Regular guest and Accredited Investigative Genetic Genealogist (AIGG) Cairenn Binder speaks with us about a current event that has shaken up the world of Forensic Investigative Genetic Genealogy (FIGG/IGG) world: an update in the language of Ancestry.com’s TOS regarding access to historical records and family trees. 

Many investigators and genealogists feel this may have a major impact on cold cases, and on work already in progress to identify John and Jane Does/unidentified human remains and suspects in open homicide investigations. 

NYT article we mention 

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Danny Harris, a 55-year-old Air National Guard veteran, was murdered in his Tennessee apartment in 2007. Andrew Wayne Hayes, a man with an intellectual disability, confessed after a 27-hour interrogation and was sentenced to life in prison.

But podcaster Stephanie Tinsley believes the wrong person is in prison. Her investigation "Everything They Missed" has uncovered confession contradictions, untested DNA evidence, and investigative failures pointing to other suspects. Stephanie discusses her real-time investigation and her theory about who really killed Danny Harris, her introduction to the Tennessee Innocence Project, and the world of wrongful convictions.

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Mary Shotwell Little vanished from Lenox Square mall in Atlanta on October 14, 1965. The 25-year-old newlywed's car was found the next day with blood evidence and unexplained mileage, launching one of the city's most intensive searches.

Now, a decade-long investigation by civilian researchers has uncovered previously unseen FBI files and identified new leads in Mary's cold case. The new documentary THE VANISHING: The 60-Year Unsolved Disappearance of Mary Shotwell Little reveals their discoveries and explores fresh theories about what happened to the Atlanta bank secretary.

Season 24 of The Fall Line covers missing persons, unsolved homicides, and unresolved deaths across the United States.

If you have information about Mary Shotwell Little's disappearance or the murder of Diane Shields: Contact Atlanta Police Department Criminal Investigations Division at (404) 546-4236 or Atlanta CrimeStoppers at (404) 577-TIPS (8477).

The Vanishing: https://www.scadshow.com/events/vanishing-60-year-unsolved-disappearance-mary-shotwell-little-2025-11-12

Jessica Noll's Five Roses: https://www.11alive.com/article/news/gone-cold-5-roses-2-womens-twist-of-fate-and-their-eternal-connection-to-a-citys-innocence-lost-forever/85-1654ea38-52b3-4d95-9f0b-32e5060b0bd2

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We continue our coverage of the cold case of Eric Nelams, and his family's fight for justice. Army veteran Eric Nelams was shot and killed outside his Phenix City, Alabama home in 2003, just days after refusing to take blame for an embezzlement scheme. His family believes the timing was no coincidence—and 22 years later, his homicide case remains cold.

Season 24 of The Fall Line covers missing persons, unsolved homicides, and unresolved deaths across the United States.

If you have information about Eric Nelams' murder: Call Crime Stoppers of Central Alabama at 334-215-STOP (7867). There is a $15,000 reward.

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Army veteran and father Eric Nelams, 32, was shot and killed outside his Phenix City, Alabama home on September 26, 2003. Multiple suspects ambushed Eric in his carport while he was leaving for work in what police believe was a planned attack.

Twenty-two years later, Eric's murder remains unsolved. His family believes someone in the interconnected communities of Phenix City, Columbus, and Atlanta knows what happened that morning and why Eric was targeted for killing—and they've worked for decades to finally get justice for Eric.

Season 24 of The Fall Line covers missing persons, unsolved homicides, and unresolved deaths across the United States.

If you have information about Eric Nelams' murder: Call Crime Stoppers of Central Alabama at 334-215-STOP (7867). There is a $15,000 reward.

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The Toya family continues seeking answers after discovering evidence they believe was overlooked—including another woman's ID found in Shawna's car and missing rent money.

MMIWR/MMIP advocate Darlene Gomez discusses systemic issues in Indigenous victim investigations and cold case challenges. The family shares how they honor Shawna's memory while continuing their fight for justice in this unsolved death investigation.

Season 24 of The Fall Line covers missing persons, unsolved homicides, and unresolved deaths across the United States.

If you have any information that you feel could aid in a reinvestigation of Shawna Toya's death and the circumstances surrounding it: reach out to Darlene Gomez at the Law Offices of Darlene Gomez https://dargomezlaw.com or the Albuquerque Police Department at 505-843-STOP.

Darlene Gomez's non profit: https://www.mmiwr.org/

MMIWR Indian Country: https://mmiwrindiancountry.com/

Medicine Will Ride: https://www.medicinewillride.com/

Mother Nation: https://www.mothernation.org/

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Jemez Pueblo artist Shawna Toya was found unresponsive in her car at an Albuquerque, New Mexico park on August 1, 2021, and was pronounced dead at the scene. Her family discovered evidence—another person's ID in Shawna's vehicle, missing rent money, and undocumented trauma on her body—that they believe warrants further investigation.

Our coverage features interviews with Shawna's mother, renowned traditional potter Geraldine Toya, and MMIWR/MMIP advocate and lawyer Darlene Gomez as the family continues seeking answers about her death.

Season 24 of The Fall Line covers missing persons, unsolved homicides, and unresolved deaths across the United States.

If you have any information that you feel could aid in a reinvestigation of Shawna Toya's death and the circumstances surrounding it: reach out to Darlene Gomez at the Law Offices of Darlene Gomez https://dargomezlaw.com or the Albuquerque Police Department at 505-843-STOP.

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Forensic anthropologists Dr. Amy Michael and Dr. Jen Bengtson reveal a critical gap in missing-persons databases and unidentified-remains cases. No-body homicide victims—those identified as murdered, but without recovered remains—may not appear in forensic identification databases, creating problems for cold-case investigations and forensic anthropology work.

Their research examines how missing persons cases, forensic databases, and unidentified human-remains investigations may be disconnected, which can in turn affect victim identification efforts nationwide.

Season 24 of The Fall Line covers missing persons, unsolved homicides, and unresolved deaths across the United States.

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Part 2 of our re-release of our interview with Enzo Yaksic. Atypical Homicide researcher Enzo Yaksic shares his perspective on cultural myths regarding the "average" serial killer, what—and who—has skewed our perceptions of serial killers, and why it's so important that experts, law enforcement, and consumers begin to understand what serial murder is, and how serial murderers operate in the modern age.

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You never really know someone…especially online. In today's world, the power of influence can be the quickest path to money and fame, and it often ends in ruin. These are the stories of the world's most insidious Scamfluencers. And we are their prey. On Wondery's new weekly series, join co-hosts Scaachi Koul and Sarah Hagi as they unpack epic stories of deception from the worlds of social media, fashion, finance, health, and wellness. These influencers claim to be everything from charismatic healers to trusted financial insiders to experts in dating. They cast spells over millions. Why do we believe them, and how does our culture allow them to thrive? From Black Swan Murder to a fake social media influencer to an audacious Hollywood Ponzi schemer, each season will take the listener along the twists and turns, the impact on victims, and what's left when the facade falls away.

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A re-release of our classic interview with Enzo Yaksic. Part two will be out tomorrow. Atypical Homicide researcher Enzo Yaksic shares his perspective on cultural myths regarding the "average" serial killer, what—and who—has skewed our perceptions of serial killers, and why it's so important that experts, law enforcement, and consumers begin to understand what serial murder is, and how serial murderers operate in the modern age.

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