- 1 hour 13 minutes"The Games in Black & White": George Hirthler on Atlanta's Unlikely Olympics
Remember when Atlanta won the right to host the 1996 Olympics? The Centennial Olympics, the ones that Athens desperately wanted to host and everyone thought Athens would win because the Olympics were born in Greece? And then Atlanta won, and everyone was surprised?
Well, we've got the story of how Atlanta shocked the world.
Writer and producer George Hirthler joins us to discuss his documentary "The Games in Black & White." This Emmy award-winning film delves into the unlikely friendship of then-Atlanta mayor Andy Young and conservative lawyer Billy Payne, who joined forces to bring the Olympics to Atlanta and put the city on the world map.
The documentary covers the full spectrum of the Olympics, from bid to the Games themselves. However, along with incredible athletic spectacle and some operational issues, the Atlanta 1996 Olympics are also known for the bombing that took place in Centennial Olympic Park. George talks with us about that incident and the toll that it took on members of the organizing committee.
We also discuss the unlikely legacies from these Olympics and how they permanently changed the geography of the city.
You can watch "The Games in Black & White" on PBS: https://www.pbs.org/show/the-games-in-black-and-white
Also, Jill went to LA for the LA28 World Press Briefing. She's got some impressions of the city, its accessibility and what to look for when getting tickets and booking hotels.
Plus, we have some feedback on potential cauldron lighters!
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30 July 2026, 3:49 pm - 38 minutes 45 secondsThe Moscow 1980 Olympics with Author Tommy Phillips
Thanks to a US-led boycott, the first Olympics hosted by a communist country has long been a big black hole in our knowledge of the Olympics -- until now.
On this episode, we're joined by author Tommy Phillips, who wrote The 1980 Moscow Olympics: A Day-by-Day History. His book captures all of the major happenings at these Olympics, which were dominated by the USSR and East Germany. These countries' athletes dominated with skill and athleticism....and also maybe thanks to doping and some clever help along the way.
We talk with Tommy about some of the wilder hijinks at play during the Games, as well as which nations benefitted from the US and its boycott allies not being at these Olympics.
Get your own copy of Tommy's book at our bookshop.org storefront (affiliate link).
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Keep the Flame Alive: Obsessed with the Olympics and Paralympics? Just curious about how Olympic and Paralympic sports work? You've found your people! Join your hosts, Olympic aunties Alison Brown and Jill Jaracz for smart, fun, and down-to-earth interviews with athletes coaches, and the unsung heroes behind the Games. Get the stories you don't find anywhere else. Tun in weekly all year-round, and daily during the Olympics and Paralympics. We're your cure for your Olympic Fever! Call us: (208) FLAME-IT.
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23 July 2026, 5:20 am - 52 minutes 24 secondsTwo Years to LA28 with Superfan Sarah
In two years, the LA 2028 Olympics will get underway, and we're looking ahead to those Games and what they'll have to offer. Superfan Sarah, officially recognized as Team USA's #1 fan, joins us to talk about how to prepare for the Olympics and Paralympics and what sports we're looking forward to seeing. We also discuss the many American comebacks that are happening in light of a home Games, and we start speculating on who could light the cauldron. Who do you think will be involved? Let us know!
Volunteer applications are open for LA28. They're looking for Games-time volunteers in all of the host cities, but if you're local to the Los Angeles area, there are ongoing opportunities to help out with monthly beautification and restoration projects. Find more info and apply here: https://volunteer.la28.org/en
In other LA 2028 news:
- We're closer to seeing Major League Baseball players participate in the Olympics
- On Location has announced hospitality packages for more sports and competition zones, plus a "follow my team" option for basketball ("climate control" and "shade" are big catchphrases with hospitality options)
- More hospitality houses are coming, including ones for Africa, Cabo Verde, Germany and Romania.
SUMMER OF NOSTALGIA
We're having a Summer of Nostalgia at our Patreon site where we're sharing never-before-seen photos and videos from our escapades at Beijing 2022, Paris 2024, and Milano Cortina 2026. Relive those memories with us by becoming a patron or purchasing the Summer of Nostalgia collection at patreon.com/flamealivepod.
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16 July 2026, 3:13 pm - 1 hour 23 minutesShocks in the Olympic World!
We're back from a recording hiatus, and boy, do we have a lot of Olympics news to catch up on!
First, Milano Cortina 2026 released its final report, and we go between the lines to suss out its venue delivery expectations, celebrity initiative, and a major issue they should have figured out earlier--as in, during the bid process.
LA28 has made a ton of announcements over the last few weeks, so we have the latest on:
- The Paralympic schedule
- Ticket drop #2
- Cycling routes
- Volunteer applications
- Modern pentathlon's new obstacle course licensing
- Hospitality house updates
- And more!
