Jason Frazier of Shred Media, brings you the Shred Marketer Podcast (Formerly The Agent Marketer Podcast). Frazier is a national speaker and award winning marketer that is all about cutting through the marketing noise and nonsense to give those working in the Real Estate and Mortgage industry help that will put them in the best position to succeed. We will talk about modern marketing tactics, lead generation, social media, funnels, Alexa Skills, and anything else that will help you KEEP CONTROL of YOUR DATA. Marketing will be the main driver of business now and in the future, so take advantage of the this opportunity to stand out from the crowd. Proud member of the Industry Syndicate.
This episode is a straight shot at the junk flooding your feed.
Frazier and Michael break down the rise of fake engagement posts, real estate mastermind nonsense, AI generated garbage, and why too many people are getting pulled into content that has zero value. From ridiculous Facebook group drama to obvious bait posts and recycled AI takes, this conversation is all about protecting your attention and staying focused on what actually matters.
The big takeaway: in a world full of slop, being real is your edge.
If everyone else is sounding the same, posting the same, and chasing the same fake engagement, the opportunity is simple. Be human. Be useful. Be different.
What You’ll Learn
Real Talk Quotes
Tactical Takeaways
✅ Not every post deserves your attention, your comment, or your outrage
✅ A lot of Facebook group content is built to bait engagement, not solve problems
✅ AI can help your content, but if it strips out your voice, it hurts your brand
✅ If your feed is full of trash, part of the problem is what you keep engaging with
✅ The more the internet fills with sameness, the more authenticity becomes a competitive advantage
Why This Episode Matters
Too many mortgage and real estate pros are burning time on garbage content, fake arguments, and recycled AI nonsense instead of building trust, authority, and real relationships.
This episode matters because attention is expensive now. If you waste it on junk, you lose twice. Once in the time you spent, and again in the quality of content the algorithm feeds you next.
The pros who win in this environment won’t be the loudest. They’ll be the most real, the most useful, and the most recognizable.
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The mortgage industry is buzzing about one headline right now: Veterans United is being accused of steering and deceiving military veterans.
In this episode, Frazier and Michael break down what the lawsuit actually says, what parts of it matter, and why loan officers should be paying attention.
This conversation goes deeper than industry gossip. It touches on the ethics of VA loan marketing, potential RESPA violations, and the bigger issue of how veterans are treated within the mortgage system.
The hosts also debate whether loan officers should talk about competitors publicly or if doing so only amplifies their brand.
If you work with VA borrowers, this is a conversation you need to hear.
What You’ll Learn
Why Veterans United is facing accusations of steering and deception
The RESPA Section 8 issue at the center of the lawsuit
How referral kickbacks and real estate partnerships may play a role
Why many loan officers have long been skeptical of Veterans United’s marketing
The difference between competitor criticism and consumer education
How VA-focused loan officers can use this moment to better serve veterans
Real Talk Quotes
“Veterans United is a marketing company that found a niche and exploited it.”
“If you’re the biggest VA lender in the country, you better not also be the worst one.”
“Don’t confuse VA loans with VU loans.”
“Just because something generates leads doesn’t mean it delivers value.”
“If you went to a calculator page and didn’t get a calculation… that’s not a calculator.”
Tactical Takeaways
✅ If you specialize in VA loans, educate borrowers on how the process actually works
✅ Use industry headlines as conversation starters, not marketing gimmicks
✅ Understand RESPA referral rules if your business involves agent partnerships
✅ Focus on service and expertise instead of competing purely on brand recognition
✅ Build trust with veteran clients through transparency and education
Why This Episode Matters
VA loans are one of the most powerful benefits available to military veterans.
When companies misuse marketing, misrepresent relationships with the VA, or create referral structures that may violate RESPA, it doesn’t just affect competitors. It affects the perception of VA loans themselves.
For loan officers who genuinely care about serving veterans, this moment is a reminder that integrity and education matter more than aggressive marketing.
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Compass pulled 500,000 listings from Zillow overnight. Redfin gets the inventory. Rocket gets the mortgage. And most loan officers are still asleep. Frazier and Michael break down the Compass, Redfin, and Rocket trifecta, what it actually means for your pipeline, and why the loan officers who have been building real relationships are going to be fine while everyone else scrambles.
