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In the final PTMA episode of 2025, Ant, Nik and Sky wrap up the year with a very coach-specific reality check:
Should you actually run a front-end offer in January – or is it just another 6-week shred you’ll regret?
Why the classic SMART goals approach is “shit” for coaches and clients… and how PTMA rebuilt their entire goal-setting system using bridge models, GROW and wildly important goals.
How to get the most out of January 2026 as a self-employed coach (instead of landing back on the gym floor on 2nd January with no plan and a head full of pressure).
Personal + business highlights from 2025, what changed inside PTMA, and what the team are excited for in Q1 2026 – including Connected Coach and the new January programme.
00:00 – 03:40 – Intro & Christmas Film Icebreaker
End-of-year chaos, dodgy Wi-Fi, Christmas film choices, Lapland prices, and Ant’s Home Alone obsession.
03:40 – 04:15 – From Banter to Business
Quick pivot from festive chat into the real question coaches are asking about January.
04:15 – 05:55 – “Is a Front-End Offer in January a Good Idea?”
Sky throws the question in; Ant breaks down:
Why front-end offers in Jan can work really well
The importance of aligning them with your values and long-term process
How to position the “what happens next” so it’s not just a 6–8 week graveyard.
05:55 – 08:10 – Values, Messaging & Next Steps After a Front-End
How to think beyond the shred:
The real job of a front-end
Making sure it nudges people into meaningful action, not just a quick fix.
08:10 – 08:23 – Quick Tech Question
“What do you use to record the podcast?” → Riverside.
08:23 – 11:36 – Why PTMA’s Goal Setting Is Different (and Why SMART Is Shit)
Nik breaks down PTMA’s goal-setting framework:
Why SMART goals alone don’t build ownership or internal motivation
The Bridge Model – where you are, where you want to be, and how to cross the gap
Layering in GROW and Wildly Important Goals / OKRs
Breaking business goals into 12 / 90 / 30 / 7 milestones so coaches actually follow through.
11:36 – 12:03 – Holding the Space for Coaches
A bit of back-and-forth between the team on Nik’s answer and how the framework evolved.
12:03 – 16:48 – How to Make the Most Out of January 2026 as a Self-Employed Coach
Sky leads on:
Why you can’t wait until 2nd–3rd Jan to decide your plan
Getting clear now on:
What you’re offering in January
Whether it’s a front-end offer, lead magnet, or new service
When marketing starts and what channels you’re using
Running end-of-year review calls and Q1 goal-setting with current clients
Using feedback to protect retention so you don’t sleepwalk into a high-leaver January
Managing your own energy, boundaries and schedule in a grim, cold month.
Ant then adds:
Why January success = December effort
Matching your plan to your target (e.g. 12 new clients by end of Jan)
Managing expectations and not kidding yourself with “wishful” plans.
16:48 – 19:36 – Quick Reflections & Transition
Short wrap on the January piece and a move into more reflective questions.
17:28 – 21:00 – 2025 Business Highlights – Restructuring PTMA
Nik & Ant on:
The conference as a consistent highlight
Completely restructuring and simplifying PTMA’s offers
Making it easier to get the best out of coaches with the right mix of directness and accountability
The messy middle of changing a business you’ve controlled for 8–10 years, and coming out the other side stronger.
19:20 – 19:36 – Nik’s Personal Take
19:41 – 22:49 – Ant’s Personal & Business Highlights
22:49 – 25:15 – Sky’s Personal & Business Highlights
25:15 – 26:07 – Grassroots Football GOAT
26:07 – 28:18 – Looking Ahead to 2026 & Wrap-Up.
28:15 – End – Merry Christmas & See You in 2026
This week we’re unpacking the biggest lessons from our Coaches Conference weekend – the stuff that shifted our coaches’ perspective on goals, content, confidence, coaching skills and running events that actually land.
If you didn’t make it, this is your snapshot: what worked, what didn’t, and the questions you should be asking yourself going into 2026.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Why this episode is different
Ant hijacks the podcast, explains why there are no Q&A check-ins this week and sets the scene for the Coaches Conference recap.
02:00 – The real win from the weekend (hint: not more information)
Nik breaks down why the biggest shift wasn’t “more tactics” – it was perspective, belief and starting with you as the coach.
05:25 – “Your business is a mirror of you”
Sky pulls out Chris’ core line that kept echoing through the weekend: your business reflects you – your limits, your habits, your standards.
08:45 – Events that don’t go perfectly (and why we’re sharing that)
Ant talks honestly about what he’d change from Saturday afternoon, why the last quarter of a day is always tough, and what coaches can learn if they’re running their own events.
