- 34 minutes 29 secondsUnchecked AI and the Exploitation of Personal Data: National Security Implications with Margaret Hu and Davi Ottenheimer (Part 1 Recast)
This week, we revisit Elisa’s conversation with Margaret Hu, Professor of Law at William & Mary, and Davi Ottenheimer, Vice President of Trust and Digital Ethics at Inrupt, to examine the vulnerabilities embedded in our digital footprints. Together, they discuss microtargeting, the exploitation of personal data, and how a stronger federal data privacy framework could better protect individuals, institutions, and public trust.
Margaret Hu is the Taylor Reveley Research Professor and Professor of Law, and Director of the Digital Democracy Lab, at William & Mary Law School
Davi Ottenheimer is Vice President of Trust and Digital Ethics at Inrupt
References:
- Register: Luncheon program featuring former DOJ Assistant Attorneys General for National Security – June 4th at 12PM, at the University Club in Washington DC
- Subscribe to our Youtube
- Ep. 340, Unchecked AI and the Exploitation of Personal Data: National Security Implications with Margaret Hu and Davi Ottenheimer (Part 2)
- Ep. 179, Algorithms – Who's in Control? with Alex Stamos (Part 1)
- Ep. 180, Algorithms – Who’s in Control? with Alex Stamos (Part 2)
- Ep. 411, Russia’s War of Attrition: Massive Losses and Tiny Gains with Seth Jones
- Ep. 416, The Drone Disruption: How Autonomous Systems Are Reshaping the Battlefield with Dawn Zoldi
- California SB 1386, Overview
- The General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)
- The EU Artificial Intelligence Act, Overview
28 May 2026, 4:28 pm - 39 minutes 22 secondsCognitive Warfare: AI, False Realities, and the Laws of War with Gary Corn
AI and the modern information ecosystem are making reality harder to verify, and easier to weaponize. This week, Elisa Poteat is joined by Gary Corn, Program Director and Adjunct Professor of Technology, Law and Security at American University Washington College of Law, to discuss his recent article, “Cognitive Warfare: Generative AI, False Realities, and International Humanitarian Law.” Together, they explore how cognitive warfare has been used throughout history, how deepfakes and synthetic media could accelerate its effects, and what international humanitarian law can, and cannot, do to address the risks AI poses to civilians, truth, and modern conflict.
Professor Gary Corn is Director of the Technology, Law & Security Program and an adjunct professor of cyber and national security law and the law of armed conflict at American University Washington College of Law.
References:
- Corn, Gary P. “Cognitive Warfare: Generative AI, False Realities, and International Humanitarian Law.” American University Washington College of Law, 2025.
- Sun-tzu. The Art of War. Translated by Lionel Giles, Project Gutenberg, 1994.
- Video Series: Operation InfeKtion. The New York Times Opinion, 2018.
- The Law of Armed Conflict Overview
- U.S. Constitution, Article IV: Relationships Between the States. Legal Information Institute, Cornell Law School.
- Gary Corn Articles of War Profile. Lieber Institute for Law & Warfare, United States Military Academy at West Point.
- NSLT, Ep. 339, "Unchecked AI and the Exploitation of Personal Data: National Security Implications with Margaret Hu and Davi Ottenheimer (Part 1)"
- NSLT, Ep. 411, "Russia’s War of Attrition: Massive Losses and Tiny Gains with Seth Jones"
- NSLT, Ep. 416, "The Drone Disruption: How Autonomous Systems Are Reshaping the Battlefield with Dawn Zoldi"
22 May 2026, 1:34 pm - 31 minutes 12 secondsSecuring AI: Threat Models, Prompt Injections, and National Security with Shoshana Cox
As AI becomes more deeply embedded in government and national security systems, one question grows harder to ignore: can these tools actually be secured? This week, Elisa is joined by Disesdi Shoshana Cox, CEO and Head of Research at Bermuda Hundred Strategies, to examine the cybersecurity risks behind AI integration. Together, they discuss whether AI models can be corrected after harmful inputs, how threat modeling can help secure national security use cases, and why prompt injections pose a serious risk as AI systems become more widely deployed across government.
Shoshana Cox is the CEO and Head of Research at Bermuda Hundred Strategies and an AI security architect, researcher, and strategist whose work focuses on AI threat modeling, MLSecOps, and defensive architectures for mission-critical systems.
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14 May 2026, 9:18 pm - 39 minutes 7 secondsBiological Data Governance in an Age of AI with Doni Bloomfield
AI is unlocking new speed and power in biological research, creating opportunities for medical breakthroughs while raising new questions about oversight. This week, Elisa sits down with Doni Bloomfield, Associate Professor of Law at Fordham University, to discuss his recent report, Biological Data Governance in an Age of AI, and the growing risks of training AI models on sensitive viral and genetic information. Together, they explore how AI-powered virus research could shape future treatments, while examining the biosecurity risks of open scientific access and what thoughtful oversight might require.
Doni Bloomfield is an Associate Professor of Law at Fordham Law School whose work focuses on intellectual property, biosecurity, national security law, and health law.