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Look, we are going to piss some people off today. Good. That means we're doing our job.
Michael and Frazier are coming in hot on this one, and if you've been spending your weekends hunched over a laptop vibe coding some custom AI tool you think is going to crush it in 2026, you need to hear this episode right now. Like, stop what you're doing and press play.
Here's what went down. On February 5th, two new AI models dropped from OpenAI and Claude, and they weren't just updates. These were the first models where over 50 percent of the next version was written by the model before it. Read that again. AI is now building AI. And the pace of development just went from fast to absolutely insane. We're talking 12 to 14 days of growth cycles versus the 12 to 14 months you're used to seeing from normal tech.
What does that mean for you as an originator?
It means that whatever AI tool you're learning to build right now is probably going to be obsolete before you finish learning it. And the $497 course you signed up for to master it? Yeah, someone already blew that up with a new model release while the instructor was still recording module three.
In this episode, Frazier and Michael break down:
Why building your own AI tools right now as an originator is the wrong move, and what to do instead. The real threat AI poses to your business that nobody in the mortgage industry is talking about, and it has nothing to do with whether AI replaces loan officers. Why the blue ocean of teaching agents AI tools just turned red overnight, and where the next opportunity actually is. How Frazier's coaching clients are using a relevancy score system to cut through AI noise without wasting time or money. What Empower LO and the Broker Toolkit are building so that you don't have to, and why that matters for your bottom line.
And yeah, we go there on the bigger picture too. When AI starts eliminating the jobs of the borrowers you're trying to serve, who is going to be buying homes? The loan officers who built real, trusted, human relationships are going to be fine. Everyone else is going to be fighting over scraps.
This is not an anti-AI episode. We love AI. We use it every single day. This is a message to stop getting distracted by the shiny object and get back to the money making activities that actually build a sustainable business.
Use AI. Don't let AI use you.
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Fresh off MortgageCon, Frazier and Michael break down what made this event completely different from the typical mortgage conference experience.
From hosting the event inside Universal Studios to AI duels, practitioner-led sessions, and private park access, this wasn’t just another sit-in-a-ballroom event. It was immersive, high-energy, and packed with real, usable insights for loan officers who actually want to grow.
But beyond the experience, the real value came from the content. The recurring themes were clear: don’t lose your humanity in an AI world, stop being a product pusher, and start showing up as a true advisor.
This episode covers the biggest takeaways, standout speakers, and the lessons loan officers should actually implement instead of just taking notes and doing nothing.
No fluff. No hype recap. Just real insights from a high-impact industry event.
What You’ll Learn
Real Talk Quotes
“It’s still a mortgage event, but the experience changes everything.”
“Don’t lose your humanity just because AI is getting louder.”
“If you went to MortgageCon and didn’t get one takeaway, you chose not to.”
“Stop being a rate pusher. Be the advisor.”
“You invested the time and money. Now do something with what you learned.”
Tactical Takeaways
✅ Focus on being a trusted advisor, not just a product or price salesperson
✅ Use AI to enhance communication, not replace human connection
✅ Create content that answers real client questions you get daily
✅ Authenticity attracts the right clients and repels the wrong ones
✅ Events only create ROI if you execute on what you learn
✅ Community and experience amplify retention of education and networking
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Thinking about running paid ads in 2026? Pump the brakes.
Frazier and Michael are breaking down the truth about paid advertising — what works, what doesn’t, and where most loan officers go wrong. Whether you’re sitting on a 30K marketing budget or barely spending $300 a month, this episode is a tactical deep dive into interruption vs. intent, social vs. search, and why Google still wins if you're serious about ROI.
No fluff. No theory. Just straight talk on what actually drives deals — and what will drain your wallet.
What You’ll Learn
Real Talk Quotes
Tactical Takeaways
Why This Episode Matters
Most LOs are playing checkers when it comes to paid ads — this episode helps you play chess. Whether you’re doing consumer direct or trying to convert your social audience, you’ll learn where to invest, what to expect, and how to actually get deals from your dollars.
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You think that client is “yours”? Think again.
In this episode, Frazier (COVID-stricken but still showing up) and Michael (running on espresso and spite) break down a brutal but necessary truth: you don’t own the customer, you’re just renting attention.
