- 33 minutes 52 secondsWhat Community Members Get Wrong About School Construction with Dr. George Hummer
Kevin Stoller sits down with Dr. George Hummer, Superintendent of Frederick County Public Schools, to explore his journey from special education aide to school district leader, and the district's ongoing effort to build its fourth high school. Dr. Hummer shares how his mother's career as a special education teacher and his own experience working with students with disabilities shaped his empathy-driven leadership style. The conversation dives deep into the mechanics of planning new school construction — including the critical difference between "design capacity" and "program capacity," how Frederick County builds community trust through transparent data, and why involving every stakeholder voice (parents, teachers, students, county officials) is essential to a successful bond and building process. Dr. Hummer also reflects on team-building, situational leadership drawn from his coaching background, and why investing in students must remain the non-negotiable priority behind every facilities decision.
Takeaways:
- Program capacity vs. design capacity — A room's legal occupancy limit isn't the same as how many students it can actually serve well; specialized programs (special ed, ELL, CTE, kindergarten) mean real capacity is often much lower than code allows.
- Run schools at 85–90% capacity, not 100% — Like redlining a car engine, operating school buildings at full capacity year-round accelerates wear and leaves no room for enrollment shifts or new programs.
- There's no such thing as too many voices — Successful school construction requires input from county officials, principals, teachers, parents, and even students — genuine inclusion builds long-term community trust.
- Seek out your critics, not just your supporters — Dr. Hummer's willingness to sit down with a skeptical taxpayer and address misinformation directly turned an opponent into an advocate for the new high school.
- Situational leadership matters — Knowing when to encourage versus when to push for improvement (borrowed from his coaching background) is key to building strong, resilient teams.
About Dr. George Hummer:
Dr. George C. Hummer began serving as Frederick County's Superintendent of Schools on January 30, 2023. He is a native of New Jersey who moved to Virginia in 1994. He graduated from Chancellor High School in Fredericksburg and received a bachelor of arts degree from Radford University in 2005. Dr. Hummer also holds a master's degree in educational leadership and special education from the University of Mary Washington as well as a doctorate in educational leadership from Virginia Commonwealth University.
Dr. Hummer credits his mother, who was a lifelong special education teacher, with inspiring him to pursue a career in education. He began his career as a special education teacher, athletic director, and football and basketball coach at Battlefield Middle School in Fredericksburg. After serving in those roles from 2005 to 2012, Dr. Hummer was named assistant principal at Rodney Thompson Middle School in Stafford and served in that capacity for three years.
In 2015, Dr. Hummer was named the Supervisor of Student Services and Special Education for Stafford County Public Schools. Four years later, he became Stafford County Public Schools' Executive Director of Student Services and Special Education. In 2022, he was named that school division's Chief Student Support Services Officer.
As a teacher, Dr. Hummer was recognized with a Teacher of the Year Award and for improving the performance of his students. As a central office administrator, Dr. Hummer has spent countless hours supporting students, families and staff while working to develop better procedures to help bridge the achievement gap for all students.
In 2021, the Virginia Council of Administrators of Special Education recognized Dr. Hummer with the Mary Lou Wall Award for Early Special Education Leadership. The award recognizes individuals who are in their first three years of leading a school division's special education services and exemplify five values: (1) Heart- the passion to serve, nurture and care; (2) Leadership by example; (3) Honesty; (4) Creative thinking; and (5) Collaboration.
From 2018 to 2023, Dr. Hummer served as an adjunct professor of educational leadership and education at the University of Mary Washington. He has also been a featured speaker at several state meetings for the Virginia Department of Education.
Dr. Hummer is proud to remain actively engaged in the Frederick County and Northern Shenandoah Valley communities. He currently serves on the boards of the Valley Health Foundation, United Way of Northern Shenandoah Valley, Grafton School Foundation, and Frederick County Education Foundation. He is also an active member of the Rotary Club of Frederick County. Through these meaningful partnerships, Dr. Hummer enthusiastically supportsefforts that strengthen our students, education, health, opportunity, and overall community well-being throughout the region.
Dr. Hummer, his wife, Charnell, and his step-daughter, Madison, live in Frederick County.
