30 SSPX rejects Vatican proposal

    • 12:33 The extra letter to SSPX that Gerry saw

    • 17:30 Cardinals Muller and Sarahs’s warnings

    • 19:24 What’s next for SSPX?

    • 24:14 Fourth anniversary of war in Ukraine

    • 26:59 Vatican response to Ukraine peace talks

    • 31:02 Vatican’s humanitarian aid to Ukraine

    • 34:02 Situation of Ukrainian Catholics

    • 38:32 Outro and Credits

    Links:

    Pope Leo XIV to embark on 10-day Africa tour and trips to Spain and Monaco

    SSPX rejects Vatican dialogue, plans to consecrate bishops without papal mandate

    Cardinals Müller, Sarah urge SSPX to submit to papal authority

    Pope Leo calls for ‘an immediate ceasefire’ to the war in Ukraine

    Four years of war: ‘The Ukrainian Catholic Church is wiped out every time there is Russian aggression.’


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    Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle 

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    27 February 2026, 5:00 am
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