14:00 – Goals, money and meaning: the morning spreadsheet session
How we got coaches to stop winging it with revenue, tie their numbers back to what they actually want from life, and why clarity = confidence.
19:45 – Simon’s simple content framework for 1–2 weeks of posts
The 4–5 step process Simon walked everyone through: pain point → outcome → format → delivery method → building out a week of content without overthinking.
23:40 – Limits, the “to-don’t list” and your bottlenecks
What Chris covered on limits, self-awareness, why your strengths can get in your way, and why most coaches need a to-don’t list more than another to-do list.
28:50 – Ross on chasing zeros vs chasing alignment
The reality behind rapid “success”: risk, money lost, and how he pulled himself back from chasing more, more, more to something aligned with his values.
34:40 – Katie’s story: building a packed gym in a saturated area
Why her story hit so hard: no big following, loads of local competition, a family to support – and still building a thriving gym through paid ads, clear niche and relentless consistency.
39:50 – Coaching day: from rigid programming to real coaching
What Craig, Sasha, and the coaching panels highlighted: presence, adapting to the human in front of you, and why a programme on paper isn’t the product.
46:30 – The final workshop: are you really doing enough for client results?
Ant & Nik explain the final principles-based framework they walked coaches through to honestly answer: “Am I doing everything I can for this client?”
49:45 – Why in-person still beats another Zoom webinar
Nik on why, even as an online business, nothing touches being in a room with other coaches for confidence, belief and perspective.
Timestamps
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00:00 – 03:20
Intro, weekend chat, Blue’s puppy scan, banter.
03:20 – 07:15
Sky’s conference recap: GLP-1 “obesity management meds”, microplastics, waste, Tim Spector/Zoe rant, plug for PTMA conference.
07:15 – 13:40
“Most annoying trait in academy members”
Time management & energy management struggles
Accountability vs handing over responsibility
Wanting results without sacrifice
Being hypocritical with their own adherence
Running the business from assumptions not data.
13:40 – 16:05
Planning your first in-person educational client event: outcome, group dynamics, experience vs information dump.
16:05 – 20:11
Balancing being busy vs feeling burnt out; prioritising non-negotiables, sleep, shutdown times, and why most coaches overuse the word “burnout”.
20:11 – 26:47
2025/2026 for PTMA & advice for coaches next year
One-word summary: development
Hardest year so far, but a springboard
Four business pillars
“Go into next year knowing what you’re doing and aiming at.”
26:47 – 30:42
End-of-year reviews, 2026 goal setting, and why January is a high-leaver month if you don’t future pace clients.
30:42 – 33:52
Handling “go away and think about it” in sales conversations and how to actually lead the decision.
33:55 – 35:07
Where to start if you’ve been slacking on tracking business metrics.
35:11 – 38:43
Website/Wix upgrade question: “professional” look vs purpose and traffic; landing pages over pretty brochures.
38:43 – 42:07
Best ways to use a 5-minute video testimonial (short-form clips, reaction videos, B-roll, emails).
42:07 – 43:36
Leftover takeaway debate, conference week hype, random closing chat.
In this episode we answer real questions from coaches on low revenue, lead gen when your niche isn’t in the gym, knowing when you’re at capacity, and how to balance seasons of graft with the freedom you actually want from your business.
We also get into why 2026 will reward truly skilled coaches (not just marketers), how many platforms you should really be on, and what to do when life hits – like getting ill the week a new client starts.
If you’ve ever wondered “am I doing enough?” or “am I getting in my own way?”, this one will hit.
Timestamps
00:00–02:30 – Boxing, UFC and warm-up chat
02:31–06:10 – Low revenue even though you’re “doing everything right”
06:21–07:49 – Creating a client accountability challenge that actually lands
07:50–13:35 – Weekends, the Lakes and social media: love, hate and reality checks
13:54–19:01 – Gym floor lead gen when your niche “isn’t there”
19:02–22:15 – Knowing when you’re at capacity (time, energy, money)
22:34–26:00 – What changes in 2026: skills, AI and events
26:10–29:03 – If your business was a person, what is it trying to become?
29:04–37:58 – Balancing seasons of graft with the freedom you want
38:09–39:50 – How to prep for the PTMA conference + front-end offer timing
40:43–43:50 – How long it really took to build this level of output
43:51–47:21 – How many platforms should you be on? Does a podcast count?
47:22–50:34 – Getting ill, onboarding a new client and what systems you need
In this episode I sit down with Ant and Sky to talk directly to newly qualified personal trainers and coaches in their first six to twelve months. We go right into the reality of qualifying, why so many coaches feel like imposters, what actually causes most PTs to leave the industry early, and the practical foundations you need to get from 0–5 clients. We also break down the thinking behind our new PT Foundations programme and why we’ve brought it back now as a bridge between “just passed my course” and “ready for full mentorship”.
