- 48 minutes 11 secondsThe Atmosphere Your Marriage Is BuildingWhat Your Kids Are Actually Learning
About This Episode Jennifer Pepito's daughter told her the thing that actually hurt growing up wasn't the hard years in Mexico, the off-grid living, or any of their circumstances. It was watching her parents. That answer forced Jennifer to look honestly at what her fear, her complaining, and her disconnection from her husband were really building inside her home. In this episode, Jennifer — married 36 years, homeschooling mom of seven, and author of The Inspired Homeschool — walks through what changed, what she wished she'd done differently, and why the atmosphere of a marriage is the single most powerful curriculum a home can offer.
About Jennifer Pepito Jennifer Pepito is a homeschooling mother of seven, now 30 years into educating her children at home, and the author of The Inspired Homeschool. She creates life-giving curriculum through The Peaceful Press and hosts the Restoration Home Podcast, where she encourages mothers toward joy-filled, virtue-centered homes. Jennifer and her husband have been married 36 years and are now grandparents. Her work draws on neuroscience, Scripture, and personal experience to help mothers build homes rooted in peace rather than fear. The Inspired Homeschool The Peaceful Press Podcast: Restoration Home Podcast
In This Episode 00:52 — Jennifer's story — Married 36 years, homeschooling for 30, seven children — Jennifer gives a quick snapshot of who she is and what drives her work encouraging mothers. 04:14 — The marriage conference that changed everything — Jennifer shares how Love After Marriage was the first time she recognized she was drawing emotional fulfillment from her children instead of God, and the first time she saw how her childhood wounds were shaping her behavior as a wife. 06:02 — When a loving home can still feel unsafe — Even when Jennifer poured herself into her kids, unresolved fear and marital conflict were creating an atmosphere that made her children feel like the problem. Her oldest daughter's honest words years later confirmed it. 07:37 — Why community changes people — Aaron and Jennifer talk about the science behind co-regulation, why talking with empathetic people accelerates healing, and what that means for the conference Aaron and Jennifer are praying about. 09:01 — When science points back to God — A conversation about why honest science and Scripture keep landing in the same place — and what that means for the way we're designed to do life together. 11:37 — What the public school system was actually built to do — Jennifer breaks down the origins of American public education, why conformity was the goal, and why Christian homeschool families keep measuring their children against a failed and counter-biblical standard. 14:13 — You don't have to have it all figured out — The encouragement homeschool moms who feel unqualified need to hear: you become a learner with your child, and curiosity is more powerful than any curriculum. 17:41 — Reading, writing, and arithmetic as the real foundation — Aaron and Jennifer agree: if children master the basics and learn how to learn, they can teach themselves anything. The educated men and women of history prove it. 18:18 — Why reading great books builds character — The imagination to sacrifice, to lead, to love others well — it has to be cultivated. Jennifer explains why the books children read either build or starve that vision. 23:03 — The missionary season that stressed everything — Moving to Mexico near Tijuana, building a house off-grid, five kids, no cell service, no community. Jennifer walks through how the circumstances didn't break her kids — but her response to the circumstances did. 25:55 — What complaining actually does to a husband — One of the most direct and practical moments in the episode. Jennifer explains the cycle she got stuck in and what she would tell a young mom today. 29:09 — The husband's side of the complaint cycle — Aaron shares how hard it is to hear a wife's struggle without internalizing it as failure, and what it takes to find security in Christ before you can respond well. 32:14 — What changed and what bore fruit — Jennifer walks through the practical shifts — less fighting in front of the kids, learning to take negative thoughts captive, cultivating thankfulness in the hardest seasons. 35:22 — Philippians 4:6–7 and the power of thanksgiving — Aaron unpacks why coming to God with thanksgiving isn't just a nice idea — it's the mechanism by which the peace of God guards the heart and mind. 41:07 — Recognizing the enemy's voice — Jennifer ties together the whole episode: the lies that come to us are the same pattern from Genesis forward. The question is always whether we'll agree with them or take them captive. 41:40 — Encouragement for anyone considering homeschool — Jennifer closes with a direct word for families on the fence: it's not as hard as you think, history backs you up, and if God is calling you to it, He will equip you.
