Joining me today is Dr. Chester Soko, he has an impressive background, not only in practical applications but also in academia and research.

With over 15 years of training experience, Dr. Soko combines his experiential knowledge with his academic background. He holds a PhD, is a Certified Sports Nutritionist (CISSN), and is a Certified Personal Trainer (CPT).

In today’s episode we dig into what Chester considers is overrated & underrated for hypertrophy. Everything from training with aggression & using compression gear to muscle activation & oxidative stress. Tonnes of knowledge & practical insight to be gained from today's chat.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:30 Who is chester?

04:54 Overrated & underrated things for hypertrophy

09:30 Tracking rest periods

13:22 Underrated variables: Compression

20:28 Training aggression

32:16 Pushing yourself as a skill

36:57 Overrated variables

40:42 Neuromechanical matching/Muscle activation

45:42 Contrarian for the sake of it

49:14 Training Volume

54:03 Oxidatitve stress

56:15 Periodisation for hypertrophy

01:02:40 Conclusion

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This week I chat with Dr Brandon Roberts all about his current natural bodybuilding prep.

He’s just stepped off stage & has another show in a week. We dive into all things from peak week, step counts, posing & much much more. Plus I get his updated thoughts surrounding protein timing, amounts & the importance of leucine given recent literature that’s come out on the topic.

Lots of gold to be found inside for a bodybuilding enthusiast.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:28 Brandon's prep and history

11:06 Competing against others

13:42 Step counts

14:56 Being cold all the time

18:16 Posing practice

22:48 Posing in the offseason

26:41 Peak Week

28:38 More than 1 show

36:01 Bodybuilding shows and expectations

40:59 Conditioning goals

46:52 Current training split

49:37 Muscle Loss

51:41 Protein intake

55:12 Protein intake study and new evidence

59:49 Leucine threshold

01:02:38 Vegan diet and pork

01:06:06 Anything new that is interesting?

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Mike Israetel joins me this week for a massive 2 hour catch up!

We discuss the challenges of body and muscle dysmorphia - how to identify it and work through it. Mike also opens up about his personal journey, including shifting his focus away from hardcore bodybuilding, reducing supplement use, and changing his approach to leg training. We also chat about his experiences on huge platforms like The Diary of a CEO and his plans for RP as it continues to grow.

Plus, much, much more! You don’t want to miss this one.

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00:00 Intro

01:08 The Mike Hype!

02:45 Movie stars and transformations

11:12 Female physique development and extrapolation of risks

22:09 Body modification

31:33 Symptoms of body dysmorphia

40:22 Body Dysmorphia amongst pro bodybuilders

51:04 Sel-reflection and projecting on others

55:52 Body dysmorphia in others

01:01:27 Appreciation and self-love

01:08:36 Using negativity as a driver?

01:15:41 Futile mentality

01:20:25 The championship mentality

01:25:48 Identity shift

01:48:34 Evolving and setting new goals

01:57:20 Accomplishments

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 @RenaissancePeriodization 

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In this episode, I share 10 key lessons from my fitness and bodybuilding journey. We discuss why the big principles in training and nutrition stay constant, even as experts debate the finer details. I highlight the importance of personal preference, the slow and steady approach to bulking, and the significant role of genetics.

We also explore why chasing 'optimal' can be misleading and how science offers clues rather than definitive answers. Plus, learn how to train as hard and as often as possible for maximum growth. These insights will help you navigate your own fitness path!

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

03:12 The big principles don’t change

05:43 Experts agree on the big principles but disagree on the smaller variables

08:51 There are many roads to Rome - there are really no shortcuts

13:53 A lot of diet & training differences can come down to personal preference & that is more important than any small optimality you’re attempting to get - optimal is a fallacy

18:36 Bulking isn’t dead but it should be done slowly

26:15 There are some excellent rules of thumb out there, but you have to focus on the individual at hand to get the best results

31:17 Science is never providing answers, but clues & pushing us further to the truth

37:12 Genetics matter a lot!

46:35 To grow your best you want to train as hard as you can, as often as you can, for as long as you can

53:27 Whilst the big principles don’t change, we’re learning more all the time

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In this episode of the Revive Stronger Podcast, I sit down with Josh Pelland to explore the concept of muscle re-sensitization.

We discuss why muscles may stop growing efficiently over time, the role of adaptive resistance, and how to combat these issues with effective training strategies.Josh breaks down key research findings, the importance of variation in training, and offers practical advice for implementing re-sensitization techniques to keep muscles progressing and avoid plateaus.

Whether you're an athlete or a coach, this episode will provide valuable insights to help you maximize your training results.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

01:54 What is re-sensitisation?

06:48 Why may resensisation phases me beneficial?

14:01 What led to the resensitisation effects?

18:57 What does the current evidence suggest?

23:02 Periodisation for hypertrophy

25:56 Anecdotal evidence

30:36 Staleness

35:33 Mentaility surrounding programming

40:50 Feasibility of training volume

43:56 Training quality

51:07 MEV and resensitising

55:59 How the concept should be used

01:23 Plans in the pipeline

01:03:06 Time away from training for connective tissues and joint health

01:07:21 Matching outcome time off vs. training

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Today I talk to Kassem Hansen about all things range of motion and hypertrophy, specifically why the recent study looking at full rom vs. lengthened partials study ‘doomed to fail?’

Kassem will answer what would be the wrong way to interpret the recent study and why? Importantly giving you the right way to use the research that’s been coming out on range of motion and growth.

