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  • 34 minutes 52 seconds
    How to Get Your Finances Ready for a Crisis and Tackle Debt Smarter

    Learn how to prepare financially for uncertain times and balance debt payoff with saving for emergencies and retirement.

    How much emergency cash should you keep on hand? Should you focus on paying off debt or saving for retirement first? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss financial preparedness and debt payoff strategies to help you feel more financially secure. They begin with a discussion on personal and financial resilience, covering tips on keeping emergency cash, building a support network, and taking proactive financial actions.

    Then, Sean and Elizabeth talk with listener Michaela, a 24-year-old paralegal, about balancing debt repayment with savings and investing. They explore the debt snowball vs. debt avalanche methods, how much to save for emergencies, and why starting retirement savings early — even while in debt — can pay off in the long run.

    NerdWallet’s guide to how to prepare for your next emergency: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/how-to-prepare-for-your-next-emergency 


    How to open a Roth IRA: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/how-and-where-to-open-a-roth-ira 


    In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: emergency cash savings, how much cash to keep at home, personal finance preparedness, financial resilience, budgeting for emergencies, how to build an emergency fund, debt snowball vs. debt avalanche, should I pay off debt or save, how to start investing in your 20s, best budgeting methods, 50/30/20 budget, zero-based budgeting, how to save for retirement early, Roth IRA vs. 401(k), why you need an emergency fund, financial security tips, community and financial support, mutual aid groups, debt repayment strategies, credit card debt payoff, investing while in debt, how to budget better, personal loan repayment, car loan interest rates, financial planning for young professionals, cash vs. credit in an emergency, preparing for a crisis financially, high-interest debt payoff, how to avoid debt traps, savings vs. debt payoff balance, and financial habits to build in your 20s.


    To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email [email protected].


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    3 March 2025, 8:10 am
  • 32 minutes 54 seconds
    Egg Prices, Greenwashing, and Smarter Ways to Invest

    Learn what’s causing egg prices to rise so dramatically, then explore ethical investing and how to manage savings wisely.


    Are ESG investments really as ethical as they claim to be? What’s the smartest way to put extra savings to work? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss ethical investing and savings strategies to help you make informed financial decisions. They begin with a discussion of the rising cost of eggs with NerdWallet senior news writer Anna Helhoski, who explores the surprising reasons behind skyrocketing prices. They break down how the ongoing avian flu crisis, supply chain disruptions, and shifting farming regulations are affecting egg availability and pricing, as well as why some cage-free eggs are now cheaper than conventional ones and what consumers can do to save on groceries.


    Then, Smart Money listener Maddie joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss how to balance savings and investments. They cover how much to keep in a high-yield savings account, whether investing is a good alternative to paying off student loans, and how to plan for future financial goals like college savings.


    User NerdWallet’s free calculator to understand how much life insurance you need: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/insurance/how-much-life-insurance-do-i-need 


    In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: ethical investing, ESG investing, socially responsible investing, greenwashing in investing, best ESG funds, how to invest ethically, socially conscious investing, investment funds for social good, sustainable investing, high-yield savings, savings vs investing, financial security, best high-yield savings accounts, student loans vs investing, public service loan forgiveness, financial literacy, emergency fund, how much to keep in savings, Roth IRA vs 529, college savings plans, best 529 accounts, investing for the future, financial independence, socially responsible funds, investment strategies, passive investing, long-term investing, financial planning, personal finance tips, how to manage savings, how to start investing.


    To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email [email protected].


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    27 February 2025, 8:10 am
  • 29 minutes 5 seconds
    Behavioral Finance Mistakes That Hurt Your Portfolio and What “Good” Returns Look Like

    Learn how behavioral biases impact your investments and what a “good” return from your portfolio looks like.


    How do behavioral biases affect your investing decisions? What kind of returns should you expect from your investments? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss common psychological traps investors fall into and how to set realistic expectations for long-term portfolio growth. They begin by speaking with Behavioral Financial Advisor Yohance Harrison, founder of Money Script Wealth Management, about behavioral finance, with insights on anchoring bias, recency bias, and how emotional decision-making can hurt your investments. They also discuss strategies to counteract these biases, how long-term planning can override emotional investing, why patience is key to market success, and how robo-advisors can help you stick to your plan.


    Then, investing Nerd Sam Taube joins Sean and Elizabeth to answer a listener’s question about whether their investment returns are on track. They discuss what a "good" return looks like, how different types of mutual funds impact performance, and when to consider adjusting your investment strategy. 