Message us FOUNDATION to be 1 of 10 coaches
Timestamps
00:00 – 02:10 — Why we recorded this episode
A surge of new PTs, lots of uncertainty, and why we wanted to speak directly to coaches in their first year.
02:10 – 04:38 — The shock of qualifying
Sky explains how it feels to pass your PT course but have no idea how to run a business.
04:38 – 08:30 — What new PTs think they need vs what they actually need
Social media following, being in shape, collecting courses, and the truth about what actually moves the needle.
08:30 – 11:13 — Why most PTs leave within 6–12 months
Commercial gym pressure, no lead-gen method, inconsistent marketing, low confidence.
11:13 – 16:00 — Two starting scenarios and why speed matters
Whether you are full-time or in a commercial gym, speed to early wins is essential.
16:00 – 20:24 — Front-end offers, graft and getting experience quickly
How to get in front of people, generate leads early, and build confidence.
20:24 – 28:25 — Niche and offer clarity
Why defining who you help and what you do changes your confidence and your marketing.
28:25 – 34:25 — Guessing vs having a plan
Warning signs you’re guessing your way through business: random offers, reactive marketing, no system.
34:25 – 40:49 — Case study: Stuart in JD Gym
A simple example of how structure, campaigns and consistency changed his income and confidence.
40:49 – 45:50 — Working on your business vs reacting to everything
How early knock-backs derail new coaches and why consistency matters.
45:50 – 51:40 — Introducing PT Foundations
Why we built an 8-week “bridge” programme for new PTs and how it works:
Weeks 1–2: Clarity, niche, offer
Weeks 3–6: Awareness, content, lead-gen
Weeks 7–8: Conversion to first 5 clients
51:40 – End — The mission behind it
Why helping brand new PTs was the original reason PTMA existed and why we’re bringing this back now.
This week we tackle five coach-maker topics: how often to re-confirm Ts&Cs (and why retention cycles matter), the shift from “instructor” to “coach” to build truly self-sufficient clients, choosing the right paid-ad objective (awareness vs lead gen vs offer), the one move to get ahead of January (stacking high-volume lead magnets + nurturing), and what actually belongs on a simple, high-converting landing page. Expect straight talk, practical scripts, and a nudge to stop chasing vanity and start building pipeline.
Timestamps
00:00 Cold open, chaos & intros
01:04 Q1 — How often to re-iterate Ts&Cs? (tie it to average retention)
03:14 Q2 — Coaching for self-sufficiency (questions > instructions)
07:39 Q3 — Paid ads: awareness, lead magnet, or straight offer? (it depends on objective)
10:35 Q4 — One thing to get ahead of New Year (lead magnets + nurture + positioning)
13:38 Q5 — Client won’t train hard: bias, priorities & intensity coaching
17:27 Q6 — Do landing pages need loads of info? (the 5-block skeleton)
20:06 Wrap & conference one-day ticket £79 (Friday)
Key topics & takeaways
Front-end offer pricing: Price by touch-points (hands-off vs semi-personalised vs personalised) and anchor near your core offer to reduce conversion friction.
Cost control near VAT threshold: Audit fixed vs non-fixed costs; weigh each item’s ROI and time saved. Decide whether to absorb, pass on, or phase VAT via planned price lifts.
Measuring social media: Prioritise conversations and intent signals (DMs, replies, saves, shares, profile taps) over vanity likes. Enjoyment matters for consistency.
Lead magnet success: Two lenses—(1) metrics versus target (downloads, list growth, conversions) and (2) did it energise you? Usually it’s the positioning and volume of promo, not the asset, that needs work.
What to make next: Don’t reinvent; productise what you already coach. Turn your last 5–7 client fixes into a checklist, 5-min video, or mini accountability plan.
Posting twice a week: Favour reels for reach and connection; use Stories for context and personality. Add clear CTAs to longer-form value (email list, podcast, lead magnet).
Timestamps;
00:01 Intro — “PTMA Radio Breakfast Show” vibes
00:45 Hyrox judging saga: the white line, the ankle grab, and penalties
02:13 Q1: How to price a front-end offer? (touch-points & anchoring to core offer)
04:06 Sky’s caution: don’t undervalue your core by over-delivering cheaply
04:45 Q2: Where to cut costs to improve profit / stay under VAT threshold?
05:27 Fixed vs non-fixed costs; ROI vs time trade-offs
07:52 VAT options: absorb, pass on, or phase price increases
09:28 Half-term chaos + travel chat: Australia, New Zealand, Japan
10:59 “When is Ant’s cookbook going live?” (pamphlets, Christmas tree campaigns)
12:24 Q3: How do you gauge social media success? (conversations > likes)
15:24 Sky: some “low-metric” posts start the best DMs; enjoyment matters
17:28 Q4: How to assess a lead magnet — tweak, repeat, or bin?
