Industry Relations

Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson

  • 57 minutes 30 seconds
    The $250M Settlement That will Impact the Industry

    HomeServices of America has reached a settlement in the slew of commission lawsuits. Now that a huge domino has fallen, what will happen next in the industry? Rob and Greg discuss  the next steps in the commission lawsuits and the potential challenges faced by copycat lawsuits. They also discuss the role of lawyers and the potential opt-out strategy for larger builders. And how fair are these settlements and will it potentially impact recruiting and retention efforts?

     

    They discuss other major players like Compass, Keller Williams, and EXP, bringing to light the dynamic changes in the landscape, the controversy surrounding CoStar and Realtor.com, the future of Redfin, and discuss the upcoming NAR mid-year meetings.

     

    This episode is packed with industry insights. 

     

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    1 May 2024, 9:00 am
  • 42 minutes 29 seconds
    CoStar Acquires Matterport: The Photography Wars

    How will CoStar’s recent buyout of Matterport affect the industry? In this episode Rob and Greg dive into the recent acquisition of Matterport by CoStar and how Rob and Greg predicted this years ago. How will Zillow respond? And how will other industry giants such as Redfin be affected by this huge announcement?

     

    They also talk about Realtor.com's CEO, Damian Eales, and his plans to expand the portal's offerings. But beyond the competition between these portals lies an important conversation about raising the bar in the industry and eliminating low-quality agents for the betterment of consumers. 

     

    And what’s the next battleground in real estate? Buyer rep agreements will be crucial to differentiate between the showdown with good agents and bad agents. 

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    24 April 2024, 9:00 am
  • 51 minutes 24 seconds
    Unpacking Pulte Group's Objection to the NAR Settlement

    Join Rob and Greg in this episode as they talk about the recent objection filed by Pulte Homes to the NAR settlements. Are they valid and will they make an impact? Also, what is Real Estate 3.0? Greg expands on what it means and how it will shift the roles of agents. Rob shares his insights from a recent panel he attended and what the potential for state regulators intervening in commission decoupling could mean for the industry. They also take a bit of a Q & A during this special livestream episode. #NARsettlement #RealEstate3.0

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    19 April 2024, 1:02 pm
  • 54 minutes 30 seconds
    NAR’s Continuing Legal Battles

    Not one week goes by without some huge industry news surrounding NAR. In this episode, Rob ang Greg discuss the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals' reversal in the NAR vs. US lawsuit, paving way for a new probe in the wake of the pending commission lawsuit settlement. Rob and Greg explore the antitrust lawsuit's history, implications of the reversal, and how it aligns with their predictions for the industry and future of NAR.

     

    Greg talks about the NAR-DOJ agreement and potential political impacts, while Rob focuses on the long-term effects. The dynamic duo stress on focusing on industry practices, legal settlements, and progress.

     

    Rob and Greg also debate the CMLS and NWMLS amicus briefs on MLS practices, while illustrating the timing and what the industry is signaling. This episode is jam packed with industry insights.

     

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    10 April 2024, 9:00 am
  • 54 minutes 53 seconds
    The NAR Settlement Part 2

    Did you catch the sparks fly on the last episode of Industry Relations? In case you missed it, last week Rob and Greg got into a verbal fistfight. Made up. Became friends again. And are now ready for round 2. 

     

    Rob and Greg continue their NAR settlement talk, post verbal tussle. Exploring NAR's $418 million settlement, they talk about the association's PR challenges, trust issues, and internal rifts. Questioning leadership and missed PR opportunities, they call for urgent reform.

     

    Facing a crucial crossroads, the industry risks becoming a societal scapegoat. Rob and Greg urge immediate action to rebuild trust, improve communication, and navigate public scrutiny. Highlighting the role of leadership in these turbulent times, stressing the need for effective communication. 

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    3 April 2024, 9:00 am
  • 1 hour 29 seconds
    The NAR Settlement: The Good, the Bad, and the Unknown

    What will the recent NAR settlement mean for the future of real estate, technology, and industry navigation? In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the outcomes of the recent NAR settlement. They provide insights on the agreement, exploring their reactions and perspectives on the settlement's details. From provisions to backlash, they discuss public perception, legal frameworks, and implications for agents, brokers, and the market. During the discussion, Rob and Greg also disagree with one another at times, and fight like a married couple. After this episode discussing the NAR lawsuit, yet again, should the guys take a break and do a movie review of Dune 2? Grab your sandworm buckets and tune in!

