What's Your Why?

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What’s Your Why? is a powerful way to learn about Wyoming people, Wyoming issues and just great stories we have the opportunity to capture – people’s stories who live in Wyoming and people who visit. We bring these stories to you. And we hope it inspires and ignites the question in all of us. What’s your why? ThinkWY | Wyoming Humanities podcasts are created to capture the stories in and outside of Wyoming to share ideas, perspectives, and insights about the human experience.

  • 30 minutes 45 seconds
    Grizzlies, Paramedics, and the Power of Storytelling with Kevin Grange

    Writing is an act of celebration. In all my books, I’m celebrating something—whether it’s grizzly bears, the Himalayas, or the paramedic experience – Kevin Grange

    Join host Emy Digrappa on Winds of Change as she sits down with award-winning author, paramedic, and firefighter Kevin Grange. In this episode, Kevin shares his journey from the landscapes of New Hampshire to the adrenaline-filled streets of Los Angeles as a paramedic—and how these experiences shaped his storytelling.

    His latest book, Grizzly Confidential, where Kevin explores the hidden world of grizzly bears, challenging myths and revealing their surprising intelligence, complex social behaviors, and critical role in the ecosystem. From bear encounters in Alaska’s untamed wilderness to the ethical dilemmas of human-bear coexistence in places like Yellowstone, Kevin offers a fresh perspective on these majestic predators.

    Whether you're a wildlife enthusiast, an aspiring writer, or simply curious about the intersection of adventure and conservation, this episode shares Kevin’s passion for the wild and his journey into writing.

    Resources:

    1. Kevin Grange’s Books:
      • Beneath Blossom Rain (about trekking in Bhutan)

      • Lights and Sirens (paramedic school in LA)

      • Grizzly Confidential (his latest, on grizzly bears)
    • Doug and Lynn Seus (trainers of Bart the Bear, the grizzly from The Edge)

    • National Parks/Reserves mentioned:

      • Yellowstone National Park 

      • Grand Teton National Park

      • Katmai National Park, Alaska (Brooks Falls)

      • McNeil River State Game Sanctuary, Alaska

    • Instagram: @kevin.m.grange

    • Website: kevingrange.com

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    4 June 2025, 9:00 am
  • 39 minutes 40 seconds
    Myths of the American West: A Conversation with Historian Betsy Gaines Quammen

    The cowboy myth isn’t just about nostalgia—it’s a symbol of independence that still defines Western identity, for better or worse. – Betsy Gaines Quammen


    Join host Emy Digrappa on What's Your Why? The Author's Journey as she sits down with historian and writer Betsy Gaines Quammen, author of True West: Myth and Mending on the Far Side of America. In this episode, Betsy discusses the myths and misconceptions surrounding the American West—from Hollywood’s romanticized cowboys to the modern-day influx of newcomers seeking their own slice of wilderness.

    Growing up in Ohio but making Montana her home for over 30 years, Betsy brings a unique perspective as both an insider and a scholar of Western history. She discusses how pop culture shapes perceptions of the West, the challenges of tourism and conservation, and the real stories behind the cowboy myth.

    Whether you're a history buff, a lover of the outdoors, or just curious about the cultural forces shaping the West, this conversation gives insight into the complexities of a region often misunderstood. Plus, get a sneak peek into Betsy’s next project—a thrilling exploration of ghost stories and the history behind them!

    Tune in for our discussion that challenges stereotypes and celebrates the diverse truths of the American West.

    🔹 Available on all major podcast platforms. Brought to you by Wyoming Humanities.
    #AmericanWest #WesternHistory #CowboyMyths #TrueWest #Conservation #Yellowstone #AuthorInterview #WyomingHumanities #Podcast

    Resources:

    1. True West: Myth and Mending on the Far Side of America – Betsy’s latest book, exploring myths and realities of the American West.
    2. American Zion: Cliven Bundy, God, and Public Lands – Betsy’s first book, examining land-use conflicts and the Bundy family.
    3. Billionaire Wilderness: The Ultra-Wealthy and the Remaking of the American West by Justin Farrell – Referenced for its insights on economic inequities in Western communities.


