Fighter Pilot Survival: Kegan Gill's Battle Beyond the Battlefield

In this extraordinary episode, Marcus and Melanie meet with retired U.S. Navy Fighter Pilot Kegan Gill, whose story is nothing short of miraculous. Kegan survived a catastrophic ejection from his aircraft during a training mission over the Atlantic Ocean, where he ejected directly into the sound barrier. The injuries he sustained in that moment were severe enough to kill most people – his limbs torn apart and a traumatic brain injury among them. But Kegan's ordeal was only beginning.

Plunged into the icy waters of the Atlantic with his parachute still attached, his wetsuit torn, and his arms unable to move, Kegan was forced to endure a two-hour battle with hypothermia as rescue teams raced to find him. Miraculously, his hypothermic state prevented fatal blood loss. Following this harrowing experience, Kegan faced months of grueling recovery, eventually achieving a perfect Physical Fitness Test score and returning to flight duty.

However, Kegan’s journey didn’t end with physical recovery. He began experiencing severe psychotic episodes due to his brain injury, leading to a stint in a VA Mental Health Facility. Pharmaceutical treatments only worsened his symptoms, and he endured dehumanizing treatment from caregivers who misunderstood his unique needs.
Now, Kegan is finding renewed hope through alternative treatments for brain health. Through the Warrior Angels Foundation, he has discovered the power of nutraceutical and hormonal interventions, offering a glimmer of healing. Beyond his personal health battles, Kegan is a dedicated father and husband, working tirelessly to support his young family.

Join us as Kegan opens up about his incredible journey of survival, resilience, and healing. His story is as inspiring as it is shocking – a testament to human strength and the will to overcome even the darkest of circumstances.
Tune in to hear a story of grit, determination, and the relentless pursuit of healing against all odds.

 In This Episode You Will Hear:
• When I was about 10 years old, my family had a friend that had a Cessna, and he took me up on this lawnmower with wings, and we went buzzing around, and it felt like a freakin’ rocket ship. I absolutely loved being above the earth, and I felt so free. (6:36)
• In May of 2012, I graduated as a winged aviator, and I got those wings pinned on my chest. (23:40)
• [Marcus] It’s an absolute transition into a different human being the minute those wings touch your chest. (24:02)
• [In flight school] you showed up there, and you had your wings, and you thought you made it. They made it very clear you have not made anything yet. (26:40)
• It just so happened on this day there was a 16 foot, 3,500 pound Great White Shark named Mary Lee directly under my airspace, and my buddy pointed out, 
“Hey man, Today would be a terrible day to eject,” and an hour after having that conversation, I found myself out on what turned into a pretty freaking wild experience. (36:23)
• [Melanie] Q: Is it common to eject?”  [Keegan] A: It happens more than you hear about in the news. We lose a few naval fighter jets every year to mishaps. (37:16)
• When you show up at flight school, they say “Look to your left and look to your right. One of you is gonna have a serious mishap or be dead choosing this job. Are you sure you wanna be here?” (37:49)
• You think you’re invincible, and you don’t really think anything of it. (38:04)
• Keegan tells the detailed story of that fateful day. (Starting at 41:21)
• When I punched out, I got the initial blast from the ejection seat, and then immediately impacted the sound barrier with my body. At that speed, the human body is not aerodynamic. (50:58)
• The aircraft impacted the water so fast, it just vaporized. (52:50)
• They ended up wheeling me in, and treated me for severe hyperthermia. They took my core body temperature. I was at 87 degrees. [Marcus] “That should’ve killed you.” (60:13)
• One of the more senior guys takes me into his office and he goes: “Congratulations, Lieutenant Gill. If you can figure out how to get your body working again, we’ll get you back in a Super Hornet. (68:14)
• My brain was just not working the way it was supposed to from TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury). (75:04)
• I had a deep sense of betrayal from all that thought I had served. To see the treatment, it seemed like everything I was fighting for was a joke. (89:53)
• I’ve had a number of psychedelic-assisted therapies that have been really helpful. (95:54)
• Ibogaine has been studied pretty thoroughly at this point. It’s showing that it triggers neuro-regeneration. (102:21)