Episode 354 of the Better Learning Podcast
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30 September 2026, 4:38 am - 47 minutes 50 secondsLeading Districts with Emotional Intelligence with Dr. Adam Swinyard
Dr. Adam Swinyard, Superintendent of Spokane Public Schools and 2023 Washington Superintendent of the Year, joins the Jeff Kubiak to discuss leading one of Washington's largest districts through a rapidly shifting information and mental health landscape. Adam shares how Spokane centers everything on relationships, why transparency and "doors and windows" communication have replaced the old top-down model, and how the district's Engage in Real Life initiative and revised cell phone policy are tackling the youth mental health crisis. He also reflects candidly on lessons learned since becoming superintendent — from the power of emotional intelligence in hiring to rethinking public schools' role in a world where they no longer hold a monopoly on enrollment.
Takeaways:
- Relationships over hierarchy — Spokane's culture is built on entering every interaction with love, kindness, and curiosity before power or authority.
- Transparency builds trust — Post-pandemic, families expect "doors and windows" into classrooms; hiding information only invites misinformation.
- Emotional intelligence trumps résumés — Adam prioritizes EQ over traditional credentials when hiring leaders, even for technical roles like HR.
- Engage in Real Life to fight the mental health crisis — Pairing a cell phone policy with real-world clubs, sports, and activities has driven major gains in attendance and behavior.
- Schools no longer have a monopoly — With school choice now widespread, districts must develop real marketing and branding strategies, like higher ed already does.
About Dr. Adam Swinyard:
The Spokane Public Schools board of directors named Dr. Adam Swinyard superintendent in the summer of 2020. In his role as superintendent for the state's largest school districts, Dr. Swinyard is tasked with implementing the district's vision, goals and policies.
Dr. Swinyard previously served as the district's associate superintendent for teaching and learning and director of secondary schools.
A native of Deer Park, Wash., Dr. Swinyard earned his B.A. in secondary education from Northwest University. He earned his M.Ed, Ed.D in executive leadership, and Washington State Principal and Superintendent credentials from Seattle Pacific University. In 2016, Dr. Swinyard received the Research on Superintendency Dissertation of the Year Award from the American Educational Research Association.
Prior to working in district administration, Dr. Swinyard was the principal at Sacajawea Middle School in Spokane from 2013 – 2016. In that role, he was twice nominated for the Association of Washington School Principals (AWSP) Washington State Middle School Principal of the Year Award. He was an AWSP Regional Principal of the Year winner in 2015. Prior to his time leading Sacajawea, Dr. Swinyard was an assistant principal at Cheney High School in Cheney, Wash., and principal assistant at Garry Middle School in Spokane.
Dr. Swinyard has teaching experience in health and fitness, language arts and social studies in western Washington school districts that include Glacier Peak High School in the Snohomish School District, and McAuliffe Elementary School in Redmond.
Dr. Swinyard and his wife have three children.
Episode 353 of the Better Learning Podcast
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23 September 2026, 4:07 am - 33 minutes 14 secondsReshaping How We View School Campuses with Dr. Sharon Bradley
Dr. Sharon Bradley, founder of Bradley Site Design and a landscape architect with four decades of experience, joins Matt Rogers to explore how school campuses can become powerful teaching tools rather than just backdrops. Sharon shares how her childhood in the English countryside shaped her belief in "environment as teacher," and explains her curriculum integration model — mapping specific lesson units directly onto campus features like whisper walls, bioretention gardens, and stormwater "raindrop journeys." She also discusses how early collaboration between landscape architects, building architects, and educators leads to campuses that are both cost-effective and deeply engaging for students and communities.
Takeaways:
- Environment as teacher — Childhood immersion in nature shaped Sharon's belief that outdoor spaces can teach as powerfully as classrooms.
- Curriculum drives design — Mapping existing lesson units onto campus features makes outdoor learning easy for teachers to adopt.
- Necessity sparks creativity — Required elements like retaining walls and stormwater systems can double as engaging teaching tools (e.g., "whisper walls").
- Bring landscape architects in early — Involving them from the start, not as an afterthought, leads to better-integrated, more functional campuses.
- Natural design saves money — Native plantings and bioretention areas cut irrigation and maintenance costs while boosting engagement.
About Dr. Sharon Bradley:
Through her practice and her research, Sharon has developed a unique design methodology that addresses social, economic, and ecological issues on educational campuses and in residential communities. With 40 years of experience creating immersive learning landscapes, her Curriculum Integration techniques and impact assessment frameworks have become models for campus design. Her unique approach results in sites that invite exploration and discovery, with elements created for specific learning units and general biophilic engagement.
