Tim Condon stops by to chat about Vapor 5, the biggest Vapor release in six and a half years. We get into dropping futures and promises for Swift concurrency all the way down the stack, Span and strict memory safety, and the new shared Swift HTTP server.

Guest

• Tim Condon
  • Tim Condon (@[email protected]) - Mastodon
  • Tim Condon (@0xtim.bsky.social) - Bluesky
  • 0xTim (Tim Condon)
• Vapor

Related Links

• Vapor 5 Beta - Vapor Blog
• What's New in Vapor 5 Beta - Vapor Blog
• Announcing the Networking Workgroup - Swift.org
• swift-http-server - GitHub
• Swift OpenAPI Generator - GitHub

Related Episodes

• Year of the Server with Tim Condon - Part 1
• Year of the Server with Tim Condon - Part 2
• Server-Side Swift with Tim Condon
• Who's Wendy with Joannis Orlandos
• Swift Server Workgroup with Joannis Orlandos

Chapters

• (00:00) - Server-Side Swift Today
• (02:29) - Vapor 5, Span & Memory Safety
• (13:38) - Package Flags & Dropping EventLoopFutures
• (18:36) - Streaming & the Swift HTTP Server
• (24:21) - VaporTesting & Macros
• (33:18) - OpenAPI & the Future of Fluent
• (38:48) - AI, Open Source & the New Networking APIs

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Stewart Lynch stops by to chat about using AI to learn faster instead of just letting it write your code. We get into planning in stages before you build, why Markdown is the universal language of AI, and the tiny "donkey work" tools he vibe codes for himself.

Guest

• Stewart Lynch
  • Stewart Lynch 🇨🇦 (@[email protected]) - Mastodon
  • Stewart Lynch (@stewartlynch.bsky.social) - Bluesky
  • Stewart Lynch - YouTube
  • Stewart Lynch | LinkedIn
  • Stewart Lynch - All Social Links
• Createch Solutions Blog

Related Links

• How AI assistance impacts the formation of coding skills - Anthropic
• Sosumi.ai - Apple docs as Markdown
• Typora - Markdown editor

Related Episodes

• How to Learn New APIs with Stewart Lynch - Part 1
• How to Learn New APIs with Stewart Lynch - Part 2
• Practical Agents with Donny Wals
• Everyone Thinks They're Good at Prompting with Joe Fabisevich

Chapters

• (00:00) - Xcode 27 & the New Device Hub
• (03:36) - Why YouTube Teaching Is Changing & Using AI to Synthesize New APIs
• (11:24) - Why Learn When AI Can Build It? Staged Plans & PRDs
• (16:29) - Markdown as the Universal Language of AI
• (22:07) - AI Costs, Hallucinations & Learning Smarter
• (27:48) - Xcode + Claude Code Workflow
• (30:53) - "Donkey Work": Building Small Tools With AI
• (35:55) - What to Delegate to AI vs. Control Yourself
• (40:22) - OS 27 Support, the iPhone Dual & Side-Project Playgrounds

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Jared Sorge stops by to chat about Arborist, his native Mac command center for Git work trees. We get into running agents in parallel with work trees, when to drop from SwiftUI down to AppKit, and selling a Mac app outside the App Store with Sparkle, Stripe, and RevenueCat, and somehow end up talking about the iPhone Duo.

Guest

• Jared Sorge
  • Jared Sorge (@[email protected]) - Mastodon
  • jsorge (Jared Sorge)
  • Jared Sorge | LinkedIn
  • Jared Sorge (@jsorge) • Threads
  • Arborist - A native macOS command center for Git repositories and worktrees
  • Taphouse Software

Related Links

• Arborist
• Baseplate - Track your LEGO collection
• Tower - Git client
• Nova - Panic
• mise - dev tools, env vars, task runner
• just - a handy way to save and run project-specific commands
• swift-subprocess - GitHub
• Sparkle - Software update framework for macOS
• RevenueCat
• Managed Payments - Stripe Documentation
• SQLiteData - Point-Free - GitHub
• Sharing - Point-Free - GitHub
• Swift Navigation - Point-Free - GitHub
• Introducing Claude Design by Anthropic Labs - Anthropic
• Mac-Assed Mac Apps - Daring Fireball
• Tuist
• XcodeGen - GitHub
• Shipaton 2026 - RevenueCat
• SwiftCon
• iOSDevUK
• Bushel - Mac virtualization for developers

