**Original air date 11/10. Sorry if this is duplicated elsewhere, had to upload another version because some pod catchers are missing the episode**

This week, Kate is joined by “America’s Government Teacher” Sharon McMahon of @sharonsaysso and NYT bestselling author of The Small and the Mighty. The first half of the episode contains some of Kate’s off the cuff thoughts / existential spirals following the election results and the second half of the episode is a nonpartisan discussion (FYI recorded 3 weeks BEFORE the election) about topics like: whose written into (and out of) history, what’s at stake in the election regarding the state of our democracy, how to approach people of differing beliefs, what she thinks are the most importantly yet overlooked issues, what we are in for in the coming months, and beyond. 

After this week, back to regularly scheduled pop cultural programming :) Enjoy!

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In this bonus episode, Kate discusses the impact of reproductive rights on millennial women ahead of the 2024 election, and uses experts and real-life stories to showcase how prioritizing a highly interconnected system of rights and freedoms impacting half the population is the farthest thing from a “single issue.”

This episode has three parts: 

00:00 Kate’s intro about the multi-faceted nature of reproductive freedom and millennials’ unique position re: being child-bearing age when the U.S. Supreme Court abandoned its duty to protect citizens’ fundamental rights and overturned Roe v. Wade 

23:58 An interview with Dr. Roohi Jeelani, MD, FACOG, double board certified Reproductive Endocrinologist and Infertility Specialist (REI) and Chief Medical Officer of Kindbody, who provides unbiased, scientific insights into IVF, fetal personhood, and the existing and potential complications that arise from misconceived policies related to IVF

59:28 (TW) Kate reads real listener-submitted personal stories about a broad spectrum of reproductive issues, e.g. the challenging landscape modern women face due to restrictive abortion laws when managing their lives and losses, experiences being provided limited options in strict states and/or Catholic hospitals for contraception, induced abortions, and miscarriage management, along with examples of women who felt forced to cross state lines to receive necessary care, heartbreaking stories about barriers in TFMR situations, and women affected by the IVF ruling in Alabama, among other experiences.

The goal of this non-monetized bonus episode is to 1. help clarify the murky and somewhat sudden involvement of IVF in the 2024 election cycle rhetoric, and 2. to provide listeners with examples of how politicians’ throwaway talking points can profoundly affect everyday women’ lives in dangerous and devastating ways.

It's All Hallows Eve, and Kate has crowd-sourced listener ghost stories to hear about your interactions with the other side. First, she details her fascination with ghost fashions, witchy rituals at sleepovers, and millennials' collective obsession with fall; then, she dives into your paranormal-core sightings—episode 1 of 2 this week. Enjoy!

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This week, Kate is joined by her sister Kelly, live from their attempt to do an incredibly hard viral dance move that the internet gaslit them into believing would be easy. In this episode, they mostly revisit The Tortured Poets Department for the first time on-air since they recorded their reaction video in April and update listeners on their favorite spins, skips, and sentimental lyrics that helped them reminisce, rage, or ruminate from their headphones in different ways. From TikTok dances and yearbook staff memories to deep emotional reflections on love, loss, and personal growth, this episode’s got something for everyone. Enjoy and listen for more of this conversation this weekend on patreon.com/bethereinfive.

Kate’s under the weather but over the moon to do some nostalgic reminiscing about staying home sick as a kid with a bed pillow on the couch, knowing exaggerating symptoms may be wrong but at least she got to watch The Price is Right. Then, she crowdsources wellness related Old Wives Tales/urban legends, and fact checks them live on-air, like if wet hair in the cold makes you sick, you shouldn’t swim after you eat, or if cracking your knuckles makes them bigger. News you can use! Sick!

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In this episode, we're joined by Ashley Spencer, author of Disney High: The Untold Story of the Rise and Fall of Disney Channel’s Tween Empire. She shares her four-year journey researching Disney becoming the choice tween TV channel, and shares details from her interviews with former executives and cast/crew members, like the infamous Hilary Duff and LaLaine fallout or how the Zac/Vanessa High School Musical romance came to be IRL. We explore Disney's internal culture and show development, the role of pop music in Disney Channel's success (Samantha Mumba!), and get all the tea from our favorite 90s and 2000s shows and DCOMs. And last but not least, we can’t help but touch on how things have changed since our Zoog Disney days—from modern media consumption patterns, the implications of binge-watching, and the loss of monoculture. And don’t forget to check out Ashley’s book below! Enjoy. 