    7 Best Mutual Funds for February 2025 and How to Invest: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/how-to-invest-in-mutual-funds 


    In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: behavioral finance, investment biases, anchoring bias, recency bias, emotional investing, stock market psychology, long-term investing, short-term investing, market volatility, mutual fund returns, index fund returns, S&P 500 average return, risk tolerance, investment performance, robo-advisors, automated investing, when to sell stocks, how to manage investments, financial anxiety and investing, how to pick mutual funds, investment education, investment portfolio strategy, when to rebalance your portfolio, how to diversify investments, investment growth expectations, financial planning, how to avoid bad investments, investment risk management, and active vs passive investing.


    To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email [email protected].


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    24 February 2025, 8:10 am
  • 1 minute 29 seconds
    Welcome to NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

    Hosts Sean Pyles, CFP®, and Elizabeth Ayoola are here to answer your biggest financial questions and help you take control of your money.


    On NerdWallet’s Smart Money Podcast, our trusted finance experts break down real-world money challenges, giving you clear, actionable strategies to build wealth and reach your financial goals.


    Each episode cuts through the noise with expert insights on budgeting, saving, investing, home buying, credit cards, and more—so you can make smarter financial decisions with confidence.


    By the end of every episode, you’ll walk away with the knowledge and tools to manage your money wisely, plan for life’s big moments, and set Future You up for success.


    Follow the show now and start making smarter money moves!

    24 February 2025, 7:50 am
  • 30 minutes 18 seconds
    Marriage and Money Myths — and Why the Economy Feels 'Off'

    Understand the financial pros and cons of marriage, from taxes to credit scores, and how it impacts your future.


    Is the economy as bad as people think it is? How does your spouse’s credit and debt affect your finances? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss marriage and money to help you understand the financial implications of tying the knot. But first, NerdWallet Senior News Writer Anna Helhoski interviews Eugene Ludwig, chair of the Ludwig Institute for Shared Economic Prosperity, about why traditional economic data may not accurately reflect the financial struggles of middle- and low-income Americans. They explore how unemployment statistics overlook underemployment, why inflation feels worse for lower-income earners, and how policymakers could improve economic measurement tools.


    Then, NerdWallet Personal Finance Writer Lauren Schwahn joins Sean and Elizabeth to break down the financial side of marriage. They discuss how taxes work for married couples, whether getting married affects your credit score, and how to protect your finances when one partner has significant debt. They also cover estate planning advantages, health care decision-making, and strategies for managing money as a couple with different financial backgrounds.


    How to dispute credit report errors to get mistakes or outdated information off your credit history: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/dispute-credit-report 


    In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: marriage and money, financial benefits of marriage, marriage tax penalties, combining finances, marriage effect on credit score, debt and marriage, should I get married for financial reasons, estate planning for couples, joint bank accounts pros and cons, student loans and marriage, how to protect finances in marriage, marrying someone with bad credit, mortgage and marriage, how to talk about money before marriage, economic perception vs reality, cost of living vs wages, how inflation affects real wages, and CPI accuracy.


    To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email [email protected].


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    20 February 2025, 8:10 am
  • 37 minutes 22 seconds
    Why Traditional Budgeting Fails and What’s Missing from Your Money Plan

    Learn how values-based spending can help you curb impulse buys, avoid financial blindspots, and rethink your money habits


    How can you stop impulse spending? How do you know if you’re making good financial choices? This episode explores mindful spending and financial habits that may be holding you back. Personal finance Nerd Kim Palmer kicks off the episode with a discussion on spending habits with guests Jen Smith and Jill Sirianni, hosts of the Frugal Friends podcast and authors of the new book, Buy What You Love Without Going Broke. They explore the pitfalls of extreme budgeting, how values-based spending leads to financial confidence, the importance of aligning spending with what truly matters, strategies to curb impulse purchases, and how to reframe financial mistakes without shame.


    Then, hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss financial blindspots with Jeremy, a listener who works as a talent agent in New York City. They dive into how to evaluate whether you're on track with savings, when to prioritize your time over income, and how to address financial gaps you might not be aware of. Jeremy shares his detailed approach to budgeting and saving while expressing uncertainty about whether he's missing something in his financial plan. They explore retirement savings options beyond a 401(k), the importance of disability insurance, estate planning considerations, and how to balance long-term financial security with enjoying money in the present.


