You send people to training. They come back, and... nothing changes. So whose fault is that — the training? The trainer? The learner?

Actually, there's a fourth option: you.

There are two conversations every leader should be having around any training their team attends — one before, one after — and most of us aren't having either one consistently. In this episode, I walk through exactly what to say and ask in both conversations, so the training you're investing in actually turns into changed behavior.

If you've got newer frontline leaders you want to set up for success, this is exactly the gap our From Bud to Boss program is built to close. Learn more: https://kevineikenberry.com/bud-to-boss/

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About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere's).

About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.

How can leaders adapt their approach to give people what they need in each specific situation? In this episode, Kevin is joined by Suzie Bishop and Sam Shriver to revisit situational leadership and discuss why this decades-old model may be more relevant than ever. They explain how effective leadership begins by clearly identifying the task, skill, or behavior involved, then assessing an individual's ability, confidence, commitment, and motivation before choosing the right leadership response. Kevin, Suzie, and Sam discuss why no leadership style is inherently good or bad, how empowerment can feel like abandonment and direction can feel like micromanagement when misapplied, and why leaders must step beyond their comfort zones to serve others' needs.

Listen For

0:00 Why Situational Leadership still matters after 50 years 3:13 Why write this book now 5:17 The big idea: adaptability 6:50 What "situational" actually means 8:11 How the model got typecast — and where it's expanded 12:55 The primer: task, readiness, and the R1–R4 scale 15:49 Where leaders get "style" wrong 23:15 "Power is the battery of leadership" 25:56 Leading through disruptive change 28:34 Situational leadership in the age of AI 32:12 The best next step for your organization 36:11 What are you reading?

About Suzie & Sam Suzie Bishop and Sam Shriver are the authors of Situational Leadership®: The Model for Leading Others, Navigating Change, and Unlocking Performance. Suzie is an established leader in workplace education and leadership development, currently serving as Vice President of Product Development at The Center for Leadership Studies (CLS). She holds a Bachelor's degree in Communication and Media from North Carolina State University. A Certified Professional in Training Management (CPTM) and Stakeholder Centered Coach, Suzie is also a Marshall Goldsmith 100 Coach and a Thirty Under Thirty Leader recognized by Elliot Masie. Sam has over 45 years of experience with the Situational Leadership® Model, executive coaching, human behavior, and leadership development. A frequent contributor to industry publications, Sam also co-authors a leadership column with Marshall Goldsmith for Training Industry Magazine and publishes regular blogs, white papers, and articles on emerging trends in learning and development. His work has been recognized by Bersin, Brandon Hall, and the Association for Talent Development. Deeply inspired by his team's commitment to delivering transformative learning experiences, Sam focuses on reintroducing the Situational Leadership® Model to the next generation of leaders to help them build meaningful impact within their organizations.

CONNECT WITH Suzie Bishop and Sam Shriver Website: https://situational.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzie-bishop/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-shriver-6479763/

RESOURCES MENTIONED

• Situational Leadership: The Model for Leading Others, Navigating Change, and Unlocking Performance by Sam Shriver and Suzie Bishop
• Management of Organizational Behavior by Paul Hersey, Kenneth H. Blanchard, and Dewey E. Johnson
• Flexible Leadership: Navigate Uncertainty and Lead with Confidence by Kevin Eikenberry
• Lessons from Leaders Volume 1: Practical Lessons for a Lifetime of Leadership by Marshall Goldsmith, Sam Shriver, and Kathy McDermott
• Heart the Lover by Lily King
• Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman

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About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.

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How much do you forget after you learn something? A lot — probably more than you'd like to admit.

Whether it's a training session, a podcast, a book, or a video like this one, most of what we learn slips away faster than we expect. In this episode, I share four things you can do to remember more and forget less: focus on the key points, make them findable, use spaced repetition, and have a learning partner.

If we know we're going to forget the things we learn, let's have a plan for remembering the most important parts.

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My name is Kevin Eikenberry and I'm here to help you reach your goal as a leader and a human being with Remarkable TV and the Remarkable Leadership Podcast.

I am also the Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group. We provide speaking, training, consulting, and coaching services to organizations who believe in investing in their most valuable assets – their people. Whether we are leading a training workshop, speaking to a group, facilitating a planning meeting, consulting with a leadership team, helping with team building, writing or developing products, our vision will be clear in everything we do – We want to be Your Leadership Help Button.

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About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere's).

About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.

To celebrate 10 years of The Remarkable Leadership Podcast, we're revisiting some of our most listened-to and most impactful conversations from the past decade.