Episode Resources The Inspired Homeschool by Jennifer Pepito The Peaceful Press — Jennifer's homeschool curriculum Restoration Home Podcast — hosted by Jennifer Pepito Mothering by the Book by Jennifer Pepito
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25 August 2026, 9:00 am - 50 minutes 14 secondsThe Real Problem Isn't Communication with Genee FrancisA licensed therapist on the real reason couples drift — and what to do about it
What if the disconnection you feel in your marriage isn't really a communication problem — but an intimacy problem? That's the reframe Dr. Genee Francis brought to this conversation, and it's one every couple needs to hear. Genee is a licensed therapist, holds a doctorate, and serves as Assistant Director of Content and Programming for Winshape Marriage. She's been married 18 years and has walked her own marriage through grief, legal battles, health crises, and the slow work of building real community — and she shares all of it here.
About Dr. Genee Francis Dr. Genee Francis is a licensed therapist and the Assistant Director of Content and Programming for Winshape Marriage, a ministry of the Winshape Foundation. She has been working with couples, individuals, and families since 2008 and holds a doctorate degree completed during her marriage while raising two boys. Married 18 years to her husband Rashad, the two also lead their own marriage events and retreats to create community for couples in their area.
In This Episode 3:32 — A grandmother's words that stuck — A seed that shaped an entire career in counseling 5:28 — Growing up between two pictures of marriage — With divorced parents and grandparents married over 70 years, Genee developed a deep curiosity about what makes marriages survive — and it never left her 7:59 — Covenant as the deciding factor — Why the marriages that make it aren't the ones with fewer problems, but the ones committed first to God and then to doing the work together 11:02 — Navigating grief, legal battles, and a new baby at the same time — Within their first five years, Genee and Rashad walked through her father-in-law's terminal illness, a two-year estate battle, and the birth of their first child — and what carried them through 16:30 — Prayer as a window into your spouse — When her husband couldn't find words for his grief, their shared prayer life gave Genee eyes into what he was actually feeling and thinking 19:01 — A second unexpected crisis — After two pregnancies, Genee learned she needed a full hip replacement — a blindside for someone who had jogged five days a week for her entire adult life 22:10 — Nine years of couples' Bible study — Why being embedded in a community of couples for nearly a decade was one of the most formative things for their marriage, and what they lost when they relocated 28:27 — Why infertility is a rising theme — One of the most common struggles Genee sees at Winshape retreats, and what she believes is driving it 38:03 — It's not a communication problem — it's an intimacy problem — The reframe Genee offers couples who say they "can't talk": spiritual, emotional, and recreational intimacy are all lacking, and naming that honestly is the first step forward 40:42 — The power of naming things out loud — Why confession — saying "I feel disconnected from you" — is the most underused first step couples have available to them 43:25 — What actually feeds your marriage in community — Why Genee stayed committed to a Bible study that wasn't always speaking directly to her, and what it gave her husband that came back into their marriage 46:05 — A reason for hope — Divorce rates are slowly declining, and marriage is trending — what Genee sees as genuinely encouraging about where couples are headed
Resources from This Episode Winshape Foundation Winshape Marriage retreats — North Georgia, 27,000-acre retreat location, all-inclusive, all stages of marriage
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11 August 2026, 12:00 pm - 54 minutes 49 secondsFaithful in the Mundane with Emma Waters
What if you've been believing a lie about children without ever knowing it? In today's conversation on the Marriage After God podcast. Aaron sits down with Emma Waters — wife, mom, policy analyst, and author of Lead Like Jael: Seven Timeless Principles for Today's Women of Faith — to talk about the fear of motherhood that nearly cost her her marriage, why the trad wife movement and girl boss feminism are more alike than they seem, what a 3,000-year-old tent peg reveals about a woman's role in marriage, and how to stop treating your home like a waiting room for your real life.