We also say au revoir to French Alpes 2030 and bonjour to Alpes 2030 (which we most certainly will mangle), along with its new logo and venue plan (to each Games its own Tahiti).
Alpes 2030 finalized its sport program, and the changes have been shocking. Great new events come onto the Olympic program, and an OG Winter Olympic discipline gets the boot.
In Doping News, we're still talking about medal reallocations from London 2012.
International Olympic Committee president Kirsty Coventry's Fit for the Future platform is creating big change, including:
- Olympic Charter changes that affect political neutrality (hello, Russia) and make it easier to change the entire sports program
- Defining the differences of "sport," "discipline" and "event" when it comes to the Olympic program
- Paying athletes - a new Olympic grant program makes waves after Coventry's first big press gaffe
- And more!
We also have an announcement about our 2026 Book Club selections, which you can get at our bookshop.org storefront (affiliate link)
Summer of Nostalgia: We've been cleaning out the files and found a treasure trove of never-before-seen photos and videos! All summer long we're sharing them on our Patreon platform. Relive great moments from the last three Olympics and Paralympics in Keep the Flame Alive style (and you know that means we focus on the weird stuff)! Join as a patron or buy the collection outright - check out patreon.com/flamealivepod today!
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9 July 2026, 6:26 pm - 21 minutes 37 secondsCortina 1956 Winter Olympics: Cross-Country Skiing's New Era
In our year-long look back at the Cortina d'Ampezzo 1956 Winter Olympics, we head to the cross-country skiing stadium (built with filming in mind) where we're in the early years of the Hakulinen-Jernberg Era. Finland's Veikko Hakulinen and Sweden's Sixten Jergberg were the dominant forces in cross-country skiing, and their performances at Cortina 1956 were no exception!
However, the Soviet Union wanted to make a statement during its first appearance at a Winter Olympics, and its athletes found the podium time and time again, ending a Scandinavian hold on the sport in both the men's and women's competitions.
Find out who won, who lost, what the press said about the female competitors (it's not pretty, unlike their lipstick), and who was blinded by the light. Plus, we have a report from the snack table!
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25 June 2026, 5:00 am - 1 hour 1 minuteJavelin with 4x Olympian Kara Winger
It's another installment of our People Who Throw Things series! This time we're talking javelin with 4x Olympian Kara Winger. Kara spent 15 years as a professional athlete, and in that time she competed at Beijing 2008, London 2012, Rio 2016 and Tokyo 2020 (where she was also elected for Closing Ceremony flagbearer). She stays involved with the throws community as a coach, official and ambassador for the sport.
We talk with Kara about how javelin works. Kara breaks down the makeup (and cost) of a javelin, the physics involved with the event, the approach, the throw and follow-through. Plus, we get some insight on her Olympic experiences and what she's up to today!
Everything you want to know about javelin is right here!
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18 June 2026, 5:00 am - 21 minutes 56 secondsCortina 1956 Winter Olympics: Bobsled
We're traveling back in time to the Cortina 1956 Winter Olympics to hear all about the bobsled (or bobsleigh) competition. These Games saw some big changes: New rules about weight and new types of sleds. Cortina 1956 was the first Olympics for Italian Eugenio Monti, whose results put him on the road to becoming a local hero and one of the best bobsled drivers of all time.
Bobsled also featured some sibling rivalry, royalty and the last American medal before a decades-long dry spell. Weather impacted the bobsledders in a bad way. Did Mother Nature have something against the Swiss? Come along on a wild ride through the icy bobsled track of Cortina.
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11 June 2026, 5:00 am - 59 minutes 6 secondsCoxswain: The Hardest Position in Rowing
Paralympic silver medalist Jenny Sichel joins us to talk all things coxswain: What the position does, how vital they are to the success of the boat, and what they carry in their coxswain bag.
Jenny has competed as a coxswain in both able-bodied and para rowing. We talk with her about how she got into coxing and discovered para rowing. Plus, we talk about her Paralympic experiences at Rio 2016 and the heartbreaking circumstances around the boat's silver medal.
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4 June 2026, 5:00 am - 57 minutes 25 secondsAthlete Mental Health with Paralympian Jenny Sichel
For Mental Health Awareness Month, we welcome back Jenny Sichel to talk about her experiences with being an elite athlete while managing Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Jenny is a coxswain who competed with both able-bodied and para rowing crews. We talked with her about being misdiagnosed for years, the work that went into taking control of her condition, and how it affected her as an elite athlete.
You can learn more about OCD at the International OCD Foundation: iocdf.org.
