With several past episodes recorded from Seattle, we return to a previously unreleased conversation (2018) with saxophonist, improviser, and band leader, Levi Gillis. Originally from Northern California, you could now find Gillis based in Los Angeles after having continued on his developmental journey from the University of Washington Jazz and Improvisation program, chaired by Cuong Vu (episode #007, Cuong Vu 4-Tet, Pat Metheny Group), to the CalArts MFA School of Music program. We begin our discussion in 2018, but conclude during the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic in early 2020. It is a study in contrast, or lack thereof, considering escalating social justice, economic disparity, and political divisiveness. However, we are not here to reflect solely on the state of our society, but rather to celebrate Levi's avant jazz/post rock outfit Hunter Gather. Their Table and Chairs Records release, 'Getting to Know You', is a lush and up close and personal journey into delicate improvisation. Evoking minimalism, americana, baroque, and vivid cinematic indie rock, this recording has won great praise. Furthermore, we explore Gillis' collaboration with former Seattle cohorts, Mike Gebhart (drums), Carmen Rothwell (Bass), and Ray Larsen (Trumpet), as the Sky is a Suitcase. As a side note, Larsen has a well-received 2020 release on Slow & Steady Records (based in the SF Bay Area founded by Steven Lugerner and Ross Eustis), entitled 'Songs to fill the air'. The quartet's open approach marks a key moment in Seattle's avant-garde, improvisatory community. Finally, we return to 2020 as we learn the balance of being a long-distance member of the active Funk, Soul, and Classic R&B inspired large ensemble, The Dip. Levi has been a longtime contributor to this (typically) touring favorite. The Dip released a new EP of instrumental tracks in late 2020. Levi Gillis shares his experience as openly as his thoughtful and contemplative improvisation comes across in his playing. NOTE: Please excuse some of the microphone noise in the first part of the episode. Tracks featured throughout Episode #020:

• I Want To Be an American - Hunter Gather - Getting to Know You
• I Want To Be an American - Hunter Gather - Getting to Know You
• Let Me Roll My Eyes - Hunter Gather - Getting to Know You
• Getting to Know You - Hunter Gather - Getting to Know You
• Swirlworld - The Sky is A Suitcase - Rain Rhythm
• plearn - The Sky is A Suitcase - Rain Rhythm
• Citrine - The Sky is A Suitcase - Rain Rhythm
• Within - Negative Press Project - SoFar Live, Vancouver, B.C.
• Ready To Go - The Dip
• Don't Make Me Wait - The Dip
• Won't Be Coming Back - The Dip - Won't Be Coming Back EP
• Atlas - The Dip - The Dip Delivers
• Pay No Mind - Hunter Gather - Getting to Know You
• Believe You Me - Hunter Gather - Getting to Know You
• The Expatriot - Hunter Gather - Getting to Know You
• Spiderweb- The Dip - The Dip Delivers

More Information: http://levigillis.com https://huntergatherband.bandcamp.com/releases https://theskyisasuitcase1.bandcamp.com https://thedip.bandcamp.com/album/the-dip-plays-it-cool

A document of our time, as well as an exploration into a celebrated career, Venezuelan pianist and composer, Edward Simon joins us.

Now based in the San Francisco Bay Area, but long associated through his work with the all-star SF JAZZ Collective, Simon is celebrating over 30 years in music with his Ridgeway Records release, 25 Years.

His work has found him collaborating with prominent jazz, vocals, and chamber groups, such as Gretchen Parlato, Imani Winds, Mark Turner, David Binney, Scott Colley, and Brian Blade. The latter of which includes celebrated trio recordings along with John Patitucci.

We spoke with Edward about his two-disc career retrospective, as well as his newly announced role as Associate Artistic Director with the Ridgeway Arts organization (a producer of this podcast).

At the time of our conversation, the country was several months into the shelter-in-place effects of COVID-19; where musicians in particular were some of the first to lose prevalent sources of their financial living. Along with renewed light shone on familiar issues of racial injustice, the black lives matter movement, and escalated political divisiveness, it was only natural that some discussion swayed into addressing the systemic indignities more often directed towards people of color in the U.S.; implicitly, and/or overtly.

