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It’s Just A Show

It’s Just A Show

Chris Piuma

A conversation with Mystery Science Theater 3000, in which Adam, Beth, and Chris rewatch episodes of MST3K and then talk about things that come up in each episode: Weird Hollywood, curious history, half-forgotten music, and lots of Donald Pleasence.

  • 58 minutes 22 seconds
    193. What If We Don’t Tell Stories? [MST3K 318. Star Force: Fugitive Alien II.]

    We’re back, and Ken’s back, and the plucky crew of the Bacchus 3 is back, as Star Force: Fugitive Alien II throws Chris and Charlotte into the brig, where they talk about puppets, costumes, pussycats, cleavage, and choreography.

    Show Notes.

    Star Force: Fugitive Alien II (Minoru Kanaya & Kiyosumi Kuzakawa, 1978 (tv show)/1987 (film)): MST3K Wiki. IMDB. Watch on YouTube.

    We covered Fugitive Alien (part I) in episodes 176 (KTMA) and 177 (season 3).

    A national park.

    We talked about marionettes in our episodes on Invaders from the Deep and we must have talked about puppets in our episode on Devil Doll, no? Oh, and we talked about H.R. Pufnstuf in our episode on Crash of Moons.

    Is there a Puppet Wiki? Of course. Though the Muppet Wiki has more info on Big Bird. And you might want to go to the regular wiki for more info on Señor Wences.

    Videos going inside Jim Henson’s Creature Shop and behind the scenes of Netflix’s The Dark Crystal. And how Muppets go outside!

    The Northeast Georgia History Center offers a video about the history of puppets.

    The British Puppet Guild and the Chicago International Puppet Theater.

    Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! (Russ Meyer, 1965).

    Peaches Christ highlights Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! and interviews Tura Satana in 2005.

    Roger Copeland: Merce Cunningham: The Modernizing of Modern Dance was a helpful resource (although not without its flaws).

    Merce Cunningham: Common Time, a book which accompanied a museum retrospective, was also fun to read.

    The Merce Cunningham Trust carries his legacy forward. They also have a YouTube channel.

    Merce by Merce by Paik (Charles Atlas, Nam June Paik, Shigeko Kubota, 1978) is two short films (made for tv) about Merce's work, and includes some of his early experiments with dance and video.

    Cage/Cunningham (Eliot Caplan, 1991) is a charming documentary about John Cage and Merce Cunningham’s work together. I wonder if someone has uploaded the whole thing to YouTube?

    Support us on Patreon and support the show.

    29 August 2026, 4:00 pm
  • 59 minutes 58 seconds
    192. Trash Heaps of Love. [MST3K 514. Teen-age Strangler.]

    Teen-age Strangler is out there not stealing no bikes while Chris and Charlotte discuss forever love, temporary love, parental love, punk rock love, but mostly their love of Mikey.

    With the short: Is This Love?

    Show Notes.

    Teen-age Strangler (Ben Parker, 1964): MST3K Wiki. IMDB. Watch on YouTube.

    Is This Love? (Unknown, 1957): IMDB. UnMSTed.

    KTMA episode 3 has been found! You can find it on YouTube or archive.org.

    Doctor Who also found some long-lost episodes.

    Talking Pondo: Purple Rain and America’s Sweethearts with Charlotte Wells and Chris Piuma

    A note on Reddit about John Humphreys passing.

    Jack Douglas: Shut Up and Eat Your Showshoes!.

    Butthole Surfers: Lady Sniff. (That’s the one Charlotte couldn’t remember the name of.)

    The Dead Milkmen: Punk Rock Girl.

    Mojo Nixon: Elvis is Everywhere.

    Jello Biafra & Mojo Nixon: Are You Drinking with Me, Jesus? and Love Me, I’m a Liberal (originally written by Phil Ochs).

    Jello Biafra running for mayor. More.

    Dead Kennedys: California Über Alles

    Check out the Chad Mitchell Trio, now without Chad Mitchell!

    A local talk show segment about the 60th anniversary screening of Teen-age Strangler in Huntington, West Virginia.

    Support us on Patreon and you can listen to a special bonus bit that was cut for time from this episode.

    23 April 2026, 4:00 pm
  • 59 minutes 29 seconds
    191. The Lon in Lon. [MST3K 409. Indestructible Man.]

    Indestructible Man gets revenge on Chris and Charlotte, who double crossed him by talking about Max Showalter, Lon Chaney, Lon Chaney, Mr. Bulky's, and the Mountain Goats.

    With the short: Undersea Kingdom, chapter 2!

    Show Notes.

    Indestructible Man (Jack Pollexfen, 1956): MST3K Wiki. IMDB. Trailer. Watch on YouTube.