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This episode includes sensitive content and may be difficult for some listeners. Listener discretion is advised.
On July 4th, a devastating flood swept through Kerrville, Texas, forever altering countless lives. Among those impacted was John Dustin Ledford, whose world was turned upside down as he began a desperate search for his sister, brother-in-law, and young nephew in the chaotic aftermath of the storm.
In this heartbreaking and deeply human episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie meet with Dustin, who courageously shares the raw details of those terrifying hours and days — the uncertainty, the fear, and the relentless determination to find his family amid overwhelming destruction. His story offers a firsthand look at what it’s like when celebration turns to catastrophe in an instant, and how faith, grit, and community become lifelines when hope feels fragile.
This conversation is not just about loss and tragedy — it’s about love, perseverance, and the unbreakable bonds of family. Dustin’s account reminds us of the real people behind the headlines and the lasting emotional impact disasters leave behind long after the waters recede.
In this episode, we discuss:
•            The events leading up to the July 4th Kerrville flood
•            The moment Dustin realized his family was missing
•            The emotional toll of searching amid chaos and uncertainty
•            The role of community, first responders, and strangers during tragedy
•            How grief, hope, and resilience collide in moments of crisis
This is a powerful, sobering episode that honors those affected by the Kerrville flood and gives voice to the families who continue to carry its weight.

In this episode you will hear:
• Went to the police academy fulltime while working full time at the fire department. Got into arson investigating. (20:18)
•  [His sister, Brother-In-Law, and nephew] were in a camper on their truck in Ingram right next to the river. (43:24)
• Starting at 45:12 John begins to share the heart-wrenching details of his search for his sister, brother-in-law, and nephew. The story continues through the end of the episode describing the conditions, the myriad of people and departments participating in the search for friends, family, and loved ones.
• I don’t even know if they knew it was raining because it was hot and they had the generator going. It’s loud. (45:12)
• When I got there, it was very chaotic. A lot of parents down the parking lot. (53:13)
• It was about midnight on July 4th when I called to report them missing. (60:20)
• One of the ladies [at the church] said “we’re out of air mattresses, but I’ve got a spot for you. She takes me upstairs and gives me a prayer room with a couch (63:31)
• Sitting at these tables with these dads – I can’t even begin to fathom. (67:30)
• Starting at 45:12 John begins to share the heart-wrenching details of his search for his sister, brother-in-law, and nephew. The story continues through the end of the episode describing the conditions, the myriad of people and departments participating in the search for friends, family, and loved ones.

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Rising Above: From Runaway Kid to Green Beret, Cop, and Creator
This week’s Team Never Quit episode brings you a raw, unfiltered, and deeply inspiring conversation with Sean Rogers - a man who has lived several lifetimes’ worth of adversity, discipline, transformation, and impact.
From a desert town to the global stage, Rogers’ story is one of resilience forged under pressure. Born in California and raised in Phelan, his early years were marked by chaos and instability. After running away from home as a teenager, he refused to let hardship dictate his future. He finished high school on his own terms and made the bold choice to enlist in the military, setting into motion a journey that would change everything.
While on active duty, Sean began his formal education and pushed himself academically with the same intensity he brought to training. He earned a master’s degree in organizational leadership—all while pursuing the grueling path to become a U.S. Army Special Forces Green Beret. Two deployments later, he transitioned to a new mission: serving his community as a police officer. What he witnessed on the streets during the riots following the death of George Floyd would reshape his understanding of leadership, culture, communication, and human behavior.
But Sean’s story didn’t stop there.
Driven to help the next generation of warriors, he founded The FNG Academy, an online platform designed to prepare aspiring Special Forces candidates for the mental, physical, and emotional challenges of selection. What started as a simple resource has grown into a thriving YouTube community, a robust online store, and a dedicated team committed to equipping others to step into their potential with confidence.
He later chronicled his incredible life journey in his autobiography, Rising Above, a book that captures the honesty, grit, and self-discovery that have shaped his path.
Sean Rogers embodies what it means to overcome circumstances, own your story, and turn pain into purpose. Whether you’re chasing personal growth, preparing for a demanding path, or simply looking for motivation to push through your own challenges, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

