- 1 hour 7 minutesAnthony Scaramucci - My Biggest Failure? Working For Donald Trump
Scaramucci’s 11-day tenure as the White House Communications Chief under President Donald Trump’s first term ended in a blaze of recrimination. Scaramucci was advised by a PR consultant to disappear for five years. He refused - and reinvented his career.
Now, he is the co-host of the US version of The Rest is Politics podcast alongside British journalist Katty Kay.
After Harvard Law School, he joined Goldman Sachs and built a career in finance, eventually founding the investment firm SkyBridge Capital.
In this revealing conversation we discuss what working on Wall Street in the 80s was like, getting fired from Goldman Sachs, his failed first marriage, not being there for his son’s birth, getting fired from The White House and rebuilding his current marriage.
His book, All the Wrong Moves, looks at how three catastrophic decisions and years of ‘sh*tshow politics’ led to Trump.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Introduction montage
03:22 Learning optimism and pronoia
05:02 Self forgiveness after failure
06:40 Growing up and getting to Tufts
11:58 Why he wrote the book
14:03 Fired then rehired at Goldman
25:23 Money mindset and marriage cracks
30:48 Work Taxes Burnout
31:26 Marriage Neglect Regrets
34:07 Conflict Avoidance Trap
34:55 Affair Self Forgiveness
37:46 Fatherhood After Divorce
40:44 Trump Ego Decision
45:00 Firing from The Whitehouse
57:03 Rebuilding and Looking Ahead
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
When bad things happen, take a step back, and get into a channel that is the adult channel. Act in a rational way.
I trained my brain to be optimistic.
If you’re not careful, wealth can make you very depressed and lonely.
Trump's bullying reminded me of my dad… but I was better prepared for it.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Anthony’s book, All the Wrong Moves, is available to buy now: www.penguin.co.uk/books/476667/all-the-wrong-moves-by-scaramucci-anthony/9781847929235
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14 October 2026, 4:00 am - 38 minutes 28 secondsLuke Evans, Sarah Solemani & Elizabeth Day: The Making of The Party
Luke Evans and Sarah Solemani join Elizabeth to talk about the journey of Elizabeth’s 2017 novel The Party to its new five-part ITV adaptation.
Luke stars as the show’s protagonist, Martin Gilmour, and Sarah stars as his wife, Lucy… oh and she also brilliantly adapted the novel for screen.
The trio discuss the making of this exciting new drama for TV, how Luke discovered the book and kick-started the process and what the show is about. They discuss themes including: sexuality, the class system in the UK, shame, women leading production, culture on sets in today’s world and friendship.
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IN THIS EPISODE
00:00 Introduction
01:42 Luke Discovers the Novel
02:51 Finding the Screenwriter
04:45 Adapting Into Five Episodes
07:13 What The Party Is About
09:44 Casting Lucy and Onscreen Marriage
13:04 Collaboration and Set Rewrites
18:09 Women Leading the Production
19:35 Set Culture and Final Day Speech
21:15 Author Visits Set and Craft Details
22:26 Friendship, Desire and Identity
25:08 Class, Shame and Final Takeaways
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The Party starts Sunday 11th October 9pm on ITV1 and ITVX. The series airs for three consecutive nights: Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, concluding with the fourth and final episode the following Sunday 18th and Monday 19th. Or you can binge all five episodes on ITVX.
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12 October 2026, 4:00 am - 58 minutes 42 secondsBonnie Garmus - ‘Adoption Gave Us A Family’
Bonnie Garmus was 64 when her debut novel, Lessons in Chemistry, was published. It went on to sell more than eight million copies, spend almost two years on the New York Times bestseller list, was translated into more than 40 languages and become an eight-part Apple TV+ series. At its centre was Elizabeth Zott, a fiercely intelligent, forthright chemist turned 1950s TV cooking star.
Bonnie and I talk about the misogyny that inspired Lessons in Chemistry, her love of dogs, working through a stutter, adopting her two daughters from China and what it took to overcome years of rejection.
Her new novel, Peck & Peck, is out in the UK on 13 October.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Intro
03:41 Arts Versus Science
05:44 Sexism Sparks Novel
08:58 Greed And AI Warning
12:19 Dogs Behind Characters
16:30 Childhood Failures
30:26 Living With A Stutter
31:50 Letters And Workarounds
32:53 Adoption Journey To China
36:10 What Adoption Really Means
37:23 Family Bonds And Fate
39:17 Jeopardy Husband Spotlight
40:10 98 Rejections And Resilience
47:05 Finding An Agent And Writing Life
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
I’ve had a lot of dogs in my life, and not a single one has disappointed me.