    Undersea Kingdom, ch. 2 (B. Reeves Eason & Joseph Kane, 1936): IMDB.

    KTMA episode 3 has been found! You can find it on YouTube or archive.org.

    Demon Squad: Tooth and Claw (Thomas Smith, 2026). Our episode on Demon Squad.

    We talk about Crash Corrigan in our episode on Attack of the Giant Leeches.

    Our episode on Catalina Caper.

    Sixteen Candles (John Hughes, 1984).

    Niagara (Henry Hathaway, 1953).

    A review of Undersea Kingdom which will help you identify Lon.

    The Phantom of the Opera (Rupert Julian, 1925).

    The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Wallace Worsley, 1923).

    The Wolf Man (George Waggner, 1941).

    The Mountain Goats: Rotten Stinking Mouthpiece. (Some of the lore about the movie presented here is not accurate, but that’s OK.)

    I Only Listen to the Mountain Goats.

    Mr. Bulky’s. (See also Grandpa Joe’s.)

    R.E.M.: Cuyahoga.

    We tried the candy in our episode on The Green Slime.

    Support us on Patreon and you can listen to a special bonus bit that was cut for time from this episode.

    31 March 2026, 4:00 pm
  • 58 minutes 23 seconds
    190. Another Person Who’s Miserable. [MST3K 1202. Atlantic Rim.]

    Atlantic Rim lurks in the depths, waiting to see if Chris and Charlotte are drift-compatable enough to nagivate Kickstarters, notorious movies, mockbusters, Guillermo del Toro, and garage bands.

    Show Notes.

    Atlantic Rim (Jared Cohn, 2013): MST3K Wiki. IMDB. Trailer. Hopefully on YouTube in a few weeks.

    The Kickstarter, in the unlikely event that this is the first you’re hearing about it.

    A reminder about some of the things Mike has said in the past, and Mike’s apology.

    Demon Squad: Tooth and Claw (Thomas Smith, 2026).

    Listen to Charlotte on Fiasco Family Movie Night talking about rom-coms!

    Dances with Wolves (Kevin Costner, 1990).

    The Twilight Saga: New Moon (Chris Weitz, 2009).

    North (Rob Reiner, 1994).

    Love by Design (Jared Cohn, 2023).

    Naughty by Nature: Hip Hop Hooray and O.P.P.

    A profile of The Asylum.

    The Asylum have put a bunch of their films on YouTube, because why not.

    Pacific Rim (Guillermo del Toro, 2013).

    Pacific Rim: The Black.

    Ellen McClain’s casting is intentional.

    Bruce McCullough remembers a sketch. Or, I guess technically, multiple sketches, but the first one is the best.

    Support us on Patreon and you can listen to a special bonus bit that was cut for time from this episode.

    28 February 2026, 5:00 pm
  • 31 minutes 26 seconds
    189b. Toothpicks and Glue. [MST3K: The Web Series & MST3K: The Comic.]

    MST3K: The Web Series (a.k.a “The ’Bots Are Back”) hit our web browers in 2007, about halfway between the end of MST3K’s original run and the beginning of the Netflix seasons. MST3K: The Comic hit comic book stores right before season 12 dropped. Both experiment with MST3K in new formats, but one is significantly more successful than the other. Chris and Charlotte investigate.

    Show Notes.

    MST3K: The Web Series was quickly taken offline, but you can find it on YouTube.

    MST3K: The Comic was published by Portland’s own Dark Horse Comics. It ran for six issues, and was collected in a trade paperback.

    Homestar Runner began in 2000. When the MST3K web series came out, they were up to sbemail 183.

    MST3K: The Comic mostly riffs on:

    • Johnny Jason, Teen Reporter 2 (1962)
    • Black Cat 2 (1946)
    • Black Cat 3 (1946)
    • Black Cat 5 (1947)
    • Horrific 1 (1952)
    • Horrific 2 (1952)
    • Horrific 3 (1953)

    Henry Nilsson: A Little Touch of Schmilsson in the Night.

    Support us on Patreon and you can hang out with us in a friendly little Discord.

    17 February 2026, 5:00 pm
  • 59 minutes 58 seconds
    189. Scratch and Flick. [MST3K 406. Attack of the Giant Leeches.]

    Attack of the Giant Leeches feeds off Chris and Charlotte as they discuss creature features, leeches, surgeon’s sutures, Crash (as Crash), and Crash’s ranch.

    With the short: Undersea Kingdom, chapter 1.

    Show Notes.

    Attack of the Giant Leeches (Bernard L. Kowalski, 1959): MST3K Wiki. IMDB. Trailer. Watch on YouTube.

    Undersea Kingdom, ch. 1 (B. Reeves Eason & Joseph Kane, 1936): IMDB.