In this episode you will hear:
• Recently, I finally figured out that God is what I needed to be chasing. (5:27)
• I got a Master’s Degree. I ran marathons. I ran ultra marathons. Trying to fill that void. I got Special Forces; I went police officer. Everything I thought would help – none of it helped. (6:49)
• They develop this fear in you that if you get found out by CPS, you’re gonna get separated from your siblings. So, you start learning how to hide what’s going on at home. (11:06)
• I used to run away constantly – to all my family member’s houses, and the cops would go get me and bring me back. (18:03)
• [I wanted to die] I had one of two directions to go: either get worse, and then she’s gonna look back one day and say she made the right decision, or I can get better and I can look back one day and say that was the best thing that ever happened to me. (38:59)
• I had to make a decision. I don’t want this to define me that someone got to choose my fate. (39:53)
• If I can’t get my act together enough to follow through on a plan, maybe the Army will be the place where they will let me be kinda wild and refine me a little bit. (44:56)
• At 67:12 to 70:30, Sean speaks about an awful mistake he made in a gunfight.
• Writing books. Of all the things I’ve done, I’ve hated that the worst. (78:00)
• I trust people that talk about God now. A lot of SF guys idolize. We say “Look at me.” (78:06)
• What stoked my fire with God was the show “Chosen.” (80:29)
• I’m claiming to be Christian, and I don’t even know how cool Jesus is. (80:57)
• At some point you have to say. “I’m buckling down, this is where God wants me. I’m here – thick or thin, and we’re gonna get through this.” (104:52)
• [Marcus] from 0-40 it’s an opinion; 40-60 it’s perspective; and 60+ is wisdom.
• Self-help books are broken people talking to broken people to give you some temporary encouragement. Treat them as what they are. (109:16)

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From Battlefield to Boardroom:
A Global Legacy of Courage, Compassion & Leadership
This week, the Team Never Quit Podcast welcomes a truly extraordinary guest: Dr. Sudip Bose — emergency physician, Iraq War veteran, entrepreneur, medical innovator, and one of the world’s most dynamic voices at the intersection of medicine, military leadership, and business.
Few leaders embody resilience and global perspective the way Dr. Bose does. His story spans continents, combat zones, emergency rooms, and corporate boardrooms—all shaped by deep heritage and a lifelong commitment to service.

A Legacy Rooted in Courage and Heritage
Born in the United States to parents who emigrated from Kolkata, Dr. Bose carries a powerful cultural heritage. Fluent in Bengali and proud of his lineage, he is a descendant of:
·         Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose, legendary freedom fighter
·         Jagadish Chandra Bose, pioneering scientist
·         Satyendra Nath Bose, the physicist behind the concept of bosons
Their spirit of bravery, intellectual curiosity, and innovation lives on in Dr. Bose’s own journey.

Leadership Forged in War
Dr. Bose’s leadership was tested early—on the front lines of Iraq as a U.S. Army physician under the most intense combat conditions. He earned the Bronze Star Medal for his service and was entrusted with treating Saddam Hussein after his capture.

More than the accolades, the battlefield taught him the principles that guide his life:
·         Stay calm when others panic
·         Find clarity in chaos
·         Turn adversity into opportunity
·         Let heritage and values anchor global impact
These lessons follow him into every trauma bay, boardroom, and keynote stage he steps into today.

From the ER to the Global Stage
After returning from combat, Dr. Bose transitioned into civilian life—continuing his work as an emergency physician while expanding his influence across medicine, media, innovation, and policy. His roles include:
·         Executive Producer of Desert Doc, the Telly Award–winning Amazon Prime docuseries revealing the realities of emergency medicine
·         Founder of The Battle Continues, a nonprofit supporting injured combat veterans
·         EMS Medical Director for the largest geographic hospital coverage area in the U.S.—19 counties and 38,000 square miles
·         Advisory Board Member for DrB.ai, a global digital health platform increasing access to affordable care
·         Trusted Advisor to the U.S. Congress on healthcare policy
·         Keynote Speaker for Fortune 500 companies and major financial institutions

Across everything he does, Dr. Bose bridges healthcare, military discipline, and business strategy—helping leaders thrive in high-stakes environments.

This is a masterclass in courage, clarity, service, and global leadership—told by a man who has lived it on every front line imaginable.

