Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss how Christians should think about the death penalty.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Is the death penalty biblical?
• What is the Christian framework for being against the death penalty?
• Why do we have civil laws?
• Is the death penalty just? Is it a deterrent?
• How could you kill an image bearer by any means?
• How does the civil government wield the sword? How do we regulate the taking of human life for the punishment of a crime?
• What’s the difference between justice and mercy?
• Do we tend to overemphasize the therapeutic in this conversation?
• What is your view on this?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Genesis 9, Exodus 21, Romans 13:1-4
• Training the Church Ministry Cohort
• C. S. Lewis and the Humanitarian Theory of Punishment
• “The Politics of Jesus” by John Howder Yoder
• Knowing Faith Has Therapeutic Language Invaded The Church?

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Courtney Reissig to discuss how to trust the church again after hurt.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What was your goal in writing this book?
• What is your book about?
• How have you seen the Gospel of John help people process not abandoning the faith after hurt?
• What encouragement can you offer to people who are unsure whether they can trust the church?
• Are there people in your ministry coming from church hurt?
• Where did you experience restoration from looking at Jesus in your own journey?

Guest Bio:

Courtney Reissig is a writer and bible teacher living in Little Rock, Arkansas. She is the proud mom of four sons, happy wife to Daniel, and author of The Accidental Feminist, Glory in the Ordinary, Teach Me to Feel and Someone to Believe In. Her writing has appeared in the Washington Post, The Gospel Coalition, and Christianity Today (among other publications). When she is not writing or wrangling kids, she enjoys running and a relaxing Friday night. Her family belongs to Immanuel Baptist Church. You can follow her on Twitter or Instagram (@courtneyreissig).

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• John 20:3, Hebrews 13:8, John 15, Psalm 1, John 9, Ezekiel 34:2
• ”Someone to Believe In” by Courtney Reissig

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss how Christians should think about burial, aging, and death.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• How does our culture view death?
• Where is death in the Bible?
• When you think of burial in the Bible, what comes to mind?
• What is the norm in Jewish society and culture?
• How should this influence how Christians think about burial?
• Does the mode of burial matter?
• What method of burial do we want for ourselves?
• For fun: If we were pagans, what funeral would we have?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Genesis 50:25, Genesis 35:19-20, John 11
• “Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters in the End” by Atul Gawande

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the State of Theology survey, why it is so concerning, and what we can do next.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What is the state of theology survey?
• What is an evangelical according to this survey?
• What is the Lifeway report?
• What is a common discipleship strategy used by churches?
• What is a roadblock to making disciples?
• What are some things that are concerning in the report?
• Why is it a problem that people don’t think the Holy Spirit is a person?
• How the difference between interpretation and orthodoxy?
• Why is this so concerning?
• What do we do?
• Do you have a definition of disciple?
• Why do scope and sequence matter?
• How does dissonance play a role in discipleship?
• Why do we believe so much in the Training the Church Ministry Cohort?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• 1 Corinthians 2, Genesis 3, Romans 5
• State of Theology Report
• Lifeway Pastors’ Views on Discipleship
• “Deep Discipleship” by JT English
• Deep Discipleship Curriculum
• Training the Church Ministry Cohort

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss what predestination and election mean.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Can you remember how you were introduced to these doctrines?
• What is reformed theology?
• What is predestination? What is election? Are they synonyms? 
• Where do we find them in scripture?
• What have been faithful approaches to these doctrines?
• Who do you disagree with on this, but you respect the way they articulate their view?
• What is determinism?
• What is the point? Why should we care about this?

Helpful Definitions:

• Predestination: God has ordained specific things to happen.
• Election: God administers His saving benefits and/or judgment.
• Pelagius: Man is not stained by sin; humanity is neutral before God.
• Augustine: Humans are dead in their sin and saved by grace.
• Arminianism: Humans are dead in their sin and allowed to choose saving grace.
• Determinism: God is so other than, there is no meaningful place for human agency. 
• Compatibilism: God directs our desires, and humans act in accordance with our desires.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Romans 9, Genesis 1-2, Genesis 12, Ephesians 1, Romans 5-6, Proverbs 16:9, Romans 8, John 6, Matthew 13, John 10
• Deep Discipleship Program
• Ligonier Ministries
• Renewing Your Mind
• Acts 29
• T4G
• “Let the Nations Be Glad!” by John Piper
• BFM 2000

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley have a conversation about what happens to animals (and Jen’s pugs) when they die.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What happens to animals when they die?
• How are humans and animals different?
• How does any creaturely thing make it into heaven?
• Are animals in need of redemption?
• Does the fall impact animals?
• Do animals have a soul?
• What is a soul? Do only humans have souls?
• How do we give the right level of importance to things that have breath?
• Will any animals be brought into the new heaven and the new earth?

