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Breaking Math Podcast

Breaking Math Podcast

Gabriel Hesch and Autumn Phaneuf

Hosted by Gabriel Hesch and Autumn Phaneuf, who have advanced degrees in EE and industrial engineering/operations research respectively, come together to discuss mathematics as a pure field al in its own as well as how it describes the language of science, engineering, and even creativity.  

Breaking Math brings you the absolute best in interdisciplinary science discussions -  bringing together experts in varying fields including artificial intelligence, neuroscience, evolutionary biology, physics, chemistry and materials-science, and more -  to discuss where humanity is headed.

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  • 56 minutes 37 seconds
    Explaining Huge Numbers with Richard Elwes

    What does it actually mean for a number to be “big”? In this episode of Breaking Math, Autumn chats with mathematician Richard Elwes to explore how huge numbers reveal the limits of human intuition, language, and even mathematics itself. The discussion moves from exponential growth in pandemics and finance to numbers larger than the universe itself, emerging in games like chess and abstract possibility spaces. Finally, it reaches one of the most profound ideas in modern mathematics: that there are true statements about numbers that can never be proven. This episode challenges how we think about scale, complexity, and the systems we rely on to make sense of reality.

    Key Topics

    Limits of ancient numeral systems like Roman numerals

    Mathematical logic and the concept of huge numbers

    Evolution of number notation from Roman to Hindu-Arabic systems

    The significance of place value in expressing large numbers

    The Mayan long count and its implications for understanding time scales

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Inspiration for the Book

    01:39 Redefining Big Numbers

    01:55 Limits of Numerical Systems

    05:33 Evolution of Number Sense

    10:02 Language and Numerical Understanding

    11:53 Cultural Influences on Numerical Systems

    14:18 Hacks in Ancient Number Systems

    16:55 Archimedes and the Concept of Infinity

    22:01 The Importance of Place Value

    25:45 Mayan Cosmology and Time Scales

    31:55 Exponential Growth and Its Dangers

    32:20 Understanding Exponential Growth

    36:14 The Dangers of Exponential Growth

    37:23 Limits of Exponential Growth in the Physical World

    39:42 Exploring Possibility Space

    45:38 Goodstein's Theorem and Mathematical Logic

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    28 April 2026, 5:57 pm
  • 35 minutes 33 seconds
    AI Isn’t Replacing You—It’s Changing the Rules with Sheamus McGovern

    In this episode we sit down with Sheamus McGovern, founder of the Open Data Science Conference (ODSC AI), to unpack what AI actually looks like. Sheamus shares what’s really happening behind the scenes of the AI boom and why the biggest shift isn’t job loss, but a complete transformation of skills. From explaining why AI is reshaping—not replacing—jobs, to breaking down the gap between hype and real-world applications, this conversation explores how early algorithmic trading foreshadowed today’s AI revolution, why open-source tools like TensorFlow and PyTorch changed everything, what the “AI Skill Flip” means for your career, and why even data scientists are questioning their future. Along the way, the biggest mistake people make when trying to learn AI, and why the smartest approach isn’t to learn everything—but to start intentionally and build from there.

    Timestamps

    00:00 – The biggest misconception about AI

    02:00 – Algorithmic trading and the origins of AI in finance

    05:00 – The birth of ODSC AI and the data science movement

    09:30 – Breakthrough moments in AI

    16:30 – Democratization of AI and open-source tools

    19:00 –The AI Skill Flip

    24:00 – The truth about AI replacing jobs

    27:00 – Real-world AI success stories

    32:30 – How to actually start learning AI today

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    26 April 2026, 3:08 am
  • 50 minutes 58 seconds
    Math and Magic with Matt Baker

    In this episode, mathematician and award-winning magician Matt Baker explores the fascinating intersection of mathematics and magic, revealing how mathematical principles, intuition, and storytelling create unforgettable illusions. From a mind-reading trick based on the classic concept of “casting out nines” to his groundbreaking research on the Riemann–Roch theorem for graphs, Baker demonstrates how creativity and pattern recognition drive both mathematical discovery and magical performance.

