Robert and Holly talk about starting off a new year slowly (6:23): why it might be important (7:32), some practical ideas for being proactive (13:23), and some tools to keep for along the way (27:08).

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- Ruth Haley Barton’s Embracing Rhythms of Work and Rest: From Sabbath to Sabbatical and Back Again

- CXMH ep. 57 - Why We Need Better Sleep (& How to Get It) (feat. Dr. Michael Scullin)

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.

Content warning: this episode contains mentions of suicide, miscarriage, and loss.



This week we’re joined by Dr. Mary Cail, author of Dementia and the Church: Memory, Care, and Inclusion and Alzheimer's: A Crash Course for Friends and Relatives. She explains why the church’s role can be so important in caring for those impacted by dementia, some basic steps to start in memory ministry, and why ‘informed compassion’ is so important.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- CXMH ep. 142 - People Living With Dementia and Their Caregivers (feat. Dr. Brianna Garrison & Dr. Dennis Myers)

Connect with Mary on her website, on Facebook, or on Instagram. Buy Dementia and the Church: Memory, Care, and Inclusion on Amazon.

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.

This week Dr. Becky Bell Scott joins us to talk about integrating behavioral health into primary care settings. Dr. Scott is the Program Director for Social Work in Primary Care Programs at Baylor University.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- the Hogg Foundation for Mental Health

- Collaborative Family Healthcare Association

- the Behavioral Health Consultant Certificate Course that Dr. Scott teaches

- Trauma-Focused CBT Certification program

- Parent-Child Interaction Therapy (PCIT)

- the Unified Protocol Institute

- The National Child Traumatic Stress Network

- iCare Collaborative

- a NYT article on how to find a therapist

Connect with Dr. Scott on her faculty page.

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.

This week we’re joined by Aureila Dávila Pratt: pastor, social work graduate, and author of A Brown Girl's Epiphany: Reclaim Your Intuition and Step into Your Power. We talk about stepping out of harmful paradigms and stepping into helpful ones.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- CXMH ep. 41 - Putting the Revolution Back In Racial Reconciliation (feat. Austin Channing Brown)

- CXMH ep. 129 - Healing Our Internal World, Spiritual Practices, & Moving Beyond Empire Theology (feat. Lisa Colón DeLay)

Connect with Rev. Pratt on her website, on Instagram, or on Twitter. Listen to the Nuance Tea podcast.

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.

This week, Holly interviews Robert! We talk about how we define adolescence, why it’s such an important time of life, and three specific shifts in our understanding that can be helpful when working with adolescents. This one’s for the parents, teachers, youth workers, therapists, and more!

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- Age Of Opportunity: Lessons from the New Science of Adolescence by Laurence Steinberg

- Inventing Ourselves: The Secret Life of the Teenage Brain by Sarah-Jayne Blakemore

- Books by Dr. Lisa Damour:

- - Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls

- - Untangled: Guiding Teenage Girls Through the Seven Transitions into Adulthood

- - The Emotional Lives of Teenagers: Raising Connected, Capable, and Compassionate Adolescents

- Dr. Damour’s podcast: Ask Lisa: The Psychology of Parenting

- Parenting a Teen Who Has Intense Emotions: DBT Skills to Help Your Teen Navigate Emotional and Behavioral Challenges by Pat Harvey and Britt H. Rathbone

- The Teenage Brain: A Neuroscientist's Survival Guide to Raising Adolescents and Young Adults by Frances E. Jensen, MD

- CXMH ep. 168 - Our Teens are Sleep-Deprived (& It's Hurting Their Mental Health) (feat. Lisa L. Lewis)

- CXMH ep. 109 - Teens, Stress, & Mindfulness (feat. Gina Biegel)

- CXMH ep. 70 - Teens, Anxiety, & Self-Esteem (feat. Lisa Schab)

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.

Our favorite epidemiologist, Dr. Emily Smith, returns to the show this week for the first time since November 2020! She talks with us about her new book, The Science of the Good Samaritan: Thinking Bigger about Loving Our Neighbors.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- CXMH ep. 116 - Loving Your Neighbor During a Pandemic (feat. Dr. Emily Smith)

Connect with Dr. Smith on her SubStack, on Facebook, on Instagram, or buy her new book The Science of the Good Samaritan: Thinking Bigger about Loving Our Neighbors.

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.

This week Kayla Craig returns (having previously been on episode 134) to talk about her new book, Every Season Sacred: Reflections, Prayers, and Invitations to Nourish Your Soul and Nurture Your Family throughout the Year . We talk about praying with your kids, finding what works, how seasons shape us, and more. Kayla is the creator of Liturgies for Parents.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- CXMH ep. 134 - Prayers & Liturgies for Parents (feat. Kayla Craig)

- the free resources Kayla is giving CXMH listeners, including conversation cards, sample chapters, daily prayers, and a Spotify playlist.

Connect with Kayla on her website, on Facebook, Substack, Spotify, Instagram, or GoodReads. Buy Every Season Sacred: Reflections, Prayers, and Invitations to Nourish Your Soul and Nurture Your Family throughout the Year or her first book, To Light Their Way.

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.