Related Episodes

• Practical Agents with Donny Wals
• Everyone Thinks They're Good at Prompting with Joe Fabisevich
• The Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 2 with Ben Scheirman
• The Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 1 with Ben Scheirman
• macOS Indie Deep Cuts with Aaron Vegh
• Mac Dev in 2021 with Daniel Jalkut
• How to Learn New APIs with Stewart Lynch - Part 1
• Automation Fun with Jared Sorge

Chapters

• (00:00) - Why Work Trees
• (06:56) - The Idea Behind Arborist
• (11:14) - SwiftUI vs. AppKit
• (17:05) - Picking the Right Tool for the Job
• (21:27) - From Problem to Product
• (25:30) - Shipping Outside the Mac App Store
• (29:59) - Licensing, Sandboxing & Subprocess
• (36:30) - Agentic Coding & the Product Engineer
• (45:17) - What's Next for Arborist

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Saleem Abdulrasool joins us to chat about bringing Swift to Windows. We get into server-side Swift, SwiftWin32, Swift's C++ interop, and how to get started yourself.

Guest

• Saleem Abdulrasool
  • compnerd (Saleem Abdulrasool)
  • Saleem Abdulrasool (@compnerd) - Fosstodon
  • Saleem Abdulrasool (@compnerd) / X

Related Links

• Porting by a 1000 Patches: Bringing Swift to Windows (2019 LLVM Developers' Meeting) - YouTube
• Swift/Win32 - A Windows application framework for Swift - GitHub
• Swift/COM+ - GitHub
• Swift/WinMD - Windows Metadata Parser in Swift - GitHub
• Swift/WinRT - Swift Projections for WinRT - GitHub
• DXSample - Sample Program for DirectX 12 + Swift - GitHub
• vigil - A caffeinate-inspired power management tool for Windows - GitHub
• swift-winrt - Swift Language Projection for WinRT - The Browser Company
• swift-winui - Swift Language Bindings for WinUI3 - The Browser Company
• Install Swift on Windows - Swift.org

Related Episodes

• Who's Wendy with Joannis Orlandos
• Deconstructing Xcode with xTool with Kabir Oberai
• Full Stack Things with Werner Jainek and Vojtěch Rylko
• Swift on Android with Marc Prud'hommeaux
• Swift, Server Side, Serverless with Sébastien Stormacq
• Swift Server Workgroup with Joannis Orlandos
• Swift Package Index with Dave Verwer and Sven Schmidt
• Backend Decisions with Mikaela Caron

Chapters

• (00:00) - Why Swift on Windows
• (08:40) - Command Line Tools, PowerShell & WSL
• (16:35) - Server-Side Swift & Building Desktop Apps
• (24:46) - The History of Windows UI Frameworks
• (33:15) - Getting Started with Swift on Windows
• (41:32) - Interop, SwiftUI & Future Plans

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Music from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Donny Wals returns to talk through a year of agentic coding. We go through how it's changed his architecture decisions, reviewing PRs he didn't write himself, managing tasks and context across parallel agents, and the gym-workout crash he fixed from his phone mid-set — plus where he still doesn't trust the agent: SwiftData migrations.

Guest

• Donny Wals
  • Donny Wals 👾 (@donnywals.bsky.social) — Bluesky
  • Donny Wals 👾 (@DonnyWals) / X
  • Donny Wals (@donnywalsdev) • Instagram photos and videos
  • donny wals - YouTube
  • Donny Wals (@[email protected]) - chaos.social
  • Donny Wals | LinkedIn

Related Links

• Cursor - https://cursor.com
• Bitrise - https://bitrise.io
• Notion - https://notion.so
• Raycast - https://raycast.com
• Grill with Docs - https://www.aihero.dev/grill-with-docs
• Maxine - One Rep Max Tracker (Donny's workout app) - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/maxine-one-rep-max-tracker/id6615073254
• GRDB.swift - https://github.com/groue/GRDB.swift
• SundialKit (Leo's watch communication library) - https://github.com/brightdigit/SundialKit
• Fluent (Vapor's ORM) - https://docs.vapor.codes/fluent/overview/
• NSPersistentCloudKitContainer - https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coredata/nspersistentcloudkitcontainer
• Practical Core Data - https://practicalcoredata.com
• Practical Combine - https://practicalcombine.com
• Practical Swift Concurrency - https://practicalswiftconcurrency.com

Related Episodes

• Independence Update
• Everyone Thinks They're Good at Prompting with Joe Fabisevich
• 120% Likely with Cihat Gündüz
• Platforms State of the Union 2026 with Peter Witham
• Actually Really Useful
• Practical Year - Part 2 with Donny Wals
• Practical Year - Part 1 with Donny Wals
• Practical Entrepreneur with Donny Wals
• Practical Combine with Donny Wals

Chapters

• (00:00) - The Agentic Coding Shift
• (15:55) - The Gym Crash Story
• (20:54) - Architecting for Agents
• (34:04) - Task & Issue Tracking
• (37:40) - Core Data vs. SwiftData

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After almost 250 episodes, Leo gives an update on what he's working on and what he's interested in. From passive timer apps, static site generation, to sub repos and RSS feeds.

