This is a special episode, sponsored by Bumble, taking a look at all the different ways we can meet someone: whether you meet young, in your 50s, or post-divorce. The three women in this episode (and four if you count me!) - are here to show us that finding the love of your life isn’t always straight-forwards, or linear.
First up, you'll hear from the brilliant and hilarious Miranda Hart, who got married when she was 51, and talks through her first date with her now husband. Then Australian comedian Celeste Barber talks about meeting her ‘hot husband’ young, and quickly becoming a step-mum to two young children. Finally, American author Glennon Doyle talks about leaving her marriage for the love of her life, Abby – and co-parenting her three children with her ex-husband in a blended family.
I hope this episode brings you as much laughter, reassurance and warmth as each of those guests have brought me. And hopefully it inspires you to refresh your Bumble profile, or download Bumble now!
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Listen to Glennon’s full episode here: swap.fm/l/Nd3ZzVy73FXUMupJ4i1q
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Celebrity hair stylist Chris Appleton has a slew of devoted clients including Kim Kardashian, Kris Jenner and Martha Stewart, as well as millions of Instagram followers and a regular slot offering advice on The Drew Barrymore Show. His memoir, Your Roots Don’t Define You, is a New York Times bestseller.
But growing up was hard on Appleton: he was the middle of five children and struggled with undiagnosed dyslexia at school. He was bullied by his classmates for being gay - something he didn’t yet understand about himself. At 16, he left school to work full-time and began a serious relationship with his colleague, Kate. By 19, he was a father.
In this episode we discuss imposter syndrome, the darkest moments of his life, shame and the work he’s done to overcome the hurdles he’s faced. And, of course, we talk about the Kardashians.
✨ IN THIS EPISODE:
02:33 Imposter Syndrome as Fuel
04:24 Red Carpets and Online Pressure
05:27 Hair as Celebrity Identity
07:15 Memoir and Health Wake Up
08:48 Dash the Dog and Comfort
11:02 Shame Coming Out and Healing
22:26 Kids First After Divorce
23:05 Holiday Triggers and Boundaries
24:31 Success Doesn't Heal
25:18 Inner Child Healing Work
27:22 Envy Into Mentorship
30:08 Kardashians on Failure
31:25 Hair Identity and Change
35:18 Comparison and Social Media
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
It’s okay to make mistakes, but I love learning from them and understanding why we make those decisions.
Hair is such a big part of people's identity. It tells who you are.
You can externally excite yourself... But if you're not aligned internally, you still have that sad and lonely feeling.
I think imposter syndrome to an extent is healthy... It keeps me turning up to jobs prepared. I treat every job like it's the first time I've done it.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Chris Appleton’s book Your Roots Don’t Define You, is out now
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Rylan Clark - on public breakdowns, surviving divorce and rebuilding his sense of self.
Dawn French - on comedy, adoption and finding confidence later in life.
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I never thought I would have to write these words, but here we are. In the wake of my dear friend’s passing, I wanted to reflect on the life of one of the most radiant people I’ve ever met: Mel Schilling. I never quite understood the truth of the phrase ‘she lights up a room’ until I met Mel. It wasn’t just the sparkling smile or the sequins she loved wearing or the glittery eyeshadow; it was deeper than that: she wanted others to shine, to feel special and to be loved. To believe themselves worthy of love.
To be in Mel’s company was to feel anything was possible.
I wanted to re-release this very special episode of How to Fail because it shows so much of the woman she was. It was also the first time I met Mel in person after admiring her for years from afar on our TV screens. I’m so lucky to have known her.
Please enjoy getting to know my friend Mel.
And if you want to hear more of her extraordinary insights and wisdom, you can listen to her on How To Date [link here: swap.fm/l/92EWhbCOZtcpVjwW1ZhD].
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Starting over can feel heartbreaking and overwhelming, especially after losing a loved one, and the idea of rebuilding a life can seem impossible. In this episode, Stanley and Geri show us that sometimes moving forward isn’t about letting go of the past, but learning to carry it with you in a way that allows life to continue.
Stanley Tucci speaks with brave honesty about the death of his first wife, Kate – the guilt he felt as he tried to move on and the difficult choices he faced while creating a new life for his children.
Geri Halliwell Horner reflects on losing her father as a teenager, how that loss shaped her ambition and how writing her novel unexpectedly helped her make sense of long‑held grief.
