• 29 minutes
    026 - Celebrating Mixed Women's "Her"story Month

    This episode celebrates Women's History Month by highlighting the powerful contributions of multiracial women throughout history and today. It challenges stereotypes like the tragic mulatto trope and showcases inspiring stories of resilience, leadership, and self-identity following Kamala Harris, Naomi Osaka, Tracee Ellis Ross, and Alysa Liu.

    21 March 2026, 12:32 am
  • 37 minutes 36 seconds
    Interracial Relationships & The Power Dynamics of Love

    In this episode of Both And, Beth & Leila explore the complexities of interracial relationships, focusing on the historical context, power dynamics, and societal influences that shape the multiracial experience.

    7 February 2026, 2:31 pm
  • 43 minutes 30 seconds
    024 - Traveling Through Stories

    Beth and Leila reflect on their personal growth in 2025, the power of reading, and the impact of travel on understanding different cultures. They explore the significance of storytelling in the multiracial experience, emphasizing how stories can humanize others and challenge stereotypes.

    The conversation also touches on the dangers of misinformation, particularly in the age of AI, and concludes with book recommendations that have shaped their worldviews, encouraging listeners to be intentional about the stories they consume.

    3 January 2026, 3:00 am
  • 33 minutes 19 seconds
    023 - Exploring Multiracial Theory

    Leila and Beth delve into the complexities of Critical Multiracial Theory, exploring how it challenges traditional monoracial paradigms.

    They discuss the unique experiences of multiracial individuals, the impact of systemic racism, and the importance of embracing one's full identity. Join them as they unpack the nuances of race, identity, and belonging, encouraging listeners to reflect on their own perceptions and the stories they tell.

    7 November 2025, 10:00 pm
  • 33 minutes 8 seconds
    022 - Creating Spaces of Belonging & Pride

    In this episode of Both And, Leila and Beth delve into the complexities of multiracial identity in America. They discuss the socio-political challenges faced by multiracial individuals, the concept of monoracism, and the importance of creating spaces of belonging. The conversation touches on personal experiences, historical events, and the role of media in shaping identity.


    4 October 2025, 1:04 pm
  • 30 minutes 20 seconds
    021 - Fighting Erasure with Multiracial Voices & American Truths

    In this episode, Leila and Beth explore the complexities of multiracial identities and the broader implications of historical erasure in America.

    They discuss the March 2025 executive order aimed at rewriting history, the role of museums in preserving narratives, and the importance of community action in response to censorship.

    Through personal stories and cultural heritage, they emphasize the need for individuals to actively engage with their identities and histories, advocating for a more inclusive understanding of the past.

    30 August 2025, 9:13 pm
  • 35 minutes 45 seconds
    020 - Repost - Racial Identity Development Models

    In this episode, Beth and Leila dive into the layered and often personal journey of racial identity development.

    They walk through different models that show how people from various racial backgrounds navigate and shape their identities over time.

    Along the way, they explore why community support and authentic representation matter so much, especially for multiracial identities. Both And invites you to reflect on your own story and consider how you can help create a richer, more inclusive conversation around racial identity.

    15 August 2025, 11:00 am
  • 40 minutes 36 seconds
    019 - Let's Talk About the Attack on DEI

    In this episode, Leila and Beth discuss the impact of the national rollback of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives on marginalized communities, particularly the multiracial population.


    We explore the importance of DEI in creating inclusive workplaces, share personal experiences related to accessibility, and examine the consequences of recent policy changes.


    And Will is back as our guest and legal mastermind! Will is a labor and employment attorney, who provides a legal perspective on DEI policies and the challenges companies face in navigating these changes.


    Despite national rollbacks, many major companies continue to lead with purpose and stand firm in their commitment to DEI. Since we didn't have a chance to spotlight those companies on the episode, here is a quick rundown to jump start your search for corporations across sectors that are doubling down on DEI initiatives


    🧠 Highlights Include:

    • Tech & Finance: Apple, Microsoft, and JPMorgan Chase are tying innovation and community investment directly to DEI.

    • Retail & Consumer Brands: Costco, e.l.f. Beauty, and Ben & Jerry’s maintain strong inclusive programs and transparent strategies.

    • Airlines & Apparel: Delta, Southwest, and Patagonia remain vocal in supporting equity, both internally and externally.

    • Everyday Grocers: From Kroger and Trader Joe’s to Hannaford and Sprouts, many regional and national stores continue to integrate DEI into their culture and operations.

    1 August 2025, 5:20 pm
  • 27 minutes 49 seconds
    018 - The 2020 Census: Progress and Pitfalls

    In this episode of "Both And," hosts Leila and Beth delve into the transformative impact of the 2020 Census on multiracial representation in America. They explore how the census's expanded racial categories allowed for a more accurate reflection of multiracial identities, increasing the multiracial population count from 3.4% to 10.2%. 


    References & Resources: 

    19 July 2025, 12:16 pm
  • 29 minutes 45 seconds
    017 - We're Back America!

    Leila and Beth reintroduce their podcast, discussing the multiracial experience in America and sharing personal updates since their last episode in 2021. They explore themes of parenting multiracial children, navigating work-life balance, and the evolution of their racial identities. The conversation also touches on the political climate, community engagement, and the importance of cultural heritage, all while emphasizing hope and advocacy for future generations.

    4 July 2025, 7:42 pm
  • 32 minutes 44 seconds
    016 - Mixed Perspectives of 2020

    Beth and Leila talk about how some of the most notable events of 2020 impacted the multiracial community and their hopes for 2021. 

    18 January 2021, 6:00 am
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