    Are you on track to save enough for retirement? Use NerdWallet’s retirement calculator to check your progress, see how much retirement income you'll have and estimate how much more you should save: https://www.nerdwallet.com/calculator/retirement-calculator 


    In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: impulse spending, financial blindspots, mindful spending, values-based spending, budgeting tips, budgeting strategies, spending guilt, financial regrets, smart money habits, how to stop emotional spending, personal finance mistakes, how to balance saving and spending, financial security, how to make a financial plan, retirement savings, estate planning, disability insurance, high-yield savings, robo-advisor investing, early retirement planning, how to save for retirement, and brokerage account alternatives.


    To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email [email protected].


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    17 February 2025, 8:10 am
  • 37 minutes 20 seconds
    Cross-Country Moving Tips and What a CFPB Shutdown Could Mean for You

    Learn what a CFBP shutdown could mean for consumers, plus how to financially manage a cross-country move — including whether to rent or sell your home.


    What happens if the CFPB is shut down? Should you sell or rent out your home when moving to a new city? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss the financial decisions involved in relocating, including managing moving expenses and deciding whether to keep or sell a home. But first, NerdWallet Senior News Writer Anna Helhoski joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss the potential shutdown of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and its impact on consumer rights. Anna interviews Chuck Bell, the program director for advocacy at Consumer Reports, about the CFPB’s role in protecting consumers and what its potential closure could mean for financial regulations and consumer rights.


    Then, NerdWallet writer Lisa Green joins Sean and Elizabeth to talk to David, a listener with questions around the financial and logistical challenges of a cross-country move. They discuss key considerations for renting versus selling a home, the financial implications of becoming a long-distance landlord, and strategies for covering a down payment on a new home. The Nerds also share insights on budgeting for moving costs, including how to decide between hiring professional movers, using a service like PODS, or selling furniture before relocating.


    Learn about down payments and calculate how much to put down on a house: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/mortgages/down-payment-calculator


    In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: cross-country move, sell or rent your home, moving costs, budget for moving, moving expenses, renting out your home, financial planning for moving, real estate investments, property management, home equity loans, HELOC, down payment options, mortgage planning, financial decisions, house rental income, home selling process, cost of moving, moving truck vs movers, PODS vs U-Haul, rental property management, tax implications of renting, home value appreciation, moving to a new state, moving savings tips, renting vs owning, budgeting for relocation, moving with kids, tax write-offs for landlords, credit score for mortgage, home selling costs, home loan options, financial impact of moving, travel expenses, best way to move furniture, and moving insurance.


    To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email [email protected].


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    13 February 2025, 8:10 am
  • 29 minutes 54 seconds
    Debt in the Dating World and Retirement Planning for Entrepreneurs and Business Owners

    Learn how debt affects dating, plus expert advice on retirement planning for business owners navigating succession and savings.


    When does debt become a red flag in the dating world? How can business owners best plan for retirement? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss a new NerdWallet survey revealing how financial responsibility impacts romantic relationships, and they explore how different types of debt — like student loans versus credit card debt—affect dating prospects. Plus, they discuss why financial transparency matters, and they give you some steps to take if you want to become more financially appealing to a potential partner.


    Then, Sean and co-host Sara Rathner talk with an organic produce farmer, Tenzin, about how to plan for retirement, particularly as a business owner. They cover key retirement planning benchmarks, when to shift from reinvesting in a business to personal savings, and succession strategies for business owners looking to transition out of an active role. 


    Read about the findings of NerdWallet’s new survey on debt in dating: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/data-undateable-debt 


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    In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: how much debt is too much, financial red flags, debt and relationships, money and dating, financial green flags, how to talk about money in relationships, paying off debt before marriage, retirement planning for small business owners, small business succession planning, selling a family business, how to retire as a business owner, when to stop reinvesting in your business, how to transition a business to employees, retirement savings benchmarks, financial planning for entrepreneurs, choosing a financial planner, business transition strategies, how to retire without selling your business, business exit strategies, small business succession options, employee ownership models, planning for retirement as a farmer, financial planning for farmers, debt and dating statistics, and money habits in relationships.


    To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email [email protected].


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    10 February 2025, 8:10 am
  • 31 minutes 1 second
    Will New Tariffs and Tax Rules Cost You? (Plus: Travel Rewards & Roth IRA Tips)

    Get the latest on tariffs, federal spending and the CFPB shake-up — plus answers to your travel credit card and Roth IRA questions.


