This week on “Inside the Vatican,” America Editor-in-Chief Fr. Sam Sawyer, SJ, joins Vatican Correspondent Colleen Dulle and Executive Editor Ashley McKinless for a roundtable discussion on the recent comments President Trump and other administration officials have made about Pope Leo, and the pope’s response given en route to his tour of four African countries.
In the first part of the show, Colleen gives an update on the papal journey across Africa.
0:00 Intro
0:25 Pope Leo in Algeria
1:26 Pope Leo in Cameroon
3:00 President Trump's words for Pope Leo
4:20 Pope Leo's criticism of war
5:40 Pope Leo's response to Trump
7:50 U.S. Bishops respond to Trump
8:47 Reactions to Trump's tirade
10:30 Did Trump influence Leo's election?
13:25 Don't take the President's bait
17:05 Impact on U.S.-Vatican relation
Links:
Interview: What Pope Leo’s visit means for Algeria’s tiny Catholic population
Pope Leo’s first trip to Africa: what you need to know
Pope Leo in Algeria: ‘The future belongs to men and women of peace’
Pope Leo walks in the footsteps of St. Augustine in Hippo
Pope Leo on plane to Cameroon: St. Augustine invites us to search for God and truth
Pope Leo to Cameroon’s leaders: Break the ‘chains of corruption,’ invest in young people
Trump is trying to distract us from Pope Leo’s calls for peace. Don’t take the bait.
South Africa’s Cardinal Brislin: Trump cannot silence Pope Leo or the church
US bishops’ doctrine chair defends church’s just war tradition after JD Vance comments
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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry recap a packed two weeks of Vatican news, covering Pope Leo’s first Holy Week celebrations and his comments on President Trump’s threat to wipe out ‘an entire civilization.’
After this episode was recorded, reports were published recounting a contentious meeting at the Pentagon between the nuncio to the United States, Cardinal Christophe Pierre, and Trump administration officials. Read more here: https://www.americamagazine.org/news/2026/04/09/vatican-pentagon-free-press/
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:01 Pope Leo’s message to the wealthy in Monaco
3:14 Pope says God ‘rejects’ the prayers of warmakers
7:53 Pope Leo washes 12 priests’ feet on Holy Thursday
12:01 Pope carries the cross through Colosseum
15:07 Cardinal Pizzaballa denied access to Holy Sepulchre
20:13 Pope Leo’s Good Friday call with Zelenskyy
22:30 Pope Leo’s Easter appeal for peace
25:11 Leo calls Trump’s Iran threat ‘unacceptable’
30:17 Pope Leo’s trip to Algeria
33:41 Leo to visit Cameroon, Angola and Equatorial Guinea
37:01 Outro and Credits
Links:
Is there a Catholic revival? Pope Leo seems to think so.
Pope Leo’s Holy Thursday homily: ‘In this dark hour of history,’ do not shy away from your mission
On Good Friday, Pope Leo speaks with presidents of Israel and Ukraine, calling for an end to war
Pope Leo’s first Easter ‘Urbi et Orbi’ message: ‘Let those who have weapons lay them down’
Pope Leo: Trump’s threat to destroy Iran ‘truly unacceptable’
Pope Leo XIV to embark on 10-day Africa tour and trips to Spain and Monaco
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In March 2026, the Vatican’s doctrine office released its final report on women’s participation in the life and leadership of the Catholic Church. The report brings to a close the two-year work of Study Group 5, which, as part of the Synod on Synodality, was tasked with studying women’s ministries and leadership. In this special roundtable conversation, editors at America magazine discuss the report’s content and proposals, and ask if the document changes the status quo for women in the Catholic Church.
Featuring:
Ashley McKinless, executive editor and co-host of the “Jesuitical” podcast
Kerry Weber, executive editor
Colleen Dulle, Vatican correspondent and co-host of the “Inside the Vatican” podcast
Molly Cahill, associate editor
0:00 The Vatican’s final report on women and ministry
4:23 Women’s reactions to the report
11:28 New ministries for women?
20:05 The horizons and limits of women’s authority
30:30 Will women be involved in decision-making?
Links:
The final synod report on women: what it says, what it means and what’s next
Where the women deacons question stands at the Vatican
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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle is joined by guest host Ashley McKinless for an interview with Gerard O’Connell and his wife and journalist Elisabetta Piqué about their new book, “The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis.” They discuss pre-conclave maneuvering, including organized resistance to Pope Francis's reforms, as well as their decision to report conclave details despite Cardinals taking oaths of secrecy.