LinkedIn
www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-bradley-phd-pla-27a4274
Website
https://www.bradleysitedesign.com/
Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/BSD4Impact/
Episode 352 of the Better Learning Podcast
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16 September 2026, 4:53 pm - 40 minutes 40 secondsMaking Career Education Visible with Mark Shephard
Mark Shepard, K-12 Advisor at BVH Architecture, joins Carla Cummins to share his unusual path from industrial tech teacher to school superintendent to architectural firm advisor. Drawing on his experience leading a transformative CTE center project in Fremont, Nebraska, Mark discusses how listening to local industry and students — not just assumptions from educators — reshaped a district's approach to career and technical education. He dives into the design choices that put CTE on display rather than hidden away, the partnerships with local businesses that created real jobs for students, and why treating career pathways as "a means to a beginning" changes everything about how schools serve students.
Takeaways:- Ask industry, don't assume — Visiting 42 local businesses revealed a mismatch between what schools were teaching and what employers actually needed.
- Design CTE to be seen — Moving shop class from a hidden corner to the school's central crossroads, with glass walls, reshaped how students and parents viewed trade careers.
- A means to a beginning, not an end — Career pathways should launch students into real opportunity, not serve as a fallback from a four-year degree.
- Flexibility future-proofs facilities — Durable, adaptable labs let schools retool programs as local industry needs evolve.
- Student success stories build momentum — Real outcomes (jobs, scholarships, even a student following his father into the trades) generate community buy-in for future investment.
About Mark Shepard:
Mark brings over 35 years of experience in education, school planning, and facility development, most recently serving as the Superintendent of Fremont Public Schools. His career highlights include leading a $123M bond initiative (yes, $123 million), which resulted in three new elementary schools and a new Career and Technical Education (CTE) Center. With his extensive experience in education and expertise in CTE design, Mark Shepard brings valuable insights that help us enhance and innovate our programs. As a K-12 Advisor, Mark works closely with us to provide strategic guidance in designing and refining curriculum and educational initiatives that align with current industry trends and educational standards. His deep understanding of K-12 education allows him to help shape our approach to support student success and engagement.
Episode 351 of the Better Learning Podcast
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9 September 2026, 4:26 am - 43 minutes 38 secondsFacilities Leadership in a Fast-Growing District with Matt Wark
Matt Wark, Chief Facilities Officer for Forsyth County Schools, joins Katie Jubenville to share his unconventional path from a struggling student written off by his own guidance counselor to leading facilities for one of Georgia's fastest-growing, top-performing school districts. Matt discusses how his personal journey through teaching, administration, and district leadership shapes his "houses, not buildings" philosophy of facilities management, and dives into how Forsyth balances explosive growth with maintenance, community trust, and cost. He also shares his perspective as president of the Georgia 4LE chapter on building stronger partnerships between school districts and industry vendors statewide.
Takeaways:
- A rough start built a mission — Written off as a student, Matt now champions paths for every kid, not just test scores.
- Facilities are "houses," not buildings — Treating schools like home builds pride for students and staff alike.
- Growth means balance — Forsyth is shifting from new construction to upgrading older schools' infrastructure.
- Patience over quick fixes — Matt's top advice: slow down, since fast decisions create new problems.
- Partnerships over contracts — As Georgia 4LE president, Matt connects districts and vendors through trust, not transactions.
About Matt Wark:
He is currently the Chief Facilities Officer for Forsyth County Schools.
He is married to Sara Wark who works in Atlanta at the Coca Cola headquarters and they have 4 children (Mason, Riley, Jordan and Bailey) ages 13,11,10,8.
He is originally from southwest Michigan where he grew up on a family-owned farm.
He moved to Georgia in 2003 and became a teacher with Fulton County Schools. He taught 2nd grade and 5th grade including special education. He then moved to Clarke County Schools to become an assistant principal. There met his wife and relocated back to north Georgia and was an assistant principal with Dawson County Schools. While working in Dawson County he was promoted to the position of Principal. After 5 years of working in Dawson County he was called to become the Director of Assessment and Accountability with Baldwin County School District in Milledgeville, Ga. After 2 years in Baldwin County, he was promoted to Deputy Superintendent. As his family grew and his wife continued traveling to Atlanta daily, he decided to move back to the Atlanta area and what better place than north Ga. Matt successfully became the Chief Facilities Officer for Forsyth County Schools and also lives in Forsyth County where all 4 of his children attend Forsyth County Schools.