Tracks featured throughout Episode #019:

• Impossible Question - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Pathless Path - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Aguantando - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Triumphs - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Govinda - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Fiestas - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Lover's Park - Edward Simon - Steel House
• Simplicity - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Alma Llanera (Part 2)- Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Pere - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• What if… - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Gracias La Vida - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Navigator - Edward Simon - 25 Years
• Ericka - Edward Simon - 25 Years

More Information: https://www.edwardsimon.com

Another archived discussion, this time with a jet lagged (at the time of meeting in March of 2018) Romain Pilon. The french guitarist began his journey in Southeastern France at the base of the Rhone Alps; now Paris based.

A Parisian in New York for a short while, he preceded his big apple residency with matriculation through Berklee College of Music in Boston, MA.

Credited as performing with Christian Scott, Esperanza Spalding, Warren Wolf, and Lionel Loueke, Pilon also has a number of recordings under his leadership featuring key collaborations with modern saxophone colossi Seamus Blake, Ben Wendel, and Walter Smith III.

While the conversation preceded, a collaboration with Jeff Denson and Brian Blade yielded the trio recording, 'Between Two Worlds' released on Ridgeway Records in 2019. Much of which features Pilon's masterful and subtly sophisticated compositions.

We speak with Romain about his formative years, alumni friendships, performance highlights, and his series of mini-lessons as found on YouTube and Instagram.

Much of the music featured throughout the episode is culled from Romain Pilon's 2018 release, 'Copper' that was released shortly before our meeting.

Tracks featured throughout Episode #018:

• Four Moons - Romain Pilon - Copper
• Poppish - Romain Pilon - Copper
• Bibou - Romain Pilon - Copper
• Triptych (for Cėleste) - Romain Pilon Trio+Ben Wendel & Walter Smith III
• The Quiet Ones - Romain Pilon - Copper
• Azur - Jeff Denson | Romain Pilon | Brian Blade - Between Two Worlds
• Trippin - Romain Pilon - Copper
• Jumping at Shadows - Romain Pilon Trio+Ben Wendel & Walter Smith III

More Information: https://www.romainpilonguitarist.com https://www.youtube.com/user/RomainPilon/

While much has changed in society since this archived discussion from 2018 with [Lauren] Elizabeth Baba, we still manage to cull through some of the more universal aspects of creative and musical development, philosophical themes, and the deeply inspiring sources of Baba's imaginative compositions and arrangements. As you may have learned from Part 1 of our two-part discussion with Baba (Part 1 a more recent 2019 conversation), she is a violinist, violist, composer, and improviser, based in Los Angeles, California. She has asserted herself as a prolific contributor throughout many musical categories such as original improvisatory, jazz, classical, folk, pop, avant-garde, chamber, and experimental styles; a veteran performer with groups such as Similar Fashion, Ya Ya, Gregory Uhlmann Ensemble, Istambul, Thelonious Monkey, and Vardan Ovsepian Chamber Ensemble (or VOCE). As before, most significant to our conversation today, is Baba's role as the Composer and Director of theBabaOrchestra, a 17-Piece Big Band that performs her award winning original instrumental compositions. In this exchange we will be examining her work conducting the intricate and dense rhythmic voice of the large group and the collection of pieces she released as 'Another Ride on the Elephant Slide'. Here, we get to know the [Lauren] Elizabeth Baba from 2018 in conversation.

