Truce

Chris Staron

A history podcast about the Christian Church. Pyramid schemes, political campaigns, and all the big questions.

  • 51 minutes 19 seconds
    Republicans and Evangelicals I Women's Roundtable Book Discussion

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    Betty Friedan's The Feminine Mystique kicked off second-wave feminism in the United States. The book was published in 1963 and addressed what she called "the problem that has no name". As women's roles shifted with the invention of electricity and the number of workers needed to run farms decreased, women's roles shifted. The idea of a "traditional" woman went from a farm laborer or factory worker to someone who kept the home and managed her children's schedules. This left many women feeling unsatisfied and searching for their purpose in life. Friedan's book addressed those issues and inspired more extreme views of women.

    Several "Christian" books were published to respond to Friedan and second-wave feminism. One was The Total Woman, the number one bestselling nonfiction book of the year which has sold over 10 million copies. Published in 1973, it was the genesis of the scene in Fried Green Tomatoes where Kathy Bates goes to the door to meet her husband wrapped in Saran Wrap. It encouraged women to use costumes to greet their husbands, to avoid being "shrewish", and to use Norman Vincent Peele's philosophy of positive thinking.

    Another book was The Spirit-Controlled Woman by Beverly LaHaye. This was a companion piece to a book written by her husband Tim LaHaye, but it somehow managed to avoid telling women how to live by the Spirit.

    Special guests join Chris for this episode. Each took a different book so we can better understand this movement and counter-movement.

    Special Guests:


    Sources:

    • The Feminine Mystique by Betty Friedan
    • The Spirit-Controlled Woman by Beverly LaHaye
    • The Total Woman by Marabel Morgan


    Discussion Questions:

    • What is your relationship to the books we discussed in these episodes?
    • What is the difference between first-wave feminism and second-wave feminism?
    • How have the roles of women changed in society in the last 200 years? What role did electricity, the Industrial Revolution and wars shaped those roles?
    • What was the "problem that has no name"? How did/does it impact women's lives?
    • How does this vision of feminism compare and contrast to biblical images of women?
    • How have we added or subtracted from what the Bible says about women to create our modern image of a "Christian woman"?
    • Morgan advised her readers to meet their husbands at the door in costumes. What is your opinion of this idea?
    • What did she mean when she said she had been "shrewish"? Is that term insulting to women? Why?
    • Is the "Christian ideal" vision of women one that requires women to stay home with children?

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    8 October 2024, 11:00 am
  • 34 minutes 7 seconds
    Compelled - KKK Terrorist Finds Christ

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    In the 1960s, Tom Tarrants was a young man on a mission - to save America from Communism, Marxism, and desegregation. He was prepared to do anything, including joining the Ku Klux Klan, drive-by shootings, or even dying for his cause. Yet God had a far greater plan for this would-be revolutionary.

    Find the Compelled Podcast at https://compelledpodcast.com/

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    2 October 2024, 11:00 am
  • 39 minutes 20 seconds
    Republicans and Evangelicals I National Women's Conference Part 2 (featuring Marjorie Spruill)

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    The National Women's Conference was set to take place. State meetings were overrun by conservative women causing disruptions to the meetings as they paid the entrance fee with pennies or made noises during the discussions. But liberal women were not angels either. Some went so far as to accuse the conservatives of sending in mental patients to do their voting.

    It's easy in all of the noise to forget that this was a monumental meeting. Women from all over the country gathered together to discuss issues that impacted them. They ran the show. They set the agenda. Conservative women, by and large, didn't show up for the main meeting. Why? Because of conspiracy theories circulated by groups led by people like Phyllis Schlafly saying that the elections would be rigged. Also, they started their own conference across town.

    This pro-life, pro-family rally was only about three hours long. But it packed a big punch. People from all over the country took busses overnight to attend. They couldn't stay the night because hotels were already booked up for the main meeting. So they came and went on the same day, taking the pro-family, pro-life movement with them.

    In this episode, Chris winds up a three-part mini-series that takes us from Phyllis Schlafly's turn against the ERA to this momentous weekend in 1977. The fallout of the conference is still with us today as religious people on the right work together to accomplish their goals, often trying to undo what liberals on the far left have already done. Extremes continue to snipe at extremes as the middle tries to get things done.

    Our guest for this episode is Marjorie Spruill, author of the book Divided We Stand. It is an excellent resource that is balanced and well-notated.