Read Disney High by Ashley Spencer: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250283450/disneyhigh 

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This week, inspired by the nostalgic TV masterpiece (excl. reboot) on Lifetime, Unsolved Mysteries, Kate introduces a (maybe?) new series she’s testing called “Influencer Unsolved Mysteries,” where she wants to deep dive into niche influencer lore, specifically times when fans/followers have been left with unanswered questions or presented with mysterious explanations for something that wouldn’t usually be our business, but they told us about it first and it’s their literal business.

The first episode of IUM discusses Seth and Jenna Wright, Ballerina Farm relatives who were formerly known as @whiteshantyathome, and their home construction project that grew their social media following in 2019-2020 due to sharing the process of building an unusual but grand English manor-style home made entirely of limestone by hand in Utah. They appeared to pour their hearts and souls into creating their “little piece of England” on a homestead in Utah, where they planned to raise their seven homeschooled kids (and Scottish Highland cows that matched their aesthetic). But one night in August 2020, everything they worked for went up in flames in the blink of an eye, and the half-finished custom home they built themselves stone by stone was destroyed in a matter of minutes by a house fire. What happened? What details did we miss about that tragic night due to their not explaining more until they went private? Why did they nearly disappear from social media for the past four years? Why are they back now? Is it to share their latest renovation? Or because they became known for posting far-right conspiracy theories the last time they were active in the fall of 2020? Tune into this BTI5 deep dive to see what we can find.

If you like this series, call or text 775-HEY-BETH to nominate your next influencer mystery. No topic is too light or heavy, whether an active account abruptly went dark, a friendship had a falling out, or a normal-seeming person went from zero to zealot faster than you can say, “Do your research.” The goal isn’t to drag anybody, but to have a watering hole for those of us who were chronically online before it was a term and check in on the bloggers and influencers of yesteryear we obsessed over, how they relate to current issues, and revisit their stories through a comedic, critical, and [where warranted] compassionate lens.

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In this episode, Kate opens by talking about top-of-mind things for everyone, like P. Diddy’s indictment, Sabrina Carpenter’s album, and if she actually cut her own face-framing layers this weekend. Then she invites her friend, author, and beloved IG poet (@maryoliversdrunkcousin) Lyndsay Rush on the pod to talk about a variety of things, like Single-White-Femaling each other’s lives and careers, e.g. having babies within a day of each other and books come out the same year with the same publisher. They discuss some LOL and heartfelt challenges about new motherhood, like the shift from infant to toddler, Lyndsay’s tips for meeting mom friends, and Kate’s formal apology to the wine mom community. They then dive into topics related to Lyndsay’s new book of poems, ‘A Bit Much,” and meander through topics like snacks, nostalgia, quirky inventions, and childhood hobbies (among other topics) and end with us offering up some options for Taylor Swift-related food and drink wordplay for your next themed party. Enjoy!

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Kate recaps the new Hulu series, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Will MomTok survive this episode??!

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In the season 1 finale, Kate decides she should have another season after over 6 years of not realizing she was still technically in season one of Be There in Five, then delves into her candid experience with motherhood she’s promised the main feed for the last year. Enjoy a follow-up from Childless Mill, some cheesy mom thoughts about cuteness aggression & having no chill, practical tips about L&D, surviving months 1-3, and feeling surprised by her social identity, among many other discussions inside the vast world of motherhood. Join her to debunk some of her prior misconceptions and confirm plenty of former doomsday perceptions, with heartfelt personal anecdotes aplenty. After this episode, Kate’s taking a hiatus until September, so if you want more bonus content & weekly BTIF episodes, go to patreon.com/bethereinfive. Join for a year for 10% off or join for a day, she’s not picky. Enjoy!

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This week, Kate explores the Ballerina Farm article heard ‘round the World Wide Web and reacts to the Times UK profile of homesteaders Hannah Neeleman and her husband Daniel, who run a picturesque farm in Utah with their eight children. Kate high-level examines Neeleman’s portrayal of farm life, the influence of their Mormon faith on gender roles, how that lack of context likely made the article more inflammatory to a secular audience, and discusses the complexities of claimed empowerment in our choices when they’re from a finite set of options. She also goes on a gratuitous Juilliard tangent (the Troy Bolton of it all), but not before a predictable plea to her audience to not marry someone after three weeks and a rant about bearing children being left up to God's will. Kate also touches on her confusion about the label of “trad wife,” wonders if she is one while her son is on her lap while she records, and attempts to explore the nuances of active versus passive harm when promoting a certain traditional (or regressive) lifestyle on the internet. Enjoy!

https://www.thetimes.com/magazines/the-sunday-times-magazine/article/meet-the-queen-of-the-trad-wives-and-her-eight-children-plfr50cgk

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