Mutations

Jeremy D Johnson

Conversations at the end of history and the beginning of the Anthropocene. Exploring the future through a consideration of our present, "the time between worlds," and the "time between times." Author, show host and interviewer Jeremy D Johnson explores the transformation of culture and consciousness through integral philosophy.

  • 36 minutes 58 seconds
    Episode 33: Folding Time with Deleuze

    In this episode Jeremy contemplates the 'shape' of time with the help of French philosopher Gilles Deleuze. If reclaiming time from the catastrophe of progress requires that we invent new forms of temporality, then perhaps the fold, a concept developed by Deleuze, can help us develop better metaphors, more dynamic 'shapes,' for time. Folds and pleats fold, unfold, and enfold, emphasizing interrelationships between past, present and future. The fold helps us think with a weirder time of the present, opening a zig-zagging path towards more relational futures.

    Show note:

    26 November 2025, 5:39 pm
  • 39 minutes 41 seconds
    Episode 32: Integral Futuring

    Mutations podcast returns in this short, off-the-cuff episode as Jeremy offers an update on the manuscript (spoiler alert: it is now complete!), introduces a new online class happening in December, and gives listeners a rough sketch of where the show is headed next.

    "Integral Futuring: Reclaiming Time in the Radical Present" is a three-day weekend seminar, beginning on December 5th. One might describe it as a riff on reclaiming the future, planetary thinking, and the need for a new temporality beyond the clock. Presentations are followed by breakout discussions, resource sharing, and Q&A. Join a community of fellow seekers and explorers for a weekend of in-depth conversations and fellowship.

    Please reach out if you might need a student discount/pay-what-you-can link. No one will be turned away.

    11 November 2025, 5:05 pm
  • 1 hour 4 minutes
    31. Weird or Eerie? Animist Stories to Tell in the Dark ft. John Anderson

    In this appropriately seasonal episode, John Anderson joins me for a follow up conversation to explore the differences between the weird and the eerie, drawing from the late Mark Fisher's same-titled book, an animistic take on hauntology, before wrapping up our conversation with a few spooky stories.

    Show notes:

    John's Patreon, Instagram

    The Weird and the Eerie, Mark Fisher

    31 October 2022, 4:57 pm
  • 1 hour 9 minutes
    30. Animist Storms and the Five Shen ft. John Anderson

    Following Hurricane Ian, John Anderson joined me in St. Petersburg, Florida for an extended visit. We sat down one evening to (finally) record one the many longform conversations we've had the benefit of enjoying recently. Together, John and I explore the intersection of Chinese Medicine, Daoist philosophy, temporal arts, and animist attitudes towards not only weathering Anthropocene storms, but living and realizing the innate and creative wholeness that is our human spirit.

    ABOUT JOHN:

    John is a fellow Revelore Press author (see The Way of the Living Ghost, and Opening the Vermillion Spirit).

    John Anderson is a practitioner and teacher of several styles of Asian medicine having received his Master’s degree in Oriental Medicine at the Florida College of Integrative Medicine (FCIM) and his Doctorate in Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine at the Oregon College of Oriental Medicine (OCOM). Dr. Anderson’s formal training extends to the use of herbal medicine from the perspective of Chinese medicine, both classical (ShangHan method) and contemporary (through the Ding/Shen/Hammer lineage).

    In addition to his formal education in Chinese Medicine, he has had training in Lakota practices and in Eastern esoteric herbal medicine and Chinese folk medicines. As part of his broader learning process, he has worked with plants, stones, and other natural ingredients for the better part of twenty years, beginning with many aspects of contemporary European paganism. This interest evolved and grew to encompass Eastern philosophies and practices. His ongoing research interests include: Gu syndromes, virtue medicine in tradition of Wang Fengyi, Daoist and Buddhist exorcistic practices, and Disability Studies at large. His work on Gu has appeared in Verdant Gnosis, volume 4. Opening the Vermillion Spirit is the second of three books, following on his 2019 Way of the Living Ghost.

    John's Patreon
    Social: Instagram & Facebook

    7 October 2022, 2:47 pm
  • 14 minutes 52 seconds
    29. New Course: Fragments of an Integral Future - Re-Visioning Consciousness Unfoldment in a Time Between Worlds
    1 August 2022, 3:54 pm
  • 58 minutes 35 seconds
    28. Three Theses on Liminality

    A midnight recording I've dubbed "three theses on liminality." What definition of "liminal" would be satisfactorily descriptive as to the conditions of the present? Isn't our epoch, by definition, a kind of civilizational liminality? Three theses came together for me in this playful exercise. Liminality: a threshold, the interregnum (Gramsci), and the Janus-Faced World (Gebser)/Coyolxuahqui (Anzaldua) Imperative.

    Show notes:

    Joe Lightfoot's article, "The Liminal Web: Mapping An Emergent Subculture Of Sensemakers, Meta-Theorists & Systems Poets"

    Seeing Through the World (2022 Online Course)

    Mutations Patreon

    Readings: Antonio Gramsci, Prison Notebooks. Jean Gebser, The Ever-Present Origin. Gloria Anzaldúa, Light in the Dark/Luz en lo Oscuro. Jeremy Johnson, Seeing Through the World.