Are you executing or are you busy? Jim Huling suggests we all struggle with execution, both personally and professionally. Jim is the global managing consultant for the 4 Disciplines of Execution® practice and co-author of the book by the same name, now in its second edition. Jim shares the 4 disciplines – Focus, Leverage, Engagement, and Accountability – and ideas you can use to implement them. Too often, teams get caught up in the whirlwind of urgent activity to keep things going. Taking the time to understand your strategic priorities and doing things with consistency and excellence will take you to the next level.

In this episode, Jim:

1. Elaborates on the 4 Disciplines of Execution.
2. Discusses Leading with authenticity vs. leading with heart.

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Unleashing Your Remarkable Potential, Kevin's free weekly e-newsletter. It's full of articles and resources to help you become a more confident and successful leader.

Additional Leadership Resources

• Book Recommendations:
  • The 4 Disciplines of Execution: Revised and Updated: Achieving Your Wildly Important Goals by Chris McChesney, Sean Covey, and Jim Huling
  • The Alchemist, 25th Anniversary: A Fable About Following Your Dream by Paulo Coelho
  • Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear
• Connect with Jim Huling:

Website | Book Website | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube

• Related Podcast Episodes:
  • Mission-Driven Leadership with Mark Bertolini.
  • Lead with Speed with Alan Willett.
  • The 7 Habits Still Matter with Sean Covey.

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I can bet you want two things: a thriving team and a thriving culture. For a lot of us, they feel like a mirage — we can see them, but we can't quite get there.

In this episode I sit down with Dr. Jamie Shapiro, author of Connected Culture: The New Science for Thriving Teams and Cultures, CEO coach, and organizational psychologist. We dig into why she calls culture an "operating system," her five C's model (with connection — care and trust — at the center), why clarity is a force multiplier and not bureaucracy, the difference between collaboration and teamwork, and how AI shows up differently in cultures built on trust versus fear.

If you want more from every podcast episode you listen to, not just this one, grab my free guide, How to Get More from Podcasts, at https://kevineikenberry.com/getmore.

Chapters: 0:00 Intro — thriving teams and cultures 1:25 Meet Dr. Jamie Shapiro 2:49 Why she wrote Connected Culture 4:53 Culture as an "operating system" 6:18 The five C's — and why connection is the heart of it 9:18 Candid communication and idea meritocracy 11:27 Clarity and the dog-park metaphor 14:51 Get clear on the what, expansive on the how 16:31 Contribution — the "lowercase y" why 20:36 Collaboration vs. teamwork (and remote work) 23:51 Culture as a competitive advantage in the age of AI 27:29 Solving the "busy badge" with AI 29:05 Connection is the hardest business goal 29:22 What Jamie's reading 30:48 Where to find Jamie and Connected Culture 31:20 Now what?

Jamie's Story: Dr. Jamie Shapiro, author of Connected Culture: The New Science for Thriving Teams and Cultures, is a CEO coach and organizational psychologist. She is the founder and CEO of Connected EC, a leadership coaching firm known for its team-based, whole-person approach to developing executives and transforming corporate culture. A Master Certified Executive Coach, professional speaker, researcher, expert facilitator, and certified nutritionist, Jamie brings a deeply integrated lens to leadership. She holds a PhD in Positive Organizational Psychology, an MBA, and a Master of Science in Information Technology, reinforcing her evidence-based, practical approach to executive performance.

https://connectedec.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/connected-executive-coaching/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-shapiro/

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About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere's).

About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.

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Do you ever wonder why training doesn't stick? It's rarely about the quality of the training itself.

In this episode, I break down the three things that have to happen for new skills to actually change how someone works — and why that almost never happens without help from their leader. I'll give you three specific questions to ask in a post-training one-on-one that close the knowing-doing gap and make training stick.

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My name is Kevin Eikenberry and I'm here to help you reach your goal as a leader and a human being with Remarkable TV and the Remarkable Leadership Podcast.

I am also the Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group. We provide speaking, training, consulting, and coaching services to organizations who believe in investing in their most valuable assets – their people. Whether we are leading a training workshop, speaking to a group, facilitating a planning meeting, consulting with a leadership team, helping with team building, writing or developing products, our vision will be clear in everything we do – We want to be Your Leadership Help Button.

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About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere's).

About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.

To celebrate 10 years of The Remarkable Leadership Podcast, we're revisiting some of our most listened-to and most impactful conversations from the past decade.

Leadership and change go hand in hand. However, we need to make sure it's a positive change. Not only is today's workforce demanding it, but organizations are also finding it profitable. Bill Novelli has spent time in the private and not-for-profit world. Today he is a professor in the McDonough School of Business at Georgetown University and founded and oversees the Georgetown Business for Impact initiative. He joins Kevin to discuss his book, Good Business – the Talk, Fight, Win Way to Change the World. Bill shares examples of organizations making changes to create both social and monetary value. Wherever you are in the organization, you can make a positive social difference. Leadership is not about titles but having the courage in your convictions and the information to influence.