References:
- Bloomfield, Doni et al. “Biological data governance in an age of AI.” Science (New York, N.Y.) vol. 391,6785 (2026): 558-561
- Turner, Stephen D. “Tiered Access for AIxBio Governance.” Paired Ends, 9 Feb. 2026.
- Amodei, Dario. “The Adolescence of Technology: Confronting and Overcoming the Risks of Powerful AI.” Dario Amodei, Jan. 2026.
- NIH All of Us Research Program
- The White House. America’s AI Action Plan. Washington, DC: The White House, July 2025.
- Supreme Court of Alabama. Laurie Ibach and Mark Stewart v. Bruce Stewart, No. SC-2025-0106, Apr. 24, 2026.
7 May 2026, 8:44 pm - 40 minutes 20 secondsGhost in the Machine: What AI Inherited and Why It Matters with Valerie Veatch
As artificial intelligence accelerates, questions about its origins—and underlying assumptions—are becoming harder to ignore. This week, Elisa sits down with filmmaker Valerie Veatch to explore her latest documentary, Ghost in the Machine, which traces the intellectual roots of AI back to the eugenics movement. Together, they examine how these early ideologies may still echo in today’s AI systems, what it means for a workforce increasingly shaped by automation, and how unchecked technological progress can lead to unintended consequences.
Valerie Veatch is a writer, director, and producer of documentary films, including Me @ the Zoo, Love Child, and her latest release, Ghost in the Machine.
References:
- McQuillan, Dan. Resisting AI: An Anti-fascist Approach to Artificial Intelligence. Bristol University Press, 2022.
- Bender, Emily M., and Alex Hanna. The AI Con: How to Fight Big Tech’s Hype and Create the Future We Want. Harper, 2025.
- Becker, Adam. More Everything Forever: AI Overlords, Space Empires, and Silicon Valley’s Crusade to Control the Fate of Humanity. Basic Books, 2025.
- Sacks, David O., and Peter Thiel. The Diversity Myth: Multiculturalism and Political Intolerance on Campus. Independent Institute, 1998.
- “Q-Day Just Got Closer: Three Papers in Three Months Are Rewriting the Quantum Threat Timeline.” The Quantum Insider, 31 Mar. 2026
29 April 2026, 9:10 pm - 28 minutes 24 secondsIran’s Cyber Playbook: Attacks, Proxies, and Civilian Impact with Ricoh Danielson
When cyberattacks target hospitals, infrastructure, and everyday systems, the line between battlefield and civilian life begins to blur. This week, Elisa is joined by Ricoh Danielson, a cybersecurity expert, U.S. Army veteran, and CEO of 1st Responder Cyber, to unpack Iran’s expanding cyber operations and what they reveal about modern warfare. Drawing on recent attacks and long-standing tactics, they examine how Iran uses cyber tools to project power, exploit both human and technical vulnerabilities, and disrupt essential services.
Ricoh Danielson is a U.S. Army combat veteran, digital forensics expert, cybersecurity leader, and CEO of 1st Responder Cyber.
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21 April 2026, 9:17 pm - 49 minutes 36 secondsThe Drone Disruption: How Autonomous Systems Are Reshaping the Battlefield with Dawn Zoldi
What happens when weapons that cost a few thousand dollars can rival—and even outmaneuver—systems worth millions? This week, Elisa is joined by Dawn Zoldi, a retired Air Force Colonel, attorney, and founder of P3 Tech Consulting, to break down the rapid rise of drone warfare and its growing impact on global conflict. Drawing on examples from Ukraine, Iran, and across the Middle East, they explore how inexpensive drones are transforming military strategy, how AI is reshaping their capabilities, and what it means for those operating far from the battlefield. From swarm technology to legal accountability, the conversation also looks ahead—examining how autonomous drone systems could reshape private sector and industrial roles, taking on tasks once considered too dangerous, costly, or complex for humans.
Dawn Zoldi is a retired Air Force Colonel, licensed attorney, CEO & Founder of P3 Tech Consulting, Publisher of Autonomy Global and an internationally recognized expert on uncrewed aircraft system law and policy.
Autonomy Global is the leading digital media platform providing cutting-edge insights on autonomous technologies, featuring the latest news, industry trends, policies and expert analysis on dual-use drones, eVTOLs, robotics, space, maritime and enabling technologies worldwide.
References:
- Tune in to the Dawn of Autonomy Podcast
- Subscribe to the Autonomy Global Newsletter
- Article: Zoldi, Dawn. “Burning Down the Miracles: Inside Skunk Works’ Next Long-Range Kill Chain Breakthroughs.” Autonomy Global, 26 Feb. 2026
- NSLT Ep. 123, "Drones in the Pandemic with Dawn Zoldi". May 7 2020.