I never look back on my career and think I have regrets.
I had a therapist who was a stutterer… he gave me the courage to embrace it, and then I got better.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Bonnie’s new novel Peck & Peck is available to pre-order now: www.waterstones.com/book/peck-and-peck/bonnie-garmus/9781786588975
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7 October 2026, 4:00 pm - 56 minutes 57 secondsRussell T Davies - On Dr Who, Grief and Gay Representation on TV
Russell T Davies has spent decades creating some of Britain’s most beloved and groundbreaking television. After studying English at Oxford, he went from writing for children’s programmes and Coronation Street to creating Queer As Folk in 1999 - a show that changed the conversation around gay representation on TV. Since then, he’s written hit after hit, from Bob & Rose and A Very English Scandal to Years and Years, It’s A Sin and his hugely successful revival of Doctor Who. He’s won four BAFTAs and was awarded an OBE in 2008.
In this episode we talk about where his obsession and passion for TV came from, how his exceptionally busy mind works, losing his husband to a brain tumour, his love of Dr Who and…finding love again.
His new memoir, The Queerest of Folk, is out on 8th October.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Intro
02:35 TV Obsession Origins
03:24 Memoir and Andrew
08:35 AIDS and Its a Sin
10:36 Queer as Folk Shockwaves
12:37 Failure to Drive
16:45 Writing in Images
28:05 Early Illustration Gigs
28:54 Obsessed With Drawing
30:20 Losing the Habit
31:52 Comics and Story Beats
33:54 Writing Geniuses Doctor Who
37:13 Staying a Fan
41:41 Legacy and Family Roots
49:59 Aging Love and Goodbye
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
When I dream I invent people who don’t exist.
I’ve saved for decades, I saved for a rainy day, and then one day it rained.
Please never get rid of the Tardis.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Russell’s memoir, The Queerest Of Folk is available to buy now: uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-queerest-of-folk-a-life-in-television-russell-t-davies/a290496f474a1f8c
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30 September 2026, 4:00 am - 51 minutes 31 secondsSir Paul Smith - ‘People In Fashion Are Insecure’
Sir Paul Smith is one of Britain’s most iconic fashion designers, renowned for his sharp tailoring and his sartorial flair. His clothes have an innate sense of mischief: brightly coloured linings, unexpected stripes and a determination never to take themselves too seriously. His devoted clients include Gary Oldman, Bill Nighy and Matty Healy, who wore a Paul Smith suit for his recent wedding.
Behind the stripes and the suits is a man with a simple life philosophy: stay humble, work hard, be kind. On this episode we talk about the cycling accident that set him on a path to fashion and how he’s kept his global business independent for 56 years. Plus, the secret to a long marriage, what tailoring teaches him about people’s insecurities - and why he wore a suit every day during the Covid lockdowns.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Intro
03:40 Tailoring for Everyone
06:48 The Pink Wall Story
08:31 Stripes and Reinvention
10:20 Turning 80
11:33 Cycling Freedom and Family
18:20 Crash That Changed Everything
24:20 Pauline Sets The Standard
25:19 Keeping Love And Work Balanced
26:19 Step Parenting And Playfulness
27:28 The Trap Of Comparison
32:43 Brexit COVID And Staying Independent
36:02 Choosing The Right Collaborations
37:21 Believing Your Own Hype
42:47 Creativity Legacy And Farewell
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
Pauline [my wife] set the standard - it’s been very important for longevity.
A successful relationship is about balance. Knowing when to talk, when to listen… and have both feet on the ground.
The danger is losing your focus, and worrying too much about ‘them’.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Sir Paul Smith’s Memoir ‘Threads’ is available to buy now: www.paulsmith.com/uk/threads-by-sir-paul-smith-special-edition-book
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23 September 2026, 4:00 am - 58 minutes 48 secondsLouise O’Neill - ‘Full Recovery Is Possible’
This episode contains references to and descriptions of eating disorders.
Louise O’Neill is a bestselling, award-winning Irish author whose fearless writing has helped shape modern feminism. Her fiction is taught on the Irish curriculum and Paul Mescal starred in a critically acclaimed stage adaptation of her work. Her second novel, Asking For It, catapulted her into the public eye in 2015.