Tracks featured throughout Episode #017:

• Zaa'tar - theBABAorchestra - Another Ride on the Elephant Slide
• 144 - theBABAorchestra - Another Ride on the Elephant Slide
• The Myth of Sisyphus, Movement No. 1 - theBABAorchestra - Another Ride on the Elephant Slide
• The Myth of Sisyphus, Movement No. 2 - theBABAorchestra - Another Ride on the Elephant Slide
• Zaa'tar - theBABAorchestra - Another Ride on the Elephant Slide
• t.i.m.e. - the immediate measure (of) energy - theBABAorchestra - Another Ride on the Elephant Slide
• The Myth of Sisyphus, Movement No. 1 - theBABAorchestra - Another Ride on the Elephant Slide
• t.i.m.e. - the immediate measure (of) energy - theBABAorchestra - Another Ride on the Elephant Slide
• One Moment Here - Similar Fashion - Portrait of
• Portrait of James Turrell - Similar Fashion - Portrait of
• Myra's Fortune - Similar Fashion - Portrait of

More Information: https://www.laurenelizabethbaba.com https://thebabaorchestra.bandcamp.com https://similarfashion.bandcamp.com

At first listen, theBABAorchestra works immediately to enlighten the percipient that LA Jazz is not all studio polish, R&B, and smooth. In fact there are many examples that disavow that notion, but [Lauren] Elizabeth Baba's 17-Piece experimental big band is particularly visceral and thematic in its through-composed and improvised moments. The conductor/composer/arranger of its namesake, [Lauren] Elizabeth Baba is a violinist, violist, and improviser living in Los Angeles specializing in performing and composing creative improvised music as well as jazz, classical, folk, avant-guarde, chamber, pop, and experimental styles. Inspired by Baba's family immigration story, hailing from Syria and Greece, she introduces us to Marigold- a piece that was commissioned by Los Angeles Jazz Society through a 2018 New Note Artist Award and premiered in concert at 2018 Angel City Jazz Festival at Ford Theater, Los Angeles, CA. As her website informs, Marigold was recorded live in the studio – a 45-minute un-doctored real-time performance – presented as a long-form suite in 4 continuous movements; representing the nature of Marigold's conception as "a loop – no beginning or end – exploring through-composition + improvisation and continuing the search to conceptualize time + music + existence – understanding that the past, present, and future are simultaneous experiences." This all being a direct reaction to Baba exploring her own family's journey, and what it means to confront the bravery, heartache, ambition, and reinvention of the immigration experience. A story that carries parallels for many families in our diverse, multi-cultural nation, that offers a promise of fulfilling dreams for those arriving at its shores, but not always acknowledging the sacrifice that can weigh heavily on the elders who took on that expedition; either by choice or necessity. An immersive listening experience is recommended on its own with Marigold. In the meantime, [Lauren] Elizabeth Baba speaks with OTSSFO about her research, creative exploration, and emotional mining that led to its result. NOTE: This is Part 1 of a 2-Part conversation with [Lauren] Elizabeth Baba. The first is our more recent discussion regarding 2019's release of Marigold. While, Part 2 is comprised of an archived discussion pertaining to more of Baba's creative and musical development, upbringing, and insights into theBABAorchestra's 2017 release, Another Ride on the Elephant Slide. Stay tuned for Part 2 coming soon.

Tracks featured throughout Episode #016:

• Marigold - theBABAorchestra - Marigold

More Information: https://www.laurenelizabethbaba.com https://thebabaorchestra.bandcamp.com

March 2020

What unusual times we all find ourselves in. With what started as a world away (COVID-19), now at everyone's doorstep, the music community faces uncertainties similar to many other service-oriented vocations. While live in-person performance to audiences of size are curtailed, we can still learn about the different ways our creative sisters and brothers are expressing for the sake of social justice, humanity, and beauty.

OTSSFO kicks off its new season with an archived discussion from several years ago with German based Swiss-Italian clarinetist Claudio Puntin. Widely known as a member of the trio "Ambiq"as well as an ECM Records alumnus, Claudio is a versatile instrumentalist with eclectic collaborations that range from ambient, electronic, and avant-garde, to orchestral, jazz, and swing. He has worked with notable creators/performers such as Hermeto Pascoal, Fred Frith, Skuli Sverresson, WDR Big Band, Jeff Denson, the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra, Insa Rudolph and the Sepiasonic band.

An intensely passionate personality about improvisation and technical proficiency, Claudio gives us a glimpse into his uniquely European viewpoint and experience with collaborators.

An award-winning jeweler, he has translated this skill set into innovative designs surrounding mouthpieces for clarinet and bass clarinet- something that perhaps our reed playing constituency will find of particular interest.

