• 27 minutes 55 seconds
    Can ChatGPT Be a Criminal Accomplice?

    People are asking artificial intelligence large language models how to do everything—even how to harm themselves and others. And while companies claim there are guardrails in place for those situations, we’ve already seen real-world instances of an LLM’s advice being used to plan a mass shooting.


    Guest: Mark Follman, national affairs editor at Mother Jones and author of “Trigger Points: Inside the Mission to Stop Mass Shootings in America.


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    Podcast production by Rob Gunther, Evan Campbell, Madeline Thames-Ducharme and Patrick Fort.


    Paige Osburn is the senior supervising producer of What Next and What Next TBD.

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    19 June 2026, 7:00 am
  • 30 minutes 13 seconds
    IPO to the Moon

    Is Elon Musk’s SpaceX leading humanity to Mars? Or is that just grandiose window-dressing for an A.I. company leading several other A.I. companies to IPOs? 


    Guest: Max Chafkin, reporter with Bloomberg Businessweek and cohost of the Everybody's Business podcast.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Madeline Ducharme, Patrick Fort, Rob Gunther and Paige Osburn. 

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    12 June 2026, 7:00 am
  • 26 minutes 3 seconds
    Gradu-AI-tion Day

    It’s an awkward time to have a Department of Education that seems so disinterested in, uh, education. It’s leaving teachers to grapple with how to integrate artificial intelligence into the classroom—if at all. 


    Guest: Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Madeline Ducharme, Patrick Fort, Rob Gunther and Paige Osburn.

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    5 June 2026, 7:00 am
  • 29 minutes 11 seconds
    Trump's Disney Shakedown

    How the Trump administration has tried to put pressure on Disney for opinions expressed by Jimmy Kimmel and the hosts of The View—and how the Mouse is fighting back.


    Guest: Anna M. Gomez, commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission since September 2023.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Madeline Ducharme, Patrick Fort, Rob Gunther and Paige Osburn.



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    29 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 34 minutes 22 seconds
    Can Patreon Build a Better Internet?

    The promise of an “internet for niche communities” and “the empowered independent creator” has been taking a beating as the web has become less open and increasingly dominated by a few platforms and players. But does it have to be that way?


    Guest: Jack Conte, CEO and cofounder of Patreon.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.

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    22 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 34 minutes 1 second
    TBD Tries…Roblox

    Under fire for what critics say is inadequate protection of its young user base, Roblox nevertheless remains incredibly popular. Are the company’s new ballyhooed protections up for the task of keeping kids safe? Or is that asking the wrong question entirely?


    Guests:

    Cecilia D'Anastasio, video game reporter for Bloomberg. 

    Mary Harris, host of the other What Next

    Stella Harris, daughter of Mary.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.

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    17 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 22 minutes 9 seconds
    Trump Visits the First World

    Between artificial intelligence, the Iran War, and the future of Taiwan, there’s a lot for the United States and China to hash out—not least of which being the pecking order.


    Guest: Josh Chin, senior global correspondent for the Wall Street Journal.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.



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    15 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 31 minutes 44 seconds
    Does Anyone Like A.I.?

    Everyone would probably hate A.I. less if we could just see some upside to it. But despite all the investment—into the companies, into infrastructure like data centers, so much into marketing—it’s widely known: artificial intelligence sucks.


    Guest: Nilay Patel, co-founder and editor in chief of The Verge. 


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.

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    10 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 21 minutes
    Buy Your Flights Now

    The not-always-beloved-but-indisputably-useful Spirit Airlines has given up the ghost. What does this mean for the airline industry and your summer travel plans? 


    Guest: Will Guisbond, senior reporter for The Air Current.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.

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    8 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 23 minutes 13 seconds
    Big Tech’s Climate Fight…on Pause?

    In the early 2020s, Microsoft committed to buying 75 million tons of carbon removal—somewhere between 70 and 90 percent of the entire carbon removal market. But the company just announced it was putting that ambition on pause.. 


    Guest: Robinson Meyer, founding executive editor of Heatmap News.


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.

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    3 May 2026, 7:00 am
  • 24 minutes 8 seconds
    Musk v. Altman

    This week marks the beginning of the jury trial between Elon Musk and Sam Altman. There are massive implications for the A.I. industry here, but at the end of the day, the question might just boil down to - who do people dislike more?


    Guest: Gerrit De Vynck, tech reporter at the Washington Post


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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.

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    1 May 2026, 7:00 am
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