    King Kong vs. Gozilla (キングコング対ゴジラ) (Ishirō Honda, 1962) is but the first.

    King Kong on Wikizilla.

    MST3K has been sold.

    MST3K: The RiffTrax Experiments on Kickstarter.

    An article in Variety about the upcoming episodes.

    We talked about Atlantis in our episodes on Beyond Atlantis and Hercules and the Captive Women.

    We’ve mentioned Hee-Haw in a few episodes, including Prince of Space and The Deadly Bees.

    And we talked about Hummel figurines in our episode on Demon Squad.

    Our episodes on The Killer Shrews and The Leech Woman.

    This Podcast Will Kill You: Leeches.

    A video about leeches from Deep Marine Scenes.

    Ancient leech fossils.

    A PBS video on medicinal leeches.

    An article about a medical leech farm.

    Leeches and osteoarthritis.

    Leeches and biodiversity research.

    An Australian hiker with advice on leeches.

    A web tour of Corriganville.

    Bela Lugosi Meets a Brooklyn Gorilla (William Beaudine, 1952).

    In memoriam Phillip Piuma (1978–2026).

    Support us on Patreon and you can listen to a special bonus bit that was cut for time from this episode.

    3 February 2026, 5:00 pm
  • 59 minutes 50 seconds
    188. Please, Let Leonard. [MST3K 909. Gorgo.]

    Happy Gamuary! This year Gorgo roars as Chris and Charlotte discuss Irish kaiju, Irish stereotypes, Irish playwrights, Irish boxers, and walking through London.

    Show Notes.

    Gorgo (Eugène Lourié, 1961): MST3K Wiki. IMDB. Trailer. Watch on YouTube.

    We began celebrating Gamuary way back in 2018 with our first episode on Gamera vs. Barugon.

    Also, we don’t mention this, but there is an earlier film that is arguably the first UK kaiju movie: The Giant Behemoth (Eugène Lourié, 1959). Same director as Gorgo.

    Leonard Maltin: Leonard Maltin’s 1998 Movie & Video Guide.

    Leonard Maltin’s homepage. Someone on Letterboxd posts all his reviews, including his review of Gorgo.

    Ógra.

    Rodan (Ishirō Honda, 1956).

    Coliemore Harbour in Dalkey, Ireland.

    Get your replica boots. Or the replica slippers.

    Chris talked about Samuel Beckett and Waiting for Godot on a recent episode of The Spouter-Inn.

    Samuel Beckett: Waiting for Godot. Endgame. Krapp’s Last Tape. Happy Days. Not I.

    See also (or search for) Beckett on Film.

    Not I (Anthony Page, 1973) starring Billie Whitelaw.

    We discuss John Ford and John Wayne some more in our episode on Last of the Wild Horses.

    The Quiet Man (John Ford, 1952).

    Cher: If I Could Turn Back Time.

    And a related ad.

    The Caine Mutiny (Edward Dmytryk, 1954). That one scene.

    Gordon Lightfoot: The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. And an example of a later live version.

    Waiting for Gorgo (Benjamin Craig, 2010).

    Support us on Patreon and you can listen to a special bonus bit that was cut for time from this episode — and our holiday special!

    16 January 2026, 5:00 pm
  • 58 minutes
    187. The Most Holiday Movie We’ve Ever Done. [MST3K 1304. Munchie.]

    Happy holidays! Look, we got you a Munchie! Put it in a box and everything. And we also got you an episode of Chris and Charlotte talking about Munchies, Munchie Strikes Back, Dom DeLuise, Jennifer Love Hewitt, and the late great Loni Anderson.

    Show Notes.

    Munchie (Jim Wynorski, 1992): MST3K Wiki. IMDB. Trailer.

    Support us on Patreon and listen to our holiday special, all about the Edvard Grieg musical biopic Song of Norway (Andrew L. Stone, 1970). (You probably don’t want to watch the movie itself.)

    Grieg is the composer behind In the Hall of the Mountain King — and much more!

    Get ready for Fiascomas! A new little daily podcast about holiday movies, running between Christmas and New Year’s, by the friends who bring you Hubrisween!.

    Our episodes on MST3Kon and Cry Wilderness.

    Munchies (Tina Hirsch, 1987).

    Munchie Strikes Back (Jim Wynorski, 1994).

    Love Hewitt: Heart of Glass.

    We talk about The Bastard (Lee H. Katzin, 1978) in our episode on SST: Death Flight.

    A Prince for Christmas (Fred Olen Ray, 2015).

    Phantasm (Don Coscarelli, 1979).

    The Classic Erich Wolfgang Korngold. (Yes, he used a different pseudonym for this.)

    Kevin Kutchaver.

    Little Miss Millions (Jim Wynorski, 1993).