In Matt's current role, he oversees all maintenance and facilities needs for the district. This includes all new construction, renovations, modifications, general maintenance, custodial, grounds maintenance as well as, all future planning for the school district. Currently Matt oversees over 9 million square feet which includes 53 total buildings with more schools to come in the near future. Forsyth County is one of the fastest growing counties in the state of Georgia and has no signs of slowing down.
Episode 350 of the Better Learning Podcast
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2 September 2026, 4:07 am - 32 minutes 38 secondsMaking Every Dollar Count with Jennifer Gibb
In this episode, Jeff Kubiak talks with Jennifer Gibb, Vice President of Business Development at Van Pelt Construction Services, about turning school bond measures into real buildings. With 20+ years spanning district facilities leadership, bond program management, and consulting, Jen shares how districts navigate tight budgets, layered funding sources, and community skepticism to deliver modern learning environments. The conversation dives into strategic bond planning, the real story behind fast-tracked construction after a razor-thin bond vote, balancing capital projects against general fund crises, and designing flexible "good bones" buildings that age well.
Takeaways:
- Passing a bond is step one, not the finish line. Districts must keep planning and lining up alternative funding even before — and especially after — a bond vote.
- Speed protects value. Construction dollars depreciate the moment a bond passes, so moving fast (shovel-ready design/permitting) stretches every dollar further.
- Facilities and general fund health are linked. Big bond programs can mask general fund struggles — spending on buildings while cutting staff requires careful, honest community messaging.
- "Good bones" beat trendy design. Flexible layouts, strong lighting/HVAC, and updatable furniture keep buildings relevant for decades without full rebuilds.
- Radically student-centered means every action counts. From ribbon-cuttings to picking up trash, small contributions to a school environment build pride and lasting impact.
About Jennifer Gibb:
Jennifer Gibb is the Vice President of Business Development at Van Pelt Construction Services, where she helps California PK–14 educational institutions turn vision into reality through strategic planning, funding, and program management. With more than 20 years of experience in educational facilities, Jennifer is passionate about building strong partnerships, creating innovative solutions, and helping communities deliver exceptional learning environments. A recognized leader in the education facilities industry, she is equally committed to mentoring others, giving back to her community, and leading with purpose. Outside of work, Jennifer is a wife, a proud mom of two, and an advocate for making a lasting difference for students and the communities they serve.
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jtgibb
Website - https://vpcsonline.com/
Episode 349 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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26 August 2026, 4:12 am - 29 minutes 39 secondsTurning Campuses into Learning Tools with Orin Williams
Jeff Kubiak sits down with Orin Williams, Assistant Superintendent of Facilities, Planning, and Development at Riverside Unified School District, to unpack a 33-year career in school facilities planning. Orin traces his path from architecture school at Cal Poly Pomona through private practice into public education facilities, sharing how his design background shapes his advocacy for thoughtful, human-centered school environments. The conversation covers turning aging campuses into cohesive learning spaces, building community trust around bond projects, balancing tight budgets against big ambitions, and weaving "gamified" learning (like the fractions-based basketball game "Fraction Ball") directly into campus design. Orin also reflects on an unplanned detour into maintenance leadership, the emotional weight communities carry around legacy schools, and what keeps him hopeful about the future of public education.
Takeaways:
- Great architecture needs a great client. Districts get better schools when they advocate for design excellence, not just function.
- Trust comes from transparency. Honest communication turns skeptics into supporters — don't overpromise.
- Every space can teach. Gamified hallways, playgrounds, and murals turn campuses into learning tools.
- Change is emotional. Treat community pushback like grief — validate feelings before presenting facts.
- Cross-training builds better leaders. Experience across design, construction, and maintenance fosters collaboration over rivalry.
About Orin Williams:
With more than 33 years of experience dedicated to public education via capital facilities planning, construction, and maintenance, Orin Williams has led several major capital bond programs totaling over $2.9 billion. Currently, Orin serves as Assistant Superintendent, Facilities, Planning & Development for the Riverside Unified School District - the 15th largest school district in California. Previously serving for 8 years as Assistant Superintendent, Facilities & Governmental Relations for the Santa Ana Unified School District, Mr. Williams' span of responsibility included leading the Planning & Design, Construction, and Maintenance & Operations departments with teams totaling over 260. Similarly, Orin serving for over 4 years as Associate Vice Chancellor, Facilities, Planning & Development for the Riverside Community College District, Orin led a $800 million bond program developing numerous projects at the District's three colleges and various education centers. Additionally, Mr. Williams served the Riverside Unified School District twice previously as Director of Facilities, and later as Director of M&O for a total of over 17 years. Lastly, Orin served as Facilities Planner for the Pomona Unified School District for 2 years.