We discussed all of the above, while Claudio was visiting, educating, and performing on a rare trip to the San Francisco Bay Area.

Tracks featured throughout Episode #015:

• Stoma (Main Theme) - Claudio Puntin - Stoma
• Aroma – Claudio Puntin w/Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra
• Die Herrmannsschlacht (Kiefer Exhibition 2010)
• The Mother – Ambiq - Ambiq
• Aroma – Claudio Puntin w/Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra
• Ephemera – Ambiq - Ambiq
• Paris – Sepiasonic - Sepiasonic
• Variation On a Point of View - Jeff Denson & Claudio Puntin - Two
• Þeysireið – Claudio Puntin, Geròur Gunnarsdóttir – Ylir
• Myttoprill – Ambiq - Ambiq

More Information: http://www.puntin.de http://ambiqmusic.com https://www.ecmrecords.com/catalogue/143038751622 https://arjunamusic-records.bandcamp.com/album/sepiasonic

Hello Friends!

We're back! Well, we actually never went away, but instead took a rather long pause.

We have much to share with you in respect to guests we were able to connect with since we last left off. So we have plenty to catch you up on!

Take a listen and we'll fill you in.

As you get through the episode, we also bring you some small detail about several of the more recent Ridgeway Records releases. This is something that we intend to periodically check-in on with you.

Jeff Denson | Romain Pilon | Brian Blade - Between Two Worlds

Never Weather - Blissonance

Negative Press Project - withIN

Tracks featured throughout Episode #014:

• Jetlag - Negative Press Project - withIN
• Stoma - Claudio Puntin - Stoma
• Marigold - theBABAorchestra - Marigold
• Laniakea - Romain Pilon - Copper
• Down the Hill - Negative Press Project - withIN
• Within - Negative Press Project - withIN
• Always Setting - Never Weather - Blissonance
• There is No Secret - Never Weather - Blissonance
• Listen Up - Jeff Denson | Romain Pilon | Brian Blade - Between Two Worlds
• Song of a Solitary Crow - Jeff Denson | Romain Pilon | Brian Blade - Between Two Worlds
• En Trios Temps - Jeff Denson | Romain Pilon | Brian Blade - Between Two Worlds

More Information: http://ridgewayrecords.com https://www.jeffdenson.com/between-two-worlds https://www.dillonvado.com/never-weather.html http://www.negativepressproject.com http://www.puntin.de https://thebabaorchestra.bandcamp.com https://jazzandpeople.bandcamp.com/album/romain-pilon-copper

Singer and creativity enthusiast, Moorea Dickason, is one half of the San Francisco/East Bay original art-rock super group, MoeTar, along with amazing musician and artist husband, Tarik Ragab. Striving to always serve the music, she shows up passionately and professionally in all that she participates in; to the extent of fearlessly baring her soul to appreciative audiences.

MoeTar put 2 albums out with Magna Carta Records but struck out on their own as an independent project in January 2016. Moorea and Tarik are presently producing consistent video songs every two weeks for their growing patrons on the Patreon platform. For those who love interesting new music, unexpected covers of familiar and unfamiliar songs, quirky yet poppy originals- all done with stellar musicianship and love for art and craft- will find the fertile soil of Moorea and Tarik's imagination, nourishment to the spirit of creatives and music lovers alike.

With good humor and forthrightness, the two spoke with OTSSFO about the care and feeding of a band of virtuosos, self-awareness, making a living through creative endeavors and content, and marriage in art and life.

Tracks featured throughout Episode #013:

• Dichotomy - From These Small Seeds
• Butchers of Baghdad - From These Small Seeds
• Where the Truth Lies - Entropy of the Century
• You Only Get This Life - NPR Tiny Desk Entry
• Ist Or An Ism - From These Small Seeds
• Dystopian Fiction - Entropy of the Century
• We Machines - Entropy of the Century
• Confectioner's Curse - Entropy of the Century
• The Unknowable - Entropy of the Century

More Information: https://www.patreon.com/MoeAndTar http://www.moetar.com/

As a complement to our two part conversation with New York Based, Bassist, Composer, Recording Artist, and Educator, Ben Allison, with his permission, we are providing a special peek into a portion of a discussion held at the California Jazz Conservatory in Berkeley, California.