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    Discussion Questions:

    • What were some positive outcomes of the National Women's Year conference?
    • What were some challenges they faced?
    • Why did conservatives feel shut out of the conference?
    • What do you think about the role of conspiracy theories in conservative circles (example: Schlafly's insistence that the meeting votes were rigged)?
    • Schlafly was overlooked in the Reagan administration. Why do you think that is?
    • Why is it so hard for people of different beliefs to work together, even for the common good?
    • What do you think would have happened if the IWY conference had not featured lesbian rights? Should it have avoided that controversial topic, or was it an issue whose moment had come?

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    24 September 2024, 11:00 am
  • 50 minutes 28 seconds
    Republicans and Evangelicals I National Women's Conference Part 1 (featuring Marjorie Spruill)

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    In 1977, the Congress of the United States allotted $5 million for the National Women's Conference. The money was intended to bring together women from around the country so that they could put together recommendations for the Congress and President. It would highlight women of color, and those minorities who were sometimes overlooked like Native American women. But there was conflict from its inception.

    Liberal women, some of the same who turned NOW into a liberal group, took control. They did not want the far-right to participate, women like Phyllis Schlafly who had fought so hard to stall the ERA. This only made conservative women more bitter.

    There was more fuel for the fire. Gay and lesbian rights were added to the discussion topics of the convention. That was a big deal in 1977 when conservative women rallied around Anita Bryant and her fight against equal rights for homosexuals in Miami, Florida. The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin, so some conservative religious people did not want to give homosexuals rights in the US. So for liberal women to incorporate a gay and lesbian plank into the National Women's Conference was a BIG deal. And a way to pick a fight with conservatives.

    The battle ultimately led to conservatives hosting their own conference a few miles away. This gathering ultimately united the Religious Right and kicked off the Pro-Life, Pro-Family movement that we know today. How did women play a role in uniting evangelicals with the Republican Party?

    Our guest today is Marjoie Spruill. She is the author of the fantastic book Divided We Stand. She is a distinguished professor emerita of history at the University of South Carolina.

    Sources:

    • Divided We Stand by Marjorie Spruill
    • Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
    • The Evangelicals by Frances Fitzgerald
    • Anita Bryant's orange juice commercial
    • Phyllis Schlafly on PBS video
    • Former President Trump's eulogy for Phyllis Schlafly
    • Andy Warhol's cover art for Time Magazine of Bella Abzug
    • New York Times article about women swinging while their husbands were in Vietnam
    • "Revive Us Again" by Joel Carpenter


    Discussion Questions:

    • What is your impression of Anita Bryant? Do you remember her?
    • What rights should homosexuals have in the United States? In the last episode about Phyllis Schlafly, we looked at conflicting opinions of what equal rights look like for women. Should they be treated the same as men or have equality plus protections? Let's transfer that question to homosexuals. Should they have equal rights, fewer rights, or equal rights plus protections?
    • Should women on the president's council have opened the National Women's Conference to women on the far right?
    • What do you think will happen once the conference is launched?

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    10 September 2024, 11:00 am
  • 3 minutes 55 seconds
    Chris Quits Driving A School Bus

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    7 September 2024, 6:05 am
  • 34 minutes 27 seconds
    Republicans and Evangelicals I Phyllis Schlafly and the ERA (featuring Marjorie Spruill)

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    Phyllis Schalfly was a remarkable woman. Regardless of your politics, you have to admire the impact that one person, who was never elected to office, could have on national political conversations. Schlafly was already part of the in-crowd in Washington when she took a stance against the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA). She was an exercise in nuance herself-- a woman who fought for traditional views of women in society, while also earning a law degree and touring the nation on speaking tours. She had a family and held a prominent position in the national zeitgeist, even building on battles fought by Anita Bryant.

    But who was Phyllis Schlafly? She was a Catholic woman, which is important because Catholics had long been the victims of prejudice in the United States. She was a mother, a popular speaker, publisher of The Phyllis Schlafly Report newsletter, and author of books like A Choice, Not An Echo, which was a conspiratorial screed about stealing elections. This lady knew how to turn a story. She ran for Congress in 1955 and again in 1970, losing both times.

    Then in 1972, she learned about the ERA. The Equal Rights Amendment was first proposed by Alice Paul in 1923. The goal was to have men and women treated equally under the law. That means that women would no longer receive special protections either. So... a double-edged sword, right? Women in the 1960s and 70s still had a ways to go when it came to equality. It brought forth some big questions about how to achieve it.