Helpful Definitions:

• Psychosomatic Unity: Humans are unions of body and soul.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Training the Church Ministry Cohort

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Season 16 of the Knowing Faith podcast begins on January 15th! In this episode, Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley give you a preview of what is to come in Season 16.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What are we doing this season?
• What are some of the topics we will cover?
• How can I submit questions for you to cover?
• If you could put your cohost on the hotseat for any question, what would it be?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Apple Podcast Review
• Training the Church Patreon

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer questions submitted by listeners!

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Can you talk to the value or lack thereof of being a credential holder in any particular fellowship or denomination? Are there any secondary beliefs your denomination holds that you don’t agree with?
• Why is it good that denominations have core confessions?
• Do you think there will be salt in the new heavens and the new earth since there is no sea or no tears?
• Jen, what is your favorite classical music?
• Can you share thoughts on what your church requires of members? How does your church handle discipline?
• I have heard that Old Testament prophecies have an immediate fulfillment and another fulfillment in the future. Can you explain that?
• Is any of the content in the Deep Discipleship Program in conflict with Lutheran beliefs? (or other denominations)
• After the episode on therapeutic language, I wonder if you are going to talk about the fascination with “New Age” practices?
• What is going on with Women’s Bible Study? How do you evaluate curriculum?
• Did Jesus ever make mistakes during his earthly life?
• Does Jesus display the imcommunicable attributes?
• Is the incarnation itself an accommodation?
• Did God the Father love the Son at the moment of the crucifixion?
• Do you have resources for the “false stories” you talk about on the podcast?
• What would you tell someone about tithing who is in deep debt?
• Should we as Christians celebrate the feasts given to Israel?
• How is orthodoxy determined? How do we explain differences among believers?
• Where would you start a scope & sequence for college students and young adults?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Deep Discipleship Program
• BFM 2000
• Westminster Confession
• Nicene Creed
• The Creed of Chalcedon
• Apostles Creed
• Handel’s Messiah
• Vivaldi The Four Seasons
• Knowing Faith: Has Therapeutic Language Invaded the Church?
• Jen Wilkin's Instagram Highlight of bible Study
• Knowing Faith: Does God have Emotions with Ronni Kurtz
• “Remember and Rehearse” by JT English
• “Formed for Fellowship” by Kyle Worley

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley answer the question of whether a Christian can lose their salvation.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Do Christians often struggle with this question?
• What are the things that can make us doubt salvation?
• What kind of encouragement do we give people when reading and evaluating the warning passages in Hebrews?
• Can Christians grow indifferent to the seriousness of sin?
• Is there a corporate nature to this, or are these warnings supposed to be personal?
• What is the current thought process in the church?
• If a faithful Christian comes to you and asks if it is possible for them to lose their salvation, how do you respond?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Deep Discipleship Program
• Proverbs 31, Hebrews 2:1, Hebrews 6:4-8, Hebrews 10:26, John 8, Romans 5-8, Matthew 11:28-30, Matthew 16

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Kyle Worley is joined by Samuel Bierig to answer the question, “What does Jesus have to do with Proverbs?”

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• What does Jesus have to do with Proverbs?
• Is it too simplistic to tell a Christian to just go do the things Proverbs says?

Guest Bio:

Samuel Bierig serves as Vice President of Undergraduate Studies, Dean of Spurgeon College, and Associate Professor of Biblical and Systematic Theology at Spurgeon College at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Sam serves as lead pastor at Gashland Baptist Church. Sam completed his Ph.D. in biblical theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, where he wrote his dissertation on hermeneutics and the interpretation of the book of Proverbs. He is happily married to Mallory, and they have four children: Abby, Levi, Owen, and Piper.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Proverbs 7
• “Proverbs: Walking in the Way of Christ” by Samuel Bierig

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Kyle Worley is joined by Matt Boswell to have a conversation about worship and hymns in the local church.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

• Why should we value the congregational voice of the church?
• What’s the difference between a psalm? A hymn? And a spiritual song?
• Are hymns just old songs?
• What’s your favorite hymn? Why?
• What do you tell the person who says, “I don’t like the singing? Just give me some preaching.”
• How do you determine what songs you sing in your church?
• What’s your opinion on songs that emerge from churches or ministries where you’d disagree with the teaching of that ministry’s theology?
• Tell me about the Sing hymnal - why a new hymnal and why now?

Guest Bio:
Matt Boswell is a hymn-writer and pastor of The Trails Church in Celina, Texas. He also serves as Professor of Worship Ministries at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and leads Doxology & Theology, a ministry focused on corporate worship.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• Ephesians 5:19, Colossians 1:15-20, Philippians 2:6-11, John 13:35
• Hark the Herald Angels Sing
• Be Thou my Vision
• “The Sing! Hymnal” by Keith Getty and Kristyn Getty

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