Additional Leadership Resources

• Book Recommendations:
  • Good Business: The Talk, Fight, Win Way to Change the World by Bill Novelli
  • The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt
• Connect with Bill Novelli:

Website | Twitter | LinkedIn

• Related Podcast Episodes:
  • Leadership Moxie (and More) with John Baldoni.
  • Lessons for Marketing (and Change) Leaders with Thomas Barta.
  • Doing Work That Counts with Richard Lee.
  • The Mindsets and Habitsets of Leadership with Darrin Gray.

What does it take for groups of people to come together to do extraordinary things? Kevin sits down with Karina Mangu-Ward to discuss the habits that help teams thrive in complex and uncertain environments. Karina explains why exceptional teamwork requires more than a strong strategy, talented individuals, or simply working harder, and introduces three essential areas of focus: organizing for impact, deciding in uncertainty, and designing for learning. They talk about how living team charters keep people aligned as conditions change, how "even overs" clarify difficult tradeoffs between two valuable priorities, and why working in public allows teams to collaborate earlier, learn faster, and avoid wasted effort. Karina also encourages leaders to replace perfectionism with experimentation, create shared language around decision-making, and begin where there is energy rather than waiting for a company-wide mandate.

About Karina Karina Mangu-Ward is the author of the forthcoming book Teams Who Meet the Moment: 9 Practices for Unlocking Performance and Growth in Uncertain Times . She is an organizational expert who has worked with PepsiCo, Planned Parenthood, Chanel and more and is a Partner at August. At August, she's had the privilege of working with some of the largest, most complex organizations in the world to shift their everyday ways of working. Before August, her adventures included conducting research on implicit bias, helping arts organizations behave as creatively behind the scenes as they do on stage, and running social innovation labs. If you buy Karina a coffee, she'd love to tell you how all of these experiences led her to exactly where she is now. Her motto is "get caught trying," which means she'd rather try and screw it up than not try at all. She lives with her partner and kids in Brooklyn, NY. Website: https://www.aug.co/book

Book Recommendations

• Teams That Meet the Moment: 9 Practices for Unlocking Performance and Growth in Uncertain Times by Karina Mangu-Ward
• Hidden Patterns: A Playbook for More Human Workplaces by Clay Parker Jones
• Today Was Fun: A Book About Work (Seriously) by Bree Groff
• The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters by Priya Parker
• The Art of Fighting: The Transformative Power of Conflict by Priya Parker
• Between Two Kingdoms: A Memoir of a Life Interrupted by Suleika Jaouad

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• The Science of High Performance Teams with Dr. David Burkus
• Building Emotionally Intelligent Teams with Vanessa Druskat

TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Cold Open 0:30 Welcome to the Remarkable Leadership Podcast 1:24 Meet Karina Mangu-Ward 3:16 Why She Wrote Teams Who Meet the Moment 6:14 The Big Idea: 3 Lies We Love About Performance 9:47 The 3 Themes: Organizing, Deciding, Learning 12:52 Practice: Team Charters 16:14 Why 12 Weeks Is the Sweet Spot 18:43 Deciding in Uncertainty 20:48 Practice: "Even Over" 25:52 Practice: Work in Public 29:54 Where Organizations Should Start 32:04 What Karina's Reading 34:53 Where to Find Karina & the Book 35:29 Now What?

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About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere's).

About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.

Have you ever been frustrated because someone on your team didn't do what you expected — but you never actually told them what you expected?

In this episode, Kevin breaks down the "silent expectation" problem: why it guarantees future disappointment, why your assumptions aren't obvious to anyone but you, and why the fix starts with getting clear in your own head before you can get clear with your team.

Unclear expectations are one of the biggest hidden costs in any organization — showing up as rework, frustration, and turnover. Clear, spoken expectations are a foundational skill of great leadership, and it's one of the core things we work on inside our Bud to Boss workshops, built for people who've just moved from peer to leader. Learn more on our website: https://kevineikenberry.com/bud-to-boss/

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My name is Kevin Eikenberry and I'm here to help you reach your goal as a leader and a human being with Remarkable TV and the Remarkable Leadership Podcast.

I am also the Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group. We provide speaking, training, consulting, and coaching services to organizations who believe in investing in their most valuable assets – their people. Whether we are leading a training workshop, speaking to a group, facilitating a planning meeting, consulting with a leadership team, helping with team building, writing or developing products, our vision will be clear in everything we do – We want to be Your Leadership Help Button.

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About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere's).

About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.

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To celebrate 10 years of The Remarkable Leadership Podcast, we're revisiting some of our most listened-to and most impactful conversations from the past decade.

