SCL Australia Podcast

Society of Construction Law Australia

The Society of Construction Law Australia Podcast features industry and legal professionals discussing issues that are front of mind in the Australian construction sector, including content presented at our national events and conference, as well as industry interviews - find us on Twitter @SCLAust.

  • 31 minutes 50 seconds
    Why construction is still slow to adopt AI, with Elena Stojcevski and Veno Panicker

    Elena Stojcevski and Veno Panicker are Partners in Construction and Infrastructure at Hamilton Locke.

    In this episode, they discuss why the construction industry has been slow to adopt AI despite its transformative potential. The conversation covers productivity challenges, procurement models, and barriers such as cost, risk aversion, and data silos.

    Elena and Veno also examine how AI could improve planning, design, and contract management for mega projects like the Brisbane 2032 Olympics - while addressing legal risks, governance issues, and the future of work in construction.


    Resources and links:

    Elena Stojcevski on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-stojcevski-05a98233/

    Veno Panicker on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/veno-panicker-76738650/

    Hamilton Locke website:  https://hamiltonlocke.com.au/


    Connect:

    The Society of Construction Law Australia website: https://www.scl.org.au/

    The Society of Construction Law Australia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/society-of-construction-law-australia/


    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.


    This show is produced in collaboration with SoundCartel. Visit soundcartel.com.au for more information.

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    20 April 2026, 2:01 pm
  • 42 minutes 4 seconds
    The Challenger disaster, the Tesseract decision and the role of academia in project success, with Cara North, Eleanor Clifford, Sean Brady and Wayne Jocic

    In this special episode ahead of the 2026 SoCLA National Conference in Sydney, this episode features four speakers from our most recent conference in Brisbane. In the first interview Cara North and Eleanor Clifford unpack their Brooking Prize winning paper exploring multi-party and multi-contract arbitrations and how the High Court’s decision in Tesseract changes risk allocation.

    Next, keynote speaker Sean Brady, reflects on the Challenger space shuttle disaster and highlights the lessons it can teach modern organisations about risk, safety systems and speaking up.

    Finally, academic Wayne Jocic explores how a principal’s unilateral power to extend time may affect contractors’ delay claims, and reflects on the relationship between academia and practice in construction law.

    Eleanor Clifford is an Associate at Corrs Chambers Westgarth. Cara North is a Special Counsel at Ashurst. At the time of recording Cara was a Special Counsel at Corrs Chambers Westgarth. As the winners of the 2024 Brooking Prize, Cara and Eleanor were invited to present paper at the 2025 SoCLA National Conference. The Society offers the Brooking Prize annually for the best essay submitted in the field of construction law. It is named after The Hon Robert Brooking AO KC in recognition of his Honour’s pioneering contribution to the study and practice of construction law in Australia.  

    Sean Brady is a forensic engineer and the Managing Director of Brady Heywood. Sean is also a director of the Society of Construction Law Australia.

    Wayne Jocic is Associate Professor and Co-Director of Studies at Melbourne Law School.


    Resources and links:

    All conference papers are available free to SoCLA members at scl.org.au.

    Cara North on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cara-north-76601332/

    Eleanor Clifford on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eleanor-clifford-4b33b4145/

    Sean Brady on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-brady-11a95427/

    Corrs Chambers Westgarth website: https://www.corrs.com.au/

    Brady Heywood Pty Ltd website: https://www.bradyheywood.com.au/

    Melbourne Law School website: https://law.unimelb.edu.au/


    Connect:

    The Society of Construction Law Australia website: https://www.scl.org.au/

    The Society of Construction Law Australia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/society-of-construction-law-australia/


    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.


    This show is produced in collaboration with SoundCartel. Visit soundcartel.com.au for more information.

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    6 April 2026, 2:01 pm
  • 37 minutes 23 seconds
    How contracts shape culture in construction, with Kiri Parr

    Kiri Parr is a construction lawyer and industry commentator focused on how procurement, contracting and risk allocation shape behaviour in the construction sector.

    In this episode, Kiri unpacks why “culture” in construction can’t be fixed in isolation - because structures drive culture. She explains how risk-shifting D&C contracts reward time-and-cost decision-making over quality and safety, suppress technical innovation, and reduce owners’ technical capability.

    Kiri also challenges the role lawyers have normalised as “risk goons”, arguing we’re trained in failure rather than success. Finally, she shares practical lenses for better outcomes, from behavioural science to complex systems thinking, and why collaborative contracting offers a path to a better industry.


    Resources and links:

    Kiri Parr on LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/kiriparr

    Kiri Parr Advisory website: https://kiriparr.com/


    Connect:

    The Society of Construction Law Australia website: https://www.scl.org.au/

    The Society of Construction Law Australia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/society-of-construction-law-australia/


    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.


    This show is produced in collaboration with SoundCartel. Visit soundcartel.com.au for more information.

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    23 March 2026, 1:01 pm
  • 18 minutes 15 seconds
    Amending Less, Building More: Why Australia Needs Truly Standard Contracts, with Adam Perl

    Adam Perl is a construction partner at Pinsent Masons and a leading voice in construction law reform.

    In this episode, Adam unpacks the structural drivers behind Australia’s high infrastructure and construction costs. The conversation explores the industry’s productivity challenges, the consequences of lowest-price tendering, and why Australia’s unit costs are among the highest globally.

    Adam also examines how extensive amendments to standard contracts contribute to complexity, inefficiency, and disputes. He discusses whether greater contract standardisation could improve productivity and enable better outcomes for public infrastructure investment, alongside the governance and institutional barriers that have slowed reform.