This episode explores love, loss and the resilience that allows us to keep going after such events. I hope it brings you a sense of solidarity or confirmation that we don’t need to erase what came before; sometimes, it becomes the very force that helps us begin again.
Listen to Stanley’s full episode of How to Fail here: http://swap.fm/l/WCW054IGNZnSnTzEXPTN
Listen to Geri’s full episode of How to Fail here: swap.fm/l/a7i32bvmHld3JFuDmShl
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Bereavement support: https://www.cruse.org.uk/
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Natasha Hamilton was 16 when she signed a record deal with the girl band, Atomic Kitten. The group went on to sell over 10 million records and achieve three UK Number One singles including Whole Again and The Tide Is High. But the pressures of fame affected her mental health and made her feel isolated and judged. After five years and the birth of her first son, Hamilton quit the band.
Today, Hamilton tells that story - the one that existed behind the headlines. We talk about the toxicity of 90s and early Y2K media, surviving postnatal depression and financial catastrophe after divorce. Plus we talk about why she set up her own record label, Morpho, to focus on nurturing and empowering young talent rather than - as she puts it - ‘moulding them into a product’. An amazing woman whose resilience should be an inspiration to us all!
Natasha Hamilton’s new single Fantasy is out now.
✨ IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Introduction
03:15 Forties And Clarity
04:47 Writing Numb
06:03 Morpho Records And Duty Of Care
08:11 Bullied But Born To Sing
14:13 Fame Tabloids And Numbness
21:40 Whole Again And Industry Bias
29:37 Making Peace With The Band
31:17 Rebuilding Sisterhood Again
31:37 Losing Pop Star Identity
32:43 Shock Pregnancy And Isolation
35:17 Postnatal Breakdown And Help
38:12 CBT And Taking Control
40:40 New Career In Beauty
46:00 Divorce Money Chaos And Recovery
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
From the age of 16 I was constantly told who to be: what to do, how to look, how to act - I’d never been given the reins of my own life before.
There is no wrong decision, if it works it works.
I thought: everyone’s judging me for not being thin enough.
Fame was so isolating.
If you’re struggling - talk to someone.
It’s incredible what can happen when you back yourself.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Natasha Hamilton’s new single, Numb, is out now
If you need someone to talk to, the Samaritans are available 24 hours a day: www.samaritans.org or call on 116 123
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Vicky Pattison - on Geordie Shore, self-worth, PMDD and family addiction: swap.fm/l/kUiBIHEkL1y3C9moLdsx
Louise Thompson - on how severe trauma after childbirth, chronic illness and the loss of her former identity forced her to rebuild her life with self-compassion: swap.fm/l/LouiseThompson
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Motherhood is often portrayed purely as a joyful, magical chapter of life – and while it certainly can be – we rarely speak openly about the hard, exhausting and deeply challenging truths.
In this episode, singer‑songwriter Jessie Ware reflects on becoming a parent while building a career in the public eye. She talks about the pressure she felt to prove she could do everything at once, the exhaustion that followed and the grounding process of learning to be present rather than perfect.
We also hear from novelist Francesca Segal, who shares the story of her twins’ premature birth and the unexpected reality of early motherhood inside a neonatal ward. She describes the chasm between the idealised story of birth and the lived experience many mothers face.
I hope this episode brings comfort to anyone navigating the complexities of motherhood. May it remind you that every journey is different, that there is no single right way to parent and that you are never alone in this experience.
Listen to Jessie’s full episode of How to Fail here: http://swap.fm/l/8cUuwGs4vc7tAXiPcDab
Listen to Francesca’s full episode of How to Fail here: swap.fm/l/MsPtRFvgP8z18GLPgpdL
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Maternal Support: https://maternalmentalhealthalliance.org/ https://mothersformothers.co.uk/
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Rosamund Pike! What a woman. Famed for her portrayals of razor-sharp, morally complex and deliciously unpredictable characters, she brings that same intriguing duality to this conversation. Thoughtful and quietly rebellious, she reflects on a career that has defied neat narratives from the very beginning.
After taking a year out from studying English at University of Oxford to pursue acting, she graduated and stepped straight into the global spotlight as Bond girl Miranda Frost in Die Another Day. From there came a string of unforgettable movies: Pride & Prejudice, Jack Reacher, A Private War and Saltburn. Her chilling performance in Gone Girl earned her an Oscar nomination and she took home a Golden Globe for I Care a Lot. In 2025, she returned to the stage for the first time in 15 years in the National Theatre’s production of Inter Alia.