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    28 May 2025, 9:00 am
  • 39 minutes 55 seconds
    🎙 From Frat House to Feature Film: Max Marshall’s Wild Journey Through Crime, Culture & EDM


    “It wasn’t just a drug story—it was about memory loss, collective blackouts, and how privilege lets some people escape consequences entirely.”

    — Max Marshall on the themes behind Among the Bros


    In this episode of What’s Your Why? The Author’s Journey, host Emy DiGrappa sits down with investigative journalist and debut author Max Marshall, whose breakout book Among the Bros explores fraternity life, drug trafficking, and the shadowy systems of privilege on American campuses. Max opens up about turning his true-crime exposé into a feature film for Sony, his brush with organized crime in Vietnam, and his new book-in-progress diving deep into the world of electronic dance music (EDM) as a first-time DJ.


    From elite prep schools to underground raves, Max brings a fresh voice to cultural criticism and immersive storytelling. Buckle up for a fascinating conversation about power, memory, addiction, and the pursuit of purpose—on and off the page.

    #WhatsYourWhyPodcast #AuthorsJourney #WritersOfInstagram #BookLoversUnite #TrueCrimeReads #AuthorInterview #LiteraryPodcast #StoryBehindTheStory


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    21 May 2025, 9:00 am
  • 30 minutes 16 seconds
    Writing Between Worlds: Rebecca Balcárcel on Heritage, Identity, and Middle Grade Magic

    “You can actually be whole only if you have both sides of yourself included in your identity.” Rebecca Balcárcel


    In this episode of What's Your Why?, host Emy Digrappa sits down with Guatemalan Anglo-American author and poet Rebecca Balcárcel, acclaimed for The Other Half of Happy and Shine On, Luz Véliz!. Rebecca shares her inspiring journey from avid young reader to award-winning middle grade author, weaving in stories of family, identity, and the complexities of growing up bicultural. 


    From raising identical twins to discovering a half-sister in Guatemala, Rebecca opens up about the deep personal roots behind her fiction and the transformative power of writing for young readers. This episode is a heartfelt look at how authors find wholeness through storytelling and how cultural heritage shapes the stories we tell.


    📚 Books by Rebecca Balcárcel

    • The Other Half of Happy
      A middle-grade novel about Quijana, a biracial girl navigating her Guatemalan and American identities. The book has received starred reviews from School Library Journal and Booklist and was recognized as a Pura Belpré Honor Book. 
    • Shine On, Luz Véliz!
      This novel follows Luz, a tech-savvy Latina whose life changes when she discovers a Guatemalan half-sister. The story delves into themes of family, identity, and cultural heritage.

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    14 May 2025, 9:00 am
  • 43 minutes 12 seconds
    Writing the West: A Literary Life with Tracy Daugherty

    You can’t wait for inspiration. You have to develop a habit. Even when you don’t feel like writing, you show up—and the mind begins to wake up. – Tracy Daugherty

    In this episode of What’s Your Why?, host Emy DiGrappa welcomes acclaimed author and biographer Tracy Daugherty for a deep and thoughtful conversation about the craft of writing, the influence of landscape, and the shaping power of culture. From his West Texas upbringing to his literary inspirations like Larry McMurtry and Joan Didion, Tracy shares his journey into storytelling, his disciplined writing habits, and the physicality of language.

    They discuss what it means to grow up in a place that feels “unliterary,” how personal and public histories intersect in the writer’s work, and why Tracy is drawn to biography as a form of cultural history. He also opens up about his current project on Cormac McCarthy and the ethical complexities of writing about real lives.

    Whether you’re a writer, reader, or lover of Western landscapes and literary voices, this episode offers rich insights into the rhythms of a writing life—and the meaning we find in the stories we tell.