Lots of knowledge to learn and apply from today’s episode.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

02:16 What would be the wrong way to interpret the literature surrounding lengthened partials

14:48 Suggestion for study design

20:20 Who is applying the training?

24:51 Interpreting the findings

31:32 When to use partials

35:18 "Either/Or" question for Full Rom vs Lengthened Partials

42:07 Lengthened partials leading to more muscle damage?

50:58 Stress variations

54:01 Part 2: "Either/Or" question for Full Rom vs Lengthened Partials

01:04:51 Differences between calf raises

01:13:54 Last thoughts on the subject

01:17:23 Updates on Kas

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I welcome Dr Milo Wolf and Dr Pak back on the show to share some new research.

We have a preprint: lengthened partials reps elicit similar muscle adaptations as full range of motion during resistance training in trained individuals. They stated “one of the most important, well-powered, and ecologically valid to date.” — and we dig into exactly why that’s the case.

Study: https://sportrxiv.org/index.php/server/preprint/view/455

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

02:20 Pre-print for the most important study on lengthened partials

13:36 What's a trained individual?

16:01 How things are changing with this study?

23:45 Limiting factors of lengthened partials, how much of a difference was there and pre-perceived claims

37:02 What does the general evidence say and what's to come

40:14 What would a longer study show?

43:15 How to determine failure on lengthened partials

45:38 What people get wrong and why it's recommended to incorporate

53:30 Conclusion

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In this episode of the Revive Stronger Podcast, I sits down with Mario Tomic, a fitness coach with over 10 years of experience and more than 950 clients.

Mario shares how his business has evolved, what keeps him motivated to train, and the importance of fully dedicating yourself to your fitness goals without spreading yourself too thin. He also discusses common pitfalls that prevent people from seeing results and offers practical advice on making healthy habits a natural part of your life.

Tune in for insights on training, mindset, and building a sustainable, healthy lifestyle.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

02:37 How we met

07:30 How Mario's career evolved & developed

14:56 When experience becomes expertise. Happiness and success

21:06 Ever considered competing?

25:35 Maintaining an impressive physique

29:51 Drug use, social media and expectations

36:34 Cost of decisions

41:30 Mindset during stressful times

47:59 Fears and anxiety when dieting

50:54 Mentality and changing perspective

56:45 Identify as the person you want to be

01:01:53 Why people don't see results: Upside vs. downside paradigm

01:09:58 Where can you find more about Mario?

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Today I talk to Peter Fitschen; a natural pro bodybuilder & PhD in nutritional sciences. First, we'll catch up with Peter to hear how his offseason has been going, including how often he’s hitting personal records and the ways he tracks his progress.

Before diving into all things training whilst dieting and specifically how to manage the tail end of a contest prep. How can we expect our performance to go in the gym & how can we do our best to maintain it.

Whether you’re preparing for a competition or just looking to optimise your training during a dieting phase, this episode is packed with valuable advice.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

02:22 Learning through experience

10:34 Working with a coach or coaching yourself?

18:01 Pro card in Europe vs. US

23:23 How often to expect PR's

26:53 Progression method

30:04 The power of experience

35:02 Training whilst dieting

38:43 How does strength evolve during a cut

48:01 How to decide if performance dropping is concerning?

52:03 Exercise switching during a diet?

54:45 How to approach deloads during diets

58:07 Intra-workout nutrition and secrets of coaches

01:05:02 Future goals

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In this episode, I sit down with Joe Bennett, the Hypertrophy Coach, to discuss the importance of innovation in bodybuilding, the impact of AI on the fitness industry, and how his training methods might have benefited legends like Ronnie Coleman.

Joe also shares his insights on stability vs. free weights, the optimal depth for Romanian Deadlifts, the significance of muscle engagement and the pump, and his use of intensifiers in training.

Tune in for expert advice and practical tips from one of the leading figures in hypertrophy training.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

02:18 Re-inventing the wheel to avoid doing the "hard stuff"

13:10 How will and does Ai impact online coaching and fitness

18:42 Personal element of personal training

22:02 Could you have made Ronnie Coleman better?

30:28 Stability better for hypertrophy and seated leg curl vs lying leg curls

37:57 Physiology vs. biochemistry

48:13 RDL. How to do it and the misconception of ROM

58:44 Individual differences

01:01:32 Is the "feel" important?

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In this episode of the Revive Stronger Podcast, I sit down with Matt Ogus for his first-ever podcast appearance.

We explore what 'half natty' really means, the importance of mental health, and the lifelong lessons of training. Matt also shares his journey to earning a pro card, the significance of focusing on the process over the destination, and how he balances his intense bodybuilding prep with being a devoted father and husband.

Plus, Matt reveals his future ambitions in the bodybuilding world. Maybe an IFBB pro card is in his sights…Tune in for an inspiring conversation with one of the fitness industry's most well-known figures

Timestamps:

02:03 Weighted Vest, step counts and cardio

10:19 Placebo effect

12:29 Half Natty

19:34 Parenting and bodybuilding

22:52 Bodybuilding and impact on relationship

31:21 Bodybuilding is a long term sport. Any fallen off the wagon?

34:04 Strength progression, technique and numbers don't mean anything

37:24 What turning pro meant for Matt

45:38 Importance of bodybuilding

48:40 Gym session length

54:09 Anecdotal evidence and further education

56:06 Fake natty accusations

01:07:11 Dealing with haters

01:09:33 What's the goal now that you're a pro?

01:16:31 Being in control of your environment

01:26:59 Trusting the process and what bodybuilding actually is

01:31:37 Business goals

01:46:33 End chatter

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