Star Trek The Next Conversation

Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda

Podcast… the final frontier! "Star Trek: The Next Generation" devotee and authority Matt Mira leads Next Gen skeptic Andrew Secunda into the deepest reaches of the series episode by episode. Listen as they discuss, debate, and enjoy all the legendary show's strengths, failings, and innovations. Email us! [email protected] Twitter: @StarTrekTNC Web: startrektnc.com

  • 2 hours 13 minutes
    DS9 s4e12 "Paradise Lost"

    Is a badmiral trying to Make Earth Great Again? Has Avery Brooks finally found a plot to match the size of his performance? And can he outsmart Not Nick Lacarno from Not Nova Squadron? Either way, Not Leah Brahms may save the day!

    Happy Gratitude festival, crew! We are gratitudinal for all of you.

    [Episode discussion begins around 1:15]

    23 December 2025, 3:00 am
  • 2 hours 2 minutes
    DS9 s4e11 "Homefront"

    Dangers abound back in Sector 001 and that means it's time for a Sisko family vay-cay! Ben and his dad perform at the top of their lungs, Odo escapes Dax's merciless bullying to go seagull-to-seagull with the changelings, while Leah Brahms returns in her secret identity!

    [Episode discussion begins around 50:00]

    2 December 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 2 hours 17 minutes
    DS9 s4e10 "Our Man Bashir"

    Is Bashir the greatest Bond of all? If so, nobody tell Cubby Broccoli's legal department!

    [Episode discussion begins around 1:01]

    18 November 2025, 1:00 am
  • 2 hours 5 minutes
    DS9 s4e9 "The Sword of Kahless"

    Worf joins Dax and his celebrity crush Kor for the grandest adventure of all until the Klingons go inexplicably insane.

    [Episode discussion begins around 58:00]

    3 November 2025, 8:00 pm
  • 1 hour 59 minutes
    DS9 s4e8 "Little Green Men"

    In this delightful time-travel romp, the Ferengi trio jaunt over to apparently nearby Earth and find themselves Roswelled! And does Odo/James Cromwell eat/murder a dog? Matt and Andy discuss!

    [Episode discussion begins around 1:02, MAN OF STEEL and Donner SUPERMAN spoilers around 28:00ish]

    24 October 2025, 7:00 pm
  • 2 hours 45 minutes
    DS9 s4e7 "Starship Down"

    Sisko is out of commission, Kira finally learns how to treat him like a regular friend and not with all the reverence due the Emissary (had she been doing that?), Worf plays out the ol' "person suddenly in command who needs to learn how to be command" trope, and Bashir and Dax get cracking on retconning Bashir. But don't forget about Odo! Actually, you probably can except for one scene.

    [Episode discussion begins around 1:23 - for a whopping 2:45 for a regular episode! Mostly nonsense.]

    13 October 2025, 7:00 pm
  • 2 hours 11 minutes
    DS9 s4e6 "Rejoined"

    Dax decides between a hook-up with the Borg Queen (sorta) or exile. Is resistance futile? And Matt and Andy ask (Seinfeld voice) "WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH TRILLS?"

    [Episode discussion begins around 49:00]

    30 September 2025, 7:00 pm
  • 2 hours 12 minutes
    DS9 s4e5 "Indiscretion"

    Can two DS9 characters have a conversation without it being about Kasidy Yates? Not many of these scenes pass the Yates test! And does Dukat have a heart, and if so is it filled with cold blood?

    [Episode discussion begins around 1:10]

    17 September 2025, 7:30 pm
  • 2 hours 28 minutes
    DS9 s4e4 "Hippocratic Oath"

    Bashir and O'Brien go head-to-head about whether to save some Jem'Hadar while Matt and Andy go head-to-head with the TNC crew about whether "The Visitor" is heartbreaking or just okay.

    [Episode discussion begins around 1:22]

    23 August 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 2 hours 20 minutes
    DS9 s4e3 "The Visitor"

    Candyman Tony Todd appears as Jake Sisko through the ages - and in some insane age make-up! Todd and Avery Brooks also go head-to-head in a real theatrical-acting-off! Meanwhile Matt asks the question - couldn’t somebody at Starfleet have helped Jake with any of this? 

    [Episode discussion begins 1:13ish. Voyager spoiler at 13:50ish for those who practice. OR IS IT NOT EVEN A SPOILER BECAUSE WE’VE WATCHED IT?]

    18 August 2025, 9:30 pm
  • 2 hours 53 minutes
    DS9 s4e1/s4e2 "The Way of the Warrior, Parts I and II"

    Matt and Andy finally watch the arrival of Worf to DS9, as the MVC song prophesied. And boy, did everybody made a big deal out of Sisko's shaved head and the arrival of Worf being harbingers of awesomeness for the show...... but maybe they didn't make a BIG ENOUGH deal of how awesome it was about to get?

    [Episode discussion begins around 52 minutes in]

    8 July 2025, 4:00 pm
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