In this episode you will hear:
• [My sister] She’s a CEO but sometimes she’s the CEO of my chaos. (7:46)
• I basically started med school at 21; I got my MD at 25. (8:59)
• I remember sitting with my dad and asking him: “What can I do where I don’t have to study?” (10:58)
• Things that are just tragic and sad; they shape you later. You don’t realize it at the time. (11:47)
• I think if they had an award in high school for least likely to go in the military, I might have gotten that award. Guess what? In Junior high – 6th grade – I weighed 49 pounds. I was tiny. I didn’t hit 5’ tall until my sophomore year of high school. (12:33)
• I’m in the books as the Illinois state champion in wrestling, because nobody could match my weight division. (13:11)
• You don’t realize how your world can change in a moment, and what seems like irrelevant work or homework or assignments later in life might save your life. (16:32)
• In Iraq, I find myself cooped up in this ambulance. An armored 5-7-7 track medical vehicle with metal wheels, jostling to the next section of Bagdad or Fallujah and then the vehicle comes to a screeching halt, the back door opens and you hop out like a frog jumping out of a blender. And you find yourself on the front lines of the battlefield. (21:33)
• There are the mental challenges of losing people you know. (22:52)
• You love [life] saves where you can have them unite with their family. (27:11)
• Within hours of getting there, there were two soldiers that came in and I had to pronounce dead. You just realize, wow, you are in it now. (31:19)
• You cant take care of everyone, but by training my medics, I multiplied myself. (34:02)
• [Marcus] You scored the number 1 in the nation on your medical exam board;
You scored at the top of the Army physical fitness test;
A Bronze Star;
Recognized by CNN as a CNN hero;
You’re one of the leading physicians in the world;
[You served] The longest combat tour since WWII;
You treated Saddam Hussein. (52:26)
• I evaluated [Saddam Hussein] shortly after his capture. (56:10)
• You have to put your feelings, emotions, everything side, so you can focus. (57:45)
• Somebody told me I might be the only person who has ben face to face with Saddam Hussein and shaken hands with George W. Bush. (58:38)
• The people who gave their lives, their vision, their limb, made the ultimate sacrifice for our nation. Those people wrote the blank check, up to and including the cost of my life. That’s what keeps me motivated. (59:48)
• The journey keeps going forward and the battle continues… (75:55)

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The Trident: Leadership Lessons from the Battlefield to the Boardroom
This week, Marcus, Melanie welcome an extraordinary warrior, leader, and encourager—Jason Redman, retired Navy SEAL, bestselling author, and one of the most respected voices on resilience and overcoming adversity.
Jason served 21 years in the U.S. Navy, including 11 years as an enlisted SEAL and 10 years as a SEAL officer, leading combat operations across the globe. His career is a study in grit, redemption, and relentless dedication—from early deployments in Central and South America to commanding SEAL teams in Iraq and Afghanistan.
But Jason’s life shifted forever on September 13, 2007, when he was acting as Assault Force Commander during a mission in Iraq. An enemy ambush erupted. Jason was shot eight times, including a devastating gunshot wound to the face. His team fought through, secured the target, and saved his life.
What followed was a recovery few could imagine: 40 surgeries, months in the hospital, and a battle not just for survival, but for identity, leadership, and purpose. Jason didn’t just recover—he returned to active duty and continued serving until retirement in 2013. His courage, valor, and leadership earned him the Purple Heart, Bronze Star with Valor, and the respect of warriors around the world.

Why This Episode Matters
Jason Redman has become one of the most powerful voices in America on resilience. His life is proof that the human spirit can rise, rebuild, and lead again—no matter the setback. Whether you’re fighting through a personal battle, searching for purpose, or simply need a reminder of what true grit looks like, Jason’s story will challenge, encourage, and strengthen you.

In this episode you will hear:
• The very first book I bought about the SEAL teams - I was in a truck stop and there was a case of books you could buy for a buck. There was a book about SEAL operations in Vietnam. Four years later, I checked into SEAL Team 4. (6:22)
• I was about 95lbs and 5’ tall at 15, and that recruiter took one look at me, and was like: “You are not what the SEALS are looking for.” (7:40)
• There are way more operational opportunities for enlisted SEALS than there are for officers. (20:44)
• Seaman to Admiral takes individuals who don’t have a degree. They send them to school. It’s an accelerated program. You’re part of the ROTC program. You commission out of that and you come back as a SEAL officer. (24:02)
• We were all bleeding so bad, and it created this mist in the helicopter of blood. The entire inside of the helicopter was coated in blood. (43:06)
• My recovery time took 4 years and 40 surgeries to put me back together. (43:38)
• Be thankful for the hardships you have in life and for hard things that happen because I think they set you up for success in other things. (43:48)
• Me failing as a leader was probably the hardest thing I’ve ever had to come back from. (43:56)
• Lead yourself, Lead others, Lead always. (44:39)
• [Marcus] When he was in the hospital, he wrote on a bright orange piece of paper and tacked it on the door. And he wrote this letter saying “Don’t come in here feeling sorry for me. I will overcome.” (48:48)
• It’s amazing when you’re around Christians who have a appreciation for the world and a love of Christ and a love of humanity. (51:07)
• These are questions I like to ask veterans: “What do you want to accomplish? What is your American dream? (53:52)
• Whether you’re starting your own business, or you’re a leader in a business, we need you. This country needs you. (64:47)

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From a U. S. Army Combat Veteran Mindset to Tractor Supply Leadership: Building Teams, Safety, and Continuous Improvement