About Emma Waters Emma Waters is a policy analyst for the Heritage Foundation, where she focuses on infertility, reproductive technology, and family structure from a life-affirming perspective. She writes for First Things and World magazine on issues of family, femininity, and what it means to be human in an age of rapid technological change. Emma is married to Jack Waters, who is pursuing ordination in the Anglican Church of North America, and together they have two daughters with a third on the way. She is also the author of Lead Like Jael: Seven Timeless Principles for Today's Women of Faith. Website & Podcast: rethinkingfertility.com Book: Lead Like Jael — available wherever books are sold
In This Episode The fear that almost ended her relationship — She broke up with her now-husband over one question: do you want kids? "Either you're right, or the Bible's right" — The mentor's challenge that changed everything Every negative thing about children in the Bible belongs to the villains Trad wife and girl boss: more alike than they look Jael's tent peg — She could only do what she did because she'd been faithful in the mundane The myth of the morally neutral public square Adam and Eve's names as a marriage blueprint The enemy has always targeted the home — The first attack didn't happen on a battlefield. It happened in the Garden. Seasons of faithfulness — Why both "my life is over" and "it's only a few years" get it wrong
Resources from This Episode Book: Lead Like Jael: Seven Timeless Principles for Today's Women of Faith by Emma Waters — available wherever books are sold Website, Podcast & Substack: rethinkingfertility.com Book referenced: The Glory of Man by Peter Leithart Book referenced: The Three Worlds Framework by Aaron Renn (Zondervan) If this conversation encouraged you, please share it with a couple you love, and subscribe wherever you listen. Follow us on Instagram: Marriage After God · Unveiled Wife · Husband Revolution Want to go deeper? Become a patron and help us keep creating resources for marriages that pursue God together. Smith Family Resources, Inc © 2026
4 August 2026, 9:00 am - 36 minutes 58 seconds30 Marriage Devotional: How to Have a Marriage After God
30 Marriage Devotional: How to Have a Marriage After God
About This Episode
What does it actually mean to have a marriage after God? In our final episode of this podcast series, we share a pivotal moment that transformed our marriage and discuss what it actually means to have a Marriage After God.
In This Episode
- Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane: what Aaron heard God ask him through Matthew 26, and how it broke him
- Why Christ's "not my will, but yours" is the template for every marriage
- How Unveiled Wife and Husband Revolution were born out of sharing the journey, not having it figured out
- Why confession and transparency in community dissolves the power that darkness has over a marriage
- The difference between pretending to have a perfect marriage and proclaiming the actual message of the gospel
- What a marriage after God looks like — not perfection, but perseverance, reconciliation, and hopefulness
- Why sanctification is not a one-time transformation but a lifelong pursuit
This Week's Call to Action
Write a love letter to your spouse. Not a quick note — a real one. Name what you've endured together. Name what you see in them. Share where you believe God is taking your marriage. If you're not sure where to start, ask the Holy Spirit to show you what your spouse needs to hear from you.
Resources from This Episode
- Watch this devotional series from the beginning and get your copies of Husband After God and Wife After God
- Marriage After God
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29 July 2026, 9:00 am - 1 hour 1 minuteGlimpses of God with Dan and Peggy Rupple
Forty-eight years to the same woman — in Hollywood? Dan and Peggy Rupple have been married 48 years while working inside one of the most corrosive industries on the planet. In today's episode, Aaron sits down with them to talk about God's move in Hollywood, navigating media with your kids, and the non-negotiables that held their marriage together through it all.
About Dan & Peggy Rupple
Dan and Peggy Rupple are the founders of Master Media International, a ministry serving as a Christian presence inside the mainstream entertainment industry. Dan spent over 50 years in Hollywood — from nearly being cast in SNL's original lineup, to The Price Is Right, to Late Show with David Letterman. Peggy has walked alongside him through every chapter. Dan's new book, Glimpses: Viewing the Media Through the Lens of Faith, is available now at mastermedia.com.
In This Episode
- How Dan and Peggy met — and why they were married within a year
- Nearly landing Saturday Night Live before Dan came to Christ
- Why Dan is more excited about God's move in Hollywood than ever before
- Why Hollywood is in crisis — and what's filling the gap
- What the top 25 box office films of all time have in common
- Be a Daniel: excellence and integrity as a Christian in the industry
- The non-negotiables that protected their marriage
- How to navigate movies and media with your kids
- AI and the danger of losing imagination
- And more
Resources
- Book: Glimpses: Viewing the Media Through the Lens of Faith — mastermedia.com
- Master Media International — mastermedia.com
- WindRider Film Forum — windrider.org
- Act One Masters Class in screenwriting and producing — mastermedia.com
- Plugged In (movie reviews for parents) — pluggedin.com
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28 July 2026, 9:00 am - 1 hour 3 minutesRaising Courageous Kids in Unprecedented Times w/ Isaac and Angie Tolpin
Could you let your own child tell you that you failed them — and not get defensive?