    Key topics:

    • Writing habit vs. inspiration

    • Larry McMurtry’s legacy and the myths of the American West

    • Biography as cultural history

    • AI and authorship in the digital age

    • Sky watching, family, and finding your place through story

    Resources:

    👉 Learn more about Tracy Daugherty and his work at tracydaugherty.com

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    30 April 2025, 9:00 am
  • 40 minutes 43 seconds
    Rachel Berg Weaves Art Identity and Nature into Cultural Tapestry

    "The land has always been my touching stone." – Rachel Berg

    In this episode, I sit down with Rachel Berg, a multifaceted artist whose work blends diverse cultural influences and artistic mediums. Rachel's unique background, combining Mnicoujou, Lakota, Mexican, and German heritage, serves as the foundation for her creative expression and worldview. This episode offers a glimpse into the mind of an artist who bridges cultures, pushes creative boundaries, and finds inspiration in the natural world around us. Rachel's story is a testament to the power of art in exploring identity, connecting communities, and fostering a deeper understanding of our shared human experience.

    About Rachel Berg:

    Rachel Olivia Berg (Mnicoujou Lakota, Mexican, German) works in diverse media as an artist, teacher, and the founder of LivArtfully Studio. Graduating from Princeton University and Columbia University Teachers College, since 2004 she has designed and fabricated custom large-scale commissions in notable commercial projects across Turtle Island. Berg expanded her studio practice in 2023 to engage with research-based methodologies that explore Indigenous ontologies, histories, healing, and cultural relationships to nature and ecology. Berg was a 2023 Emerging Artist Fellow with the Ann Street Gallery in Newburgh, NY. She is an enrolled member of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe.

     

    A Journey of Cultural Exploration

    • The complexities of growing up with diverse cultural influences

    • The role of language in cultural identity and artistic expression

    • How Rachel's multicultural background informs her creative process

    • Her educational journey, from Princeton University to Teachers College at Columbia

    • The transition from commercial art to personal artistic expression

    • How teaching has influenced her approach to artmaking

     

    Large-Scale Installations and Public Art

    • The inspiration behind her monumental installations

    • Her innovative use of materials and techniques

    • The use of repetition and natural elements in her installations

     

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    6 March 2025, 10:00 am
  • 32 minutes 29 seconds
    Empower and Lead: A Woman's Journey in Entrepreneurship with Zeahlot Lopez

    "Become the honey pot and the bees will come." - Zeahlot Lopez 

    Welcome to "Empower and Lead: Women's Journey in Entrepreneurship." Are you tirelessly proving your worth and significance, yet still feeling unfulfilled? You're not alone. Many women entrepreneurs strive for success and recognition but continue to struggle with old belief systems. The hustle can be exhausting when fulfillment and a sense of worthiness seem just out of reach.

    In this episode, we learn the fascinating story of entrepreneur Zeahlot Lopez who became the youngest cosmetologist in California at just 17. Later transitioning into a career as a psychotherapist, she discovered the transformative powers of meditation and self-discipline. Now, she's on a mission to empower women across the globe. Listen to her journey as a first-generation Mexican American entrepreneur.

    My special guest is Zeahlot Lopez

    Zeahlot Lopez, an international speaker, mentor, and author, has dedicated over a decade to empowering women. As a first-generation Mexican American with a master’s in counseling psychology and advanced leadership studies from USC, she has founded multiple businesses and mentored hundreds globally. Zeahlot's role as CEO of Business and Pleasure Inc. has transformed countless lives, particularly for culturally diverse and first-generation women. Her journey of navigating both cultures and being the first generation of women to understand the power of female leadership has shaped her perspective. With a deep understanding of the importance of self-awareness and the power of choice, Zeahlot brings a unique and insightful approach to the topic of women's empowerment in entrepreneurship.

    In this episode, you will be able to:

    • Appreciate the obstacles and struggles of first-generation women entrepreneurs

    • Discover the transformative benefits of meditation for your leadership in business

    • Break free from cyclical patterns through self-awareness and create new paths to success

    • Harness the power of discipline for personal and professional growth. 

