• 31 minutes 44 seconds
    Does Anyone Like A.I.?

    Everyone would probably hate A.I. less if we could just see some upside to it. But despite all the investment—into the companies, into infrastructure like data centers, so much into marketing—it’s widely known: artificial intelligence sucks.


    Guest: Nilay Patel, co-founder and editor in chief of The Verge. 


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.

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    10 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 21 minutes
    Buy Your Flights Now

    The not-always-beloved-but-indisputably-useful Spirit Airlines has given up the ghost. What does this mean for the airline industry and your summer travel plans? 


    Guest: Will Guisbond, senior reporter for The Air Current.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.

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    8 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 28 minutes 11 seconds
    Look Upon Trump’s Works, Ye Mighty

    Donald Trump is spending his second term trying to cement his legacy, but he still hasn’t zeroed in on what that should be: Is it his name on monuments? A ballroom decorated in his specific style? Owning Greenland or whatever?


    Credit where credit is due, though, he’s already made a mark on the political discourse that will have the staying power of a jagged scar. 


    Guest: Michael Scherer, staff writer at The Atlantic.


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.

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    7 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 26 minutes 23 seconds
    Senate Dems: “So You’re Saying There’s A Chance?”

    Even with all that Democrats having going for them—mid-term elections typically favoring the out-of-power party, Trump’s sinking approval rates, even rising gas prices—it will be an uphill battle to wrest the Senate from GOP control. 


    Guest: Jonathan Martin, POLITICO politics bureau chief and host of “On the Road” a podcast about the 2026 midterms.


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.

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    6 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 28 minutes 38 seconds
    Her Life’s Work Became a Scapegoat. Now What?

    “Intersectionality” was one of those “DEI terms” that the Trump administration and Project 2025 were eager to do away with once they got back into power. But to understand what just happened to the Voting Rights Act, a little critical race theory would go a long way. 


    Guest: Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw, civil rights advocate, co-founder and executive director of the African American Policy Forum (AAPF), law professor at UCLA and Columbia, and author of many books including Backtalker: An American Memoir.


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.

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    5 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 28 minutes 7 seconds
    Can This Ex-Republican Win As a Democrat?

    Can a Republican Lieutenant Governor be reborn as a Democratic Governor? After failing to create a GOP 2.0, and being harried by Trump for admitting Biden won Georgia in 2020, Geoff Duncan has changed sides—and many of his old political positions.  


    Guest: Geoff Duncan, former lieutenant governor of Georgia and a current Georgia gubernatorial candidate who switched parties from Republican to Democrat last year. 


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.

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    4 May 2026, 9:00 am
  • 23 minutes 13 seconds
    Big Tech’s Climate Fight…on Pause?

    In the early 2020s, Microsoft committed to buying 75 million tons of carbon removal—somewhere between 70 and 90 percent of the entire carbon removal market. But the company just announced it was putting that ambition on pause.. 


    Guest: Robinson Meyer, founding executive editor of Heatmap News.


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    3 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 8 minutes 15 seconds
    Plus: Amy Goodman of Democracy Now—More than Ever

    One of independent journalism’s success stories and most charismatic advocates stops by to answer the question: “If journalism is so great, how did all of THIS happen?” 


    Guest: Amy Goodman, executive producer and host of Democracy Now!. 


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.

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    1 May 2026, 5:00 pm
  • 24 minutes 8 seconds
    Musk v. Altman

    This week marks the beginning of the jury trial between Elon Musk and Sam Altman. There are massive implications for the A.I. industry here, but at the end of the day, the question might just boil down to - who do people dislike more?


    Guest: Gerrit De Vynck, tech reporter at the Washington Post


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.

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    1 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 24 minutes 56 seconds
    The Death of the Voting Rights Act

    How Wednesday’s Supreme Court decision in Louisiana v. Callais ran contrary to the Voting Rights Act—both as written by Congress and as previously interpreted by the Supreme Court. 


    Guest: Jay Willis, editor-in-chief of Balls and Strikes.


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.

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    30 April 2026, 7:00 am
  • 30 minutes 4 seconds
    A ‘Michigan Mamdani’?

    Democrats are starting to let themselves feel a little optimistic about the fall midterms, which is just about time for the fight between the centrists and the slightly-left-of-centrist party wings to get ugly. But a candidate for U.S. Senate in Michigan is trying to sidestep another internecine fight by keeping his eye on the goal.


    Guest:  Abdul El-Sayed, Michigan Senate candidate, physician, former director of the Wayne County Department of Health, Human, and Veterans Services.


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    Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.

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    29 April 2026, 7:00 am
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