In today’s episode, Aaron sits down with Isaac and Angie Tolpin — good friends, parents of nine, grandparents of nearly six — on the launch day of their new book, Courageous Parenting: Biblical Parenting in Unprecedented Times. They get into what the word "Christian" actually means anymore, why so many kids are walking away from the church by 18, raising children in an AI world, and why your child's faith might be purer and further along than your own.
About Isaac & Angie Tolpin
Isaac and Angie Tolpin are the hosts of the Courageous Parenting Podcast and the founders of Be Courageous Ministry, a discipleship-focused ministry built around equipping Christian parents to raise kids rooted in the Word of God. Parents of nine children and grandparents of six (and counting), they recently planted a church in Horseshoe Bend, Idaho and have just released their newest book, Courageous Parenting: Biblical Parenting in Unprecedented Times.
- Website: becourageousministry.org
- Book on Amazon: Courageous Parenting
- Podcast: Courageous Parenting Podcast (available wherever you listen)
In This Episode
- What "Christian" actually means today — Angie shares why the label has lost much of its weight, and why fruit — not title — is the real indicator of someone following Christ
- The authentic community crisis — Why so many believers can't verbalize what's missing, and how the Tolpins' church model is answering a hunger people didn't know they had
- Keeping families together in worship — The fruit that comes when children are present for sermons, communion, and real church life rather than separated into programs
- Why kids are leaving the church — The connection between low expectations, age-segregated environments, and the statistic that two-thirds of kids walk away from faith by 18
- Your child might be ahead of you spiritually — Jesus said to have faith like theirs; what it looks like to actually believe that and parent from it
- Humility as a parenting strategy — Why apologizing to your children isn't weakness, and how Angie's own discipline from God before a conference became the most powerful message she gave
- Raising kids in the age of AI — The double-edged sword of AI, why homeschooling parents can't afford to ignore it, and how to use it to accelerate creativity rather than kill it
- Building creative confidence before the screen — Why it matters that kids know their own gifts before they ever delegate to AI
- The one thing that actually prepares your kids — Grounding encouragement for overwhelmed parents who feel behind
Resources from This Episode
- Book: Courageous Parenting: Biblical Parenting in Unprecedented Times by Isaac & Angie Tolpin — available on Amazon (update with direct link)
- Ministry & Podcast: becourageousministry.org
- Podcast recommendation: The AI Daily Brief (Aaron's recommendation for parents wanting to get up to speed on AI)
- Previous book: Redeeming Childbirth by Angie Tolpin (2012)
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21 July 2026, 9:00 am - 56 minutes 32 secondsYour Marriage Can Heal — Even If You're the Only One Working On It with Belah Rose
What if you could completely transform your marriage — even if your spouse never participates? Belah Rose, founder of Delight Your Marriage, has coached over 500 couples and has seen it happen hundreds of times. This week on the Marriage After God podcast, we sat down with Belah to talk about the real root of marital breakdown, what it actually looks like for a husband or wife to take the lead in healing, and the apology framework that gets the rot out of the foundation. Belah also shares her own story — a failed first marriage, walking away from God, and how the Lord used a second chance to reshape everything she now teaches.
Belah Rose is the founder of Delight Your Marriage, a faith-centered coaching organization that has served over 500 couples. She started with a book in 2014, launched the Delight Your Marriage podcast in 2015, and has since built out full coaching programs for men and women — including Masculinity Reclaimed for husbands and a graduate community for ongoing growth. Belah coaches men and women separately, and the results her clients experience often surprise the unparticipating spouse most.