In this episode, she talks about her ‘failure’ to get married, the realities of raising two sons and her decision not to read a single review of her work for the past 25 years. Plus why she’s ‘constantly in battle’ with her own fear, her failure to be an action movie hero, her miserable attempt to cook a rabbit and whether or not she’s ‘cool’.
✨ IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Intro
03:18 No reviews rule
06:57 Early perfectionism and stage craft
07:58 Inter Alia and modern womanhood
10:09 Luminate meditation mask
12:42 Failure to learn Chinese
19:09 Onstage mishaps and acting roles
28:59 What Cool Really Means
29:26 Cool Girl vs Amy
32:21 Failing at Being An Action Star
36:52 Failure to Get Married
45:17 Mothering Two Boys
47:28 Smells and Teen Hygiene
48:44 Rabbit Dinner and Being Enough
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
Failure is usually pretending to be someone you’re not.
I don’t think you ever regret having a big love affair - even if goes to shit.
I’m quite a coward. I like to play brave people because I’m not. I’m constantly in battle with my own fear.
Cool means that you can go your own way. You don't give too many, f***s... you can think originally.
I didn’t want to be the sex symbol.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Inter Alia is on at the Wyndham’s Theatre: 19 March - 20 June 2026
Rosamund’s Meditation App is: www.lumenate.co
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Glennon Doyle - on wildness, the end of people-pleasing and why we can all do hard things swap.fm/l/Nd3ZzVy73FXUMupJ4i1q
Phoebe Waller Bridge - on creative control, perfectionism and the fear of being misunderstood swap.fm/l/gTCOCJUmXX9t22mTABSa
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In this one‑off special, Elizabeth sits down with author Rebecca Coxon to discuss family, fertility and the secrets that have shaped her life: after uploading her DNA to an ancestry site, Rebecca discovered that the man who raised her was not her biological father – a revelation that sent her on a remarkable search for the truth about her origins.
Her memoir Inconceivable launches Elizabeth’s new imprint, Big Day Books. Rebecca writes with clarity and compassion about being a donor‑conceived IVF triplet, later donating her own eggs and facing fertility treatment herself – a story of family secrets, shame, resilience and deep love.
You don’t need personal experience of IVF or DNA surprises to be moved by this conversation. Rebecca is thoughtful, emotionally perceptive and quietly courageous. She speaks about having her identity reshaped overnight, the coexistence of gratitude and grief, and the invisible threads that bind us across generations.
This is a discussion about truth, belonging and the ethics and emotions of creating new life – and about redefining family not by biology alone, but through love, choice and understanding.
A deeply honest, intimate and ultimately hopeful discussion – and a very special moment for How to Fail.
✨ IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Intro
01:15 Donor Conceived Truth
02:52 Test Results Moment
05:26 Endometriosis Reality
07:57 Choosing Egg Donation
08:36 US Donor Market
10:26 Recipient Letter Impact
13:58 Dating And Time Pressure
15:53 James And IVF Collapse
20:50 Meeting Donor Rodney
30:47 Pregnancy After Book
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
The experience of watching your friends have babies. Every milestone in their lives feels like a splinter in mine.
I'm still on the shoreline waiting for my time, and I'm standing alongside people who are struggling." — Rebecca describes the mindset she had while finishing her book, just before discovering she was pregnant.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
Rebecca’s new book Inconceivable is available to buy now: www.bigdaybooks.co.uk/inconceivable
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Toni Laites made history last year as the first American to win Love Island, but her journey to the villa was anything but ordinary.
Discovered in Las Vegas working as a cabana girl by the show’s creative director, Toni was persuaded to fly 6,000 miles to Mallorca. The rest, as they say, is history.
But you don’t need to be a Love Island superfan to love this episode. Toni is funny, emotionally intelligent and disarmingly honest. She opens up about living with the chronic illness Ulcerative Colitis, her pattern of choosing the wrong men in the past, working through anxious attachment and the hard-won strength it takes to forgive yourself.
This is a conversation about resilience, self-awareness and what it really means to back yourself - even when the odds (and the public vote) are against you.
