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  • 31 minutes 28 seconds
    2024 in Review: Why Miss USA is Imploding

    While the What Next team takes some rest, enjoy this episode, originally aired on May 16.


    When Miss USA abdicated her throne, people noticed that the first letters of each sentence of her resignation letter spell out “I am silenced.” Shortly thereafter, Miss Teen USA stepped down with a letter that opens with a quote from Nietzsche. 


    What’s going on at the Miss USA organization? Has the idea of a national pageant outlived its usefulness?


    Guest: Constance Grady, senior Culture correspondent for Vox. 


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    25 December 2024, 8:00 am
  • 28 minutes 54 seconds
    2024 in Review: Wait, Is JUUL Banned or Not?

    While the What Next team takes some rest, enjoy this episode, originally aired on June 12.


    Two years ago, the FDA announced it was banning JUUL nicotine vapes from sale in the U.S.—and then quickly announced it was holding off on the ban to allow for review. How did regulating ecigarettes end up playing catch-up?


    Guest: Jamie Ducharme, health correspondent at Time, author of Big Vape: The Incendiary Rise of Juul. 


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther.

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    24 December 2024, 8:00 am
  • 30 minutes 13 seconds
    2024 in Review: Would You Die For MrBeast?

    While the What Next team enjoys some rest, enjoy this episode, originally aired on August 15.


    MrBeast is known for videos that blend stunts and philanthropy, but his new team-up with Amazon and MGM is bringing some of his less savory aspects to light.


    Guest: Madison Malone Kircher, reporter covering internet culture for The New York Times


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther.

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    23 December 2024, 8:00 am
  • 33 minutes 53 seconds
    TBD | Influencer vs. Influencer

    One influencer working for Amazon sued another influencer who works for Amazon for creating content that looks too similar to theirs. But with how the algorithms work and reward, was this an inevitability? What does this mean for the economics of the influencer position?


    Guest: Mia Sato, reporter covering platforms and communities for The Verge.


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    22 December 2024, 8:00 am
  • 4 minutes 3 seconds
    Plus | A Karaoke Holiday With What Next

    For a very special holiday edition of What Next, Mary chats with Death Sex & Money host Anna Sale about the anthems they’ll be belting out the next time they do karaoke—and they take calls from colleagues and listeners about their own go-to barn-burners for this unsettled moment.


    You can find all these anthems (and more) on one Spotify playlist here https://tinyurl.com/whatnextkaraoke


    Guest: Anna Sale, host of Slate’s Death, Sex & Money


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    Podcast production by Madeline Ducharme.

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    20 December 2024, 8:05 am
  • 25 minutes 42 seconds
    TBD | Drones!??!!!?!!!

    Reports of flocks of drones, flying overhead nightly, are coming in from New Jersey down to Maryland. Are they UFOs? Nefarious foreign powers? Something even more pernicious? Something even more banal?


    Guest: Jon Ostrower, editor-in-chief of The Air Current.

    Ben Mathis-Lilly, Slate senior writer


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    20 December 2024, 8:00 am
  • 28 minutes 21 seconds
    Can More Grocery Stores Fix Food Deserts?

    How do you keep a grocery store open in a small or low-income community? The answer might involve regulating big box stores like Walmart and Kroger.


    Guest: Molly Parker, investigative reporter for Capitol News Illinois and a Local Reporting Network fellow at ProPublica.


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther.

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    19 December 2024, 8:00 am
  • 32 minutes 28 seconds
    How Trump Got ABC to Pay Up

    What ABC’s huge defamation settlement with Donald Trump says about the state of the media, heading into Trump’s second term. 


    Guest: David Folkenflik, media correspondent for NPR.


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    18 December 2024, 8:00 am
  • 31 minutes 1 second
    How Shaboozey Broke the Mold

    After a tepid embrace of Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter and a back-and-forth over Lil Nas X’s “Old Town Road,” country music fans are all in on Shaboozey’s “A Bar Song (Tipsy).” How has this hip-hop-inflected country hit perched atop the charts for a record-tying 19 weeks? 


    Guest: Chris Molanphy, chart analyst, pop critic, host of the Hit Parade podcast, and author of Slate's “Why Is This Song No. 1?” series and the book Old Town Road.


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    17 December 2024, 8:00 am
  • 30 minutes 45 seconds
    Make Hollywood Great Again

    The highest grossing documentary in 2024 was “Am I Racist?” from The Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh, and it’s not the only avowedly right-wing movie that’s enjoyed success at the box office this year. Is Hollywood going the way of the White House?


    Guest: Barry Hertz, Deputy Arts Editor and Film Editor for The Globe and Mail


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Rob Gunther and Ethan Oberman.

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    16 December 2024, 8:00 am
  • 28 minutes 27 seconds
    TBD | The Surveillance State Trump Is Inheriting

    Our lives, and our communication in particular, are increasingly conducted over the internet. This means we are increasingly able to be hacked and monitored, by governments, by the police, and more and more by anyone who can get their hands on the available software.


    Guest: Ronan Farrow, investigative reporter and producer of the Max documentary “Surveilled.”


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    15 December 2024, 8:00 am
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