Williams holds a Bachelor of Architecture from the California State Polytechnic University, Pomona, was an Engineering major at U.C. Riverside, and holds numerous professional certifications. Orin served as President of the Southern California Chapter and member of the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE), and member of Coalition for Adequate School Housing (CASH), and School Energy Coalition (SEC), and serves as a workshop panel member as well as served on various committees within these educational facility-focused organizations. In 2022, Orin received the California Association of Latino Superintendents and Administrators (CALSA) State Classified Employee of the Year award.
Episode 348 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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19 August 2026, 4:02 am - 27 minutes 34 secondsInside Rock Hill's $336M Vision for Safer, Smarter Schools with Andrew Jones
In this episode, Matt Rogers sits down with Andrew Jones, Executive Director for Safety and Emergency Management at Rock Hill School District (South Carolina), to explore how safety and design intersect in modern school construction. Andrew shares his winding path from youth ministry to law enforcement, teaching, and school administration before landing in his current role. The conversation dives deep into the district's new Sunset Park Elementary School project — a $336 million, 10-year facilities initiative — covering CPTED (Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design), hardwired access control, AI-powered cameras, generator-backed security systems, and pod-style learning layouts. Andrew emphasizes collaborative decision-making, visiting other campuses, and balancing beautiful, light-filled learning environments with rigorous safety standards. He closes with his guiding philosophy: prepare and plan rather than simply hope and pray, all in service of keeping students and staff safe.
Takeaways:
- Safety is built in from day one, not added later.
- School security now covers access control, cameras, communications, and weather alerts.
- Critical systems run on backup power to stay functional during outages.
- Campus tours and community input shaped the new pod-style school design.
- Proven, practical solutions beat flashy tech — "prep and plan," not "hope and pray."
Episode 347 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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12 August 2026, 4:25 am - 21 minutes 12 secondsStudent-Centered Leadership in a Small District with Dr. Amy Alzina
In this episode, Jeff Kubiak talks with Dr. Amy Alzina, superintendent of Cold Spring School District, about running a high-performing small school district in Santa Barbara County. They cover the mission of the Small School Districts Association, building genuine student connection beyond the classroom, designing flexible and indoor/outdoor learning spaces, funding strategies and community trust, and career advice for aspiring school business officials. The conversation closes on emerging school finance trends, concerns over new leave legislation's impact on students, and cautious optimism about AI's role in personalized education.
Takeaways:- Small districts, big impact: SSDA represents 60% of California's school districts, advocating for local control and equitable funding for schools with 2,500 students or fewer.
- Every student needs three advocates: Educators should intentionally connect with students outside their own classroom, not just their assigned group.
- Flexible spaces drive engagement: Barn doors, couches, wobble seats, and outdoor courtyards let students choose how and where they learn best.
- Trust and transparency fuel community investment: Strong test scores, low absenteeism, and visible results (like plaques for donors) build the community support that funds specialist programs.
- New leave policy risks instructional continuity: The 14-week pregnancy leave combined with a 30-day cap on long-term subs could mean a revolving door of teachers for young students learning foundational skills like reading.
About Dr. Amy Alzina:
Dr. Amy Alzina is a trailblazer in TK–12 education and a leading voice in the integration of artificial intelligence across California school systems. As the Chair of ACSA's Artificial Intelligence Task Force and a board member for both the Association of California School Administrators (ACSA) and the Small School Districts' Association (SSDA), Dr. Alzina plays a pivotal role in shaping statewide AI policy and practice as chair of the SSDA Legislative and Policy Committee.
In addition to serving as Superintendent of Cold Spring School District, one of the top academically performing school districts in the state of California, Dr. Alzina supports districts statewide in implementing AI tools that increase efficiency, personalize learning, and enhance productivity. Under her leadership, Cold Spring has earned a reputation not only for excellence in innovation but also for maintaining the highest standards in student achievement.