This week, Marcus and Melanie welcome Rodney Bailey, a devoted husband, father, and decorated U.S. Army combat veteran whose leadership has been shaped by four combat tours and distinguished honors, including the Purple Heart and Meritorious Service Medal.
He now applies that mission-driven discipline at Tractor Supply Company, where he leads operations and continuous improvement initiatives that strengthen safety, streamline performance, and unlock millions in new production capacity.
A Lean Six Sigma Black Belt and Human Performance Advocate, Rodney is committed to developing leaders and building teams who pursue excellence with pride and purpose. A lifelong learner who embraces challenge, he is currently earning his Doctorate in Business with a focus on Strategy and Innovation. Through it all, he remains anchored in faith, family, and service—values that also inspired his children’s book, God Is Bigger Than a Bear.

A National Impact Rooted in Community
Marcus and Melanie also welcome Lindsay Grayson, who serves as the Chief Revenue Officer at K9s For Warriors, overseeing the Development and Marketing teams as she drives brand visibility, deepens donor engagement, and accelerates revenue growth for the nation’s largest provider of trained service dogs for military veterans.
Since joining the organization, Lindsay has reshaped its fundraising trajectory—boosting revenue by 70% in her first year and leading K9s For Warriors to a historic, record-setting year of giving in 2023. Her performance and impact earned her recognition as a Jacksonville Business Journal Women of Influence honoree.
Prior to her nonprofit leadership career, Lindsay worked as a financial advisor with Merrill Lynch, guiding clients through strategic planning and long-term financial goals. A Jacksonville native and proud spouse of an Air Force veteran and First Responder, she finds joy in family time, travel, live music, and cheering on her children, Lucas and Ebby.

In This Episode You Will Hear:
• At redeployment, something happened to me. During Ramadi, they started really looking at traumatic brain injuries. They started putting sensors in the helmets. (30:34)
• If you didn’t lose a liter of blood or you’re not missing a body part, it’s Ibuprofen & water. (30:54)
• When I got back and they hooked up my helmet, and they’re like: “something’s up.” (31:02)
• At 31:10, Rodney tells of one of his traumatic brain injury events as a 50 cal gunner. [He hit the gun at 20mph. It was the only thing that kept him from being thrown from the vehicle.
• I did about 5 months in another deployment and was Medivacked out to Germany with another head injury. (32:29)
• It wasn’t like I had to learn to walk again. I had to learn how to walk straight. (33:35)
• You know that you have to wait for that 30, 45 to 90 second, depending on what kind of round it is. And then you hear the sound – “Here it is.” You gotta run, just hoping that it doesn’t hit you. (36:05)
• There’s beauty in some fights. (38:33)
• Sometimes there’s like a calm and pause in war. (42:35)
• If you’re gonna transition from the military, I think there’s some things that are grounded in you – core beliefs, values, and everything like that. (49:26)
• At Tractor Supply, one of the things that brought me to it is the core missions and values. (49:46)
• 10% of all people who work for Tractor Supply are veterans. (50:46)
• This was the first company that actually told me, “Hey, go home and spend time with your family.” (51:13)
• [Lindsay] Tractor [Supply} has helped put mor leashes in the hands of veterans, and they really believe in our mission. (54:51)
• Lindsay shares how veterans go about applying for a canine from CaninesforWarriors.org. (55:31)
• [Marcus] We’re conditioned to come in – we’re not conditioned to get out. (57:31)
• The only thing that’s gonna stop you, is you. (70:32)
• Sometimes you’re dealt with cards, but you’re writing the book of your life. (72:21)

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From the Skies Over Vietnam to the Power of Healing — The Story of Mike Penn
 This week’s Team Never Quit guest, Mike Penn, embodies courage, resilience, and grace under pressure. A Navy fighter pilot who served in Vietnam over 50 years ago, Penn’s life took a dramatic turn on August 6, 1972, during his 85th combat mission off the USS Midway. Shot down and captured by enemy forces, he endured eight harrowing months as a POW in Hanoi, facing starvation, torture, and isolation. Losing 60 pounds and battling injuries from the crash, he survived where many did not.
Upon returning home, Penn continued to serve his country before transitioning to a long and successful career as an airline pilot. Yet, his greatest battles weren’t fought in the skies—they were fought within. Like countless Veterans, Penn wrestled with PTSD and alcoholism, learning that even the strongest warriors can’t always go it alone.
Penn credits his recovery and renewed purpose to sheer determination, the support of fellow Veterans, and the care he received through the Houston VA, which later discovered a life-threatening cancer during a routine scan—saving his life once again.
Today, Penn continues to inspire others through motivational speaking, encouraging Veterans to seek help, share their stories, and lean on one another. His outlook remains deeply positive: despite his suffering, he still calls it “an honor to serve.”
Join us as we hear Mike Penn’s incredible journey—from fighter pilot to prisoner of war to survivor and mentor. His story is a testament to resilience, faith, and the healing power of community.
Thank you, Mike Penn, for your honorable service—and for reminding us that healing begins when we choose to reach out.

