- 27 minutes 55 secondsCan ChatGPT Be a Criminal Accomplice?
People are asking artificial intelligence large language models how to do everything—even how to harm themselves and others. And while companies claim there are guardrails in place for those situations, we’ve already seen real-world instances of an LLM’s advice being used to plan a mass shooting.
Guest: Mark Follman, national affairs editor at Mother Jones and author of “Trigger Points: Inside the Mission to Stop Mass Shootings in America.”
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19 June 2026, 7:00 am - 30 minutes 13 secondsIPO to the Moon
Is Elon Musk’s SpaceX leading humanity to Mars? Or is that just grandiose window-dressing for an A.I. company leading several other A.I. companies to IPOs?
Guest: Max Chafkin, reporter with Bloomberg Businessweek and cohost of the Everybody's Business podcast.
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Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Madeline Ducharme, Patrick Fort, Rob Gunther and Paige Osburn.
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12 June 2026, 7:00 am - 26 minutes 3 secondsGradu-AI-tion Day
It’s an awkward time to have a Department of Education that seems so disinterested in, uh, education. It’s leaving teachers to grapple with how to integrate artificial intelligence into the classroom—if at all.
Guest: Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers.
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5 June 2026, 7:00 am - 29 minutes 11 secondsTrump's Disney Shakedown
How the Trump administration has tried to put pressure on Disney for opinions expressed by Jimmy Kimmel and the hosts of The View—and how the Mouse is fighting back.
Guest: Anna M. Gomez, commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission since September 2023.
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29 May 2026, 7:00 am - 34 minutes 22 secondsCan Patreon Build a Better Internet?
The promise of an “internet for niche communities” and “the empowered independent creator” has been taking a beating as the web has become less open and increasingly dominated by a few platforms and players. But does it have to be that way?
Guest: Jack Conte, CEO and cofounder of Patreon.
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22 May 2026, 7:00 am - 34 minutes 1 secondTBD Tries…Roblox
Under fire for what critics say is inadequate protection of its young user base, Roblox nevertheless remains incredibly popular. Are the company’s new ballyhooed protections up for the task of keeping kids safe? Or is that asking the wrong question entirely?
Guests:
Cecilia D'Anastasio, video game reporter for Bloomberg.
Mary Harris, host of the other What Next
Stella Harris, daughter of Mary.
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17 May 2026, 7:00 am - 22 minutes 9 secondsTrump Visits the First World
Between artificial intelligence, the Iran War, and the future of Taiwan, there’s a lot for the United States and China to hash out—not least of which being the pecking order.
Guest: Josh Chin, senior global correspondent for the Wall Street Journal.
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15 May 2026, 7:00 am - 31 minutes 44 secondsDoes Anyone Like A.I.?
Everyone would probably hate A.I. less if we could just see some upside to it. But despite all the investment—into the companies, into infrastructure like data centers, so much into marketing—it’s widely known: artificial intelligence sucks.
Guest: Nilay Patel, co-founder and editor in chief of The Verge.
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10 May 2026, 7:00 am - 21 minutesBuy Your Flights Now
The not-always-beloved-but-indisputably-useful Spirit Airlines has given up the ghost. What does this mean for the airline industry and your summer travel plans?
Guest: Will Guisbond, senior reporter for The Air Current.
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8 May 2026, 7:00 am - 23 minutes 13 secondsBig Tech’s Climate Fight…on Pause?
In the early 2020s, Microsoft committed to buying 75 million tons of carbon removal—somewhere between 70 and 90 percent of the entire carbon removal market. But the company just announced it was putting that ambition on pause..
Guest: Robinson Meyer, founding executive editor of Heatmap News.
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3 May 2026, 7:00 am - 24 minutes 8 secondsMusk v. Altman
This week marks the beginning of the jury trial between Elon Musk and Sam Altman. There are massive implications for the A.I. industry here, but at the end of the day, the question might just boil down to - who do people dislike more?
Guest: Gerrit De Vynck, tech reporter at the Washington Post
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