- U.S. Department of War Statement on DJI Systems
- The Law of Armed Conflict Overview
- The Rules of Engagement (ROE) Overview
- XPONENTIAL 2026 – May 11th-14th in Detroit, MI
14 April 2026, 6:47 pm - 42 minutes 27 secondsAssessing the War with Iran: Military Policy and Legal Perspectives
A fragile ceasefire between the United States and Iran has paused active hostilities—but major questions remain about what comes next. This week, we feature a recent live panel discussion, “Assessing the War with Iran: Military Policy and Legal Perspectives,” co-hosted by the ABA Standing Committee on Law and National Security and Syracuse University’s Institute for Security Policy and Law. Moderated by Judge James Baker and featuring retired Vice Admiral Robert Murrett and Elisa Ewers, the panel examines the strategic, legal, and economic dimensions of the conflict. Recorded just prior to the ceasefire, the conversation explores U.S. military objectives, the legal authorities underpinning action, potential exit strategies, and the broader global implications of escalation in the region.
Introductions by Stephen Preston, Chair of the ABAs Standing Committee on Law and National Security and Partner at WilmerHale
Moderated by Judge James Baker, Director of the Syracuse University Institute for Security Policy and Law and a Professor of Law at Syracuse University
Robert Murrett is Deputy Director of the Institute for Security Policy and Law at Syracuse University
Elisa Ewers is a Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and an Adjunct Senior Fellow at RAND and the Center for a New American Security
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8 April 2026, 4:56 pm - 32 minutes 42 secondsIran’s Cyber Front: Where Digital and Physical War Converge with Matt Suiche
As the conflict with Iran evolves, cyber capabilities are proving just as consequential as traditional military force. This week, Elisa sits down with Matt Suiche, founder of OnDB and a former hacker, to examine how cyber operations shape intelligence gathering, targeting, and real-time decision-making in modern conflict. Together, they explore the vulnerabilities of AI systems, the physical risks to critical infrastructure like data centers and undersea cables, and what these emerging threats reveal about the limits of technology in high-stakes warfare.
Matt Suiche is a cybersecurity researcher and founder of OnDB Inc., a data infrastructure startup for the agentic economy.
References:
- NSLT Episode: Elemental Power: Mining, Markets, and the Critical Minerals Challenge with Tommy Beaudreau (Part 1). Feb 18 2025
- NSLT Episode: Seabed Mining as a National Security Threat: The Laws of the Sea with Matt Dianni (Part 1). Jan. 13 2022
- NSLT Episode: Profiting from Polarization: The Economics of America’s Culture War. Nov. 26 2025
- The New York Times. "Meta and YouTube Found Negligent in Landmark Social Media Addiction Trial." 25 Mar. 2026
1 April 2026, 4:50 pm - 40 minutes 11 secondsThe Hormuz Chokepoint: Iran’s Broader Strategy at Work with Alamdar Hamdani
As tensions in the Strait of Hormuz disrupt global markets, they reflect a broader set of unconventional strategies Iran has deployed for decades. This week, Elisa sits down with Alamdar Hamdani, former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Texas and current partner at Bracewell, to examine how Iran leverages asymmetric tactics—from cyber operations and proxy forces to sanctions evasion and maritime disruption. Together, they explore how these strategies intersect with U.S. national security law, energy markets, and the evolving role of lawyers navigating global instability.
Alamdar Hamdani is a partner at Bracewell LLP and previously served as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of Texas
References:
- The International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA)
- The Material Support Statute
- The Export Administration Regulations (EAR) Overview
- The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) Overview
- "Justice Department Files Action to Protect National Security by Enforcing President’s Order of Chinese Company’s Divestment from U.S. Company." Office of Public Affairs, 10 Feb. 2026
- NSLT Episode, "Held as Leverage: Iran, Hostage Diplomacy, and the Fight for Release with Kieran Ramsey" March 18 2026.
- NSLT Episode, "From Pipelines to Prisoners: Security in the Energy Sector with Kieran Ramsey (Part 1)" June 4 2025
- NSLT Episode, "The Lawless Secrecy of International Shipping with Matthew Campbell (Part 1)" June 23 2022
- Campbell, Matthew, and Kit Chellel. Dead in the Water: A True Story of Hijacking, Murder, and a Global Maritime Conspiracy. Penguin Random House, 2022
26 March 2026, 5:31 pm - 1 hour 18 minutesHeld as Leverage: Iran, Hostage Diplomacy, and the Fight for Release with Kieran Ramsey
As tensions with Iran persist, the issue of wrongful detention remains a critical but often overlooked national security concern. This week, Elisa sits down with Kieran Ramsey, former Director of the FBI’s Hostage Recovery Fusion Cell and current Chief Investigative Officer at Global Reach, to examine how countries like Iran use arbitrary detention—and how these cases are tracked and challenged on the global stage. The episode also includes audio from our recent luncheon with journalist Jason Rezaian, who recounts his 544 days of detention in Tehran’s Evin Prison and reflects on how his experience intersects with law, diplomacy, and the human cost of these high-stakes cases.
Kieran Ramsey is Chief Investigative Officer at Global Reach, a private company that deals with individuals wrongfully held or taken hostage around the world.
References:
The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)
The UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention
E.O. 14248, Strengthening Efforts to Protect U.S. Nationals from Wrongful Detention Abroad
Rezaian, Jason. Prisoner: My 544 Days in an Iranian Prison. HarperCollins, 2019
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