Find Jenny on LinkedIn, Insta, and Facebook.
Also on the program:
The Interntional Ski & Snowboard Federation had plenty of thoughts about how the Milano Cortina 2026 Winter Olympics went. Plus, the Milano Cortina Organizing Committee may have more budgetary issues with the ice hockey arena.
LA 2028 announced its Cultural Olympiad. We try to find the actual news within its press release.
French Alps 2030 chose a venue in the Netherlands to host the speed skating events. Guess how far away that is from everything else.
The International Olympic Committee Executive Board met recently, and President Kirsty Coventry is getting the organization "Fit for the Future." We delve into all the ways you could see change at upcoming Games, whether the Youth Olympic Games will return, and if anyone at the IOC knows how a sport gets onto the Olympic program.
In news from Team Keep the Flame Alive, we hear from:
- Fencers Miles Chamley-Watson, Lee Kiefer, Maia Chamberlain, Alexander Massialas and Kat Holmes
- Former luger Maura Grogan
- Former figure skater Gracie Gold
- Filmmaker George Hirthler - to get tickets to "The Games in Black & White," visit TaraAtlanta's website.
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Photo courtesy of Jenny Sichel.
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21 May 2026, 9:12 pm - 20 minutes 22 secondsCortina 1956 Winter Olympics: Alpine Skiing's New Hero
In our year-long look back at the Cortina d'Ampezzo 1956 Winter Olympics, we take to the slopes of the Tofane in the Dolomites to explore the Alpine skiing competition. With three events for men and women alike, athletes thrilled spectators on the slopes.
The clear hero of Alpine skiing--and of these Olympics--was Austrian Toni Sailor. Hear how experts discounted his talents and how he almost didn't make a competition. On the women's side, hear how a pharmacy student surprised everyone in the slalom. Plus, Japan wins its first-ever Winter Olympic medal. Find out who raced to national glory and made the podium!
All this, plus more amazing stories from the seventh Winter Olympic Games.
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Keep the Flame Alive: Obsessed with the Olympics and Paralympics? Just curious about how Olympic and Paralympic sports work? You've found your people! Join your hosts, Olympic aunties Alison Brown and Jill Jaracz for smart, fun, and down-to-earth interviews with athletes coaches, and the unsung heroes behind the Games. Get the stories you don't find anywhere else. Tun in weekly all year-round, and daily during the Olympics and Paralympics. We're your cure for your Olympic Fever! Call us: (208) FLAME-IT.
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14 May 2026, 4:30 am - 49 minutes 28 secondsU.S. Center for SafeSport Explainer with CEO Benita Fitzgerald Mosley
The U.S. Center for SafeSport was created in 2017 by the U.S. Congress in the wake of the Larry Nasser scandal to address abuse and misconduct in American Olympic and Paralympic sports. On this episode, we talk with Benita Fitzgerald Mosley, who became the organization's new chief executive officer in February 2026.
Benita is an Olympic champion herself, winning gold in 1984 in the 100 meter hurdles. She's also a mother of children who have their own competitive athletic journeys. These experiences combine to give her insight as to how to lead an organization whose mission is to protect young athletes.
Our conversation, which took place during her first week on the job, gets into the differences of the inappropriate behavior she saw during her time as an athlete, the measures the U.S. Center for SafeSport is taking today, and her hopes for what the center can achieve in the future.
Also on this episode, Alison reviews her experience at Stars on Ice, which includes insight on how influential Alysa Liu has become in our culture.
Plus, there are rumors that the International Olympic Committee has said game over to esports and has thoughts about the sports programs for French Alps 2030 and Brisbane 2032.
2026 marks the 50th anniversary of the Montreal 1976 Summer Olympics. All year long, cultural institutions and the Olympic Park will have events to celebrate these Games. The fun will culminate in a big 50th anniversary celebration on August 1.
Find out what's going on here: https://montrealolympique.ca/en/
The best event will be The Great Nadia Gathering in honor of the impact Nadia Comaneci had on baby names. If you're a Nadia of a certain age (born 1976-1978), this contest is for you:
https://montrealolympique.ca/en/events/the-great-nadia-gathering-contest/
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Photo courtesy of U.S. Center for SafeSport.
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Keep the Flame Alive: Obsessed with the Olympics and Paralympics? Just curious about how Olympic and Paralympic sports work? You've found your people! Join your hosts, Olympic aunties Alison Brown and Jill Jaracz for smart, fun, and down-to-earth interviews with athletes coaches, and the unsung heroes behind the Games. Get the stories you don't find anywhere else. Tun in weekly all year-round, and daily during the Olympics and Paralympics. We're your cure for your Olympic Fever! Call us: (208) FLAME-IT.
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