In This Episode
- Belah's testimony — A first marriage that ended in divorce, anger at God, and the journey back to faith through a husband who showed her what it meant to feel truly known and safe
- Why one spouse doing the work is enough — How Belah's own story convinced her that even a single willing partner can redirect a marriage toward healing
- The Delight Your Marriage framework — Men need to feel respected, admired, and wholeheartedly intimate; wives need to feel safe, known, and wholeheartedly cherished — and the failure to understand this difference is where most couples quietly destroy each other
- The 1–10 marriage health scale — Why the advice that works at a 9 can backfire at a 2, and how to match your level of emotional openness to where your marriage actually is
- Pride as the chief enemy — Why self-righteousness is the log we carry into every conflict, and why repentance — not persuasion — is the first move
- The SHORE apology framework — Specific, Humble, Own, Repair, Exonerate: a step-by-step framework for apologies that actually shore up the foundation instead of papering over it
Resources from This Episode
- Delight Your Marriage — Belah's coaching programs, podcast, and free clarity call (mention Marriage After God for a listener discount)
- DYMarriage.com — Shorter URL for the same site
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14 July 2026, 9:00 am - 54 minutes 39 seconds29 Marriage Devotional Unveiled: The Freedom to Be Fully Known
What does it actually mean to be unveiled — fully known, fully seen, and no longer hiding — before God and before your spouse? In week 29 of their 30-week Marriage After God series, Aaron and Jennifer Smith dig into the victory believers have in Christ and what it looks like to walk in that freedom inside a marriage. Drawing from Ephesians 2, Romans 8, and the moment the temple veil was torn in two, they unpack how the cross removes the dividing wall between us and God — and how that same freedom can transform the way spouses show up for each other.
In This Episode
— The victory believers have in Christ, and why it can be hard to actually feel like a "conqueror"
— Ephesians 2:14–18 — how Christ breaks down the dividing wall and brings peace
— Romans 8:1–4 — no condemnation, and what it means that Christ fulfilled the law in us
— The torn veil in Matthew 27:50–51 and what it reveals about access to God
— A personal story about a bride's veil, and what it pictures about intimacy and unveiling
— How sanctification plays out day to day — including the "washing of feet" picture from the Last Supper
— Galatians 5:16–17 and what it practically looks like to walk in the Spirit versus the flesh
— 1 Corinthians 10:13 and the "way of escape" from temptation
— Real-life pictures of walking in victory within marriage — parenting moments, disrespect, hurtful words, and forgiveness
— Proverbs 24:16 and Peter walking on the water as pictures of falling and getting back up
— Discussion questions: what keeps you from being unveiled, and one step you can take to be unveiled with God and your spouse
— This week's call to action: memorizing 2 Corinthians 3:16–18 and Romans 6:6
Bible Verses Mentioned:
- Ephesians 2:14–18
- Romans 8:1–4
- Matthew 27:50–51
- Galatians 5:16–17
- 1 Corinthians 10:13
- Proverbs 24:16
- Romans 6:6
- 2 Corinthians 3:16–18
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8 July 2026, 9:00 am - 1 hour 3 minutesCultivating the Fruit of the Spirit in Marriage with Richard & Kelly Kannwischer
This week on the Marriage After God podcast: Richard Kannwischer has spent years thinking about what's quietly cultivating our families, whether we notice it or not, and it reframed how he sees his own marriage and his kids' formation. He and his wife Kelly join us to talk about the rage of the age creeping into our homes, why the fruit of the Spirit is one fruit and not nine, and the simple daily practice Richard says will train real joy into a marriage faster than anything else.
Richard is the author of Cultivate: How God Grows the Fruit of the Spirit Within Us, senior pastor of Peachtree Presbyterian Church in Atlanta, has been married to Kelly for 27 years, and together they lead Wonderfully Made Ministry, a day program creating community and vocational opportunity for adults with intellectual disabilities. Connect with Richard and get a free study guide PDF at richardkannwischer.com.
In This Episode
- One fruit, not nine — Richard explains why the fruit of the Spirit isn't a menu to pick and choose from, and what that means for how we're actually meant to grow.
- Holy instead of happy — The question that reframes marriage: what if it was designed to make us like Christ, not just make us comfortable?
- Training real joy — The one-month Psalms practice Richard learned from Dallas Willard for building joy that doesn't depend on your circumstances.