From trigger leads to servicing transfers to Rocket buying Mr. Cooper, the guys explain why your feelings don’t belong in the pipeline and how whining about lost deals won’t get you paid. This is about controlling what you can control — and mastering retention like a pro.
If you’re tired of losing past clients and still blaming the system, this one will hit different
What You’ll Learn
Real Talk Moments
Tactical Ideas from the Episode
Why This Episode Matters
If you’re getting mad about losing clients, you’ve already lost. The game in 2026 is about connection, consistency, and control — and this episode will show you how to win it.
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It’s a new year, which means your feed is flooded with goal-setting posts, vision boards, and all the same recycled motivation. But here’s the truth: None of that matters without execution. In this episode, Frazier and Michael torch the traditional January BS and get straight to what actually drives success in 2026.
You’ll hear why most loan officers set goals that are more about ego than execution—and how that mindset will keep you broke and burned out. We break down the difference between real commitment and performative goal-chasing, and give you the mental framework needed to stop resetting your goals and start finishing them.
No gimmicks. No cute quotes. Just a full-throttle conversation about what it actually takes to win this year—and why headlines might be your best strategy yet.
💥 What You’ll Learn
🧠 Why This Episode Matters
This isn’t another “set your goals” pep talk. It’s the slap in the face you need to stop playing small and start leading with clarity and conviction. If you’re tired of fake progress and real burnout, this episode is your reset button.
In this special New Year's edition of The MLO Project, Frazier and Michael tackle two hot headlines shaping the future of the mortgage industry. From National Mortgage News’ prediction that 2026 will be the industry’s “reset year” to HousingWire’s deep dive on the growing dominance of DSCR loans—this episode is packed with straight talk, strategic insights, and zero fluff.
Frazier breaks down key takeaways from the “2026 reset” article, calling out the recycled advice on chasing shiny objects, while uncovering powerful truths about layered affordability solutions and compliance complacency. Michael fires back with a deeper look at DSCR momentum, TCPA liability, API key nightmares, and why brokers need to wake up about their exposure.
Whether you’re fired up for growth or still dragging from 2025, this conversation is your reality check heading into the new year.
💥 What You’ll Learn
🧨 Hard Truths Dropped
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Slide into Frazier or Michael’s DMs. This show is made for LOs who are done playing small.
Some of you need to hear this—not everyone in your life is helping you win.
That includes the guy on your LO team who complains every day.
That includes your "mentor" who hasn’t closed a loan since 2019.
And yes, that might even include family.
In this episode, Frazier and Michael break down a viral Growth Notes topic: removing toxic people from your business and your life. It starts with the clowns in your comment section—but it runs much deeper. From drama in Facebook groups to legacy LOs poisoning the office with fear and frustration, this episode is about cutting the cord and reclaiming your mindset.
What You’ll Hear:
Frazier’s Challenge of the Week:
✅ Audit your environment.
✅ Audit your circle.
✅ Audit your feed.
If it drains you, it’s gone.
You can't grow surrounded by people who hate growth.
Why This Episode Matters:
Most people don’t fail from lack of skill—they fail from the wrong proximity.
Bad energy is contagious.
And if you're trying to win in 2026, you better start cleaning house now.
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This one isn’t for the fragile.
Frazier comes in hot after a no-filter conversation with a loan officer who needed the truth and Michael is right there with him pulling zero punches. This episode dives deep into the entitlement mindset plaguing LOs in today’s market. Just because you used to be good doesn’t mean you still are. Nobody owes you leads, results, or respect just because you show up.
It’s about time we said it out loud:
The reason you’re losing has nothing to do with rates or realtors. It has everything to do with your standards.
From weak routines to second-guessing your own value, this episode will either shake you awake or offend you. Either way, it’s exactly what the middle of the market needs to hear.
🔥 What You’ll Hear:
🎯 Frazier’s Challenge of the Week:
✅ One full day.
✅ 100% effort.
✅ Zero excuses.
Can you actually give all of you for just one day? If not, stop saying you want to win.
💥 Why This Episode Matters:
This market is hard. But winning is still possible.
And the ones who will win?
They’re the ones who stop whining, stop waiting, and start working like they mean it.
If this one hit you hard, that’s the point.
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