To kick off season 8, we’re joined by Dr. Merideth Hite Estevez. Dr. Estevez talks to us about using creativity to reconnect with spirituality, recovering from burnout, and why inspiration should replace shame as the basis of education. Dr. Estevez is a professional oboist, founder of The Artists Joy, and author of The Artist's Joy: A Guide to Getting Unstuck, Embracing Imperfection, and Loving Your Creative Life.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- The Artist’s Way: A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity by Julia Cameron

- Artists For Joy podcast episode: ‘Burnout’

- Artists for Joy podcast episode: ‘Listen to this when you feel burnt out’

Connect with Meredith on her website, Facebook, Instagram, or Threads. Preorder The Artist's Joy: A Guide to Getting Unstuck, Embracing Imperfection, and Loving Your Creative Life. Listen to the Artists For Joy podcast here.

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.

Robert and Holly return to kick off Season 8 of CXMH!

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- CXMH ep. Recast - Getting the Rest You Actually Need (feat. Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith)

- CXMH ep. 168 - Our Teens are Sleep-Deprived (& It's Hurting Their Mental Health) (feat. Lisa L. Lewis)

- CXMH ep. 169 - Enneagram Stances, Balance, & Moving Towards Wholeness (feat. Suzanne Stabile)

- CXMH ep. 163 - Mr. Rogers, Hospital Chaplaincy, & Living as a Holistic Story (feat. Rick Lee James)

- CXMH ep. 166 - Humility in a Narcissistic World (feat. Dr. Daryl Van Tongeren)

- CXMH ep. 159 - Creativity, Faith, & Mental Health (feat. Stephen Roach)

- CXMH ep. 158 - Peace as a Practice (feat. Morgan Harper Nichols)

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Connect with Holly on her website, Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram, or buy her book The Soul of the Helper: Seven Stages to Seeing the Sacred Within Yourself So You Can See It in Others.

Connect more with CXMH on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.

We (Robert & Holly) reflect on Season 7, what we’ve learned over the past year (from the show and our lives), and look ahead to the summer.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- Check out all the episodes from Season 7 and beyond on our episodes page!

- specific episodes we mention (in order of mention):

- CXMH ep. 170 - Felt Safety, Honoring Our Needs, & the Flow of Strength (feat. Aundi Kolber)

- CXMH ep. 162 - Celebrating One Year of The Soul of the Helper (feat. Dr. Holly Oxhandler)

- CXMH ep. 165 - Trauma-Informed Preaching (feat. Dr. Sarah Travis)

- CXMH ep. 164 - Self-Harm: Compassionate Understanding & Healing (feat. Dr. Janis Whitlock)

- Robert mentions a quote from Dr. Lisa Damour

- CXMH ep. 111 - Thriving in Adversity, Blooming in the Dark (feat. Dr. Michelle Pearce)

- CXMH ep. 55 - CBT for Christians (feat. Dr. Michelle Pearce)

- CXMH ep. 85 - Why & How Should Therapists Talk About Faith? (feat. Dr. Cassandra Vieten)

- CXMH ep. 58 - Religious Coping Skills: Good, Bad, or Both? (feat. Dr. Kenneth Pargament)

- CXMH ep. 132 - Moral Injury (feat. Dr. Joseph Currier)

- CXMH ep. 91 - Spiritual Bypassing (feat. Dr. Jesse Fox)

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Connect more with CXMH on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or Pinterest.

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.

We’re closing out Season 7 with one of our favorite people! Therapist and author Aundi Kolber is back to talk about her new book, Strong like Water: Finding the Freedom, Safety, and Compassion to Move through Hard Things--and Experience True Flourishing. We talk about why feeling safe matters, what our window of tolerance is, how the idea of our container can help, and how to navigate those things by trying softer.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:

- Aundi’s first book, Try Softer: A Fresh Approach to Move Us out of Anxiety, Stress, and Survival Mode--and into a Life of Connection and Joy

- The Try Softer Guided Journey: A Soulful Companion to Healing

- CXMH ep. 89 - Trying Softer, Self Compassion, & Moving from Survival to Joy (feat. Aundi Kolber)

- CXMH ep. 42 - Everyday Grief & Learning to Feel Feelings (feat. Aundi Kolber)

- CXMH ep. 32 - Trauma, Attachment, & Creating Safety (feat. Aundi Kolber)

- CXMH ep. 144 - Embodiment, Healing, & Working With Our Bodies (feat. Dr. Hillary McBride)

- CXMH ep. 124 - Nervous Systems, Bottom-Up Safety, & Learning from Each Other (feat. Nia Baker)

- CXMH ep. 153 - How to Be a Trauma-Informed Community (feat. Dr. Amy Marschall)

Connect with Aundi on her website, on Facebook, on Instagram, or on Twitter.

Buy Strong like Water: Finding the Freedom, Safety, and Compassion to Move through Hard Things--and Experience True Flourishing on Amazon. Buy her other books on Amazon.

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Connect more with CXMH on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or Pinterest.

Ways to support CXMH:

- make a pledge on Patreon and get rewards like submitting questions for upcoming interviews, a mug, sticker, t-shirt, or more!

- give a one-time gift using PayPal

- Buy books from previous guests on Bookshop

- Do your Amazon shopping through this link

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- Check out our CXMH merchandise to show off your support

- Check out other episodes and find your favorites guests on our website.

Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.