A podcast exploring music, education, technology, and the intersections between them.
In this episode of Music Ed Tech Talk, Robby sits down with Theresa Hoover to discuss AI guidance in music education, creativity in the classroom, task management for educators, and what's new in their professional lives. Topics include NAfME guidance on AI, next-gen Siri, automation workflows, and listener questions about sustaining creativity in a distracted world.
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Show Notes & Links
Intro & Community
00:00:00 – Hello and welcome
00:00:30 – Thanks to new Patreon supporter, Drew Ross
News, Blogs, and AI Updates
00:01:23 – Theresa's newest blog on COPPA and FERPA** - https://offthebeatenpathinmusic.com/play-it-safe/
Affinity creative apps
00:10:30 – What's New in AI
Next-gen Siri (expected 2026)
AI Guidance in Music Education
00:16:15 – Released guidance in the music education world
Yamaha: AI in the Music Classroom
NAfME: Guiding Principles, Frameworks, and Applications for AI in Music Education
Classroom policy framing
Alignment language for administrators
Practical classroom use cases
Moises AI Studio — AI-generated, tempo- and harmony-aware accompaniment stems for student compositions and arranging
Higher Ed & Classroom Practice
00:24:15 – What is emerging from Theresa's undergraduate classes?
Automation Station
00:26:34 – Automation Station & task management
Concert planning task templates
Ask METT
00:32:21 – Listener question from Kate Bateman
How do you manage teaching creativity and having opinions about music in a world where kids won't concentrate on anything for longer than a minute?
Reference: Drive by Daniel Pink
00:41:51 – What is music for for kids?
What's Up With Theresa
00:45:18 – New job update
Wrapping up the doctorate
00:52:08 – Is it finally time for forScore and an Apple Pencil?
What's Up With Robby
01:00:14 – New OS and first impressions of Apple Vision Pro
The "wow factor" is actually wow
Music Picks
01:13:38
Robby: The New Tango – Gary Burton & Astor Piazzolla
Theresa: Afterglow – Saint Motel (Oct. 2025)
Wrap-Up
01:17:39 – Where to find Theresa
Pass the Baton - https://passthebatonbook.com/pass-the-baton-podcast/
01:20:20 – Farewell… plus Q&A on Theresa's dissertation on music teachers and educational podcasts
Chapters
00:00:00 – Welcome & Intro
00:00:30 – Patreon Shout-Out
00:01:23 – COPPA, FERPA, and Blogs
00:10:30 – What's New in AI
00:16:15 – AI Guidance in Music Education
00:24:15 – Undergraduate Teaching Insights
00:26:34 – Automation Station
00:32:21 – Ask METT
00:41:51 – What Is Music For?
00:45:18 – What's Up With Theresa
00:52:08 – forScore & Apple Pencil
01:00:14 – What's Up With Robby
01:13:38 – Music Picks
01:20:20 – Final Q&A & Farewell
Where to Find Us
Robby: robbyburns.com
Theresa: theresahoover.com
00:00:00 Cold Open Cold Open: Marvel Slop & Anniversary Release of TMNT
Holiday Curtain Lights https://twinkly.com/
A small diversion into…bars!
Aloha Bars https://aloha.com/
David Protein Bars https://davidprotein.com/
00:10:10 Brand (clap) New (clap) Apple (clap) Products
Robby: New AirPods, New iPhone, New Watch
Pro 17: Used as computer-away-from-desk, really good pictures
Apple Watch Ultra: Much more computery. Stacked with
information. Alarm for when to end classes, water, and more!
Working on myself using my watch!
Jaye: New iPhone
Sweet Baby Air - becoming computer-away-from-desk
Tech in Schools: Digital Cameras on the Rise
Check in and Track Places https://swarmapp.com/
Fantastical Calendar https://apps.apple.com/us/app/fantastical-calendar/id718043190
00:28:03 Lock Screens/Home Screens
Jaye wants to customize MORE!