    • Learn about worthiness for increased empowerment as a woman in entrepreneurship. 

    The resources mentioned in this episode are:

    • Connect with Zeahlot Lopez on social media platforms such as Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, TikTok, Medium, and Substack by searching for her unique name Zeahlot. 

    • Visit Zeahlot's website at Zealot.com to explore more about her work, services, and resources. 

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    5 December 2024, 10:00 am
  • 32 minutes 27 seconds
    Celebrating Your Uniqueness: A Journey of Self-Discovery: Carrie Klewin Lawrence

    "When you take time to listen to yourself and to be excited and to celebrate that individuality, I think it creates such a rich opportunity for conversation and real, authentic connection with people." - Carrie Klewin Lawrence

    Hey there, get ready to hear about the power of personal storytelling in this conversation. There is a surprising journey, and insights shared by our special guest, Carrie Klewin Lawrence, as she describes her own journey in capturing creativity and conquering imposter syndrome. Discover how embracing your uniqueness can lead to increased confidence and decision-making. We are excited for you to learn about this inspiring and fun conversation, so stay tuned! Carries talks about the solutions to help you embrace your uniqueness and build your personal story with confidence.

    My special guest is Carrie Klewin Lawrence

    Carrie Klewin Lawrence, a seasoned stage director, public speaking coach, and author, joins the conversation with a wealth of experience in strategic storytelling for success. Her journey from theater to business coaching offers a refreshing take on embracing individuality and conquering imposter syndrome. Carrie's dynamic background and passion for storytelling provide a compelling angle for delving into creativity and personal growth. With her unique insights and relatable approach, she brings a valuable perspective to the exploration of personal storytelling and decision-making.

    In this episode, you will be able to:

    • Learn the art of strategic storytelling.

    • Unleash your creativity to build a powerful and authentic personal brand that sets you apart. 

    • Overcome imposter syndrome by harnessing the power of storytelling to boost your confidence and self-belief. 

    • Carrie Klewin Lawrence offers insights into unleashing the power of creativity through storytelling. 

    • She encourages individuals to tap into their creativity and unique perspectives to craft compelling narratives. By embracing creativity, individuals can overcome imposter syndrome and confidently share their stories with the world.

    The resources mentioned in this episode are:

    •  Visit Carrie Klewin Lawrence and her work in coaching, branding, and public speaking. The website also provides information about her book Origin Story and her upcoming journal. 

    •  Check out Carrie Klewin Lawrence's book Origin Story to explore the power of storytelling, finding your why, and deepening your relationship with your instincts and intuition. 

    •  Look out for Carrie Klewin Lawrence's upcoming journal, designed to help individuals step by step through exercises and preparations outlined in her book Origin Story. 

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    14 November 2024, 10:00 am
  • 29 minutes 52 seconds
    Sparking Awe in the Next Generation: Catherine Barr Uses Picture Books & Storytelling to Reveal the Wonders of Nature

    I think everybody should read picture books, whether you're three or 90 or, in fact, 97, like my mom. - Catherine Barr

    I absolutely love what I do and embrace the endlessly fascinating, collaborative journey of working with scientists, subject experts and the incredible illustrators and publishers who bring my ideas to life. – Catherine Barr

    Uncover the unexpected story of how a children's book author's accidental journey led to captivating tales of nature and wildlife that have inspired children worldwide. Catherine Barr’s passion for sparking curiosity in young minds will inspire you. Her unique approach to storytelling has led to collaborative efforts in classrooms, igniting a love for learning and creativity in children. In this What’s Your Why? Episode, we dive into her journey as she continues to discover new stories and wonders of the natural world.

    My special guest is Catherine Barr

    Catherine Barr, a celebrated children's book author, is widely recognized for her nonfiction works that explore the stories and remarkable facts of the natural world. With a background in ecology and a focus on wildlife issues, Catherine's passion for nature and wildlife shines through her writing. Her unique narrative nonfiction approach allows her to present complex topics such as conservation, endangered wildlife, ecosystems, and evolution in an engaging and accessible manner for young readers. Catherine's commitment to igniting a sense of wonder and curiosity in children about the environment has solidified her as a prominent author in the realm of children's literature on conservation.