    Judy Tenuta in 1990, uh, being weirdly topical for today.

    Support us on Patreon and you can listen to a special bonus bit that was cut for time from this episode — and our holiday special!

    25 December 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 1 hour
    186. A Crackpot Theory That I Have No Evidence For. [MST3K 603. The Dead Talk Back.]

    The Dead Talk Back, but maybe you’d rather hear Chris and Charlotte talk about true believers, ice cream sales, safety plans, public service announcements, and The Grateful Dead.

    With the short: The Selling Wizard.

    Show Notes.

    The Dead Talk Back (Merle S. Gould, 1957/1993): MST3K Wiki. IMDB. Watch on YouTube.

    The Selling Wizard (Unknown, 1954): IMDB. UnMSTed.

    MST3K has just uploaded The Christmas That Almost Wasn’t, which we covered last year, for the holidays.

    The Body Is a Shell (Merle S. Gould, 1956).

    Peter Ballbusch: The Body Is a Shell.

    Edgar Cayce.

    We talk about H.R. Pufnstuf or whatever in our episode on Crash of Moons.

    The New York Times on The Body Is a Shell.

    Clips of Dickory Doc.

    An article about ice cream getting popular.

    The relevant fountain pen by Ensso is no longer in production, but here’s a review. (Chris has the black one.)

    OK, but what if everyone jumped at the same time?

    International ShakeOut Day.

    Gas mask drills in World War 2.

    1950s civil defense drills.

    An example of a tsunami drill.

    MST3K PSAs: riffing a news reel and pretending there’s an emergency on the SoL.

    Stuff You Missed in History Class on The Sisters Fox.

    If you missed the news about the talk to your dead grandma through AI thing...

    The Grateful Dead (with John Oswald): Greyfolded.

    Support us on Patreon and you can listen to a special bonus bit that was cut for time from this episode.

    15 December 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 59 minutes 59 seconds
    185. Everything Is Beautiful. [MST3K K01. Invaders from the Deep.]

    Happy Turkey Day! Let’s celebrate with the very first episode of MST3K, which premiered on Thanksgiving 1988! Invaders from the Deep (which is to say, four episodes of Stingray spliced together into a movie) dives after Chris and Charlotte while they flap their lips about Turkey Day, Supermarionation, brief introductions, earnest ecologists, and beer nuts.

    Show Notes.

    Invaders from the Deep (David Lane, 1981 (based on Stingray (1964))): MST3K Wiki. IMDB.

    Details about this year’s Turkey Day, which is happening when this podcast goes live.

    You can see a print ad for the debut of MST3K on the KTMA era page of The Epicurean History of MST3K.

    Our episode on Humanoid Woman.

    Phones and Marina over on the Gerry (and presumably Sylvia) Anderson wiki.

    Filmed in Supermarionatin (Stephen La Rivière, 2014) is the documentary Chris watched, now available on YouTube.

    Our episodes on the test pilot, the first Comedy Channel episode, the first Mike episode, the first Sci-Fi episode, the first Jonah episode, and the first Emily episode.

    Silent Running (Douglas Trumbull, 1972).

    Beer Nuts.

    Support us on Patreon and you can listen to a special bonus bit that was cut for time from this episode.

    27 November 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 33 minutes 47 seconds
    184b. It’s Just A Town. [Assignment: Venezuela, from the MST3K CD-ROM.]

    Assignment: Venezuela sends Chris and Charlotte off to discuss economic colonialism, oil extraction, Latin American history, lying husbands, and CD-ROMs.

    Show Notes.

    Assignment: Venezuela (Jack Tobin, 1956): MST3K Wiki. IMDB. UnMSTed.

    Our episode on The Beast of Yucca Flats, with the short: Progress Island, U.S.A.

    The surprisingly robust Wikipedia article on Assignment: Venezuela, with lots of MST3K content.

    Eduardo Galeano: The Memory of Fire trilogy: Genesis, Faces and Masks, and Century of the Wind — as well as The Book of Embraces.

    A history of Levittown, NY.

    Some documents about the integration of Levittown, PA.

    The Wikipedia article on Robert Moses has a subsection on racism which details the recent arguments that have been made about the Jones Beach story.

    Don’t Worry Darling (Olivia Wilde, 2022). (Charlotte notes that the movie gets pretty dark.)

    The Mystery Science Theater 3000 CD-ROM.

    The Voyager Company, and a list of the CD-ROMs they released (or planned to release).

    Laurie Anderson recently had a chance to revisit The Puppet Motel.

    Someone uploaded a playthrough (if you want to call it that) of The Puppet Motel.

    Support us on Patreon and hang out with us in a friendly Discord.

    16 November 2025, 5:00 pm
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