Prior to her current role, Dr. Alzina served in Santa Barbara Unified School District as Assistant Superintendent of Elementary Education and as Principal of Adams Elementary School, an ESSA Distinguished School recognized as one of the Top 100 Title I Schools in the nation. Her leadership consistently reflects a commitment to equity, excellence, and future-ready learning
Episode 346 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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5 August 2026, 4:57 am - 49 minutes 52 secondsDesigning a Second Home for Students with Learning Differences with Shara Bumgarner & Janann Pittman
In this episode, host Matt Rogers and co-host Dr. Brian McCraw talk with Shara Bumgarner, cofounder of Houston's Joy School, and architect Janann Pittman of Jackson & Ryan Architects about creating a K-8 school built for kids with learning differences. From the school's humble start with four students in 1997 to its thoughtfully designed campus today, Shara and Janann unpack how intentional design - down to door handles and bathroom stalls - can turn a school into a true second home. They dig into individualized instruction, the "it depends" philosophy, and why joy, not just remediation, should be at the heart of every learning space.
Takeaways:
- No one-size-fits-all - Kids are grouped by specific learning needs, not grade level or diagnosis.
- Design follows philosophy - Spaces are built around flexibility and the school's culture, not just function.
- Details matter - Even door handles and toilet flushes were chosen to ease student anxiety.
- Safety enables learning - An anxious brain can't learn, so comfort comes first for kids and parents alike.
- Joy beats survival - Disco balls and dance parties aren't extras - they're core to helping kids truly thrive.
About Shara Bumgarner:
Shara Bumgarner co-founded The Joy School in 1997 and has been our Head of School since 2002. Shara's inspiration for starting The Joy School stemmed from witnessing bright students with learning differences and disabilities slip through the cracks in public school because of a lack of understanding of such students. Shara is committed to providing the most optimal, joyful environment for students and teachers with an emphasis on embracing individual differences. Starting The Joy School changed her life as an educator, and she hopes to have that same impact on each student, parent and teacher at the School. Outside of school, Shara focuses on her family, which includes her supportive husband and three daughters.
Link to Shara's LinkedIn account - Link
Link to The Joy School Website - Link
About Janann Pittman, AIA:
For over 35 years, since her first K-12 and higher education projects, Janann has been passionate about institutional and educational architecture that reinforces and expands communities, and impacts children of all ages.
As a Principal with Jackson & Ryan Architects, Janann is licensed in multiple states, with education projects from Pennsylvania to Texas. Janann seeks to understand her unique clients and their communities, so her designs reflect them and serve them in highly personal ways.
Janann comes from a family of educators and has served on numerous PTO boards and committees for her sons' schools, on the Rice University Alumni Board, and was a founding board member of Books Between Kids.
While Janann loved her time at Rice University, she is most enthusiastic about her middle school years at Shoreham-Wading River Middle School. Named a Blue Ribbon School the first year the award was given, Janann loved the fabulous arts and community service programs, and the focus on interdisciplinary projects, in smaller neighborhood communities. And, the amazing school even had goats!
Link to Janann's LinkedIn account - Link
Link to Education portion of JRA web site Link to JRA education web page
Link to Jackson & Ryan Architects Education brochure Link to Design for Education brochure
Episode 345 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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29 July 2026, 4:16 am - 26 minutes 37 secondsLearning by Region at A4LE Georgia
In this episode, host Katie Jubenville brings listeners conversations from the A4LE Georgia Chapter Conference on Jekyll Island. Guests explore what "Radically Student Centered™" design truly means, the everyday details students notice that adults overlook, partnerships between design firms and educators, and creative problem-solving during construction — plus some fun local picks for how they'd spend a day on Jekyll Island.
Our guests, in order of appearnace:
Namrata Dani, AIA:
Corgan
Architect
https://www.linkedin.com/in/namratadani/
Jill Hackett:
Turner & Townsend Heery
Director
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillwofford/
Jesse Frasier:
Turner & Townsend Heery
Vice President
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessefrasier/
Carissa Shrock Oyedele, AIA, NCIDQ, LEED AP BDC:
Corgan
Associate Principal, Senior Project Manager & Architect
https://www.linkedin.com/in/carissa-shrock-oyedele-aia-ncidq-leed-ap-bdc-566a3685/
Heli Shah:
CDH Partners, Inc.
Project Director
https://www.linkedin.com/in/helishah/
Jamie B. Case:
CDH Partners, Inc.
Principal (Jamie) & Project Director (Heli)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-b-case-5a640012/
Dawn Hill:
Elbert County School District
Special Education Administrative Assistant
Episode 344 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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