    Resources and links:


    Adam Perl on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-p-8a922a14/
    Pinsent Masons website: https://www.pinsentmasons.com/


    Connect:


    The Society of Construction Law Australia website: https://www.scl.org.au/
    The Society of Construction Law Australia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/society-of-construction-law-australia/


    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.


    This show is produced in collaboration with SoundCartel. Visit soundcartel.com.au for more information.

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    9 March 2026, 1:01 pm
  • 19 minutes 30 seconds
    Why late payment still drives so many construction disputes

    Blake Frost is a Partner at HopgoodGanim, where he leads the firm’s Construction practice.

    In this episode, Blake explores why late payment remains at the heart of many construction disputes. He also unpacks the Queensland security of payment regime, explains how extended timeframes and jurisdictional error challenges have shifted adjudication away from its original purpose, and examines the growing intersection between construction law and insolvency. Blake also shares practical reform ideas - from faster adjudication to rethinking payment in arrears - and reflects on how smarter payment practices could improve project outcomes across the industry.

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    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.


    This show is produced in collaboration with SoundCartel. Visit soundcartel.com.au for more information.

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    23 February 2026, 1:01 pm
  • 35 minutes 5 seconds
    Delivering safe offshore wind projects, with Kelly-Ann Ee

    Kelly-Ann Ee is the Head of Health, Safety and Environment at Star of the South, bringing more than a decade of experience working across offshore wind projects in global markets.

    In this episode, Kelly-Ann unpacks why safety culture is such a critical part of delivering complex energy infrastructure. The conversation explores the challenges of applying consistent safety standards across different markets and the role of data and innovation in improving outcomes. Kelly-Ann also discusses workforce diversity, including the importance of gender representation, and how blending local culture with global best practice can strengthen safety in the offshore wind sector.

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    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.

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    9 February 2026, 1:01 pm
  • 32 minutes 56 seconds
    Limiting Liability for Faulty Tender Information: Is there a better way? With Lucas Shipway

    Lucas Shipway is a Barrister at Greenway Chambers, with a practice focused on construction and infrastructure disputes.

    In this episode, Lucas breaks down his presentation "Limiting Liability for Faulty Tender Information: Is there a better way?". He covers the Sydney Light Rail's $500 million dispute over undisclosed utilities, how government disclaimers fail to protect against misleading conduct claims, and recommendations for more transparent and collaborative tender processes to reduce disputes.

     

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    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.


    This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.

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    26 January 2026, 1:01 pm
  • 24 minutes 53 seconds
    Is Queensland ready to rethink liability, with Emily Ng

    Emily Ng is Special Counsel in the Construction, Infrastructure, and Projects team at Holding Redlich, where she advises on the full project lifecycle for major energy, resources, and infrastructure developments.

    In this episode, Emily discusses the struggle of achieving work-life balance, particularly as a new mother in the industry. She unpacks Queensland’s proportionate liability regime and why she believes its current prohibition on contracting out is worth rethinking. Finally, Emily also breaks down the High Court’s Tesseract decision, exploring how it affects proportionate liability in arbitration and the strategies parties should consider moving forward. 

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    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.


    This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.

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    12 January 2026, 1:01 pm
  • 56 minutes 24 seconds
    Reforming construction law for consistency, with Sean Kelly

    Sean Kelly is a Partner at Clayton Utz. Sean focuses on major projects and construction, and he has extensive experience in project delivery and dispute resolution.

    In this episode, Sean takes us through significant changes in construction law. He discusses the rationale for the changes, the nationwide discrepancies in adjudication, and how the excluded amounts regime seeks to address them. Sean also leaves us with important clarifications on how the laws will be applied, who they will apply to, and to what extent.

     

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    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.


    This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.

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    29 December 2025, 1:01 pm
  • 45 minutes 2 seconds
    How lawyers and engineers can work together better, with Dr. Paul Tracey

    Dr Paul Tracey is a Senior Fellow at the University of Melbourne Law School. Paul teaches at both undergraduate and postgraduate levels in construction law, as well as leading the Construction Law and Practice programme at the University of Salford.

    In this episode, Dr Tracey explores Cross-cultural collaboration. He breaks down how a power station project in Gaza became the catalyst for his research, compares Australian culture with other cultures, and gives advice on how to better prepare students for collaborating with people from different cultures.

     

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    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.


    This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.

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    15 December 2025, 1:01 pm
  • 15 minutes 26 seconds
    Conference collection: The rest is… liquidated damages, with Matthew Bell and Trevor Thomas

    Earlier this year at the annual Society of Construction Law Australia conference in Brisbane, we caught up with panellists and moderators from around Australia to discuss the biggest issues in the industry today.

    Matthew Bell is an Associate Professor and Co-director for Studies for Construction Law at Melbourne Law School, and Trevor Thomas is a Partner at Corr Chambers Westgarth. 

    In this episode, Matthew and Trevor debrief their entertaining presentation on liquidated damages, where they used AI to create their own episode of The Rest is History. They also talk about the intricacies of low-value liquidated damage and its implications for drafting relevant clauses. 

     

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    Disclaimer:

    The views and opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of the individual contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Society of Construction Law Australia (SoCLA). The content is provided for general informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, professional, or other advice. Listeners should consider their own circumstances and seek appropriate advice from qualified professionals before acting on any information contained in this podcast.


    This show is produced in collaboration with Wavelength Creative. Visit wavelengthcreative.com for more information.

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    1 December 2025, 1:01 pm
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