    What tariffs has President Trump implemented? What’s the best travel credit card for earning rewards and perks? How do you open a Roth IRA and choose investments? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss the latest financial news, including new tariffs, federal spending changes, and what’s happening with the CFPB under the Trump administration. Senior news writer Anna Helhoski joins them to discuss of how tariffs may raise prices for consumers, how government funding uncertainties could affect personal finances, and what to know about potential changes to financial protections. Then, host Sara Rathner joins Sean to answer a “lightning round” of listener questions, including questions about travel credit cards and Roth IRAs. They cover top travel credit cards and their perks, how to decide if a travel rewards card is right for you, and what to consider when opening a Roth IRA.


    NerdWallet’s roundup of the best brokers for beginner investors: https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/investing/online-brokers-for-beginners 


    In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: best travel credit cards, how to open a Roth IRA, travel rewards cards, Roth IRA step-by-step, tariffs impact on prices, federal spending freeze, CFPB changes, financial protections, Chase Sapphire Reserve review, American Express Gold Card benefits, best credit card for travel perks, how to choose a credit card, travel credit card comparison, investment accounts for kids, best brokerage accounts, best 529 college savings plan, credit freeze explained, credit card points vs. cash back, pros and cons of travel credit cards, Roth IRA tax benefits, how to pick a Roth IRA provider, best robo-advisors for retirement, what is a custodial account, UTMA vs. 529 plan, how to invest for grandkids, personal finance news, money tips, financial literacy, best tax-advantaged accounts, step-by-step Roth IRA guide, best credit card welcome bonuses, tax implications of travel rewards, how tariffs affect your wallet, how to budget for travel, how to avoid credit card debt, and how to maximize credit card rewards.


    To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email [email protected].


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    6 February 2025, 8:10 am
  • 2 minutes 35 seconds
    Introducing Smart Travel: Upgrade Your Getaways, a NerdWallet Podcast

    Do you need a vacation from planning your vacation? Before you budget, learn how to get the most out of your travel dollars with Smart Travel, debuting Wednesday, February 12.


    NerdWallet’s trusted travel experts, Sally French and Meghan Coyle, are here to help your travel dollars work even harder. 


    But the travel Nerds don’t just make recommendations; they break down the latest travel

    details, exploring the pros and cons of specific strategies, practical tools, and tactics. Dive deep

    with the experts as they lay out all the options so you can finally plan that dream vacation.


    So put your seat in its full upright position, buckle up, and let’s help that travel budget take you places you've only dreamed about.


    Follow Smart Travel on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smart-travel-upgrade-your-getaways/id1794403843


    Follow Smart Travel on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3O8C6tHZGMzEMrlW2Lavw0?si=V3zpJB3VRhSG4W78GU_KsQ

    5 February 2025, 4:46 pm
  • 32 minutes 34 seconds
    The Price Isn’t Right: How to Stop Overspending and Stay Debt-Free

    Break free from debt cycles and rethink your spending habits with tips on no-buy challenges and financial therapy.


    How can you stop falling into a cycle of paying off debt, only to rack it back up again? What is a no-buy year, and how can it help you control your spending? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss strategies for breaking unhealthy spending patterns and staying out of debt for good. They begin with a conversation about the benefits of a no-buy year with NerdWallet personal finance writer Amanda Barroso, who shares tips on setting clear spending rules, resisting impulse purchases, and tracking progress to reinforce financial discipline.


    Then, Sean welcomes co-host Sara Rathner and personal finance Nerd Melissa Lambarena to dive into a listener’s struggle with recurring credit card debt. They discuss the psychological factors behind compulsive spending, the benefits of financial therapy, and practical steps to curb overspending, including strategies for budgeting, limiting credit card use, and practicing delayed gratification.


    Read NerdWallet’s write-up of the best no balance transfer fee credit cards to help you compare your options for ways to climb out of debt: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/credit-cards/best-no-balance-transfer-fee-credit-cards 


    In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: credit card debt, how to stop overspending, no-buy year, budgeting tips, financial therapy, money habits, debt cycle, breaking bad money habits, impulse spending, debt-free living, financial discipline, how to stop using credit cards, saving money strategies, debt management, mindful spending, financial goals, spending freeze, personal finance tips, credit card traps, emotional spending, how to budget, debt repayment, how to stay out of debt, no-spend challenge, frugal living, debt-free journey, saving money on shopping, financial accountability, budget planner, financial self-control, spending detox, credit card debt help, how to stop living paycheck to paycheck, best budgeting methods, overcoming debt, financial self-awareness, debt-free motivation, and how to track spending habits.


    To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email [email protected].


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    3 February 2025, 8:10 am
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