This week on "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan takes us to one of Europe's greatest natural treasures: Plitvice Lake National Park in Croatia. Beautiful ice-blue lakes and gorgeous waterfalls are lined with easy-to-navigate boardwalks, and hiking trails traverse the whole park. Plus, Ryan isn't moving to Austria as early as we thought!

Things We Talked About in Today's Episode:

Rick Steves is on tour!

https://www.ricksteves.com/about-rick/wheres-rick

Rick Steves interview

https://podcasts.apple.com/sg/podcast/rick-steves-is-back-for-episode-200/id1438098925?i=1000704427247

Plitvice Lakes National Park

https://np-plitvicka-jezera.hr/en/

Plitvice Hikes

https://www.afar.com/magazine/visiting-plitvice-lakes-national-park-in-croatia

Titanic drone show

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tv/video-3629983/Video-Drone-recreates-Titanics-historic-Belfast-departure.html

Map of art and cultural destruction in Iran

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2026/03/25/we-are-trying-to-preserve-the-memory-of-our-people-archaeologists-create-map-tracking-damage-to-iran-heritage-sites

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan recommends national parks for you to visit this summer, based on your preferences. Looking for zero crowds? Yearning for high-adrenaline action? Searching for variety? KPS unleashes his NPS knowledge.

Things we talked about in today's podcast:

Kiernan on NPR

https://www.wgbh.org/podcasts/the-culture-show/march-10-2026-shaina-taub-on-suffs-a-secret-boston-st-patricks-day-and-fabiola-mendez

National Parks of the Pacific Northwest

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/national-parks-of-the-pacific-northwest/id1438098925?i=1000442664674

State Parks with Peter Kujawinski

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/state-parks-with-peter-kujawinski/id1438098925?i=1000445675724

Things from up children's noses

https://apps.bostonglobe.com/2026/03/opinion/ideas/graphics/lost-found/

Burning PA Town

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/centralia-pennsylvania-rebirth

On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan talks about sheltering in place in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico during the 2026 Jalisco Operation.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-3608909/Tourist-stranded-Mexico-El-Mencho-operation.html

This week, as Kiernan is skiing in real life and Ryan is freshly back from Puerto Vallarta, Out of Office: A Travel Podcast takes a return trip. The boys talk about their holiday breaks and discuss why ski trips are well worth the expense and the steep learning curve. Plus, Ryan has a onesie.

Here's what we cover in this episode:

NYT on European Skiing https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/19/travel/europe-skiing-budget.html

Beaver Creek https://www.beavercreek.com/

Cannon Mountain in New Hampshire https://www.cannonmt.com/tickets

This week on the pod, the boys talk about their favorite food experiences, from Peru to Dubai, with a little Eastern Shore of Maryland thrown in. Plus, learn which European cities are the most densely packed and perfect for traveling on foot.

LAST STOP:

Ryan: https://www.travelawaits.com/3021526/most-walkable-cities-in-europe-from-new-study/

Kiernan: https://www.datarescueproject.org/save-our-signs-the-peoples-archive/

This week on Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan chats with Stephen Hiltner, the New York Times editor in charge of this year's "52 Places to Go in 2026." Stephen walks us through this year's top picks and themes.

Here's what we cover in this episode:

"52 Places to Go in 2026" https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/travel/places-to-travel-destinations-2026.html

"Top 10 Reader Favorites from our '52 Places to Go' List" https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/travel/places-to-go-readers-picks.html

Ryan's guide to a perfect Madrid weekend, whether Salvador Dalí is your thing or not. Museums, parks, palaces, and the restaurants you should avoid, with plenty of great food instead.

Eat Here:

https://www.instagram.com/gotawine/

https://www.instagram.com/marcelle_madrid/

On this year's Christmas Spectacular episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Kiernan and Ryan hang up their socks and trade merry greetings. They discuss the official death of the Ugly Ornament Competition, the history of British Christmas crackers (no, they're not crackers), and their favorite Christmas tunes (including a Ryan original).. And for the Anglophiles out there, the boys sing the praises of one of the US's best importers of British goods, happily located right in Acton, MA.

Things we talked about in today's podcast:

The Bee's Knees British Imports https://www.thebeeskneesbritishimports.com/

V&A Museum history of Christmas crackers https://www.vam.ac.uk/articles/the-christmas-cracker?srsltid=AfmBOopqIG_oE9tXOOtQdsUnnRHXaOH8bPLkOiNC52C9XAlXv0hzY_Kf

"Have Yourself an Out of Office Christmas" https://www.mureka.ai/song-detail/WX3PuAjGnrbg8mx41mThs2?is_from_share=1

"Scrooge" from the Muppets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULaNvmjZWxg

This week, The Boys unwrap their favorite book picks for the holiday season — from globe-trotting history to wild presidential tales to the secret life of gas stations in the American South. They also dig into new national park surcharges for foreign visitors.

The Books:

"Lafayette in the Somewhat United States" by Sarah Vowell — https://www.amazon.com/Lafayette-Somewhat-United-States-Vowell/dp/0399573100 Amazon+1 "Bolívar: American Liberator" by Marie Arana — https://www.amazon.com/Bol%C3%ADvar-American-Liberator-Marie-Arana/dp/006073509X "The Magician" by Colm Tóibín — https://www.amazon.com/Magician-Novel-Colm-T%C3%B3ib%C3%ADn/dp/0307952879 "Wilderness Warrior: TR and the Crusade for America" by Douglas Brinkley — https://www.amazon.com/Wilderness-Warrior-Crusade-American-Brinkley/dp/0066210372 "Rightful Heritage: FDR and the Land for America" by Douglas Brinkley — https://www.amazon.com/Rightful-Heritage-America-Douglas-Brinkley/dp/0812980040 "Dead Presidents: An American Adventure into the Strange Deaths and Surprising Afterlives of Our Nation's Leaders" by Brady Carlson — https://www.amazon.com/Dead-Presidents-American-Surprising-Leaders/dp/1631493952

On this episode of "Out of Office: A Travel Podcast," Kiernan talks to Richard Stone, author of "Project Mayflower."

Things we discussed on today's episode:

"Project Mayflower" book

https://bookshop.org/p/books/project-mayflower-building-and-sailing-a-seventeenth-century-replica-richard-a-stone/a3f94ee44f9babb4?ean=9781493084364&next=t&next=t&affiliate=books

Plimoth Patuxet Museums

https://plimoth.org/

Plymouth Rock

https://seeplymouth.com/listing/plymouth-rock/

Pilgrim Hall Museum

https://www.pilgrimhall.org/

Sail250

https://www.sailboston.com/sail250/

Green-Wood Cemetery New Yorker article

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/06/09/green-wood-cemeterys-living-dead

This week on the pod, the boys dive into their favorite museum heists, from Boston to Bogotá.