21:02 Nik: it’s usually the marketing, not the magnet
22:35 Ant’s example: move the CTA up, increase mentions → downloads double
23:40 Q5: What should my next lead magnet be? (mine your current coaching)
26:20 Q6: Two posts a week — reels or carousels? (reels, then Stories context)
29:44 Ant’s “14-page” content confession
30:42 Quick-fire: dream podcast guests (Ilona Maher, Ross Edgley)
33:08 UFC chat: eye poke controversy, intent vs tactic
36:39 Boxing shout, “PTMA Fight Review” idea, playful outro
37:06 Sign-off
Nik, Ant and Sky dig into what to actually do in Q4: the small-group PT model Sky would run today (and realistic earnings), whether to end a front-end offer right before Christmas (yes), how to handle a management environment you’re starting to dislike, when “tough love” backfires and what to do instead, what to expect from your first paid ad (spoiler: creatives make or break it), how to start online from zero by building in public, practical retention plays heading into the holidays, plus a candid riff on the Enhanced Games and a PTMA Conference update Coaches Conference tickets here
Timestamps;
00:00 – Cold open + chaos as usual
01:00 – Where PTMA’s headed (more coaching depth > agency model)
03:25 – If we went back to PT: Sky’s small-group model & £5–6k/month
06:00 – Disliking your environment? How to handle management like an adult
08:48 – Should a front-end offer finish right before Christmas? (Yes, and why)
11:00 – “Tough love” vs. communication breakdown: objective signs & boundaries
17:32 – Your first paid ad: expectations, creatives, and constant testing
21:06 – “Balanced lunches” → a smart way to use AI for client meal ideas
23:12 – Starting online with zero clients: build in public, test offers, lead magnets
26:29 – Retention & engagement through Nov–Dec: future-pacing & planning
30:07 – The Enhanced Games: performance, money, and messy incentives
38:05 – PTMA Conference update: one-day Friday ticket & bigger room
Ant and Sky are back (minus Nick… who still refuses to take a holiday).
This week, they tackle the questions every coach should be asking right now — from building a new audience to planning launches, avoiding complacency, and creating offers that actually convert.
They cover:
💡 How to transition from PT to nutrition coaching without losing your audience
🎯 The real difference between a lead magnet and a front-end offer (and which to use when)
🗓️ Why waiting for January is one of the biggest mistakes you can make
📈 How to track your metrics like a pro and find untapped growth opportunities
🤝 Turning “Can you write me a meal plan?” into a genuine coaching conversation
💌 Why your email list > Instagram followers
🚀 The easiest way to stay consistent with daily tasks and marketing
🧠 Why “done-with-you” systems beat “done-for-you” every time for long-term client retention
It’s equal parts strategy, mindset, and reality check — perfect for PTs and coaches who want to finish the year strong and start 2025 ahead of the pack.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Host Dynamics
00:54 Transitioning Focus: From Personal Training to Nutrition
07:03 Effective Lead Magnets: Strategies for Success
10:41 Timing Your Launch: November vs. January
12:48 Avoiding Complacency: Maintaining Momentum in Success
16:27 Responding to Nutrition Plan Requests: Building Relationships
21:45 Untapped Opportunities: Metrics and Marketing Strategies
25:42 Building Connections Beyond Social Media
26:38 The Importance of Landing Pages and Email Lists
28:33 Differentiating Coaching Services in a Crowded Market
30:21 Strategic Marketing Planning for Coaches
31:40 Daily Task Management for Coaches
35:32 Creating Effective Front-End Offers for Clients
40:52 The Value of Done-With-You Systems for Client Retention
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:43 Building a Structured Content Plan
08:09 Engaging Your Audience on Social Media
14:18 Compartmentalizing Client Issues
16:56 Learning from Mistakes
21:21 Marketing Multiple Services
24:56 The Role of AI in Coaching
31:55 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Timestamps;
00:00 Introduction and Morning Banter
01:21 Increasing Engagement on Social Media Stories
05:37 The Hustle: Does It Ever Stop?
06:43 Being Aggressive in Content Creation
09:12 Restarting Your Career: What Would You Change?
11:45 Anticipating New Speakers at Events
13:56 Life After Death: A Lighthearted Discussion
15:11 Best Online Purchase Hooks for Cold Leads
16:50 Underrated Benefits of Being a Coach
18:53 Rebranding Your Business: Key Focus Areas
20:33 Doubts About Niche and Market Fit