- 0:00 Breaking the secrecy of a conclave
- 8:10 A Vatican journalist and a war correspondent
- 12:04 Calculating the conclave vote tallies
- 15:09 Pressure campaigns and conclave maneuvering
- 22:17 How the cardinals choose a pope
- 30:10 What the cardinals think of Pope Leo so far
- 35:50 A touching personal story
Links:
The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis by Gerard O'Connell and Elisabetta Pique
Excerpt: Behind the scenes of Pope Leo XIV’s election
Backer of Cardinal Parolin attacks Pope Francis’ push for lay involvement in church governance
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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss Pope Leo’s consistent statements pushing for peace and an end to armed conflicts worldwide. In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry unpack a few brief stories including Pope Leo receiving the Liberty Medal from the National Constitution Center, his new home in the apostolic palace and the Vatican’s appeals court’s decision for a partial re-trial in the “Trial of the Century.”
0:00 Intro
1:50 Did Pope Leo tell American leaders to go to confession?
5:43 Pope Leo calls for ceasefire
8:18 Wars are becoming video games
10:53 Leo’s phone call with Palestinian president
14:44 Pope Leo’s laser focus on peace and unity
17:30 Vatican’s soft power in conflicts
19:26 Pope Leo turns down invite to the US
23:13 Pope Leo moves to the Apolostic Palace
27:30 Update on the Vatican’s “Trial of the Century”
32:34 Pope Leo meets with Gareth Gore
33:26 Outro
Links:
What the Middle East needs: Not more bombs, but ‘hard, focused diplomacy’
Pope Leo to journalists: Don’t become agents of propaganda during wartime
Pope Leo to warring nations in the Middle East: ‘Cease fire!’
Pope Leo to accept Liberty Medal and address Americans on July 3rd
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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle discuss comments from Pope Leo XIV and three cardinals on the Iran War, including one cardinal’s analysis of whether the conflict meets the requirements of a “just war.” In the second part of the show, Colleen and Gerry give an overview of the three synod study group final reports that have been released so far: on digital mission, seminaries and women’s roles in the church.
0:00 Intro
1:04 Pope Leo’s comments on Iran
7:30 Cardinal Cupich warns against ‘gamifying’ war
12:25 Cardinal David on war technology
14:10 Cardinal McElroy on Just War Theory
21:27 New papal nuncio to the U.S.
24:33 Synod study group report on digital mission
28:31 Final report on seminary formation
31:46 Final report on women’s ministries
36:36 Why did Cardinal Sako resign?
Links:
Register for Gerry’s book launch
Pope Leo calls for a stop to ‘the thunderous sound of bombs’ in the Middle East
Pope Leo praises heroic action of priest killed by Israeli tank fire in Lebanon
Iran’s Cardinal Mathieu evacuated to Rome
Cardinals McElroy and Cupich denounce Iran war: ‘War now has become a spectator sport.’
Pope Leo appoints Archbishop Caccia as nuncio to the United States
First synod final reports published: on digital culture and seminary formation
The changing face of seminary formation: Group therapy, digital detoxing and more listening
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On Saturday morning, Feb. 28, the U.S. and Israel launched strikes on Iran, killing its leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei along with other senior regime figures. The following day, Pope Leo appealed for peace, urging world leaders to stop “the spiral of violence before it becomes an unbridgeable chasm.” This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Veteran Vatican Correspondent Gerard O’Connell explains why he saw Leo’s comments as relatively restrained compared to John Paul II’s at the beginning of the Iraq War.
In the second part of the show, Gerry shares a story from his forthcoming book on the 2025 conclave.
0:00 Intro
2:20 Vatican response to Iran war
7:05 John Paul II on the 2003 Iraq War
9:07 Pope Leo decries 'zeal for war'
10:48 Archbishop Coakley speaks out on war
11:30 On the Christian communities of Tehran
12:50 Pope Leo talks on Hong Kong activist Jimmy Lai
14:18 Cardinal Parolin's statements on the war
19:00 What difference the Vatican make
22:14 Stories from Gerry's new book on the conclave
25:40 Cardinal forgets to give away his phone
27:25 Cardinals unused to having no phones
29:00 Behind the scenes of the conclave
32:05 Is the conclave not 'top secret'?