    In this episode, you will be able to:

    Discover the world of natural wonders through engaging children's books on the environment and wildlife. 

    Learn the power of engaged storytelling as a tool for educating children about the environment and fostering a love for nature. 

    Explore Catherine Barr's inspiring journey to becoming an author passionate about environmental conservation, and how her experiences can motivate others. 

    Delve into the incredible impact of wolves in Yellowstone National Park and the vital role they play in maintaining a balanced ecosystem.

    Children's author Catherine Barr creates captivating non-fiction picture books, focusing on conservation, endangered wildlife, and climate change. Her narrative nonfiction approach allows children to engage with the natural world as a story, igniting their curiosity and interest in conservation.

    Barr's books target ages six to ten but also hold value for adults, emphasizing the importance of illustrations in conveying the narrative effectively.

    Ignite a passion for conservation in children through the enchanting world of picture books, fostering a deep connection with nature and wildlife. 

     

    The resources mentioned in this episode are:

    Wyoming Humanities - To learn more about Wyoming Humanities and their support for the podcast What's Your Why, visit their website at thinkwy.org. 

    Explore Catherine Barr's books, including 14 Wolves in the UK and The Tiger's Tale, visit the Bloomsbury website or your favorite book retailer. 

    British Antarctic Survey - For more information about the British Antarctic Survey and their research on wildlife, including the geo tracker used on a storm petrel, visit their official website. 

    Natural History Museum in Denver - To learn more about the Natural History Museum in Denver and their exhibits, including the T-Rex, visit their website or plan a visit to the museum.

     

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    31 October 2024, 9:00 am
  • 39 minutes 8 seconds
    From Family Trauma to Advocacy: An Intimate Portrait of Living with Mental Illness: Meg Kissinger

    There's two kinds of families, those with mental illness and those who don't have mental illness yet. - Thomas Insel 

    Are you seeking to overcome stigma and family trauma associated with mental illness? Join Emy Digrappa on What’s Your Why? podcast as she shares a compelling conversation with Meg Kissinger, where they explore managing mental illness and overcoming stigma and family trauma. Gain a new perspective and increased awareness. It's time to uncover the solution to achieving a better understanding of mental illness. Award-winning journalist Meg Kissinger reveals how her family was besieged by mental illness in an era of silence. With a Pulitzer Prize finalist's perspective, she shares heart-wrenching stories of stigma, trauma, and loss. Join us as she opens up about her own family's struggles and how they coped with the challenges of mental illness.

    My special guest is Meg Kissinger

    Meg Kissinger spent over two decades traveling across the country as an investigative journalist, delving into America's mental health system for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. As a Pulitzer Prize finalist and recipient of numerous awards including two George Polk Awards and the Robert F. Kennedy Award, Meg's extensive experience and dedication to shedding light on mental illness make her a compelling voice for raising awareness and understanding. Her book, "While You Were Out," not only chronicles her family's struggle with mental illness but also explores the systemic challenges they faced, offering a testament to the enduring power of love. 

    In this episode, you will be able to:

    • Understand the impact of mental illness on American families, and how to support your loved ones through it. 

    • Discover the detrimental effects of silence on mental health and how breaking the silence can lead to positive change. 

    •  Explore the historical journey of mental health treatment and its evolution to better understand the present-day landscape. 

    •  Learn about the role of medication in managing mental illness and how it can be a valuable tool in treatment. 

    •  Uncover effective ways to overcome the stigma surrounding mental health and create a more supportive environment for those affected. 

    The resources mentioned in this episode are:

    •  National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) - Visit their website for education classes, support groups, and resources for families dealing with mental illness. Website: nami.org 

    •  988 Suicide Helpline - If you or someone you know is feeling suicidal, call 988 for immediate help and support. 