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    27 March 2024, 9:00 am
  • 42 minutes 28 seconds
    A Multi-Million Dollar Settlement: Unpacking NAR's Landmark Deal with the DOJ

    Tune in to this must-listen episode of *Industry Relations* for an incisive breakdown of the NAR's landmark settlement, its ramifications, and the many lingering questions that promise to shape the discourse in real estate circles for years to come. Whether you're a real estate professional, an industry watcher, or just keen on understanding the forces shaping one of the economy's key sectors, this episode is for you.

    In a pivotal episode of Industry Relations, hosts Rob Hahn and Greg Robertson dive deep into a recent seismic shift within the real estate horizon—The National Association of Realtors (NAR)'s $418 million settlement with the plaintiffs’ attorneys. A settlement like this is more than a headline; it's a precedent setter with far-reaching implications for every corner of the real estate world.

    From referral networks and real estate portals to association-owned MLSs (and notably excluding non-association-owned MLSs), no stone is left unturned as Rob and Greg unpack the nuances of the settlement. With the DOJ's likely oversight and approval, the proposed settlement not only closes a chapter, but opens a discussion on the enforcement of regulations and the reinforcement of NAR membership. How will these changes ripple through the industry? What does this mean for unrepresented buyers in an increasingly opaque MLS landscape? And could this herald a new era of changes and MLS practices?

    Beyond the settlement itself, this episode explores the broader implications for the real estate industry, including potential shifts in steering practices and the access to information on MLS platforms. As Rob and Greg navigate through these complex topics, they shed light on what the future may hold for realtors, MLSs, and the consumers they serve.

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    20 March 2024, 11:00 am
  • 48 minutes 29 seconds
    Is the Real Estate Industry Getting Their Mojo Back?

    What does the future hold for real estate commissions? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the Clarity event and the legal updates regarding real estate commissions. They explore the concept of concessions and the issue of steering in the industry, the need for improved buyer agency agreements and buyer presentations and the defiance of industry professionals and the potential impact of government regulations on real estate commissions. Rob and Greg also cover various topics related to the real estate industry, including the myth of the Australian model, the reality of real estate commissions, the relationship between MLS and NAR, and provide potential solutions to the numerous challenges and complexities of these issues. Oh, and they also brainstorm the idea of creating an app for arranged marriages called 'Tinder for Parents.' You don’t want to miss this episode!

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    13 March 2024, 11:00 am
  • 52 minutes 40 seconds
    Does NAR have a competence problem?

    Who bears the brunt of legal defense costs? What financial toll does this uncertainty cast on associations? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the pressing issues faced by the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and its profound impact on local associations, MLSs and brokers. The insurance dilemma that has recently come to light, along with the unclear communication and lack of transparency from NAR is concerning to put it mildly.

    And the conversation doesn't stop at insurance mishaps. Rob and Greg confront the broader issue plaguing the real estate industry - a competency crisis within NAR’s leadership. They share their personal frustrations and the collective agitation among realtors over how NAR has managed various crises, including a lawsuit with the Department of Justice and serious sexual harassment allegations.

    The lack of skilled leadership, effective communication, and crisis navigation has not only fueled discontent but has also positioned the industry under a harsh spotlight, inviting negative media attention and dozens of copycat lawsuits. This episode is a call for leaders who can confidently steer the industry away from turmoil and towards a future led by transparency, competence, and integrity.

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    28 February 2024, 12:00 pm
  • 58 minutes 13 seconds
    DOJ Drops Statement of Interest in the Nosalek Case

    What impact will the Department of Justice's stance on the MLS settlement have on the future of buying and selling houses? In this important episode of "Industry Relations," Rob and Greg talk about a big message from the Department of Justice (DOJ) about the MLS settlement. The DOJ seems to want the court to say no to the settlement. Selling agents might not make as much money as before, and buyers agents might need to show why they're worth their commission more than ever. It's time to start thinking about how we can prepare for change and innovate new approaches in serving buyers and seller.

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    21 February 2024, 10:00 am
  • 51 minutes 35 seconds
    Super Bowl Ripples

    ultimate cost warrant the spotlight?

    On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss Homes.com's momentous marketing push running an ad during the most watched event in America – the Super Bowl. And its potential ripple effects on industry giants like Zillow.

    Rob and Greg also revisit the real estate industry's current legal battles.  The buzz around the Keller Williams settlement and with consolidation on the horizon, how will ongoing lawsuits reshape the future landscape for real estate professionals?

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    14 February 2024, 10:00 am
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