Referenced Throughout: The Demon Dogs
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/89-do-it-for-the-demon-dogs-with-dr-david-macdonald/id1078105776?i=1000728963549
Agile Tortoise https://agiletortoise.com/
Drafts
Simple Scan
Taking Notes with Draft, ft. Greg Pierce https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/taking-notes-with-drafts-featuring-greg-pierce-season/id1078105776?i=1000411001646
Marco Polo https://www.marcopolo.me/
Focus Friend https://apps.apple.com/us/app/focus-friend-by-hank-green/id6742278016
One Sec https://one-sec.app/
00:47:20 Robby teachers Jaye how to use new buttons! First, Camera!
00:49:04 Action Button
00:51:08 Control Center
00:53:30 Liquid Glass
00:54.53 Three Quick Workflows (put him on the clock folks)
Notion https://www.notion.com/
01:08:33 Music Picks!
Robby: D'Angelo, rest in peace <3
Dilla Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilla_Time
Jaye: IAM - L'école du micro d'argent https://open.spotify.com/album/3atPIVCVIIgak6KeB1ANnK?si=vpaAN3RmSkSHcw-V38zheA
Jaye's Buddy: https://www.raminamirarjomand.com/
Back to School! In this episode, Robby and David cover Apple upgrades, Obsidian and Craft workflows, automation shortcuts, learning resources, AI in education, and much more.
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Chapters
00:00:00 – iPhone Replacement Plans
00:04:25 – Replacing Apple Watch with Real Watch, Replacing Apples with more Apples
00:11:00 – iOS Windows - Beta Problem or Just Hosed?
00:15:15 – Obsidian (for a minute)
00:17:17 – Just kidding, Finale News
00:26:46 – Okay NOW Obsidian…
00:27:38 – …and Craft
00:45:35 – Video Series Learning Resources??
00:50:54 – Search terms and how to find the basics
00:59:20 – Automation Station: Robby's "Let's Go To Work" Shortcut
01:11:30 – Siri News - SirAI
01:16:11 – Technology Dreams
01:22:55 – David Bullies Robby…
01:24:25 – Is EVERYONE cheating their way through college? AI in Education
01:33:18 – NAfME's AI Guidance Document
Show Notes and Links
• Patreon – Music Ed Tech Talk
• Obsidian
• Cory Meals – Building a Second Music Teacher Brain
• Craft
• Things
• David Sparks – MacSparky Courses
• Udemy
• NYMag – Everyone is Cheating Their Way Through College
Where to Find Us
Robby – robbyburns.com
David - davidmacdonaldmusic.com
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Dorico and Ableton updates, Big Tech Keynotes, and new automation workflows.
Show Notes and Links
• Dorico 6 release announcement
• MuseClass Shuttering It's Service
• Sam Altman and Jony Ive AI device project
• Sky App
• I'm With Her – See You Around
• Hvalfugl – En Dag | Oktober EP
• More like K-BOP, amirite? by David MacDonald
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• Robby - robbyburns.com
• Will - willkuhn.com
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Brenna C. Horn-Cronin, Executive General Manager at School Music License, joins the show to discuss how the service empowers music educators to navigate performance licensing ethically and efficiently. We cover administrative advocacy, the future of licensing in education, pricing structures, and more.
Show Notes and Links...
School Music License Resources
• School Music License Website
• Email: [email protected]
• Promo Code: TechTalk10 – 10 % off your first purchase!
Referenced Podcast
Chapters
00:00:00 – School Music License Overview
00:06:20 – Working for and with teachers, and calming the fears of "gotchas"
00:08:27 – How the service has positively affected teachers
00:12:10 – What's coming next?
00:13:35 – Pricing Tiers
00:16:20 – Administrative Advocacy
00:17:58 – Small Scale Licenses
00:20:40 – The importance of educating educators and keeping up with technology
00:22:00 – Visions for other areas of Music Education
00:30:10 – BREAK! Podcasting About Podcasting
00:35:10 – Encouraging LESS technology use (during performances) – how and why
00:42:45 – School Culture and giving credit where credit is due
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Websites are back! Robby redid his blog and Stream Deck setups. The Metallica concert in Vision Pro is awesome. AI tools for musicians have always been useful, and we do some music picks. Big topic: Will and I grade Apple.
