JVN sits down with Kati Morton, a licensed therapist and bestselling author, to dive deep into the world of people-pleasing. Together, they unpack why people-pleasing isn’t just about being nice—it’s about discomfort with other people’s discomfort, and why it leaves so many of us feeling invisible, drained, and resentful.

Kati shares her expert tips on breaking free from the cycle, including practical strategies like “opposite action” and learning to set boundaries without guilt. They discuss why saying no doesn’t make you selfish, how to rediscover yourself when you’ve been lost in pleasing others, and why finding the courage to be disliked might be the most radical act of self-care.

Kati Morton, LMFT, is a licensed marriage and family therapist and a highly sought-after public speaker in the field of mental health. Starting with a Master's degree in Clinical Psychology from Pepperdine University, she has built a vast & vibrant online community.  Her YouTube channel - with over 1.4 million subscribers and 130 million views, has made her a prominent figure in translating complex mental health concepts into accessible language. Through her dynamic presence on social media and appearances on top-rated shows such as The TODAY Show, Dr. Phil, Alex Cooper’s Call Her Daddy, E! News, CBS The Doctors, and The Dr. Drew Show, Kati successfully spreads awareness, reduces stigma, and empowers individuals to prioritize their mental well-being. As an accomplished author of two best-selling books "Are u ok?: A Guide to Caring for Your Mental Health," and “Traumatized: Identify, Understand and Cope with PTSD and Emotional Stress”, Kati's dedication to dismantling barriers to mental health services and fostering a supportive global community is unmatched.

You can find Kati on Instagram and Tiktok @katimorton and on YouTube @KatiMorton

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British Vogue’s February cover star Renée Zellweger joins The Run-Through this week for a fun and fast-paced conversation about everything from her friendship with Hugh Grant to her favorite sandwich spot. The Oscar winner also reveals the moments in her life where she feels the most “Bridget Jones,” and how her Vogue cover came together. 

Plus, Chioma and Chloe discuss couture week and Glenn Martens being announced as Maison Margiela’s new Creative Director. 

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Beauty, politics, and Grammy predictions—oh my! In this episode of Pretty Curious, Jonathan Van Ness is answering listener questions and talking all things winter skincare to Hollywood hair theories. Need to save your dry, chapped hands this season? JVN offers a three-step moisturizing hack that’ll have your hands softer than ever.

Plus! Jonathan’s Hot and Healed tour is kicking off soon! They talk about their creative process and how Pilates and stand-up have been therapeutic recently. From recent legislative attacks on marginalized communities to the cultural complexities of gender expression, they highlight the importance of staying informed and engaged. To round things out, Jonathan and producer Chris McClure queen out over the upcoming Grammys—debating the big categories and dishing on their favorite hairstyles from the nominees. Plus, they explore the Hollywood Hair Theory: could a bold hairstyle change your career trajectory?

If you’’re able to support relief for the California wildfires, here are some amazing places doing amazing work that you can check out:

Anti Recidivism Coalition 

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Pasadena Humane 

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Trust—it’s a five-letter word that makes the world go 'round. In this episode, JVN sits down with Rachel Botsman, a leading expert on trust in the modern world, to explore the role trust plays in our relationships, decisions, and even society at large. Together, they dive into why trust isn’t just a feeling but a belief, how impulsivity and unmet expectations erode it, and how to rebuild trust with ourselves and others after it’s been broken. They unpack why “trust is a confident relationship with the unknown,” how learning to navigate uncertainty strengthens our self-trust, and the practical ways to foster trust through small, consistent actions. 

Rachel Botsman is a leading expert on trust in the modern world. She has authored three highly acclaimed books—What's Mine is Yours, Who Can You Trust?, and out now, How to Trust and Be Trusted. A sought-after speaker, her TED talks have amassed over five million views. Rachel teaches at Oxford University's Saïd Business School, where she created pioneering courses on trust in the digital age. Her writings have been widely published in the media including the Financial Times, The New York Times, Guardian, Harvard Business Review, and Wired.  She also engages with over 85,000 subscribers through her weekly Rethink newsletter. Rachel has been globally recognized with awards for her pioneering work, including the Women of the Year, British Podcast Awards, Thinkers50, Fast Company's 100 Most Creative People in Business, and named a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum.