In this episode you will hear:
• [Marcus] If you’re struggling in college, get your butt in the military for4-6 years, come back, and you’ll scream right through it. (6:54)
• To get on the Blue Angels demo pilot team, they vote on you. It’s a good ol’ boy system. If any one guy says no, you’re done. (9:30)
• Out of nowhere this Marine Corps Master Gunnery Sergeant shows up right in my face. And he starts yelling at me, and honestly, I thought I was in the wrong place. When he gets through yelling at me, he says “You got anything to say for yourself you smart ass college boy?” I put my hand on his shoulder, looked him in the eyes, and I called him “sarge,” I said “Sarge, I really think I’m in the wrong place, because I cam down here to be a Navy jet pilot.” Boom! He threw me on the ground. I’ve never done so many push ups in my life. (12:21)
• He got me in such good officer shape; I ended up becoming the Regimental Commander.  (13:19)
• Landing at night is so difficult, because in the daytime you have depth perception. You’re looking at the “Meatball,” the optical landing system. Line up with the ship, and your air speed. At night you can’t see anything. (19:00)
• [When missiles are fired at you] you see it lift off, you see it coming at you. You build up speed. When it gets to be about ¾ of a mile away from you, you do a high G roll into it. It tries to track on you, but it’s going so fast, it can’t. (29:00)
• They were firing 3 from behind that we never saw, so when I tried to get more speed, one from behind hit me. Boom. Engine quit. Stated shaking like crazy. Immediately 8I turned toward the beach. (29:26)
• When I got hit, I knew it was over. (30:14)
• I reached up to fire the ejection seat. I pulled it, and nothing happened. Never quit. (31:10)
• Once I hit the ground, I was in about a foot of water, and the bullets were hitting the water all around me. (34:02)
• [Melanie: Q: What happens to the plane?”] A: It blew up right after I ejected. (34:49)
• At 36:22, Mike tells the story of his treatment when he was taken by the enemy.
• When we got there, we were just beat up and tied up. We had about 3 weeks of that. (41:25)
• We had 24” concrete slabs on either side. That’s what we slept on. (42:57)
• We got no rice. The Vietnamese ate it all. (43:35)
• My grandfather, who was an Army vet in Japan, when I went to war, he told me 2 things: Take care of your men, and don’t ever give up.(44:36)
• [Melanie: Q: How long were you in there as a POW”] A: 8 months. (47:27)
• When I got to Oakland, I made beer milkshakes. (55:03)
• When I was at Clark, first thing I did – I sat in the shower for 2 hours. (55:28)
• Guess where I git [a new car]? I won it on Hollywood Squares. (71:19)
• If I can save 1 life from [writing] that book, it’s worth it. (80:53)

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From the Battlefield to Breakthrough: The Kalob Creighton Story
This week on the Team Never Quit Podcast, we sit down with Special Forces Green Beret Kalob Creighton, whose story embodies the essence of courage, faith, and the power of healing.
Kalob’s journey began on the battlefield—serving his nation with honor and sacrifice. But his most life-changing battle didn’t happen overseas; it happened at home. During a late-night burglary attempt, Kalob was shot while shielding his toddler from danger. The bullet remains lodged near his spine—a constant reminder of that night and the uncertainty that followed.
Yet Kalob’s story doesn’t end with pain; it continues with purpose. Through his partnership with RejuvStem, Kalob has discovered the transformative potential of regenerative medicine. His recovery is more than physical—it’s a story of restored hope, renewed strength, and a return to life fully lived.
Join Marcus and Melanie as they explore how Kalob’s warrior mindset, combined with groundbreaking medical innovation, has redefined what it means to overcome. This episode is a powerful testament to resilience, family, and the mission to heal, restore, and give back the chance at life that so many fight for.
Listen now to hear Kalob’s incredible journey of survival, innovation, and strength—reminding us all why we never quit.