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Chapters
00:00:28 - Thanks again, Molly!
00:00:52 - RobbyBurns.com, WordPress!
00:03:48 - Blog Highlights & Websites Are Back
00:13:19 - Ableton Updates
00:17:50 - Yamaha SEQTRAK
00:19:35 - Vision Pro + Metallica
00:24:36 - AI Tools for Musicians
00:34:03 - Automation Corner
00:43:15 - Apple Report Card
00:58:37 - Music Picks and Media Recs
Show Notes
Intro
Thanks to our supporters and a special shoutout to Molly.
News and Mini Topics
The blog has moved! MarsEdit + WordPress
Recent blog posts:
AI
Will's presentation: AI tools for studio musicians
Automation Corner
Robby redid his Stream Decks at home and at work
Related:
Big Topics
Music Picks
Robby
Will
Where to Find Us
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Will - willkuhn.com
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Jaye joins the show to discuss how our homescreens reflect our tech setups and most-used apps.
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Chapters
• 00:00:00 – Welcome to the show, Jaye, and the new Music Ed Tech Team
• 00:02:25 – Thank you, Molly!
• 00:03:41 – I…moved…my blog…to Wordpress
• 00:07:11 – Tradeshow Talk
• 00:12:50 – What a shock, we're back on stationary
• 00:20:00 – Desks, The Series
• 00:22:50 – The Very First "Roast My Home Screen"
• 00:28:25 – Quick Pivot back to Tradeshows, but really it's a rant about Contacts
• 00:37:07 – Focus Settings and "Roast My Home Screen"
• 01:06:16 – Health Apps
• 01:17:30 – The Pump, by Arnold
• 01:23:30 – Music and Media Recommendations
Show Notes
• See Ya Space Cowboy on Substack
• Music Ed Tech Talk on Patreon
• Technology Institute for Music Educators (TI:ME)
• Pilot Vanishing Point Fountain Pens - Goulet Pens
• ClickUp
• Podcast: "I Don't Want a Valuable Life Lesson…" (Ep. 69)
• Readwise Reader Now Syncs Highlights to Apple Notes – Music Ed Tech Talk
• Apple iPhone Support – Differentiate or Tone Down Colors
• Björk – Post (Official Shop)
• Ibrahim Maalouf Official Site
• Dolphin Hyperspace on Minaret Records
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Will is here! We discuss forthcoming changes to the show, automation, apps of the year, tech we're thankful for, and some of our favorite media we've been engaging with.
This episode was recorded in late December 2024.
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Chapters
00:00:00 Here he goes taking about Dark Souls again
00:08:15 MCU (Muppet Cinematic Universe)
00:15:14 Introducing…Will Kuhn, now a METT Regular! And Jaye, podcast editor!
00:20:23 2025 Mike Kovins TI:ME Teacher of the Year Robby Burns - acknowledgments and thank yous.
00:27:04 Thank you Patreon Supporter Susan!
00:27:46 MacStories' App of the Year: Delta Emulator
00:40:31 Siri Shortcuts App
00:43:32 Current AI uses - productivity, creativity, philosophy
00:51:31 Robby's National Board Certification Application and NotebookLM
00:57:51 What are we really trying to do [with AI and our students]?
01:02:58 Three Holiday Topic Blitz - Tech We're Thankful For; Tech We're Thankful For In the Workplace; Gifts and Gift Cards
01:16:54 How about music?!
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Show Notes:
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Show Notes:
• Music Ed Tech Talk WWDC Episode with Craig McClellan
• Due app
• Obsidian
• Anytune
• Canva
• Canva CEO Melanie Perkins thinks the design world needs more alternatives to Adobe
• Dorico
Music, App, Tech Tip of the Week
Classical Session: Hayato Sumino | Apple Music
MusicBox: Save Music For Later