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In the early hours of 3/18/90, two thieves posing as police officers were admitted into the Gardner Museum in Boston. In 81 minutes they stole 13 pieces of artwork, among the paintings stripped from their frames were works by Vermeer, Degas, and Rembrandt
- 1 hour 8 minutesS3E22 - Eric Ulis's Hunt For the Stolen Artwork Continues
In this new episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Eric Ulis about his Gardner heist suspect Brian McDevitt. We revisit the history of McDevitt's connection to the heist before uncovering new information and new evidence that Eric is working on.
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31 March 2026, 4:00 am - 1 hour 9 minutesS3E21 - Geoffrey Kelly on Thirteen Perfect Fugitives
In this new episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with retired FBI special agent and author Geoffrey Kelly about his new book, Thirteen Perfect Fugitives, about the 1990 Gardner Museum heist in Boston, Massachusetts.
Geoff was head of the Gardner investigation for the FBI for many years and after his recent retirement he wrote this outstanding book.
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https://www.amazon.com/Thirteen-Perfect-Fugitives-Murder-Largest/dp/B0FDGTZJH9.
This interview was also recently published on Crawlspace and Missing.
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17 March 2026, 6:00 am - 38 minutes 2 secondsNew // Louvre Heist
In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak about the jewel heist at the Louvre in October of 2025.
This episode was researched by Kathleen Studer.
Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Louvre_robbery
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg7nrlkg0zxo
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/24/europe/louvre-heist-lift-maker-scli-intl
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/20/style/france-louvre-heist-worrying-escalation-intl-hnk
https://time.com/7326868/louvre-robbery-museum-crown-jewels/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9d6e2wv884o
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/20/style/louvre-heist-which-jewels-stolen-intl-hnk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Crown_Jewels
https://www.louvre.fr/en/explore/the-palace/sun-gold-and-diamonds
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgk0y97v0go
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/26/europe/louvre-robbery-france-arrests-intl
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4 November 2025, 7:38 pm - 1 hour 2 minutesBonus // The Million Dollar Car Detective
In this episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna welcome two new friends of the show to the conversation. Mr. Stayton Bonner & Mr. Joe Ford. Stayton wrote the book, The Million Dollar Car Detective and Joe Ford IS the Car Detective. The car in question is the stolen 1938 Talbot-Lago Teardrop, often described as the "most beautiful car in the world."
This episode was previously published on Crawlspace on August 31st, 2025.
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21 September 2025, 6:00 am - 49 minutes 51 secondsBonus // Ruby Red Handed
In this episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, executive producer and investigative journalist Maria Awes. Maria's production company, Committee Films, helmed the ABC News Studios doc, Ruby Red Handed: Stealing America's Most Famous Pair of Shoes. It's a wild and fascinating account of the theft and recovery of Judy Garland's ruby slippers from the classic movie, The Wizard of Oz.
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28 August 2025, 6:00 am - 1 hour 3 minutesS3E20 - New Gardner Suspect & More
In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Kerry Joyce AKA the Muddy River Fact Checker about his favorite suspect Rod Ramsay, was Abath involved and much more.
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27 July 2025, 5:00 am - 1 hour 4 minutesS3E19 - The 2025 Turbo Train
In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Turbo Paul Hendry aka Art Hostage. Turbo is a return guest, is no stranger to making shocking statements and this conversation is no different.
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2 July 2025, 5:00 am - 1 hour 6 minutesS3E18 - The Devil Wears Rothko w/ Barry Avrich
In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with author and filmmaker Barry Avrich about his new book The Devil Wears Rothko about an intense forgery scheme involving priceless art.
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24 June 2025, 7:00 am - 1 hourS3E17 - Any Day Now w/ Eric Aronson
In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with filmmaker Eric Aronson about his new movie, Any Day Now, based on the Gardner heist. We also speak about the publicity stunt that Eric and his team pulled in New York City this past winter in promotion of the movie.
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20 June 2025, 7:00 am - 1 hour 3 minutesCrawlspace Bonus - New DB Cooper Discoveries w/ Eric Ulis
In this episode of Crawlspace, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined again by Eric Ulis. Eric is an unwavering and tireless investigator who has made it a mission of his to discover the true identity of the legendary famous skyjacker, DB Cooper.
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10 June 2025, 7:00 am - 1 hour 20 minutesS3E16 - Suspect Brian McDevitt Updates w/ Eric Ulis
In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with Eric Ulis about the Gardner heist suspect Brian McDevitt. We discuss Brian's timeline and his girlfriend at the time of the heist (Stephanie Rabinowitz)'s diary from 1990 and much more.
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