What’s a conspiracy without a rabbit hole to jump down?

Welcome back to Terror Month. This week, we’re covering the internet deep dives that are keeping us up at night, as Jason and Tyler welcome on Carter Roy of the podcast ‘Conspiracy Theories.’ Topics today include: CIA psychic spies, a story about the Contras, the Chronovisor time camera, and the recent report that O.J. Simpson may have had some help.

(00:00) Internet rabbit holes gone wrong: The story of Q

(03:09) Our guest: Carter Roy of ‘Conspiracy Theories’

(03:41) Carter’s nagging conspiracy deep dive: The Vegas shooter

(10:15)  Kiki Camarena, the Contras, and Félix

(26:31) CIA psychics and the Ark of the Covenant

(37:58) The Scientology connection

(41:43) The Chronovisor: the Vatican's time camera

(51:17) What's really in the Vatican archives?

(01:04:34) Doomscroll: Did O.J. have an accomplice?

(01:10:29) The livestreamed execution gets called off

(01:15:11) The deadly fire at a Canadian army base

(01:18:34) Albania's "Flamingo Revolution" update

(01:21:57) Kim Jong-un is (once again) not dead … we think

(01:26:54) AI cracks Napoleon's secret letter

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Is Rob Mahoney the most normal man at The Ringer? Debatable. But we are sure that he’s our guest today and down to get weird with Jason and Tyler. On the agenda today: a French aristocrat accused of murdering his family who became a fugitive, Jason’s top 10 fugitives still on the loose, a discussion about the Fort Hood shooter’s execution, and a lengthy debate about Shrek’s, umm, anatomy. (0:00) The war criminal who became a healing doctor (03:05) Our guest: Rob Mahoney (05:02) Rob’s conspiracy theory: Kelly Clarkson and the animatronic bird (10:39) Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès: Who is XDL? (15:05) The bodies under the terrace and his last known location (28:49 Why hasn’t he been charged? French law and Anatomy of a Fall (35:10) Top 10 fugitives still on the loose (42:42) Remember Kony? (43:23) How would you disappear in 2026? (45:27) Historic cases: Mr. Cruel, the Doodler, Freeway Phantom, I-70 Killer (55:07) Possible serial killer on a Lansing, Michigan, trail (58:04) The Fort Hood shooter’s execution debacle (01:03:18) How do you feel about Shrek’s d**k? (01:10:04) One more CIA gold bar update (01:13:49) Hackers heat up French supermarket fridges (01:17:30) Former German spy chief arrested for treason (01:21:58) The Lighthouse of Alexandria signet found underwater Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcast Email us: [email protected] Follow us on IG: @waitasecondpodcast Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Rob Mahoney Producer: Justin Sayles Video editing: Jordan Satmary Engineering: Sarah Reddy Social media: Paige Ransbury Thumbnail: Matt James

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Terror Month continues and we’re looking upward to the skies. Jason and Tyler use last week’s wild flydubai story to discuss other harrowing aviation incidents before hitting updates on the Siberian plague situation, Christa Pike’s botched execution, and more.

(00:00) The mysterious case of Ben Padilla

(02:57) The flydubai copilot axe attack

(08:47) Edibles and passing out on a red-eye

(13:26) Germanwings Flight 9525

(30:02) The flydubai "false flag" theory

(32:34) Doomscroll: The plague is back?

(41:59)  Christa Pike update

(52:01)  Another Epstein death

(56:04) The Fed official honeypot scheme

(01:02:46) Anthropic gets even more religious

(01:07:16) Houthis (and Toyotas 4runners)

(01:12:09) The Arizona road-rage AI video

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Wait a Second… is kicking off Terror Month with the most terrifying idea of all: nuclear annihilation. Following news last month that an AI chatbot nearly got us into a war with China, Jason and Tyler look back at the early-’80s incidents that nearly brought the Cold War to a boil. With the help of The Ringer’s Joel Anderson, they talk NORAD and real-life war games.

Later, they break down the Tupac murder trial and conviction of Duane “Keefe D” Davis, which Joel wrote about on The Ringer last week.

Today’s agenda:

(00:00) The real-life ‘WarGames’

(02:39) Our guest today: Joel Anderson

(04:00) Could AI accidentally start a war?

(08:17) Setting the stage for a nuclear near-miss

(26:17) The Cold War gets very, very close

(39:13) The Soviet “Dead Hand” System

(42:30) The Tupac murder verdict and the conspiracy theories

(53:56) The LAPD, Keefe D, and the case against him

(58:08) The American Idol Murder Case

(01:03:17) A Bob Iger COVID conspiracy

(01:06:59) Hackers breach the FBI. What did they want?

(01:09:49) The mysterious Milwaukee “bad boy” sound

Read Joel’s piece on the Keefe D verdict here: https://www.theringer.com/2026/09/23/music/tupac-shakur-murder-trial-keffe-d-davis-conviction-conspiracy-theories

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Jason and Tyler are back and they're breaking down one of the most mysterious cases in American history: the murder of Lizzie Borden's parents. With the help of producer Justin, they look into the case against Lizzie, alternative suspects, and why the story was ripe for an adaptation in Ryan Murphy's Netflix series 'Monster.'
Then, they look at one of the most messed-up cases they've seen recently: the R.C. Horsch investigation in Philadelphia. Are we looking at a serial killer situation?

Today's agenda:

(00:00) The grisly case of Christman of Kerpen

(02:22) Lizzie Borden took an axe ...

(10:26) The 90-minute gap.

(14:08) Wouldn't it make a noise?

(24:27) Let's talk about motive.

(30:44) The Lizzie-Bridget theory.

(39:11) So who did it?

