On this month’s episode, Jessica speaks with Dr. Uzma Rizvi (Professor of Anthropology and Urban Studies at Pratt Institute) and Sayed Gul Kalash (Archaeologist, Museum Professional, and Cultural Preservationist from the Kalash Valley, Chitral, Pakistan). The two discuss their discovery of archaeology as a field and their subsequent journeys to become archaeologists. As a result, Gul Kalash became the first and only Kalash community woman archaeologist/anthropologist. The two then discuss how they came to work together and describe some of the important work each of them has focused on, including the importance of using legacy collections, sharing data, learning cultural protocols and respecting community, and finding your own research questions/methods.

Links

• Laboratory for Integrated Archaeological Visualization and Heritage
• Kalash, S. G. (2022). Indigenous archaeology and heritage in Pakistan: Supporting Kalash cultural preservation through education and awareness. Journal of Community Archaeology & Heritage, 9(1), 33–43.
• Rizvi, U. Z. (2022). Community engagement in archaeology and heritage in Pakistan. Journal of Community Archaeology & Heritage, 9(1), 1–8.
• Dr. Uzma Rizvi Istagram
• Sayed Gul Kalash’s YouTube Channel
• Gul Kalash's Instagram
• Gul Kalash's LinkedIn
• Gul Kalash's TikTok Account
• Heritage Voices on the APN

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On this month’s episode, Jessica speaks with Stacy Coleman (Assistant Director for Tribal Affairs with Colorado's Department of Natural Resources). First, the two cover how Stacy ended up focusing on law and then her fifteen years working for the Department of Justice’s Environmental Enforcement Section. Next Stacy describes what drew her to her current position and the many different aspects of such a large dynamic role. Some highlights she discusses for this role include the Colorado Outdoor Strategy and its Guidance Framework for Tribal Consultation, as well as the recent Colorado Parks and Wildlife Community Listening Sessions and the 1st Tribal Summit at the annual Partners in the Outdoors Conference.  Stacy also discusses the importance of setting up a policy foundation for the next generation, as well as some of the many exciting efforts happening both in Colorado and across North America.

Links

• Heritage Voices on the APN
• Stacy Coleman’s Page on the Colorado Department of Natural Resources Website
• Colorado Outdoor Strategy
• Colorado Outdoor Strategy’s Guidance Framework for Tribal Consultation
• American Indian and Indigenous Communities: State Park Engagement
• Colorado Parks and Wildlife Partners in the Outdoors Conference

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On this month’s episode, Jessica speaks with Dr. Peggy Brunache (Senior Lecturer in Public History and Archaeology at the University of Glasgow and founding Director of the Beniba Centre for Slavery Studies). Dr. Brunache breaks down how archaeology serves as an Imperial project, but also how it can serve communities. She also delves into the culinary history of Black foodways and culinary resistance, as well as the heavy influence of those traditions on the cuisine in the United States and Carribbean today. Finally, we talk about her current project in St. Vincent and the Grenadines and working with local communities.

Links

• Heritage Voices on the APN
• Dr. Brunache’s course on the History of Slavery in the British Caribbean on Future Learn
• Sapiens Podcast Episode “Slavery, Sustenance, and Resistance” with Dr. Brunache
• Dr. Brunache as Gertrude Thompson Canton as part of the Raising Horizons Exhibit by Leonora Saunders for Trowel Blazers
• Dr. Brunache’s page on the University of Glasgow Website
• Dr. Brunache on Past Preservers
• Society of Black Archaeologists
• Society of Black Archaeologists Interview with Dr. Brunache
• High on the Hog Netflix Show
• High on the Hog Book by Dr. Jessica Harris

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Jessica

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• @livingheritageA

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On this month’s episode, Jessica talks with Dr. José Capriles Flores (Associate Professor of Anthropology at Penn State). We talk about Dr. Capriles’ journey from visiting Tiwanaku as a child with his late biologist and ornithologist mother to studying zooarchaeology and environmental archaeology across extremely varied ecosystems in South America today. Dr. Capriles discusses how archaic pre-pastoral communities adapted through time with outside influences from Tiwanaku, Spanish, and modern society, but whose descendants have maintained their connections to the land, livestock, and their past. Dr. Capriles describes several recent creative community collaborations, the balance of development with maintaining identity and belonging, and wide reaching networks of exchange from the archaeological record to the international archaeological collaborations today.

Links

• Heritage Voices on the APN
• Ancient temple ruins discovered in Andes shed light on lost society (Article about Tiwanaku temple discovery)
• José M. Capriles - Department of Anthropology
• Heritage Voices Episode with Development Discussion- Diné Public, Fire, and Indigenous Archaeology - Episode 3
• Chiripa Graphic Novel

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Jessica

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• @livingheritageA

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On this month’s episode, Jessica speaks with Dr. Neyooxet Greymorning (University of Montana; Departments of Anthropology and Native American Studies) about language rejuvenation. Dr. Greymorning tells the story of his journey into the work of language rejuvenation, as well as his own experiences with Arapaho as a child. He then explains how he developed his rapid language teaching methods based on how children learn and understand language but that would also fit the context of where he would be teaching. Dr. Greymorning describes the incredible language learning of his students using this method, as well as the challenges in getting educators to try to accept the method and the possible outcomes. Ultimately, these challenges led to one aspect of his current work where he is conducting language learning tests with dolphins!

