How to Be Fine

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Half advice show, half cultural critique, and one wild ride through the world of wellness. Join podcast besties Kristen Meinzer and Jolenta Greenberg as they dissect the inner workings of the betterment industry - and offer up some advice along the way. Their goal? To help get you a little closer to fine. Kristen and Jolenta's first show By the Book is on this feed. To hear back episodes of By the Book, just scroll down!

  • 48 minutes 35 seconds
    Free the Situation with Mary Houlihan

    Jolenta is joined by Mary Houlihan (The Mary Houlihan Show) to discuss a subject near and dear to Mary’s heart, The Jersey Shore. From the cast’s early feral days to their adult journeys through sobriety and marriage, Mary helps us understand the characters in this great American drama. And the two do a deep dive on Mike ‘The Situation’ Sorrentino’s redemption arc, aka his release from prison.

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    SOURCES

    • The Jersey Shore and Jersey Shore: Family Vacation - Paramount+
    • Michael ‘The Situation’ Sorrentino, Marc Sorrentino Sentenced to Federal Prison on Tax Charges, US Department of Justice Archives
    • ‘Jersey Shore’ premiered 10 years ago on MTV. Here’s why the global phenomenon could go on forever, nj.com
    • Jersey Shore: An Oral History, Vulture

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    15 January 2026, 5:00 am
  • 40 minutes 3 seconds
    Craig Conover: Portrait of a Southern Artist

    This week Jolenta takes a look at the character of Craig Conover from Southern Charm and how he fits into the Artist Archetype. And you know she gets into that evil alter ego and how the archetype shows up in mythology and a bunch of other reality shows.

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    SOURCES

    • Dictionary of Classical Mythology, by Pierre Grimal
    • Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes, by Edith Hamilton
    • 45 Master Characters, by Victoria Lynn Schmidt
    • Bravo Shows and After Shows - Peacock


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    8 January 2026, 5:00 am
  • 28 minutes 37 seconds
    New Year, New Hot Topics

    Ring in the new year the classic way - with hot takes on hot topics. For a New Year’s treat, Jolenta is serving takes hot enough to warm your heart on a cold winter’s day. All things reality are discussed, from Southern Charm to Sister Wives.


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    1 January 2026, 5:00 am
  • 34 minutes 1 second
    Book Report: Rich As F*ck by Amanda Frances (RHOBH)

    As a holiday gift to you, Jolenta returns to her podcasting roots with a deep dive on a self-help book. She read Rich As F*ck, so you don’t have to - the money manifesting manual by the newest Real Housewife of Beverly Hills, Amanda Frances. Does the book offer any genuinely useful advice? Does it give scam vibes the same way Amanda does on TV? Let’s find out!


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    25 December 2025, 5:00 am
  • 37 minutes 22 seconds
    Kathy Hilton: The Real Recluse of Beverly Hills

    Jolenta does a deep dive on The Recluse archetype and her evil twin, The Warlock. Turns out Kathy Hilton from The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills has a lot of reclusive tendencies, but watch yourself because you don’t want her warlock side to rear its ugly head.

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    SOURCES:

    • Mythos: A Retelling of the Myths of Ancient Greece, by Stephen Fry
    • Greek Mythology: Gods and Heroes Brought to Life, By Robert Garland
    • The Greek Myths, by Robert Graves
    • Dictionary of Classical Mythology, by Pierre Grimal
    • Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes, by Edith Hamilton
    • 45 Master Characters, by Victoria Lynn Schmidt
    • Bravo Shows and After Shows - Peacock

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    18 December 2025, 6:30 am
  • 1 hour 17 minutes
    When the NYPD Raided the SLC with Bestie Approved

    Jolenta is joined by Travis Rhoden from Bestie Approved for a crossover episode!  In honor of Jen Shah being released from prison, the two recap the infamous sprinter van raid from season 2 of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Travis used to be a finance bro, so he has some interesting takes on money laundering. And many iconic moments are covered: Mary calling Whitney “little girl,” the beginning of Meredith branding herself as a lady who loves baths, and Whitney Rose thinking Homeland Security is a pranking her.


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    11 December 2025, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 10 minutes
    RHONY Leg-acy with Gibson Johns

    Jolenta is joined by the wonderful Gibson Johns (Gabbing with Gib) to talk about Aviva Drescher’s infamous leg toss from The Real Housewives of New York. They get into the backstory, dish on ghost writing rumors, and wax poetic about obviously self produced moments.


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    SOURCES

    • RHONY Legacy - Peacock
    • Luann de Lesseps Doubles Down: Carole Radziwill Used a Ghostwriter for Her Memoir - Radio Andy , SiriusXM
    • Aviva Drescher: I Threw My Leg on RHONY to “Earn My Keep” - US Magazine


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    4 December 2025, 5:00 am
  • 39 minutes 35 seconds
    Hot Mess-terpiece Hot Topics

    For a Thanksgiving Day treat, Jolenta is doing a roundup of some of the latest reality TV hot topics and giving her hot takes. She covers everything from Kandi Burruss’s divorce to Kody Brown’s multiple divorces. Please note: Topics other than divorce will be discussed, such as The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, The Real  Housewives of Orange County, and more.


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    27 November 2025, 5:00 am
  • 40 minutes 43 seconds
    Dorinda Medley Meddles with Mysticism

    The Mystic is a fun woo-woo archetype, but do not piss her off or else you’ll meet her evil side: the Betrayer.  How do each of these beauties show up in reality TV? Jolenta thinks Dorinda Medley from the Real Housewives of New York is the perfect example of the Mystic/Betrayer dichotomy.

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    SOURCES:

    • Mythos: A Retelling of the Myths of Ancient Greece, by Stephen Fry
    • Greek Mythology: Gods and Heroes Brought to Life, by Robert Garland
    • The Greek Myths, by Robert Graves
    • Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes, by Edith Hamilton
    • 45 Master Characters, by Victoria Lynn Schmidt
    • Bravo Shows - Peacock

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    20 November 2025, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 17 seconds
    Vanderpump Rules Slaps with Mary Payne Gilbert

    The wonderful Mary Payne Gilbert (Pink Shade) joins Jolenta to do a deep dive on the infamous Vanderpump Rules “slap” scene between Stassi Schroeder and Kristin Douse. And the two discuss why we’re so drawn to reality TV that showcases anti-aspirational living.


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    Sources:

    Vanderpump Rules - Peacock

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    13 November 2025, 5:00 am
  • 37 minutes 41 seconds
    Will Heather Gay Save Us?

    She’s intense, she’s driven, and she might be here to save us all… or burn it all down. This week Jolenta draws parallels between the Savior/Destroyer archetype and Heather Gay’s journey on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

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    *This episode mentions the struggles faced by LGBTQIA+ youth - if you or anyone you know is struggling text ‘START’ to 678-678 to reach The Trevor Project


    SOURCES

    • The Greek Myths, by Robert Graves
    • The Penguin Dictionary of Classical Mythology, by Pierre Grimal
    • Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes, by Edith Hamilton
    • 45 Master Characters, by Victoria Lynn Schmidt
    • Bravo Shows - Peacock


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    6 November 2025, 9:05 am
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