This preceded a performance of material from his new recording with the Think Free Band entitled 'Layers of the City'; now available.

Also in the room was his touring band for the occasion, Steve Cardenas on Guitar, Allan Mednard on drums, and Kirk Knuffke on Cornet.

Tracks featured throughout Episode #012 Part 3 of 3:

• Respiration - Little Things Run the World
• Jealous Guy - Little Things Run the World

We continue with Part two of our discussion with New York Based, Bassist, Composer, Recording Artist, and Educator, Ben Allison. In Part one we discussed the process leading up to the recording of the new album, stylistic choices made, curators of taste, the Salsa scene of Newhaven Connecticut, Production techniques, the visceral experience of music and physical product, becoming an entrepreneur, cultural diplomacy through music, and finally, turning audiences on to jazz through dialog and live performance. We resume our discussion with Part two to further unbox Ben's viewpoint on the intrinsic value of music, the importance of copyrights, the benefits of an extended career in jazz, touring life, advocacy and engaging with politicians, and how that is channeled into his creative process. We also reference a conversation surrounding Ben's personal approach to composing, and how it yielded some of the tunes on his new recording, 'Layers of the City'.

Tracks featured throughout Episode #012 Part 2 of 3*:

• Ghost Ship - Layers of the City
• Layers of the City - Layers of the City
• Tricky Dick - Cowboy Justice
• Enter the Dragon - Layers of the City
• Blood Count - Duke Ellington Orchestra Feat. Johnny Hodges
• Andrew - Ben Allison and Medicine Wheel, Third Eye
• Broke - Think Free
• Broken - Action-Refraction
• Follow Your Heart - John McLaughlin, My Goal's Beyond
• Magic Number - Layers of the City
• Love Chant Remix - Riding the Nuclear Tiger
• Swiss Cheese D - The Stars Look Very Different Today
• Riding the Nuclear Tiger - Riding the Nuclear Tiger
• Roll Credits - Little Things Run the World

*All from Ben Allison recordings except where otherwise noted

New York Based, Bassist, Composer, Recording Artist, and Educator, Ben Allison has a career that spans several decades.

Ben has established himself at the forefront of modern jazz and creative music. A disciple of the jazz canon, rock, folk, 20th Century Classical music, and improvisational music from around the world, he firmly believes in the notion that the tradition of jazz is to move the music forward. He was a founding member of the Jazz Composers Collective that produced more than 100 performances in New York and abroad, new music, and annual concerts in the region for 11 seasons. One could add one time club owner (Kush), and now producer, record label owner, and artist advocate activist to his CV, with that last part highlighted by virtue of Ben's position as current President of the Board of the New York chapter of the Recording Academy. With more than 11 recordings out under his various group configurations, such as Ben Allison and Medicine Wheel, Peace Pipe, and Think Free bands, he is now releasing his second recording on his Sonic Camera label imprint, with 'Layers of the City'. A set of new compositions featuring Ben with Guitarist, Steve Cardenas, Trumpeter Jeremy Pelt, Pianist Frank Kimbrough, and Allan Mednard on Drums. We spoke with Ben about his new recording, composing process, audience engagement, leanings toward activism and advocacy, worldview, and development as a recording artist.

With such a rich and densely packed career, we couldn't possibly fit it into a brief discussion, so we have broken our conversation into several parts.

Tracks featured throughout Episode #012 Part 1 of 3:

• Get Me Offa This Thing - Layers of the City
• The Detective's Wife - Layers of the City
• Green AL - Think Free
• Neutron Star - The Stars Look Very Different Today
• Jazz Scene Voyeur - Riding the Nuclear Tiger
• Emergency - Cowboy Justice
• Blowback - Layers of the City
• Dakan - Peace Pipe
• Mantra - Ben Allison and Medicine Wheel, Third Eye