In today's episode, I'm talking with Susan Fowler, who is the author of various by-lined articles, peer-reviewed research, and six books, including the bestselling Self Leadership and the One Minute Manager with Ken Blanchard. In her new best-seller, Why Motivating People Doesn't Work…and What Does, she applies psychological discoveries that lay out a successful, research-based model and course of action to assist leaders as they guide their people towards the kinds of motivation that results in increased productivity and engagement, as well as a profound sense of purpose. If you're tired of unsuccessful attempts to drive your team towards increased motivation, you won't want to miss this powerful, insightful episode!

In this episode, you'll discover:

• What the "Motivational Dilemma" is — and why leaders are shocked (and relieved) after they realize this concept
• The different types of motivational outlooks, and why leaders should begin using the "Optimal Motivation" process for their team in order to produce successful results
• How leaders can help their team find their own personal motivational outlooks during change initiatives and/or projects

Additional Leadership Resources

• Learn more about Susan Fowler as well as her book, Why Motivating People Doesn't Work…and What Does, and additional resources.
• Check out what Susan's reading: Embers in the Ashes by Sabaa Tahir, and Hello My Name is Awesome: How to Create Brand Names that Stick by Alexandra Watkins

Leadership often feels like a series of competing demands: be confident, but humble. Be decisive, but compassionate. Kevin Eikenberry is joined by leadership coach and author Sally Netherwood to explore the paradox of modern leadership through the lens of her new book, Graceful Power. Together, they discuss the three pillars of graceful power—Congruence, Courage, and Compassion—and why becoming a more effective leader isn't about choosing one over the other, but learning to hold both with intention. If you're looking to lead with greater clarity, confidence, and impact, this conversation is full of practical insights you can apply right away.

Sally's Story: Sally Netherwood is the author of Graceful Power: Solving the Paradox of Modern Leadership, and a world-class leadership coach with over 25 years' experience helping business leaders, entrepreneurs and change-makers feel clearer, braver and more effective. Drawing on tens of thousands of coaching hours, she offers leaders tangible strategies that create immediate improvements in performance, workplace culture and daily working life. After a decade in the fast-paced world of advertising at three of the world's top agencies, she now works with leaders from organizations including Expedia and DoorDash, helping them discover and embrace their Graceful Power, so they achieve far more with significantly less personal cost.

Connect with Sally Netherwood Website: https://www.sallynetherwood.com/graceful-power LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sally-netherwood-85599419/

Book Recommendations

• Graceful Power: Solving the Paradox of Modern Leadership by Sally Netherwood
• Brilliant Doubt: Harnessing Uncertainty to Lead with Impact by Jenny Williams
• Flexible Leadership: Navigate Uncertainty and Lead with Confidence by Kevin Eikenberry

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• Understanding Power with Deborah Gruenfeld
• Creating Human-Powered Leadership with Dr. Christie Smith

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction 00:38 The paradox of modern leadership 01:31 Meet Sally Netherwood 02:49 Why Sally wrote Graceful Power 05:05 What is graceful power? 06:14 Different kinds of leadership power 08:31 The Three Cs of Graceful Power 08:49 Congruence: leading as your authentic self 11:44 Creating your leadership signature 13:30 Courage is doing what you find difficult 16:14 Understanding fear as a leadership signal 18:30 Leadership is a constant act of becoming 19:36 Compassion as a leadership strategy 21:12 Why self-compassion comes first 23:20 Believing in others' potential 26:00 Reflection as a leadership responsibility 28:12 Helping teams reflect and improve 30:40 What Sally is reading 31:54 Where to learn more 32:22 Now What?

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My name is Kevin Eikenberry and I'm here to help you reach your goal as a leader and a human being with Remarkable TV and the Remarkable Leadership Podcast.

I am also the Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group. We provide speaking, training, consulting, and coaching services to organizations who believe in investing in their most valuable assets – their people. Whether we are leading a training workshop, speaking to a group, facilitating a planning meeting, consulting with a leadership team, helping with team building, writing or developing products, our vision will be clear in everything we do – We want to be Your Leadership Help Button.

Connect with Kevin Eikenberry on Social Media: https://kevineikenberry.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevineikenberry https://instagram.com/kevineikenberry https://www.facebook.com/KevinEikenberryFanPage/

About Kevin Eikenberry: Kevin Eikenberry is the Chief Potential Officer of the Kevin Eikenberry Group, a world expert on leadership development, best-selling author, sought-after speaker, popular blogger, husband and dad, a fan of Purdue athletics and antique tractors (especially John Deere's).

About The Remarkable Leadership Podcast: The Remarkable Leadership Podcast with Kevin Eikenberry is dedicated to all things leadership. Twice a week Kevin shares his thoughts about leadership development and ideas to help you lead more confidently and make a bigger difference for those you lead. He also has weekly conversations with leadership experts discussing a wide range of topics including teamwork, organizational culture, facilitating change, personal and organizational development, human potential and more.

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