    Chapters

    00:00 The Interplay of Math and Magic

    04:58 Aesthetic Connections in Math and Magic

    08:57 Balancing Family, Math, and Magic

    12:34 The Impact of Magic on Mathematical Thinking

    16:32 The Art of Clarity in Communication

    16:44 A Live Magic Demonstration

    25:14 Intuition and Pattern Recognition in Math

    30:03 The Riemann-Roch Theorem for Graphs

    41:42 The Role of AI in Mathematics and Magic

    50:21 The Art of Communicating Mathematics

    50:47 The Magic of Math and Performance

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    15 April 2026, 12:54 am
  • 38 minutes 35 seconds
    Credibility Crisis in Science with Thomas Plümper and Eric Neumayer

    In this episode, Thomas Plümper and Eric Neumayer explore the hidden challenges in modern science, from outright fraud to the subtler practice of “tweaking” data that distorts results. They examine why the self-correcting nature of science often falls short, how incentives and academic pressure drive misconduct, and the double-edged role of AI in both enabling and detecting fraud. The conversation also tackles debates around p-values and statistical reasoning, shares cautionary case studies, and proposes solutions like greater data transparency and stronger verification standards.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Fraud in Research

    06:21 The Nature of Fraud Detection

    08:56 Incentives and Motivations for Fraud

    10:43 Self-Correction in Science

    12:13 Understanding Statistical Significance

    13:04 The Role of Replication in Research

    14:32 Bayesian vs Frequentist Approaches

    23:09 Understanding Bayesian Statistics and Its Implications

    26:24 The Humility of Empirical Science

    27:16 Concrete Examples of Scientific Fraud

    32:52 Proposed Solutions to Scientific Fraud

    34:50 The Reality of Scientific Fraud and Human Nature

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    7 April 2026, 4:50 am
  • 8 minutes 1 second
    Denied, Then Unstoppable: The Story of Mary T. Washington Wylie

    This Women in History Mini-Series episode with Dr. Victoria Bateman explores the inspiring story of Mary T. Washington Wylie, the first African-American woman CPA, her challenges, achievements, and legacy in breaking racial and gender barriers in the early 20th century. Mathematics is supposed to be objective—but access to it has never been equal.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Mary T. Washington Wylie

    00:48 Early Life and Challenges

    02:58 Breaking Barriers in Accountancy

    05:25 Pioneering a Path for Others

    07:21 Legacy and Impact

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    27 March 2026, 4:43 am
  • 40 minutes 20 seconds
    The Power of Connection in Math: Insights from Hortensia Soto

    In this episode of Breaking Math, we sit down with Dr. Hortensia Soto, former president of the Mathematical Association of America, to explore the role of mathematics in a world shaped by AI, education, and access. We discuss how debates in math are often really about opportunity and inclusion, how educators can navigate the rapid pace of AI, and why communication and human connection matter more than ever. The conversation also highlights the importance of financial literacy, embodied learning, and collaboration, reframing mathematics not as a set of answers, but as a way of thinking grounded in curiosity, effort, and relationships.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Hortensia Soto and the Math Community

    02:48 The Role of AI in Mathematics

    05:17 Access to Mathematics and Its Political Nature

    07:34 The Importance of Financial Literacy in Math Education

    10:19 Communication Skills for Mathematicians

    13:06 The Culture of the Mathematical Association of America

    15:29 Reflections on Leadership in the Math Community

    25:01 Innovative Approaches to Mathematics Education

    25:50 Recognizing Math Identity in Students

    27:02 Nurturing Student Potential

    35:31 The Role of AI in Learning

    38:26 The Human Element in Mathematics

    39:51 Mathematics Beyond Symbols and Procedures

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    24 March 2026, 2:23 am
  • 12 minutes 55 seconds
    Florence Nightingale: Data-Driven Reformer of Medicine

    This Women in History Mini-Series episode with Dr. Victoria Bateman explores the groundbreaking contributions of Florence Nightingale, highlighting her use of data and statistics to revolutionize healthcare and public health during the 19th century. Discover how her innovative use of data visualization and her perseverance against gender biases transformed modern nursing and public health policy.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Florence Nightingale's Legacy

    02:21 The Crimean War and Nightingale's Impact

    05:18 Data Collection and Analysis in Healthcare

    07:18 Overcoming Gender Bias in Medicine

    09:23 Innovations in Data Visualization

    11:59 Nightingale's Lasting Influence and Conclusion

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    20 March 2026, 3:34 am
  • 35 minutes 18 seconds
    The Math Behind Gerrymandering, Fair Representation, and Politics with Karen Saxe