Links

• Heritage Voices on the APN
• Natives Strengthening Indigenous Languages & Cultures
• Raising Indigenous Voices in Academia and Society webpage
• Raising Indigenous Voices in Academia and Society YouTube
• Dr. Greymorning’s Faculty Page at the University of Montana
• Being Indigenous: Perspectives on Activism, Culture, Language and Indentity (Book by Dr. Greymorning)
• ABC Fox News Article "UM professor tests dolphins for language"

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Jessica

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• @livingheritageA

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For decades, Monte Verde in southern Chile has been one of the most famous archaeological sites in the Americas. The site was widely accepted as 14,500 years old, making it one of the strongest pieces of evidence for human presence in the Americas before Clovis.

But what if that interpretation was wrong?

In this special episode, I sit down with Dr. Todd Surovell, professor of anthropology at the University of Wyoming, to discuss new research that re-examines Monte Verde using modern geoarchaeological methods. The results suggest that the famous site may actually be much younger than previously believed, dating to the Holocene rather than the Ice Age.

If true, this would mean that Monte Verde is not evidence for pre-Clovis humans in South America, and it could force archaeologists to reconsider one of the most influential discoveries in American archaeology.

We discuss:

• The history of the Monte Verde discovery
• Why it reshaped textbooks in the 1990s
• How new geological and dating analyses challenge the original interpretation
• What this means for Clovis-first vs. pre-Clovis models
• Why independent verification and skepticism are essential in science
• This episode explores how science evolves—and how even the most famous discoveries can be re-examined.

Links

• Video Version to follow along
• Surovell’s Study
• Surovell’s UW Page
• davidianhowe.com
• Davidianhowe.com/store

Contact

Jessica

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• @livingheritageA

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On this month’s episode, Jessica speaks with Dr. Norma Gregory (founder and director of Nottingham News Centre) about her efforts to document and educate the public on the industrial heritage history of the African diaspora. Dr. Gregory’s work to develop her book on Jamaicans in Nottingham led her to shift her life work to making sure that Black coal mining history got the attention that it deserved. We talk about some of her different efforts to promote this history as well as how all of us can do better public education in our own work. We also talk about her work for the Windrush museum, on Nottingham Carnival heritage, as well as her future dream vision for continuing this work.

Links

Dr Norma Gregory & Black Miners’ Heritage

• Black Miners Museum Archive
• Norma Gregory – Website
• Norma Gregory – Profile
• Norma Gregory BBC article ‘History Project on Black Miners comes to South Wales’
• Norma Gregory BBC Article ‘Nottinghamshire Black Miners’ History Project Launched’
• Norma Gregory BBC Article Wales Black Miners programme (archived)
• Nottingham News Centre
• Jamaicans in Nottingham : Narratives and Reflections (Book by Dr. Norma Gregory) (to purchase signed copies email: [email protected])

Industrial Heritage & Archaeology

• The Association for Industrial Archaeology UK
• The International Committee for the Conservation of the Industrial Heritage
• National Coal Mining Museum, Yorkshire UK
• International Council of Museums (ICOM)
• The Association for Heritage Interpretation

Windrush Scandal UK

• Windrush Scandal – Timeline of events, The Guardian Newspaper
• Office of the Windrush Commissioner
• Norma Gregory Windrush article, The Nottingham Post
• The National Windrush Museum UK

Further Links

• The Nottingham Carnival
• National Lottery Heritage Fund
• Global Action Plan
• https://www.greenpeace.org.uk/

Transcript

For a rough transcript of this episode head over to: https://www.archaeologypodcastnetwork.com/heritagevoices/104

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On this month’s episode, Jessica checks back in with Aaron Brien (Apsáalooke), who you may remember from Episode 23 on Salish-Kootenai College’s Tribal Historic Preservation Program, Episode 25 on Technology, and episode 41 on Collecting Oral Histories in Indian Country. In the more than 5 years since our last recording, Aaron has moved from being Tribal Historic Preservation Program faculty at Salish-Kootenai College to being the Crow Tribal Historic Preservation Officer. We talk about how that transition happened, the process of reinventing the Crow THPO program, and how the SKC program prepared him for being a THPO. On that note, the podcast Aaron and Dr. Shandin Pete started right before we recorded episode 41 is now called the Tribal Research Specialist podcast and is still going strong! Finally, the third segment focuses on the work the Crow THPO is doing and ongoing challenges as a THPO. We close out by discussing how the second Trump administration affects the work of a THPO and what we should all be doing to support THPOs and the resources they fight for.