    • Learn about Tom lnsel, M.D., a psychiatrist and neuroscientist, has been a national leader in mental health research, policy, and technology.

    • Wyoming Humanities - Visit thinkwy.org to learn more about the Wyoming Humanities organization and their events, including the book festival where Meg Kissinger will be in conversation with a doctor. 

    • Read Meg Kissinger's Book - While You Were Out: A Memoir of a Family Besieged by Mental Illness - to gain insight into the impact of mental illness on families and society. 

     

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    10 October 2024, 9:00 am
  • 42 minutes 50 seconds
    Beyond Cowboys and Indians: Seeking Common Ground in the American Frontier with Stephen Aron

    Even for all the problems that it brings forward, it also brings forward possibilities and promise. - Stephen Aron

    Discover the American West's alternative history. In this What’s Your Why? podcast we discover some of the little-known stories of peace and friendship amidst the frontier's violence. Join us as we unravel the perspectives and role of government in Western expansion. Get ready for a more nuanced understanding of the American West's complex past. But what if everything you thought you knew about the Wild West was just one side of the coin? Stay tuned to hear the untold tales that challenge conventional narratives and give a new perspective about the American West. For example, the Spanish influence in the American West is often overlooked in traditional history. That’s the joy of history, there's always a different perspective to learn and imagine.

    My special guest is Stephen Aron

    Stephen Aron, President and CEO of the Autry Museum of the American West in Los Angeles, California, is not just an author, but a storyteller who unravels the complexities of the American West. His latest book, “Peace and Friendship: An Alternative History of the American Frontier”, challenges conventional narratives by spotlighting lesser-known currents that diverge from the mainstream of Western American history. With a background in colonial American history, Aron's journey into the history of the American West led him to explore the moments and places where peace and unexpected friendships between former foes emerged, offering an alternative perspective to the often-violent history taught in schools. Aron's work presents a fresh and thought-provoking take on the American West, emphasizing the importance of understanding the realities of historical events.

     

    In this episode, you will be able to:

    • Explore alternative perspectives of American West history that challenge traditional narratives, offering a fresh understanding of the era. 

    • Uncover the profound impact of colonialism on Native Americans, shedding light on a crucial but often overlooked aspect of Western history. 

    • Examine the pivotal role of government in the expansion of the Western frontier, providing insight into the complex dynamics of power and influence. 

    • Learn about Daniel Boone's interactions with the Shawnee Indians, revealing the complexities of cross-cultural encounters during this period. 

    • Discover the remarkable resilience and survival strategies of Native American cultures in the face of immense challenges, offering a deeper appreciation of their enduring heritage. 

    Alternative Perspectives on Western American History

     In exploring the history of the American West, Stephen Aron offers a fresh perspective by highlighting moments of peace and friendship amidst the conflict-ridden narratives typically associated with the region. His book, “Peace and Friendship: An Alternative History of the American Frontier”, challenges traditional views by showcasing instances of cooperation and connection between different cultural groups. By shedding light on these lesser-known aspects, Aron encourages a more nuanced understanding of the complexities of Western expansion.

    The resources mentioned in this episode are:

    •  Autry Museum of the American West - Learn more about the Autry Museum of the American West and explore their exhibits, events, and resources by visiting their official website at theautry.org. 

    • Peace and Friendship:  an Alternative History of the American West - Discover Stephen Aron's latest book, which delves into the lesser-known currents of the American West's history. Find the book on major online bookstores or at local book retailers. 

    •  Reclaiming El Camino Exhibit - Explore the Reclaiming El Camino: Native Resistance in the Missions and Beyond exhibit at the Autry Museum, focusing on the genocidal destruction, resistance, and resilience of Native American communities in California. 

    • Wyoming Humanities - To learn more about Wyoming Humanities and their initiatives, including the What's Your Why podcast, visit thinkwy.org. 

    • Worlds Together, Worlds Apart - Explore Stephen Aron's co-authored world history textbook, provides a comprehensive understanding of global historical contexts. 

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    19 September 2024, 9:00 am
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