(55:35) One more thought on Bill James.

(01:00:45) The Philadelphia house of horrors: What is happening here?

(01:15:04) Doomscroll: The Florida plastic surgeon who defended himself.

(01:22:39) We almost went to war with China ... because of a chatbot.

(01:23:55) The Russian-backed murder plot we're obsessing over.

(01:26:50) A new King Tut theory.

Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker
Producer: Justin Sayles
Video editing: Jordan Satmary
Engineering: Jason Arreola
Social media: Paige Ransbury
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Seems like a lot of you buy into the WTC Building 7 conspiracies. So, we’re diving back in. Jason and Tyler are joined by friend of the show Big Wos to break down your Building 7 comments, Osama Bin Laden theories, and more.

Today’s agenda:

00:06: The 1977 Russian Embassy Fire

02:30: Our guest: Wosny Lambre

04:28: 9/11 memories

17:17: WTC Building 7, Revisited

44:42: Doomscroll: Don Jr.’s Big Fat Russian-Funded Wedding

49:29: The CIA gold bar guy is taking a plea?

52:34: Your Apple Watch doesn’t care about eavesdropping laws

55:10: The Heathrow disaster

57:18: Why are the military commissary freezers malfunctioning?

01:00:28: Ancient cannibalism update

01:02:26: The earliest signs of human drug use

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It’s the silver anniversary of September 11, and Jason and Tyler are digging into two mysteries that endure to this day: the anthrax attacks and what really happened to WTC Building 7.
Here’s their agenda:
00:01: What’s missing from the 9/11 Commission Report?
00:45: Today’s topic: September 11, a quarter-century later.
05:12: Who really sent the anthrax letters?
47:45: WTC Building 7: conspiracy or not?
58:47: Doomscroll: OpenAI wants to slow down?!
01:02:18: Saturn grew a decagon!
01:04:02: Imagine you dig up a viking hoard …
01:05:28: Your LG TV hears for you … maybe
01:07:41: DK Metcalf, Dre Greenlaw, and the NFL’s sudden Antarctica fascination
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Jason and Tyler are joined once again by co-host of The Watch and first-ballot Wait a Second... hall-of-famer, Chris Ryan. And they've got something scary to dig into: CIA Director John Ratcliffe's secret trip to Moscow and everything that's happened related to Russia since. Also on the agenda and slightly less scary (we hope): the island that disappeared.
Here's today's rundown:
(00:08) History Repeats: Kissinger's secret trip to Moscow
(02:29) Our guest today: Chris Ryan
(03:28) The Big Story: John Ratcliffe's secret trip to Russia
(25:03) Are we equipped for the wars we're in?
(28:23) Wait, an island disappeared?
(31:08) Top 10 Disappearing, Reappearing, or Legendary Land Masses
(40:50) The Doomscroll: Daniel Kinahan talk with CR
(49:04) Hugging Face attack updates
(59:37) And finally ... Daejon Love
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Guest: Chris Ryan
Producers: T Cruz and Justin Sayles
Video editing: Marco Escalante and T Cruz
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Buckle up: Conspiracy Bill is back. Bill Simmons joins the pod to surprise Jason and Tyler with the 12 stories that have had him doing deep dives. Here’s today’s agenda:

00:07: Stephen King’s alias

04:39: Bill Simmons’s alias: Conspiracy Bill

08:40: Conspiracy Bill’s 12 Deepest Dives of the Year

20:12: No. 12: Havana Syndrome

25:35: No. 11: The Fox News mask incident

29:44: No. 10: Epstein won the Powerball?!

31:37: No. 9: The Whitehouse Correspondents Dinner

35:51: No. 8: What happened at the Miami mall?

38:41: No. 7: The Niners substation situation

41:32: No. 6: Nancy Guthrie

43:24: No. 5: What’s up with Trump’s ear? His hand?

48:35: No. 4: The microphone …

48:35: No. 3: Missing scientists

54:36: No. 2: Matt Miller … or Karen Read

01:00:33 No. 1: The Lindsay Clancy case

01:10:25 Bonus round: Why did Mark Cuban sell the Mavs? Plus: JC’s Long Island serial killer theory.

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Guest: Bill Simmons
Producers: T Cruz and Justin Sayles
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Midnight Boy and very concerned Lakers fan Jomi Adeniran joins Jason and Tyler to break down an eventful—and suspicious—week in L.A. sports. First, they break down everything surrounding the Lakers sale (including the involvement of the alleged "good" Kushner) and the ongoing Buss family drama. Then, they look at the NBA's investigation into Kawhi Leonard and Steve Ballmer, which is reportedly nearing a conclusion.

02:48: Connecting all the dots on the Lakers Sale
16:48: Adam Silver's role in this?
29:25: The "good" Kushner
31:30: The Buss family drama: Jeanie goes 20-v-1
42:46: Lakers GM Chris Paul?
44:40: The latest on Kawhi
57:25: The Pablo Torre of it all
01:00:38: The Doomscroll: Bill Gates's daughter and cookie stuffing
01:05:50: Evidence in the ice cream box
01:09:30: Two origins of life on Earth?
01:11:35: The Romans took tax fraud really seriously
01:14:55: Military leave for 'GTA VI'

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The Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel joins the podcast to help break down the small-potato scenarios of AI run amok.

In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(7:15) Low-stakes AI scenarios

(40:21) Trump’s catering truck escape

(43:57) AI viruses

(47:22) The missing Nicolas Cage movie

(54:18) Ancient Chinese civilization

(57:02) Italy’s cheese banks

(59:21) Flock stalking

(1:03:26) Iranian money laundering

Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Charlie Warzel

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

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