Links

• Heritage Voices on the APN
• CTHPO (Crow Tribal Historic Preservation Office)
• Tribal Research Specialist: The Podcast
• Salish-Kootenai College’s Tribal Historic Preservation Program - Ep 23 — Heritage Voices
• Technology - Episode 25 — Heritage Voices
• Collecting Oral Histories in Indian Country - Ep 41 - Heritage Voices
• Sustaining Stewardship
• Tribal Historic Preservation Department - Salish Kootenai College

Contact

Jessica

• [email protected]
• @livingheritageA

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After more than 4 years since they recorded Episode 60 (Historical Archaeology for the Future) together, Jessica checks back in with Dr. Ayana Omilade Flewellen (they/she; Assistant Professor in the Department of Anthropology at Stanford University and Co-Founder of the Society of Black Archaeologists). The two discuss Dr. Flewellen’s move to Stanford, how Dr. Flewellen’s research focus was entirely flipped on its head, and how they came back from that in a creative way. We also discuss the importance of standardizing excavation for future use as legacy collections. Finally, we discussed the oral history work that they are doing with Diving with a Purpose and even as a cultural anthropologist their methodology was one I had never heard of before!

Links

• Heritage Voices on the APN
• Black Feminist Plenary session
• Ayana Omilade Flewellen
• Ayana Omilade Flewellen | Department of Anthropology
• Society of Black Archaeologists: The Future of Archaeology Starts Here
• www.divingwithapurpose.org
• An Aural Ethnography of Black Breath: Soundscapes at Submerged Heritage Sites of Enslavement Open Access Ayana Omilade Flewellen liquid blackness (2025) 9 (1): 106–117
• Archaeology in the Community Website
• Watch: "Archaeology in the Time of Black Lives Matter"
• “The Future of Archaeology Is Antiracist”: Archaeology in the Time of Black Lives Matter | American Antiquity | Cambridge Core
• ‘Lessons from the water’ on healing, history and finding freedom from fear | CNN
• Youtube Video
• Youtube Video

Dr. Flewellen

• [email protected]
• @‌illegible_musings on Instagram

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Jessica

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• @livingheritageA

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• APN Website: https://www.archpodnet.com
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After being part of two panel episodes (Heritage Voices Episode 79: The Intensive NAGPRA Summer Training and Education Program (INSTEP) and Episode 92: The 2024 Updated NAGPRA Regulations, Jessica finally got to sit down with Chance Ward (NAGPRA Collections Specialist at History Colorado; enrolled citizen and tribal member of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe) for a one on one episode. During this episode we talk about how Chance first heard about anthropology during his time at Fort Lewis College, his time doing CRM work, and why he chose to switch to Museum Studies. We talked about a couple of projects that are near to his heart, including a workbook for Indigenous young people on CRM, how it affects Tribes, and why it is important to be involved and a couple of papers on the ethical treatment of animal remains. Lastly we talked about his approach in his current position and his advice for how other museum professionals can better work with Tribal Nations.

Links

• Heritage Voices on the APN
• Toward Legal, Ethical, and Culturally Informed Care of Animal Remains in American Museum Collections | Advances in Archaeological Practice | Cambridge Core
• Horse nations: After the Spanish conquest, horses transformed Native American tribes much earlier than historians thought
• Early dispersal of domestic horses into the Great Plains and northern Rockies
• What is a Rebuilder? - Native Governance Center
• History Colorado Website
• Lost Highways
• Chance Ward's LinkedIn Page

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Jessica

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This Heritage Voices episode features Ms. Betty Kimble and Mr. Howard Clark from Denton, Texas. In Episode 99 with Dr. Maria Franklin, Dr. Alex Menaker, and Doug Boyd, we started talking about the Bolivar Archaeological Project and the excavation of Mr. Tom Cook’s blacksmith shop. For the 100th episode of the Heritage Voices podcast (!), Jessica chats with Ms. Betty Kimble and Mr. Howard Clark who are direct descendants of Mr. Tom Cook. We talk about what it was like learning more about their family history through this project, seeing the artifacts from their ancestor found during the archaeology study, participating in and conducting oral history interviews, and how they have been sharing with the community about this important history. Their family story highlights so many different eras of American history. On that front, we were particularly lucky to have Ms. Betty Kimble share her work in the 1960s working with other mothers on desegregation through the Denton’s Women’s Interracial Fellowship.

Links

• Heritage Voices on the APN
• Ms. Betty Kimble’s story in Desegregating Denton
• Article about Mr. Howard Clark’s 30 years with the Lewisville Police Department
• Excellent video about the Bolivar Archaeological Project
• Texas Department of Transportation Webpage about the Bolivar Archaeological Project
• Easy to read article about Mr. Tom Cook’s Legacy
• At the Intersections of History: Collaborative, Public Archaeology of the Nineteenth-Century Tom Cook Blacksmith Shop along the Chisholm Trail in Bolivar, Texas (Article in Advances in Archaeological Practice)
• Presentation to the North Texas Archaeological Society about the Chisolm Trail and Bolivar Archaeological Project
• The Denton County Office of History and Culture
• Quakertown House Museum (DCOHC)
• I crisscrossed America to talk to people whose views I disagreed with. I now have one certainty

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Jessica

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