    Schlafly wanted to protect the protections. So she formed STOP ERA (Stop Taking Our Protections, ERA) to rally her followers against the ERA. This was a big twist because state after state had rushed to ratify the amendment. But once Phyllis got going, they applied the brakes and waited.

    Schlafly may have single-handedly stopped an Amendment to the Constitution.

    In this episode, we're going to learn about this dynamo. A woman who is both loved and hated. An intelligent woman, and someone who traded in falsities.

    Our guests for this episode are Marjorie Spruill, author of Divided We Stand and Angie Maxwell, author of The Long Southern Strategy.


    Important Sources:

    • Divided We Stand by Marjorie Spruill
    • The Long Southern Strategy by Angie Maxwell
    • Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
    • A helpful list of milestones in women's rights
    • Video of Esther Peterson
    • Video of Phyllis Schlafly talking about A Choice, Not An Echo on C-SPAN
    • A copy of Ladies, Have Ya' Heard? as mentioned in the episode
    • Illinois State Archives interview with Phyllis
    • An article from Time Magazine about the ERA's history
    • Britannica article about The Fairness Doctrine
    • Smithsonian article about Phyllis Schlafly


    Discussion Questions:

    • What do you think about legal protections for women? Are you an Esther, an Alice, or a Phyllis?
    • The ERA is really short. Do you think it should be more specific to clarify its position?
    • How have you seen sexism? How has it impacted your life?
    • Have you seen women treated well in the workplace? What made the difference?
    • Are stay-at-home mothers respected in our society? If not, what can you and your church do to support them?
    • What are your impressions of Phyllis?
    • Are you okay with people using conspiracy theories to bolster their followings?
    • We've spent a fair bit of time this season talking about parachurch organizations. What are your thoughts on them?

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    27 August 2024, 11:00 am
  • 49 minutes 52 seconds
    Republicans and Evangelicals I RJ Rushdoony and Christian Reconstruction

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    RJ Rushdoony is not a household name. But he influenced a lot of interesting people, from members of the New Right to the Christian homeschooling movement. His books and lectures inspired people to pull their kids out of public schools and teach them at home. But who was RJ Rushdoony?

    He was deeply impacted by his time doing missionary work on a Native American reservation. There he saw how difficult it was to get anything done and to give people proper access to their government. He went on to work with libertarian organizations like Spiritual Mobilization and the Volker Fund. His mentor Cornelius Van Til taught him to see the triad of government, church, and family in a new way. In Rushdoony's mind, those three spheres should not interfere with each other. BUT, he did want Christians to run the government. Instead of doing a top-down change, he wanted change to begin with families, then rise to the church, eventually taking over the political sphere.

    Howard Phillips, one of the founders of the New Right, was a disciple of Rushdoony. So was his son, Doug Phillips, who founded the homeschooling movement known as Vision Forum. In this episode, Chris interviews Paul Hastings of the Compelled podcast about how they met at a Vision Forum film festival.

    The special guest for today is Michael McVicar, author of "Christian Reconstruction: R.J. Rushdoony and American Religious Conservatism."


    Sources:

    • Christian Reconstruction: R.J. Rushdoony and American Religious Conservatism by Michael McVicar
    • Reaganland by Rick Perlstein
    • The Evangelicals by Frances Fitzgerald
    • Helpful article about libertarian philosophy
    • One Nation Under God by Kevin Kruse


    Discussion Questions:

    • How do you think Rushdoony was impacted by his experiences on the reservation?
    • What is libertarianism? What do you think about it?
    • In what ways have you seen libertarianism presented in evangelical culture?
    • What did Rushdoony think about public schools? How was this a departure from progressive-era Christian thinkers?
    • How does Christian homeschooling differ from other forms of homeschooling?
    • Why did homeschooling take off in the 1980s and 1990s?
    • What role, if any, should Christians play in public schools?

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    13 August 2024, 11:00 am
  • 34 minutes 35 seconds
    Republicans and Evangelicals I Kanawha County Textbook War

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    In 1974, Alice Moore was a member of the school board in Kanawha County, West Virginia. The board met to hear the recommendations of the textbook committee and approve them. But Alice protested when she read a portion from the Autobiography of Malcolm X, which thanked Allah for preventing Malcolm X from being a black Christian. From there they uncovered a number of potentially offensive texts, some because of language, others because of discussions of rape. Race was likely a factor as well, though Moore denied it.

    Local pastors decried what they saw as secularism and humanism creeping into public schools. Parents blocked school buses, and others kept their children at home. Soon, there were fights, and dynamite was used to blow up school buildings. What started as a disagreement over books erupted into an all-out war. One that echoed in other parts of the country at the same time as families wrestled with changes in education.