Now, with her eighth book, A Bigger Life, O’Neill turns that same unflinching gaze on herself. Her memoir follows the extraordinary dating experiment she embarked on in her late 30s after the end of a long-term relationship: dating a different man every night, across three cities - Paris, London and New York. What began as a challenge, inspired by something her father said, became an unexpected journey of self-discovery.
In this episode we discuss topics covered in her memoir, A Bigger Life, including: finding hope after heartbreak, pressure on women, extraordinary dating experiences and recovering from a debilitating two-decade-long eating disorder.
A Bigger Life is out this month.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Introduction
03:24 Writing Her First Memoir
04:58 Roots in West Cork
08:21 Dating for a Bigger Life
09:26 Choosing Hope After Heartbreak
13:22 Marriage Expectations and Milestones
16:57 Beauty Pressure and Aging Fears
27:12 Fear of Vulnerability
28:48 Aging and Shame
30:34 Trusting Your Instincts
33:35 The Millionaire Date
36:40 Recovery After 17 Years
42:57 Rewiring the Mind
48:35 Good Girl Burnout
52:07 Redefining Success
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
I didn’t want the break-up to define me.
Life falls apart around us, and then we have to rebuild. The trick is to keep your heart soft.
If I’m setting the narrative, I want it to be hopeful .
I had to rewire my brain - I had to become an entirely new person. Then it became second nature.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Louise O’Neill’s memoir A Bigger Life is out now: https://harpercollins.co.uk/products/a-bigger-life-louise-oneill?variant=55970156118395
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16 September 2026, 4:00 am - 57 minutes 6 secondsNish Kumar - Failure Is Information. Comedians Call It Material.
Nish Kumar is one of the UK’s best-known comedians, known for his impassioned political progressiveness.
You might remember him as the host of the topical BBC comedy show, The Mash Report, which ran to great acclaim until it was abruptly cancelled in 2021 - one of his failures addresses this head-on. Kumar now co-hosts the popular podcast, Pod Save The UK and his 2026 tour, Angry Humour From A Really Nice Guy tackles the existential angst and political disquiet of a 40-year-old man.
We talk through his failed Edinburgh show, the fact he would never consume Huel, ‘the whole bread roll Mash Report thing’, his people pleasing tendencies, how his experiences of racism led to therapy and a PTSD diagnosis…and how his friendship with Ed Gamble has changed over the years. It’s not one to miss.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Intro
02:29 Immigrant Parents and Fear
04:41 Comedy Obsessed Teen
08:22 Nice Guy Angry Comic
11:31 Rage as Fuel
13:04 Edinburgh Show Failure
23:31 Bread Roll Fallout
27:20 Empathy and Comedy
27:53 The Bread Roll Incident
28:29 Clips, Context, and Backlash
29:49 Turning Failure into Material
31:24 Therapy and PTSD
34:28 Racism and Political Architecture
39:52 Progress, Parents and Politics
46:14 Friendship and Growing Up
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
Intellectual intelligence is useless without emotional intelligence
2013 was the most important year because I learnt everything about what I didn’t want to do in stand-up
My partner said I should seek therapy, but at the time that felt like an indulgence. I don’t feel that now.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Nish Kumar is touring across the UK with Angry Humour from a Really Nice Guy until the end of November. Tickets are available from www.nishkumar.co.uk/gigs
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9 September 2026, 4:00 am - 58 minutes 23 secondsRemembering Gloria Steinem
It was a privilege to have one of my all-time heroes, the feminist activist, writer and icon Gloria Steinem on How to Fail back in 2020 and we are heartbroken to hear of her passing at the age of 92. To celebrate her life, we’re re-releasing this very special episode.
We talked about her failure to understand her mother, her failure to be at her father's deathbed and her failure to learn lessons quickly enough - yes, we go deep... She also talked to me about how (then) at the age of 86, she is joyfully outliving society's expectations of her; of how fear can often be a sign of growth (let that sink in), about how 'anger is an energy cell', about how we are 'linked not ranked', about not having children, about spending a lifetime combatting misogyny and racism and sexism and injustice, and about the counteracting forces of love and compassion and friendship which keep her going.
Whoever said never meet your heroes clearly never met Gloria Steinem.
We love you Gloria Steinem, rest in power.
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3 September 2026, 4:15 pm - 52 minutes 30 secondsDavid Sedaris - ‘My Father Said I Was A Bad Influence Because I Was Gay’
David Sedaris is one of America’s best-loved humorists, famous for turning the absurdities of everyday life into razor-sharp, deeply human essays. He joins Elizabeth Day on How to Fail to talk about the moments that have shaped him: from dropping out of university and ending up in his parents’ basement at 20, to being thrown out by his father and growing up with a parent who seemed to actively invest in his failure.