Related Links

• WWDC 2026 & Celestra
  • Celestra
  • WWDC26: What's new in the Foundation Models framework
  • WWDC26: Meet Core AI
  • Bushel
• swift-build
  • brightdigit/swift-build
  • Introducing swift-build (blog post)
  • Swift.org Nightly Toolchains
• At Least
  • At Least
  • brightdigit/SundialKit
  • brightdigit/SundialKitStream
• brightdigit.com Website Upgrade
  • brightdigit.com repo
  • JohnSundell/Publish
  • JohnSundell/ShellOut
  • JohnSundell/Ink
  • swiftlang/swift-subprocess
  • swiftlang/swift-markdown
  • kabiroberai/node-swift (NodeSwift)
  • Tailwind CSS
• git-subrepo
  • ingydotnet/git-subrepo
  • Ben Scheirman
• Community & Outro
  • Consultation (ZCal)
  • Patreon
  • Newsletter
  • Donny Wals
  • Saleem Abdulrasool (@compnerd)
  • Swift on Windows

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• Actually Really Useful
• 120% Likely with Cihat Gündüz
• Platforms State of the Union 2026 with Peter Witham
• Who's Wendy with Joannis Orlandos
• Milk Diary with Kaya Thomas
• Deconstructing Xcode with xTool with Kabir Oberai
• The Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 2 with Ben Scheirman
• The Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 1 with Ben Scheirman
• Hacking with Ignite with Paul Hudson
• Now You Know What I'm Doing This Summer

Chapters

• (00:00) - WWDC 2026 and Celestra
• (01:35) - swift-build
• (02:23) - AtLeast
• (05:26) - brightdigit.com
• (05:45) - git-subrepo
• (06:47) - Join the Community

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Software development has changed a lot. On today's episode, Joe Fabisevich talks about building with AI without falling into the trap of "work slop," why prompting is a communication skill, where Apple fits in, and Broadcast — his new Swift logging library for developers and AI agents.

Guest

• Build.ms
• Joe Fabisevich :verified: (@[email protected]) - Macaw-Social
• Joe Fabisevich (@mergesort.me) — Bluesky
• Github (@mergesort)
• https://www.threads.net/@mergesort
• fabisevi.ch

Related Links

• Artifacts | Fabisevi.ch
• Supporting Markdown Search For LLMs
• AI (Without the Hype)
• Workslop
• Being A 1.5-10x Developer
• mergesort/Broadcast: Simple and composable logging for Swift apps, servers, and coding agents.
• AtLeast — Passive Timer for Apple Watch
• MonthBar - Track your month's progress

Related Episodes

• 120% Likely with Cihat Gündüz
• Platforms State of the Union 2026 with Peter Witham
• Who's Wendy with Joannis Orlandos
• Actually Really Useful
• Practical Year - Part 1 with Donny Wals
• Plinky with Joe Fabisevich
• ChatGPTovski with Kris Slazinski

Chapters

• (00:00) - Work Slop
• (13:02) - Verifiable Tasks
• (25:51) - Building Agents
• (32:06) - Careers & Hiring
• (43:31) - Daily Setup
• (53:00) - WWDC 2026
• (01:09:07) - AI Economics
• (01:20:33) - Broadcast Logging

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Cihat Gündüz returns to break down everything from WWDC 2026. We go through Swift 6.4's quality-of-life wins, Apple turning Foundation Models into a full agentic harness, Xcode 27's agent and built-in skills, Device Hub, and where we land on the iPhone Fold.

Guest

• Cihat Gündüz (@Jeehut) / X
• Cihat Gündüz (@[email protected]) - iOS Dev Space
• Cihat Gündüz (@jeehut) on Threads
• FlineDev

Related Links

• WWDCNotes
• My Top 5 AI Wishes for WWDC26 – FlineDev
• FlineDev/SiteKit: AI-first static site generator written in Swift
• QwenLM/Qwen3.6: Qwen3.6 is the large language model series developed by Qwen team, Alibaba Group.

