Eric tells Ben the deep seated reason he developed significant contempt for the law. It led him to challenge cops in hair-raising ways. Now, 40 years later, Eric tells his surprisingly emotional secret and where it led him.

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Hollie from "Mom Ruined my Credit" and her husband Biscuit are back to tell the tangled tale of their love story. They were destined for each other, but biscuit was involved in a tricky relationship situation which for many would be a dealbreaker. And don't worry, we explain the nickname Biscuit as well. Host: Susie Lark.

The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial!

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FACEBOOK DISCUSSION GROUP

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Here's an excerpt from a new Pushkin audiobook I think you'll enjoy, The Pain of

Others by Miguel Ángel Hernández. In a quiet town in the Spanish countryside, Miguel Ángel

Hernández's best friend murdered his sister and took his own life by jumping off a cliff. No one

ever knew why. The investigation was closed, and the crime forgotten. Twenty years later, when

time has dulled the shock but not the questions, Miguel returns home, putting himself in the

shoes of a detective, in an attempt to reconstruct the tragic night that marked the end of his

adolescence. But the investigation will awaken ghosts that he thought he had left behind: a

childhood marked by the Church, by sin and guilt; the constant presence of illness and death;

the oppressive, closed world from which he managed to escape. Based on true events, The

Pain of Others is a chilling audiobook that blends police thriller, investigative reporting, and

literary suspense—an unflinching reckoning with violence, memory, and the question that still

haunts the author: Did he fail to see the warning signs that his best friend was capable of this

horrific crime? Find The Pain of Others at Pushkin.fm or wherever you get audiobooks.

Ben

Tiffany confessed her online affair with another woman to her husband. His reaction might surprise you, but not as much as his reaction when they realize she was catfished. How the triad navigates this tricky situation is Tiffany's secret.

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HOME SERVE

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PICTURES

See Tiffany, her husband and the avatar Alex made for her.

They are waiting for you on Threads, Facebook, Instagram and X. Handle: @secretroompod.

YOUTUBE

You can listen to The Secret Room now on YouTube!

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Margot joins Susie to reveal a secret battle she fought against herself and her relationship with food. It became a balance of obsession over eating too much or not enough. One day, she lost control and begged for help. It was the last chance to save herself. Host: Susie Lark.

The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial!

FACEBOOK DISCUSSION GROUP

There's even more fun at The Secret Room Podcast Facebook Discussion Page! Just ask to join, all are welcome. :)

YOUR SECRET

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PODCAST TEAM

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Hollie was devastated when she discovered that the person who meant the most to her had silently ruined her credit. But her secret is two fold. The second secret is how she responded, and she's not sure the audience will agree with her choice.

DRIP DROP

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HERS

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HOME CHEF

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PICTURES

See Hollie and her mom. Also Hollie's wedding gown that her mom made; and the little house she grew up in.

They are waiting for you on Threads, Facebook, Instagram and X. Handle: @secretroompod.

YOUTUBE

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Hollie is back in one week on the The Secret Room | Unlocked. She talks more in depth about the ups and downs with her mom over the years and how they almost stopped talking over political differences. Hollie also shares more about when Hurricane Katrina hit her home town. We'll find out the shocking way she got together with her husband. Host: Susie Lark.

The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial!

ALL OUR SPONSORS

See all our sponsors past and present, and their offers, many of which are still valid: secretroompodcast.com/codes

FACEBOOK DISCUSSION GROUP

There's even more fun at The Secret Room Podcast Facebook Discussion Page! Just ask to join, all are welcome. :)

YOUR SECRET

Click "Share a Secret" at secretroompod.com!

PODCAST TEAM

Producer: Susie Lark. Story Development: Luna Patel. Music and Theme: Breakmaster Cylinder.

LISTENER SURVEY

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Angela tells how as a kid all she wanted was her mom. And all her mom wanted to do was teach her how to melt crack. It's a backstory no one would suspect, including her daughter.

DAILY LOOK

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HERS

Visit forhers.com/SECRET for your personalized weight loss treatment options. Weight Loss by Hers is not available everywhere. Compounded products are not approved or reviewed for safety, effectiveness, or quality by the FDA. Prescription required. See website for full details, important safety information, and restrictions. Actual price depends on product and plan purchased.