    17 February 2022, 4:54 pm
  • 1 hour 32 minutes
    27. Hellametamodernism ft. Henry Andrews

    For this episode of Mutations, Henry Andrews joins me for a conversation on the emergence of "Hellametamodernism," the tensions between 'systems poets' and 'meta theory' in metamodern and Game B community discourse, and how Nora Bateson's "aphanipoiesis" offers a different approach to "going meta."

    BIO: Henry Andrews is self-taught Gravesian theorist whose interests include examining the theory with a critical eye, and searching for applications beyond those popularized through Spiral Dynamics. He is currently developing an embodied conversational ritual based on Gravesian patterns and other concepts.  

    SHOW NOTES:  

    19 January 2022, 9:32 pm
  • 1 hour 7 minutes
    26. Zak Stein on The Dawn of Everything, Development, and our Political Imagination
    Zachary Stein joins Mutations for a discussion on how The Dawn of Everything (Graeber & Wengrow) challenges and invites a re-envisioning of our developmental models, Stein's meta-psychology and how it approaches that challenge, and how renewing our political imagination is more important than ever for our time between worlds.   BIO: Dr. Zachary Stein is a writer, speaker, and transformative educator working to bring a greater sense of justice and sanity to education. Zak was educated at Hampshire College and Harvard University, during which time he co-founded Lectica, a non-profit organization dedicated to redesigning standardized testing infrastructures. He has taught classes at Harvard University and Meridian University, and has been invited to speak at a wide range of venues, from the National Security Agency to off-the-grid spiritual retreat centers. Zak is a co-founder of The Consilience Project, which is dedicated to improving public sensemaking and building a movement to radically upgrade digital media landscapes.  Homepage: http://www.zakstein.org/ Support Mutations podcast: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnsonTwitter: https://twitter.com/jdj_writes
    15 December 2021, 3:45 pm
  • 1 hour 33 minutes
    25. Origins Panel: ft. Rudolf Hammerli, Aaron Cheak, Jeremy Johnson + Poetry Reading by Michael Love

    Please enjoy the audio from this year's Origins: A Cosmo-Local Gathering conference panel between Rudolf Hammerli (Swiss Gebser Society president, Novalis publisher), Aaron Cheak (former US Gebser Society president, Rubedo Press publisher), and myself. During the panel, Rudolf Hammerli shares his memories of Jean Gebser and additionally distills "four pillars" of Gebser's integral philosophy, with commentary by Aaron Cheak and myself. The segment concludes with a poetry reading by Michael Love, introduced by former Gebser Society president and panelist Dr. Dave Zuckerman (see his talk, Transforming Outcomes as Sacramento State). Please see here for more information about the 2021 Gebser Conference.

    Episode Notes:

     

    8 December 2021, 5:23 pm
  • 1 hour 36 minutes
    22. Stages & Development - ft. Nora Bateson, Maimunah Mosli, Jon Freeman

    Nora Bateson joins us for a panel discussion on "The Great Stage Theory Debate." Panelists include Maimunah Mosli, a Muslim family psychotherapist from Singapore who brings a much needed non-Western voice to this discussion, and Jon Freeman, an author and Spiral Dynamics expert who is advocating for the usage of stage theory, and myself, attempting to hold the facilitator role as much as I realistically can. A follow-up Mutations monologue will be published soon with some more thoughts on how a Gebserian approach offers another kind of non-linear framing for consciousness efflorescence more aligned with Nora's approach on the one hand and creatively engaging new works (like The Dawn of Everything by Graeber and Wengrow) on the other. Stay tuned for that, plus more recorded panels.

    Original post by Nora: https://www.facebook.com/norabateson/posts/10159038460440860 

    Hanzi's reply: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1199720657209567&id=100015149321507 

    Article recommended by Nora: "The Place of eugenics in Arnold Gesell’s maturation theory of child development":  https://indexarticles.com/health-fitness/canadian-psychology/place-of-eugenics-in-arnold-gesells-maturation-theory-of-child-development-the/ 

    Jon's article, https://medium.com/@jon_25033/timelines-in-stage-theory-from-flatland-and-stasis-to-living-dynamics-d6e5a6773e81

    PANELIST INFO:  

    • Nora Bateson's homepage: https://batesoninstitute.org/nora-bateson/
    • Maimunah Mosli: https://www.taosinstitute.net/about-us/people/institute-associates/asia/singapore/maimunah-mosli
    • Jon Freeman: http://spiralfutures.com/ & https://twitter.com/freejonsop
    3 December 2021, 4:50 pm
  • 1 hour 7 minutes
    24. Mutations, Imagination, Futurability - A Reading + Q&A

    Presented at the 50th annual Jean Gebser Society Conference, "Origins: A Cosmo-Local Gathering." St. Petersburg, FL chapter. "Mutations, Imagination, Futurability" is my introductory essay featured in the forthcoming Mutations - Issue Zero (Feb. 2022). Published by Integral Imprint.

    Gebser Conference: https://gebser.org/events/origins-conference/

    Support Mutations podcast and join the community (Discord, Zoom calls, early publishing, Q&A): https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson

    Read more about Integral Imprint: https://revelore.press/integral/ 

    Connect with Jeremy on social: https://twitter.com/jdj_writes

    24 November 2021, 1:00 pm
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