Related Episodes

• Platforms State of the Union 2026 with Peter Witham
• Actually Really Useful
• Swift Toolkit with Natan Rolnik
• WWDC Notes with Cihat Gündüz
• Hacking with Ignite with Paul Hudson

Chapters

• (00:00) - What's New in Swift & SwiftUI
• (09:09) - SwiftData
• (14:09) - Foundation Models
• (28:29) - Xcode 27
• (38:09) - AI Costs & the "AI Apocalypse"
• (48:09) - iPhone Fold

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Peter Witham joins us to talk about today's Platforms State of the Union. Is Apple Intelligence here? Is Liquid Glass here? Where's 
John Ternus? 

Guest

• Peter Witham - Developer, Podcaster, Streamer
• CompileSwift Podcast
• Peter Witham | LinkedIn
• Peter Witham - YouTube
• CompileDev - Twitch
• Peter Witham (@compileswift) • Instagram photos and videos
• CompileSwift | Facebook
• Peter Witham (@[email protected]) - C.IM
• Peter Witham - Compileswift.com - Twitter

Related Episode

• Who's Wendy with Joannis Orlandos
• Actually Really Useful
• Live from CommunityKit WWDC 2025 with Matt Massicotte
• v26.0 with Peter Witham
• Full Stack Things with Werner Jainek and Vojtěch Rylko
• SOTU 2024 with Peter Witham
• WWDC Notes with Cihat Gündüz

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Joannis Orlandos stops by to chat about WendyOS, an operating system for bringing Swift and AI to robots, drones, and edge devices. We get into running Swift on NVIDIA Jetson and Raspberry Pi hardware, the future of cross-platform Swift across Android, Windows, and Wasm, and somehow end up arguing about whether you should let LLMs format your code at all.

Guest

• Joannis Orlandos
  • Joannis Orlandos (@[email protected]) - Mastodon
  • Joannis (Joannis Orlandos)
  • Joannis Orlandos | LinkedIn
  • Joannis Orlandos (@joanniso.bsky.social) • Bluesky
• WendyOS — The open-source OS for Physical AI

Related Links

• Wendy Labs Inc. — GitHub
• WendyOS Documentation
• Swift on Server — Joannis Orlandos
• Hummingbird — Lightweight Swift web framework
• MLX — Apple's array framework for machine learning
• Swift Android Working Group — Swift Forums
• Build and Packaging Workgroup — Swift.org
• Swift Evolution
• Bringing Swift to Android — Goodnotes

Related Episodes

• Swift Server Workgroup with Joannis Orlandos
• Swift on Android with Marc Prud'hommeaux
• Swift, Server Side, Serverless with Sébastien Stormacq

Chapters

• (00:00) - What Is WendyOS
• (05:15) - Swift, Hardware & Getting Started
• (16:18) - Swift Everywhere: Multi-Platform Future
• (21:24) - Swift on Windows, SQL Server & WWDC Preview
• (30:19) - AI, Skill Files & LLM Workflows
• (42:30) - Swift 6.4 & Wrap-Up

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After ten months away, Leo's back. He covers Swift Craft 2026, the rest of his speaking year (Beer City Code, iOSDevUK), and his honest take on AI dev tooling. Plus updates on MistKit, SyntaxKit, swift-build, MonthBar, and a new watchOS app called AtLeast (in TestFlight now). He's open to work, offering free 30-minute consultations, and a live WWDC 2026 episode is coming. Subscribe so you don't miss it.

Related Links

• Free 30-min consultation — Zcal
• Swift Craft 2026 — Folkestone, May 2026
• Beer City Code — Grand Rapids, Aug 14–15, 2026
• iOSDevUK — Wales, September 2026
• AI Doesn’t Reduce Work—It Intensifies It
• AI-assisted development talk (Boston) — YouTube
• MistKit — GitHub
• SyntaxKit — GitHub
• swift-build — GitHub
• MonthBar — month.bar
• AtLeast — atleast.app (TestFlight)
• Bushel — getbushel.app

Related Episodes

• Ep 200 — Live from CommunityKit WWDC 2025 with Matt Massicotte
• Ep 199 — v26.0 with Peter Witham
• Ep 178 — SOTU 2024 with Peter Witham
• Ep 196 — Swift on Android with Marc Prud'hommeaux
• Ep 203 — Milk Diary with Kaya Thomas

Chapters

• (00:00) - I'm Back
• (00:43) - Conferences 2026
• (03:54) - AI in 2026
• (05:59) - Swift Automation
• (07:34) - Projects 2026
• (12:02) - Free Consultation
• (14:37) - Thank you

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Music from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)