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    Discussion Questions:

    • Had you heard of the textbook war before?
    • What did you think of the passage from "Soul on Ice"? Should it be read by senior students headed for college? What about other students?
    • Who should decide what gets taught in local school districts? How about nationally?
    • How did Alice Moore and others act appropriately? How about inappropriately?
    • The KKK and John Birch Society show up a few times this season, often opportunistically. Does their appearance automatically smear all participants as racist?
    • What else was going on in 1974 that could have escalated the panic of the era?

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    30 July 2024, 11:00 am
  • 36 minutes 14 seconds
    Republicans and Evangelicals I The New Deal

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    Something had to be done. The Great Depression meant the loss of a vast number of jobs and left families waiting on bread lines. Economists like John Meynard Keynes puzzled over what to do. President Hoover took a laissez-faire approach to the catastrophe, only to have matters get worse. Then Franklin D. Roosevelt came into office and his administration kicked The New Deal into gear. It was a program that offered diverse aid to citizens from protections for money in banks to homeowner assistance.

    Many Christian leaders came to hate the New Deal, especially libertarians. Their opposition to the New Deal as creeping socialism sparked the National Prayer Breakfast, some of Billy Graham's speeches, and the bonding of capitalism to Christianity and the US. So we should probably know what the New Deal was!

    Our guest on this episode is Justin Rosolino. He's a high school history teacher and the author of the book "Idiot Sojourning Soul".

    You can find pictures of Chris' 50-mile New Deal Bike Tour on the website at www.trucepodcast.com.


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    Topics Discussed:

    • What was the Social Gospel?
    • Who was Franklin Roosevelt?
    • What was the New Deal?
    • The Civilian Conservation Corp
    • The Works Progress Administration
    • Jenny Lake - Grand Teton National Park
    • Unemployment


    Discussion Questions:

    • Why do some people dislike the New Deal?
    • Which of the programs most impacts you?
    • What do you think of the New Deal? Was it a form of socialism?
    • Do you think there will ever be another New Deal in the US?

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    9 July 2024, 11:00 am
  • 28 minutes 53 seconds
    Republicans and Evangelicals I End of School Prayer

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    In 1955, the Board of Regents for New York issued an optional prayer to be used in public schools. It became known as the "Regent's Prayer". Here it is: "“Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence upon Thee, and we beg Thy blessings upon us, our parents, our teachers, and our Country.” That short prayer was contested not only by non-religious people but also by Protestants who thought that it was too vague. What God is it talking about? Where is the mention of Jesus or the Holy Spirit, salvation, sin, grace, etc.?

    With help from the ACLU, parents sued and the case made it all the way to the US Supreme Court. It was known as Engle v. Vitale. It overturned prescribed prayer in schools. In this episode, Chris goes through the arguments the court and Justice Hugo Black made during this landmark decision. A year later, the Court heard Abington School District v. Schempp, which ended prescribed Bible reading in public schools.

    This season we're covering how American evangelicals bonded themselves with the Republican Party. There are a lot of reasons that evangelicals started to vote as a block in the late 70s and early 1980s. They range from women's liberation, changes in attitude toward taxation, and battles over gay and lesbian rights, to education. This is part of our coverage of the education section. This episode has been rewritten and recorded, updating an episode from season 3.

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    Discussion Questions:

    • Did you ever pray in school? What did you pray?
    • Did you ever read the Bible in school?
    • Is there an "ideal" prayer that should be read in schools? If so, what is it? What objections might parents have?
    • Is it important for school children to learn about religions in school?
    • Do you agree or disagree with Justice Hugo Black?

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    25 June 2024, 11:00 am
  • 46 minutes 29 seconds
    Republicans and Evangelicals I Can I Love Extremists?

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    It seems like so many people define their faith by what they believe about Donald Trump. How can godly Christians return to the gospel to get us back on track?

    In this round table discussion episode, Chris is joined by Pastor Ray McDaniel of First Baptist Church in Jackson, WY and Nick Staron to prepare us for the season.

    Topics Discussed:

    • What is Christianity?
    • The importance of forgiveness and going to those who are angry with us
    • Why it is important to cover things like the Watergate scandals of the 1970s in a Christian podcast
    • The need for humility in our lives
    • The gospel in 10 words or less


    Do you have a gospel message in 10 words or less? Find Truce on social media and let us know!

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    11 June 2024, 11:00 am
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