    Mathematics quietly shapes some of the most important decisions in public life, from redistricting and congressional apportionment to federal research funding and AI policy. In this episode, Autumn and Noah speak with Dr. Karen Saxe, Senior Vice President of Government Relations at the American Mathematical Society, about how mathematical ideas influence representation, fairness, education, and the future of research. From gerrymandering and geometric compactness to life inside the U.S. Senate and the growing policy debates around AI, Karen reveals how deeply math is woven into the systems that govern everyday life.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Conversation

    01:15 The Hot Tea in DC

    01:24 Gerrymandering and Mathematics

    03:42 Understanding Gerrymandering and Redistricting

    08:07 The Role of Mathematicians in Politics

    12:19 Experiences in the Senate with Al Franken

    19:32 Government Relations and the Role of Mathematics

    23:01 The Impact of AI on Mathematics and Policy

    28:41 Community Readiness for AI Transformations

    29:22 Diversity in Education and Its Challenges

    29:40 Bridging Mathematics and Politics

    29:58 Career Pathways: Academia to Policy

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    17 March 2026, 5:29 am
  • 14 minutes 20 seconds
    Anna Schwartz: The Economist Who Changed How We Study Economies

    This Women in History Mini-Series episode with Dr. Victoria Bateman explores the groundbreaking work of Anna Schwartz, a pioneering economist who transformed macroeconomics through data-driven research. Discover how her meticulous analysis of monetary history shaped economic policy and the legacy she left for future generations.

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    00:00 Introduction to Anna Schwartz and Her Impact

    01:45 The Historical Context of Economic Data

    04:10 Challenges Faced by Women in Economics

    06:03 A Monetary History of the United States

    09:04 The Methodology of Anna Schwartz

    11:46 Legacy and Personal Insights on Anna Schwartz

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    13 March 2026, 3:50 pm
  • 25 minutes 46 seconds
    Disappearing Grants, Genius Grants, and the AI Proofs with Lauren K. Williams

    In this episode, Lauren Williams, professor of mathematics at Harvard University and a 2025 MacArthur Fellow, speaks about the surprising and often messy reality of mathematical research. The conversation begins with a turbulent moment in academia, when federal grants supporting her work were suddenly canceled—only months before she received the MacArthur “Genius Grant,” an unexpected recognition that allowed her to continue her research. Williams explains her work in algebraic combinatorics, illustrating how abstract mathematics can connect to real-world systems. The discussion also explores the human side of discovery, from collaborations that span continents to the strange coincidence of research papers and babies arriving the same week. Finally, the episode dives into one of the most intriguing experiments in modern mathematics: the First Proof project, which tests whether artificial intelligence can produce genuine mathematical proofs, revealing both the promise and the current limitations of AI-generated reasoning.

    Chapters

    01:27 Winning the MacArthur Genius Grant

    01:43 Becoming a Woman in Mathematics at Harvard

    04:25 Research Applications

    10:04 The Human Side of Research

    12:20 The First Proof Project

    18:29 Advice for Young Mathematicians

    22:51 The Intersection of Mathematics and AI

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    11 March 2026, 2:52 am
  • 9 minutes 44 seconds
    Priscilla Wakefield: Empowering Women Through Financial Literacy

    This Women in History Mini-Series with Dr. Victoria Bateman explores the life and contributions of Priscilla Wakefield, a revolutionary figure in financial literacy and women's empowerment during the Industrial Revolution. Wakefield's work in establishing savings banks and community insurance schemes for women highlights her belief in the practical application of mathematics for everyday life. The discussion also addresses the challenges women faced in finance during her time and her lasting impact on feminist economics.

    Takeaways

    • Priscilla Wakefield taught ordinary people how to use numbers.
    • She established England's first savings bank for women and children.
    • Wakefield's work was pivotal during the British Industrial Revolution.
    • She recognized the need for financial education among women.
    • Her community insurance scheme empowered women financially.
    • Wakefield's approach to mathematics was practical and accessible.
    • She published influential works on women's rights and economics.
    • Her philosophy emphasized the importance of financial literacy.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Priscilla Wakefield

    01:19 Priscilla Wakefield: A Revolutionary Mathematician

    04:28 The Financial Landscape of Georgian Britain

    06:34 Groundbreaking Contributions to Banking and Finance

    07:41 Fun Facts and Legacy of Priscilla Wakefield

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    6 March 2026, 1:51 am
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