He talks candidly about heartbreak after a breakup at 32, the fear of being alone, grief at losing the people we love and his past crystal meth addiction and sobriety.
We also hear about the embarrassment of dropping out of Japanese school in Tokyo at 50…and the possibility of a cameo on The Archers.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Intro
03:39 How His Writing Evolved
04:27 Train Music Confrontation
07:03 Failure One: Dropping Out
10:38 A Father Rooting Against Him
13:16 Money Promises and Betrayal
18:03 Thrown Out and Self Worth
20:31 Friendship and Grief
23:22 Failure Two: Breakup at 32
27:38 Writing Love And Routine
28:46 Sharon The Practical Mom
33:08 Heartbreak Versus Grief
35:54 Crystal Meth And Fear
38:59 Conceptual Art On Fire
40:24 Tokyo Japanese School Quit
46:08 The Archers Cameo
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
“I just took every bit of advice [my father] ever gave me and did the opposite, and it was a really good strategy.”
“Fear kept me drinking. Fear kept me smoking. Fear kept me from leaving.”
“You’re never going to get what you want if you don’t work for it.”
“Every day is a new beginning.”
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
The Land and Its People by David Sedaris is widely available across both online retailers and physical bookstores in the US and the UK.
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2 September 2026, 4:00 am - 1 hour 1 minuteFailure Throwback: Mo Gawdat
This episode with Mo Gawdat originally went out in 2019, but its message feels as relevant as ever. We’re re-releasing it to celebrate the 500th episode of How to Fail.
Just occasionally, you meet someone who changes the way you think about the world. That’s what happened when Elizabeth met Mo Gawdat, former Chief Business Officer at Google X, who spent years trying to solve a problem that seemed impossible to quantify: how can one individual be happy?
After 12 years of research, Gawdat developed an algorithm for happiness: happiness is greater than or equal to your perception of the events in your life, minus your expectations of how life should be. He wrote about it in his international bestseller Solve for Happy.
But that algorithm was put to the ultimate test when his beloved 21-year-old son, Ali, died in tragic circumstances. Mo joins me to talk about grief and depression, happiness as a form of fitness, coping with break-ups, the isolating effects of social media, why life is like a computer game, the illusion of time - and why we should always be polite to Siri.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Intro
03:23 Success Yet Depressed
06:14 Chasing Stuff for Joy
07:22 Engineering Happiness Reset
11:37 Six Modern Illusions
15:17 Happiness as Equation
20:35 Taming Your Inner Voice
28:51 Useful vs Joyful Thoughts
29:55 Grief Without Suffering
31:02 Ali Lived Reframing
32:47 Life as a Video Game
35:02 Halo Lessons on Purpose
40:13 Preventable Death and Resentment
45:09 Tech Promise and AI Risk
55:26 1 Billion Happy Mission
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26 August 2026, 4:00 am - 51 minutes 56 secondsFailure Throwback: Phoebe Waller Bridge
To mark 500 episodes of How to Fail! To we’re re-releasing the first ever episode with Phoebe Waller Bridge, which originally went out in July 2018.
Phoebe Waller-Bridge, creator and star of Fleabag, writer of Killing Eve, superstar feminist and human embodiment of a Star Wars droid, joins How To Fail to talk about how she failed at her 20s (but got lots of brilliant material from the terrible dates she endured), failing at drama school, terrible auditions (including one for Downton Abbey) and how her female best friend is quite possibly the love of her life.
She also talks about emotional vulnerability, why women fail at anger and about finding glory in one’s mistakes. There’s a great exchange about whether women should be open about whether or not they want children and a whole segue into the desirability of alabaster foreheads. Oh, and we cover the time Phoebe met Meryl Streep and embarrassed herself horribly, in what might be one of the greatest celebrity anecdotes of all time involving apple crumble.
IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Introduction
02:04 Sudden Fame Reality
04:33 RADA And Early Rejection
07:50 Emotional Acting Truth
08:41 Love Life Failures
13:14 Fleabag And Female Voice
18:05 Auditions Power And Ambition
25:37 Creative Lifeline Friendship
26:21 How They Met Vicky
27:40 Muses Not Mistresses
29:15 Women And Anger
30:55 Female Killers Fascination
33:20 The Babies Question
40:54 Feminism And Body Image
44:40 Celebrity Encounters Finale
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