33:26 Outro
Links:
Pope Leo urges a halt to ‘spiral of violence’ across Iran and Middle East
Cardinal Parolin on Iran war: ‘The force of law has been replaced by the law of force’
Address of Pope Leo XIV to Members of the Diplomatic Corps Accredited to the Holy See, Jan. 9, 2026
Against Unjust and Unjustified War with Iran
I regret supporting the Iraq War. We shouldn’t repeat our mistakes in Iran now.
Book Excerpt: Behind the scenes of Pope Leo XIV’s election
The Election of Pope Leo XIV: The Last Surprise of Pope Francis
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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell discuss the announcement of several new papal trips, as well as the Society of St. Pius X’s rejection of a Vatican offer for dialogue and what could happen next. In the second part of the show, the hosts look at the situation of Ukrainian Catholics and the Vatican’s efforts to help end the war on its fourth anniversary.
0:00 Intro
0:47 Papal trips for spring announced
7:30 SSPX rejects Vatican proposal
12:33 The extra letter to SSPX that Gerry saw
17:30 Cardinals Muller and Sarahs’s warnings
19:24 What’s next for SSPX?
24:14 Fourth anniversary of war in Ukraine
26:59 Vatican response to Ukraine peace talks
31:02 Vatican’s humanitarian aid to Ukraine
34:02 Situation of Ukrainian Catholics
38:32 Outro and Credits
Links:
Pope Leo XIV to embark on 10-day Africa tour and trips to Spain and Monaco
SSPX rejects Vatican dialogue, plans to consecrate bishops without papal mandate
Cardinals Müller, Sarah urge SSPX to submit to papal authority
Pope Leo calls for ‘an immediate ceasefire’ to the war in Ukraine
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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Senior Vatican Correspondent and Contributing Editor Ricardo da Silva, S.J., discuss the Vatican’s decision not to join President Trump’s Board of Peace, Pope Leo’s Lenten message, and the pope’s plans for the first Lent since his election last May.
0:00 Intro
0:35 Vatican declines Board of Peace invitation
5:06 Pope Leo’s Ash Wednesday plans
7:17 Pope Leo’s Lenten message
12:14 Inviting communities to listen during Lent
14:30 Pope Leo calls war a public health crisis
18:14 Pope Leo begins visiting Roman parishes
22:43 Altar girls serve at papal Mass
25:36 Recent appointments of women in Vatican offices
29:20 Pope Leo dissolves papal committee for World Children’s Day
32:11 Credits
Links:
Vatican will not join Trump’s ‘Board of Peace’ for Gaza, Cardinal Parolin says
Pope Leo XIV explains why Catholics fast during Lent
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This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell and Colleen Dulle are joined by longtime Vatican journalist John Thavis to discuss the strained relationship between the Vatican and the Priestly Society of St. Pius X, after the Society said it plans to ordain new bishops July 1 with or without papal permission.
0:00 Intro
1:08 Pope Leo travel updates
4:36 What is the Society of St. Pius X?
7:14 SSPX’s beginnings and beliefs
12:46 The 1988 SSPX bishops’ ordinations
16:48 Pope Benedict and the Latin Mass
22:24 Benedict lifts excommunications, offers autonomy
28:05 Pope Francis’s actions on SSPX and Latin Mass
30:34 Questions facing Pope Leo XIV
36:37 What do the Vatican and SSPX each want?
42:57 Update on Feb. 12 meeting with Cardinal Fernandez
44:00 Credits
St. Pius X Society to ordain new bishops without Vatican approval, risking excommunication
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Bishop Kevin Kenney was born in Minneapolis and has ministered to Latino communities there for years. Now an auxiliary bishop in the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, he speaks to America about the realities facing Latino Catholics on the ground and what the Catholic Church is doing to support them.
0:00 ICE outside churches and schools
4:45 How the Catholic Church is responding
10:00 Targeting criminals only?
11:45 Preaching during the crisis
15:12 Ministering to ICE
16:45 Latinos have enriched Minneapolis
18:53 Longterm effects
23:45 Pope Leo and prioritizing immigration
34:00 What Bishop Kenney is praying for
Links for further reading:
I’m a Minnesota Catholic mom. Here’s what my neighbors are saying about ICE
No more funding for ICE without reform. Congress must act
Bishop Tyson: Not all are called to be martyrs like Alex Pretti. But we can be witnesses
Minnesota Catholic Relief Fund
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