Print Run Podcast

Erik Hane and Laura Zats

Beyond the cover. Between the Lines.

  • 18 minutes 33 seconds
    Episode 182—Print Run Goes Nano
    Episode 182—Print Run Goes Nano by Erik Hane and Laura Zats
    24 October 2025, 4:14 pm
  • 49 minutes 42 seconds
    Episode 181—Tote Bag Mindset
    This week we evaluate the pervasive notion that “literary” or “challenging” fiction is going away, and what that means for our reading culture more broadly in age where the AI slop is only becoming more prevalent. It’s a convo about genre, category, selling versus writing categories, and much more. Join us!
    12 September 2025, 2:43 pm
  • 56 minutes 1 second
    Episode 180—Can Agents Read?
    This week we took a look at a substack piece (link below!) that argued that literary agents can’t or don’t read well, as a jumping-off point to discuss the big picture of the query process, the ways we sort through a high volume of submissions, when art becomes boring business emails, and much more. We can read, we promise! The piece in question is here: https://antipodes.substack.com/p/literary-agents-dont-read-how-i-proved
    1 August 2025, 5:25 pm
  • 53 minutes 15 seconds
    Episode 179—The Psychologisode
    This week, Laura got mad enough at Erik’s approach to his creative life that she’s devoting an episode to psychoanalyzing him and his writing practices. What could go wrong!
    27 June 2025, 3:31 pm
  • 59 minutes 23 seconds
    Episode 178—The One About (Un)bound(less)
    In light of the recent revelations about Unbound/Boundless’s failure to pay their debts to their authors, we talked about what went wrong, what flawed publishing impulse these mistakes come from, and the importance of publishing companies not pursuing growth at all costs. We also yell a little bit about AI. Come unpack the horrors with us!
    6 June 2025, 4:47 pm
  • 44 minutes 24 seconds
    Episode 177—The Jimmies, The Rock, The Tariffs
    This week…. Well folks there’s not much to say other than that we were pretty loose, given the general state of things in both publishing and beyond. We talk about MrBeast getting eight figures for a book, Dwayne The Rock Johnson being a True Crime Girlie, and the tariffs that promise to upend the publishing industry. Come hang out and blow off some steam with us.
    3 April 2025, 12:00 am
  • 35 minutes 57 seconds
    Episode 176—Co-ops as the Way Forward
    This week we look at the announcement of a fascinating new agreement between eight small publishers that revolves around sharing shipping costs as a way to discuss the concept of cooperation in our industry; what do co-op initiatives like this do for the survival of independent publishing–or agenting, or writing, or anything else outside the industry’s largest corporate structures? We talk about how cooperation actually exists in opposition to consolidation, and the ways moves like this can actually free up the ability to take editorial and artistic risks.
    20 March 2025, 12:00 am
  • 1 hour 7 minutes
    Episode 175—What We Owe Each Other
    In response to an excellent listener question, today we’re talking about how writers can approach asking potential agents about how they might handle specific aspects of their lives–whether that’s gender or sexual identity, disability, pregnancy or possible pregnancy, and much more–that could affect their publishing journey. We are in an age where all of us are growing increasingly vulnerable in different ways to what feels like a genuine fascist cultural backslide–this means that we all owe each other more solidarity, that our publishing relationships must account for the different ways in which we could become exposed to risk or harm. This is a big episode on “what we owe each other”: what agents owe writers, what publishers owe writers, what anyone who works in publishing owes anyone else in terms of helping all of us stay safe and protected from an increasingly dangerous world.
    20 February 2025, 12:00 am
  • 52 minutes 45 seconds
    Episode 174—The Subgenre is YOU
    This week we use one of publishing’s favorite new portmanteaus–romantasy–to talk about the fluid nature of genre and subgenre, and discuss the ways in which these endless classifications can help bring new readers into a given category of book, as well as what drawbacks occur when we get more and more specific with our book taxonomy. We arrive at a key conclusion: the thing being categorized is not the book, but rather its readers. Join us!
    7 February 2025, 12:00 am
  • 49 minutes 27 seconds
    Episode 173—The Manuscript Wish List at the End of the World
    We don’t need to tell you that the world feels pretty dark right now. The question then becomes: as creatives, as publishing people, as writers, readers, agents, whatever–what are we looking for to get us through? This episode we talk about what we’re hoping to see from and get out of art and publishing this next stretch, when all feels lost but we’re forging ahead anyway. Join us while we look for the light in the dark!
    24 January 2025, 12:00 am
  • 48 minutes 44 seconds
    Episode 172—The End of the Social Media Marketing Era
    This week we talk about the functional death of social media as a promotional tool in the publishing industry. Now that we all agree that these platforms are actively corrosive to not only our body politic but literary culture specifically, where do we go next? What forms of cultural production might actually get people excited about books again, once we detach ourselves from the Slop Machines? We explore that vision and more. Join us!
    17 January 2025, 12:00 am
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