HOME CHEF

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MINT MOBILE

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PICTURES

See Angela, her parents and grandparents. And of course see her grandma's secret prayer.

They are waiting for you on Threads, Facebook, Instagram and X. Handle: @secretroompod.

YOUTUBE

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Rose grew up in a country ruled by an authoritarian regime. To escape persecution, she tricked her Dad into helping her flee. How she got out and why she would leave her family are her secret. Host: Susie Lark.

The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial!

FACEBOOK DISCUSSION GROUP

There's even more fun at The Secret Room Podcast Facebook Discussion Page! Just ask to join, all are welcome. :)

YOUR SECRET

Click "Share a Secret" at secretroompod.com!

PODCAST TEAM

Producer: Susie Lark. Story Development: Luna Patel. Music and Theme: Breakmaster Cylinder.

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Danielle's Hungarian born husband hates suburban life and yearns to return to Budapest. They've set a date, but her secret is she's not moving. It's a complicated story of the competing forces of love and family. Here is her Reddit thread!

DAILY LOOK

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HOME CHEF

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PICTURES

See pictures of Danielle and David in Budapest. Also their Texas and Budapest homes.

They are waiting for you on Threads, Facebook, Instagram and X. Handle: @secretroompod.

YOUTUBE

You can listen to The Secret Room now on YouTube!

THE SECRET ROOM | UNLOCKED

David and Danielle join us together after they've listened to today's episode. What will David's reaction be? We'll hear his side of the story in just a week. Host: Susie Lark.

The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial!

ALL OUR SPONSORS

See all our sponsors past and present, and their offers, many of which are still valid: secretroompodcast.com/codes

FACEBOOK DISCUSSION GROUP

There's even more fun at The Secret Room Podcast Facebook Discussion Page! Just ask to join, all are welcome. :)

YOUR SECRET

Click "Share a Secret" at secretroompod.com!

PODCAST TEAM

Producer: Susie Lark. Story Development: Luna Patel. Music and Theme: Breakmaster Cylinder.

LISTENER SURVEY

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Armed with nothing more than a name and an old family photo, Lexie goes on the hunt to find her biological father. And when she finds him she realizes she has a secret she can't share with him. It's a complicated story of family, secrets and broken trust.

DAILY LOOK

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HERS

Thank you, HERS! Go to forhers.com/SECRET for your personalized weight loss treatment options. Weight Loss by Hers is not available everywhere. Compounded products are not approved or reviewed for safety, effectiveness, or quality by the FDA. Prescription required. See website for full details, important safety information, and restrictions. Actual price depends on product and plan purchased.

HOME CHEF

For a limited time, get 50% off and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life! HomeChef.com/SECRET. Must be an active subscriber to receive free dessert.

WILD GRAIN

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PICTURES

See pictures of Lexie, her family and fiancee.

They are waiting for you on Threads, Facebook, Instagram and X. Handle: @secretroompod.

YOUTUBE

You can listen to The Secret Room now on YouTube!

THE SECRET ROOM | UNLOCKED

If you are in love with Lexie, and who couldn't be at this point, she's back in one week to talk about what it was like to share her finally secret. She also tells us her max meet-cute story of how she met her fiancee. There's a free trial for the show, after which we hope you'll stay on as a supporting member, because the Secret Room is a listener supported show. Host: Susie Lark.

The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial!

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How could Lexie not know that she was black? And when the secret was revealed it nearly shattered her world. It's a complicated story of family, secrets and broken trust.

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HERS

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PICTURES

See pictures of Lexie and her fam now. Also see the the picture of Lexie's mom and her bio dad her grandfather showed her

They are waiting for you on Threads, Facebook, Instagram and X. Handle: @secretroompod.

YOUTUBE

You can listen to The Secret Room now on YouTube!

THE SECRET ROOM | UNLOCKED

Deja, like Lexie on today's show, is black and raised by white parents. But her experience was different. On the outside she seemed like the perfect pastor's kid. But her secret was that on the inside she was living in conflict with everything she was taught and never knew how to make all of those pieces fit together. Host: Susie Lark.