✨ IN THIS EPISODE:
03:18 Vegas Sales to Villa Casting
05:36 Saying Yes to Love Island
07:21 Life Inside the Villa
08:33 Votes, Outcasts and Forgiveness
10:57 The Big Three Friendship
14:18 Health Scare and Ulcerative Colitis
28:10 Tourist In London
28:43 Toxic Dating Patterns
32:22 Pressure On Her Relationship
34:57 Fame And Social Media
37:34 Family And Attachment
44:28 Self Criticism And Hate
49:44 Plan For The Future
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
There is value in doing nothing and taking a step back and waiting for good things to come.
I always say not all disabilities are visible and people don't really understand what that's like.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
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Olivia Attwood - on heartbreak, public scrutiny and building a successful career after Love Island.
Jessel Taank - on infertility, identity and The Real Housewives of New York.
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Ambition can be a powerful force: it propels us forward, sharpens our focus and pushes us to dream bigger. But it can also whisper that we are only as good as our latest achievement - and these two brilliant former How to Fail guests explore what it really means to live a driven life.
Gillian Anderson reflects on her lifelong drive to prove herself, the guilt she feels when stepping back from work and the tension between motherhood and a demanding career.
Munroe Bergdorf shares how rejection and gatekeeping in fashion shaped her ambition. Once treated as a token gesture, she has become a leading voice for representation, speaking openly about resilience, self‑worth and creating space for others to follow.
An episode about striving and self‑belief – and about whether ambition truly supports us, or whether we end up chasing it at our own expense.
Listen to Gillian’s full episode of How to Fail here: swap.fm/l/7NyZMzkfVOpGyDtlB6k0
Listen to Munroe’s full episode of How to Fail here: swap.fm/l/tu153m3gHYreWBZSrcY1
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
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Few filmmakers have a style as bold, romantic and unmistakable as Baz Luhrmann. From his breakout debut Strictly Ballroom to the glittering spectacle of The Great Gatsby starring Leonardo DiCaprio, and the fever-dream energy of Elvis, Luhrmann has built a career on transforming familiar stories into cinematic events.
In this episode, he takes us inside one of his most iconic creative decisions: the unforgettable fish tank scene in his 1996 adaptation of Romeo + Juliet - and reveals how that moment came to life.
We also explore his latest project, EPiC: Elvis Presley in Concert, a return to Elvis Presley through newly uncovered footage from the legendary Las Vegas residency.
Beyond the films, Luhrmann reflects on the journey that shaped him. Raised in Herons Creek, a tiny rural town in New South Wales, Australia, he grew up surrounded by performance and storytelling: his father ran a quirky petrol station and cinema, while his mother owned a dress shop and taught ballroom dancing. We discuss the setbacks that tested him, his unconventional audition process, his enduring creative partnership with his wife and the viral TikTok moment that sent the internet into a frenzy.
I hope you enjoy this candid, wide-ranging conversation with one of modern cinema’s great showmen.
✨ IN THIS EPISODE:
02:28 Creativity as Self‑Medication
05:52 Why Elvis?
09:22 The Romeo + Juliet Fish Tank Origin Story
11:01 Everybody’s Free to Wear Sunscreen: The Accidental Hit
13:56 Failure #1: Losing Instincts, Depression and Finding the Way Back
26:16 Casting Without Auditions: Baz’s Workshop Method
27:58 Creating a Fear-Free Room
28:47 The Big Break That Became a Public Flop
30:56 Rebounding with Strictly Ballroom
32:19 Choosing Collaborators
33:36 Marriage and Deep Trust
35:42 Criticism and Staying Humble (Plus the Viral TikTok Moment)
40:38 Future-Focused Filmmaking & Final Reflections
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
I see my job as keeping fear out of the room. I take the fear on in the morning when I get up.
I was embarrassed about being this geek from a small country town... I was ashamed that I liked people - and that just didn't seem cool enough.
I always made my films for the future, not to be sort of hip in the moment... I want them to have a universality and I want them to move through time and space.
🔗 LINKS + MENTIONS:
EPiC: Elvis Presley in Concert is in cinemas now
THAT TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@god_worthy/video/7374740069866884368?lang=en
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Elizabeth’s Substack: https://theelizabethday.substack.com/
📚 WANT MORE?
Stanley Tucci - On grief, cancer…and failing to swim swap.fm/l/WCW054IGNZnSnTzEXPTN
Phoebe Waller-Bridge - On creative risk-taking, ambition and what happens after a cultural phenomenon like Fleabag swap.fm/l/gTCOCJUmXX9t22mTABSa
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