- Gentleness in the age of outrage — Why Richard says gentleness is the fruit he feels most convicted about right now, and what social media is training our kids toward instead.
Resources from This Episode
- Cultivate: How God Grows the Fruit of the Spirit Within Us
- Free study guide PDF and more from Richard at richardkannwischer.com
- Wonderfully Made Ministry — wonderfullymadecommunity.org
- Marriage After God devotionals, prayer books, and more — shop.marriageaftergod.com
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7 July 2026, 9:00 am - 48 minutes 12 secondsForgiveness Doesn't Wait for an Apology — with Leann Murphy
What carries a marriage through infidelity, a cancer diagnosis, and 38 years of ordinary days in between? Leann Murphy has lived all three with her husband Mike, and she joins us to talk about what actually held their marriage together when the world told her to walk away. Our conversation is honest about the hardest season of her marriage, generous with the forgiveness she found on the other side of it, and full of the wisdom she later turned into letters for her own sons.
Author of Becoming a Husband: 21 Days of Preparation for a Son of God and Becoming a Wife: 21 Days of Preparation for a Daughter of God, published through Focus on the Family. Married to Mike for almost 38 years, mother of two sons, and grandmother to three grandsons, Leann and Mike live in central Louisiana. Connect with Leann and read more of her writing at karenleannmurphy.com.
In This Episode
- A covenant, not a contract — Leann explains why believing her marriage was a covenant with God, not just a promise to Mike, is the reason she and Mike are still married at 38 years.
- The season they almost didn't survive — Around year fifteen, infidelity nearly ended their marriage, and most of the counsel pointed toward separating. Leann gets honest about how they stayed.
- Forgiveness that doesn't wait for repentance — A clear, biblical case for why forgiveness has to come before reconciliation — and why withholding it puts us above Christ.
- Practical, biblical guidance for parents and newlyweds on shifting from parental authority to mentorship without losing the relationship.
Resources from This Episode
- Becoming a Husband: 21 Days of Preparation for a Son of God by Karen Leann Murphy — Focus on the Family | Amazon
- Becoming a Wife: 21 Days of Preparation for a Daughter of God by Karen Leann Murphy — Focus on the Family | Amazon
- More from Leann at karenleannmurphy.com
- Marriage After God devotionals, prayer books, and more — shop.marriageaftergod.com
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30 June 2026, 9:00 am - 52 minutes 27 secondsThe One Thing You Can Actually Be the Greatest At — with Pastor Mark Moore
About This Episode
What if there's only one thing in your entire life you could be the greatest at — and you've been neglecting it? Pastor Mark Moore has been married 40 years, pastors a giga church with 18 campuses in Phoenix, and has spent decades studying Scripture. His answer to that question is one of the most freeing things you'll hear. This conversation is honest, practical, and grounded in the Word.
Meet Pastor Mark Moore
Teaching Pastor at Christ's Church of the Valley in Phoenix, AZ — author of Wisdom 52, Quest 52, and Core 52, and former Bible college professor with 22 years in the classroom. Connect with Mark and find teaching videos for every chapter of his books at markmoore.org — and find him on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube under his name.
In This Episode
- Breaking generational cycles — Mark shares how he discovered patterns of brokenness in his family he didn't even know he'd inherited, and why changing that pattern is the greatest achievement of his life.
- The thing that kept their marriage together — After 40 years, it wasn't what you might expect. Mark gets honest about the blind spots he carried for decades and what finally brought them to light.
- Social media as a modern idol — Practical, no-nonsense rules for protecting your marriage and your kids from the damage of devices and the algorithms designed to exploit you.
- The silent killer of great marriages — Proverbs has more to say about this than almost any other topic. Mark connects it directly to why so many promising marriages plateau or fall apart.
- Truth in a postmodern world — A brilliant illustration that reframes how we understand truth — not as a proposition, but as a Person.
Resources from This Episode
- Wisdom 52 by Mark Moore — wisdom52.org | available on Amazon
- Quest 52 and Core 52
- Teaching videos for every chapter at markmoore.org
- Marriage After God devotionals, prayer books, and more — shop.marriageaftergod.com
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