The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial!

ALL OUR SPONSORS

See all our sponsors past and present, and their offers, many of which are still valid: secretroompodcast.com/codes

FACEBOOK DISCUSSION GROUP

There's even more fun at The Secret Room Podcast Facebook Discussion Page! Just ask to join, all are welcome. :)

YOUR SECRET

Click "Share a Secret" at secretroompod.com!

PODCAST TEAM

Producer: Susie Lark. Story Development: Luna Patel. Music and Theme: Breakmaster Cylinder.

LISTENER SURVEY

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In our last episode, "I Robbed a Subway Sandwich Store," Kat tells how she got tangled up in the robbery of a sandwich shop one hair raising night. Today our subway sandwich robbing heroine Kat is back with the high octane conclusion of her story. Part 2 opens with a bang. Literally. Listen to find out how Rachel's car blows up after the high speed car chase that ensued after the robbery.

DAILY LOOK

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DRIP DROP

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HERS

Visit forhers.com/SECRET for your personalized weight loss treatment options. Hers Weight Loss by Hers is not available everywhere. Compounded products are not approved or reviewed for safety, effectiveness, or quality by the FDA. Prescription required. See website for full details, important safety information, and restrictions. Actual price depends on product and plan purchased.

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PICTURES

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YOUTUBE

You can listen to The Secret Room now on YouTube!

THE SECRET ROOM | UNLOCKED

Gabi moves to the US on a student visa to go to a university, but her visa status is tied to her GPA. She ends up making some very poor decisions that put her visa in jeopardy and she's got to get creative to keep everything from blowing up in front of her parents. Host: Susie Lark.

The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial!

ALL OUR SPONSORS

See this week's sponsors and their offers at secretroompodcast.com/codes

FACEBOOK DISCUSSION GROUP

There's even more fun at The Secret Room Podcast Facebook Discussion Page! Just ask to join, all are welcome. :)

YOUR SECRET

Click "Share a Secret" at secretroompod.com!

PODCAST TEAM

Producer: Susie Lark. Story Development: Luna Patel. Music and Theme: Breakmaster Cylinder.

LISTENER SURVEY

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Kat tells us about one hair-raising night that ended with a high speed car chase, an explosion and some cash. But did they get away with it?

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PICTURES

See Kat, Rachel, Rick and Janice!

They are waiting for you on Threads, Facebook, Instagram and X. Handle: @secretroompod.

YOUTUBE

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THE SECRET ROOM | UNLOCKED

Gabi and her friends were just your average group of teens in a small town. But one thing set them apart; they started an anonymous social media page online to share gossip and rumors. All the kids followed it and talked about it, but what they didn't know was how badly it would come back to bite them. Host: Susie Lark.

The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial!

ALL OUR SPONSORS

See this week's sponsors and their offers at secretroompodcast.com/codes.

FACEBOOK DISCUSSION GROUP

There's even more fun at The Secret Room Podcast Facebook Discussion Page! Just ask to join, all are welcome. :)

YOUR SECRET

Click "Share a Secret" at secretroompod.com!

PODCAST TEAM

Producer: Susie Lark. Story Development: Luna Patel. Music and Theme: Breakmaster Cylinder.

LISTENER SURVEY

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One drunken afternoon Michelle's girlfriend confessed to a murder. The circumstances surrounding the killing were darker than she could imagine, and it's turned her life upside down.

PICTURES

See pictures from Michelle's story.They are waiting for you on Threads, Facebook, Instagram and X. Handle: @secretroompod.

YOUTUBE

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THE SECRET ROOM | UNLOCKED

Host: Susie Lark.

The Secret Room | Unlocked is yours when you support your favorite indie podcast that could with a membership at patreon.com/secretroom, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There's a free trial!

FACEBOOK DISCUSSION GROUP

There's even more fun at The Secret Room Podcast Facebook Discussion Page! Just ask to join, all are welcome. :)

YOUR SECRET

Click "Share a Secret" at secretroompod.com!

PODCAST TEAM

Producer: Susie Lark. Story Development: Luna Patel. Music and Theme: Breakmaster Cylinder.

LISTENER SURVEY

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