 In this episode you will hear:
• You know how you go through stuff in training where it just sucks so bad it stops sucking? The “give a fuck” goes away. (15:20)
• The Delta course is crazy. You see guys cut open. Until I hit A&P and we started putting fingers in asses. (27:17)
• You have to learn the hard way sometimes. (37:34)
• [My father] He may not do it the right way himself, but he wanted us to do it the right way, and he taught us some morals and values. (37:50)
• [My dad] was a great human. [He’d] shake your hand. That’s what meant more than a contract. (38:00)
• When you’re switching from something that’s high octane like this driven purpose in a team environment. You walk out and you’re like “where’s my team at? (42:52)
• I’m all in. 100 miles an hour. Full throttle. Let’s go. (43:12)
• I got shot by a guy named “Keypad.” (61:26)
• That was the best thing that happened to me. I needed the wake-up call. It was God saying “listen up, dude.” (63:44)
• Like life #7. Pay attention, bro. (63:54)
• I got the feeling back in my right leg. In my left leg it never returned. (64:23)
• I’m sitting the just asking God, “When do guys like me quit? When do we throw in the towel? (70:11)
• I really brought in the realization of what’s important. If this does not have a purpose – change it. (80:03)

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More Than the Uniform: Greg Froelick’s Pursuit of Purpose
This week on the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie sit down with former Navy SEAL and private aviation businessman*, Greg Froelick—a man who has dedicated his life to excellence, discipline, and service both on and off the battlefield.
Greg’s journey began after college, when he chose to serve his country and earned his place among the elite ranks of the U.S. Navy SEAL Teams. His time in special operations sharpened his perspective on resilience, teamwork, and intentional living—lessons he now carries into every corner of his life.
After leaving the military, Greg transitioned into the medical sales industry, where he quickly proved himself in a competitive arena. His combination of grit, professionalism, and mission-focused thinking eventually opened the door to his next chapter with EMCJET, a premier group in the private aviation space. Today, he plays a key role on the EMCJET team, helping deliver world-class service with a warrior’s level of precision and accountability.
Greg recounts his experience aiding in the recovery efforts following the July 4th Camp Mystic flood disaster. He and Marcus reflect on their immediate decision to head to the affected area, coordinating the logistics required to make a meaningful impact—joining forces with several fellow Navy SEALs to provide help where it was needed most.

Greg’s story is a reminder that your mission doesn’t end when one chapter closes. Whether in uniform or in business, he continues to serve — helping others live with intention.

In this episode you will hear:
• We shouldn’t be on no defense - Department of Defense. This is the Department of War. We don’t go on defense. You step up, and we’ll come in and crush the shit out of you. (19:02)
• Got into private aviation. It’s like a real estate agent for private jets. (22:46)
• [The gate at Camp Mystic] was twisted. You can’t talk about it and do it justice – the way it was twisted steel. (34:46)
• We’re not by any means a search and rescue outfit, but we knew that we could help. (36:31)
• We’re this close to being signed up to be a care coalition. It’s a safe place to land. (36:51)
• You’re at that point where “I hope I don’t find anything” [and at the same time] “I hope I find it.” (41:01)
• When the cadaver dogs showed up and the backhoe maintainers showed up – Game Changers. (41:16)
• The one’s that’ll never get any attention or no one will ever know who they are the drivers of the maintainers. (41:51)
• How many times did we walk on somebody before we even found ‘em, because they were buried under the dirt from the Cypress trees. (43:30)
• This is why it was key to have the cadaver dogs because of everything else that was dead around it: horses, pigs, deer, dogs. (44:02)
• Everything aside from the situation – A lot of good came from all that. (46:55)
• The more people sometimes – the harder it becomes. Everybody just wants to help. We were fortunate to get in the way we got in. (48:27)
• No one was there yet. It was just us. (48:40)

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From Marine… to Green Beret… to Peacemaker
This week, Marcus and Melanie sit down with an unconventional warrior with an unconventional calling—Christian Hickey, Founder and CEO of the Triple A Authority Foundation, husband, father of three, Marine, Police Officer, Green Beret, and now… missionary on the front lines of Ukraine.
Christian’s journey reads like a novel you’d assume was fiction—yet every chapter is true.
For over 15 years of military service and 15 years in law enforcement, Christian has lived a life of duty—to God, to his country, and to his community. His time as a United States Marine and later as a U.S. Army Green Beret gave him the tactical expertise to operate in the world’s harshest conflict zones. But it was behind the badge, on the streets of American neighborhoods, that he honed a different weapon—the power of communication. 
“As a police officer, I learned to listen and speak to people in a meaningful manner. Those communication skills allowed me to solve problems, restore peace, and bring change.” 
Christian earned his Associate Degree in Criminal Justice and is currently completing a Bachelor’s in Evangelism at Liberty University. Yet nothing could have prepared him for the mission God would call him to next. 
At age 41, he found himself on the frontline in a small Ukrainian village, serving not as a soldier, but as a missionary—bringing aid, hope, and the Gospel into a war zone. 
“If you had asked me six months prior, I would’ve never guessed I’d be in Ukraine serving as an unconventional missionary. But God knew what to do with a born-again Christian, Marine, Police Officer, and Green Beret.” 
Through his foundation, Triple A Authority, Christian combines faith, humanitarian work, and tactical mission skills to reach the unreachable and serve those in the shadow of war. His story is a reminder that purpose isn’t always found in comfort—sometimes it’s found in chaos, obedience, and calling. 
This episode is a powerful reminder that service can take many forms—and that sometimes the most dangerous places reveal the deepest purpose. Christian Hickey is a man living out his faith with courage, humility, and conviction—and his story will challenge, inspire, and move you. 

In this episode you will hear:
• What really pushed me into the military was that I wanted to become a deputy Sheriff. (13:01)
• I accepted Christ when I was a young man, but I’ve always been intentional with my faith.  (30:38)
• God was real to me. He said “I’m calling you into ministry now.” I still don’t know what that meant at the time. (31:35)
• I believe that the season that you’re in now; God is preparing you for the next season. (32:41)
• I was following Psalms: 105, the lit path for me to continue to go. (35:17)
• When you’ve got all of the DOD behind you, you don’t carry much fear with you. (41:21)
• When Jesus is in charge of your life - This is not my rodeo. (44:05)
• I’ve never been shot at by a tank Before. (46:24)
• The Ukranian men and women are some of the best soldiers I’ve ever met. They’re so resilient. (50:12)
• I’m the chaplain for SOCOM athletes. (61:56)
• I pray that through this war, that Christ is revealed, and His authority is king, and His love is felt, and many come to know Christ through it. (70:41)
• We have a God. He has a son, His son’s name is Jesus Christ and He died for us. If you believe that in your heart, you believe He was raised three days later, you will be saved. Do you want that in your life? Do you believe that in your heart? All I heard was “Da da” which means “Yes, I want Jesus.” (71:28)

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From SEAL to Studio: The Art of Grit with Justin Hughes
In this week’s episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus, Melanie, and Hunter sit down with Justin Hughes — former Navy SEAL turned professional oil painter — whose journey from the battlefield to the art studio embodies the essence of transformation, discipline, and creative courage.
Based out of Charleston, South Carolina, Justin has redefined what it means to serve and to create. As a self-taught representational artist, he channels the lessons, emotions, and intensity of his time in the SEAL Teams into his paintings, merging the warrior spirit with the sensitivity of the fine arts. His mission is to bridge two seemingly distant worlds — the world of combat and the world of creativity — revealing that both demand vision, perseverance, and heart.
Listeners will hear how Justin’s childhood in Southeast Asia, and a fateful encounter with Lone Survivor sparked a dream that would change his life forever. His story takes us through the rigors of SEAL training, moments of doubt and triumph, and the eventual transition from military service to artistry — a path shaped by struggle, purpose, and redemption.
Through his brushstrokes, Justin explores what it means to be a modern warrior — one who fights not only on the battlefield but also in the soul. Drawing comparisons to the renaissance genius Leonardo da Vinci, Hughes uses his art to express the beauty within discipline and the strength found in vulnerability.

 In this episode you will hear:
• My dad was a Huey pilot. (8:44)
• I grew up all over Southeast Asia (9:20)
• I was thinking: Whatever is gonna be the hardest thing to do in the military; wherever that realm is, those are the people that want to be in those jobs the most. That’s gotta be where my people are at. (14:41)
•  One of the biggest misconceptions of BUDs is you can’t just show up and not quit. You still have to be a good team guy. You still have to do the work. You gotta be a performer. You gotta be a pro. We’re looking for the whole man. (21:05)
• For those of you who don’t know what pool competency is. It’s the hardest single test in BUDs. (37:55)
• When I first started painting, I didn’t know any artists. I didn’t know anything about art. (62:48)
• [Melanie] Q: What’s your goal with art? A: Just to be better every day. And continue to provide paintings that are meaningful to people. To glorify the Lord through whatever work I’m doing. (74:30)
• I’m still saying “Hooyah! like turrets. (75:25)
• It takes a lot of bad work. You’ve gotta be patient with the process. Sometimes a really good thing will look really bad for a long time for a long time before you can polish it up and make it into something beautiful. So… don’t quit. (86:43)

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