You can find Rachel on Instagram @rachelbotsman and on her website www.rachelbotsman.com.

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Winter skin woes, Pilates breakthroughs, and a whole lot of beauty tea!  JVN is diving into all things skincare for the coldest months this side of the globe, from must-have moisturizers to whether that fancy face oil is really working for you. Plus! JVN spills on their latest pilates journey and the return to group fitness. But it’s not all glow-ups and gym gains—JVN also gets real about the highs and lows of launching a beauty brand, the lessons they’ve learned along the way, and why playing the long game is always worth it.

If you’’re able to support relief for the California wildfires, here are some amazing places doing amazing work that you can check out:

Anti Recidivism Coalition 

Mutual Aid

Pasadena Humane 

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Friendship breakups. Knowing when to hold on—and when to let go. JVN sits down with friendship coach Danielle Bayard Jackson to unpack the complexities of platonic relationships and why they can be just as emotionally charged as romantic ones. They dive into the signs that a friendship may have run its course, how to end things with integrity, and whether “friendship should be easy” is really just a myth. Plus! The emotional toll of ghosting, how to handle resentment, and why strong friendships impact our health more than diet and exercise.

Danielle Bayard Jackson is a friendship coach, educator, and author dedicated to helping women build and maintain meaningful connections. She provides coaching, hosts the Friend Forward podcast, and offers research-based strategies to navigate female friendships. Her expertise has been featured in The Washington Post, Oprah Magazine, and NBC News, and she’s worked with brands like Bumble and Harvard Business Review.

You can find Danielle on Instagram @daniellebayardjackson and on TikTok @thefriendshipexpert.

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Golden Globes glamour, behind-the-scenes intel, and a whole lot of feels—this episode has layers, and we’re not talking about a haircut. JVN takes us inside their first-ever Golden Globes red carpet, from jaw-dropping fashion moments (Emma Stone’s pixie! Andrew Scott’s suit!) to mingling with Hollywood icons at the after-parties. Plus! BTS from the red carpet, handling the chaos of live interviews, and that very unexpected TMZ chase.

But it’s not all fun and fashion—JVN also opens up about their look and the online backlash that followed, the trolls in the comment section, and why this moment felt different. This episode is giving: visibility, resilience, and reclamation of joy.

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GLP-1 medications are everywhere—on your FYPs, on the evening news, and, as JVN shares, in your own weekly routine. But what do these drugs really do? In this no-holds-barred conversation with Dr. Terry Simpson, a surgeon and culinary medicine expert, JVN dives deep into the science, the side effects, and the cultural firestorm surrounding GLP-1s like Ozempic. Are they the future of weight loss and metabolic health—or just another wellness trend?

Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions about eating disorders, body image, and weight loss medications. Please listen with care.

Dr. Terry Simpson, MD is a physician, research scientist, weight loss surgeon, cook, author, dad, and a proponent for healthy eating. "And not in that order.” He received his undergraduate, graduate, and medical degrees from The University of Chicago.

When he became a fellow of the American College of Surgeons he was the 22nd Native American to become a surgeon and the first Alaska Native to become one. He was the first surgeon to be certified in the field of Culinary Medicine - which means not only is he up to date with the latest nutrition research but he can cook too! When not in clinic, you’ll find him on social media with more than 1 million followers, battling medical misinformation, inspiring healthy habits.

You can find Dr. Terry Simpson on Instagram @drterrysimpsonmd and TikTok @drterrrysimpson

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New year, new realizations! We are so back to kick off 2025 with a deep dive into  joy reclamation, breaking free from negative feedback loops, and embracing joy without guilt. Plus! JVN spills the tea on the look they’re wearing to their first ever Golden Globes gig (Christian Siriano is involved, so you know it’s major), dishes on beauty holy grails you actually need in 2025, and answers listener questions submitted by you gorgeous curious people.

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Happy New Year, Curious People! It’s 2025! Kick off the New Year with a truly transformative conversation with Stephanie Harrison, founder of The New Happy! In this episode, we dive into what it means to leave behind “Old Happy”—the toxic pursuit of perfection, individualism, and relentless achievement—and embrace “New Happy,” a philosophy rooted in connection, self-compassion, and contributing to the world. JVN gets candid about navigating shame and embarrassment while Stephanie shares her expert insights on managing emotions, cultivating resilience, and finding joy in uncertain times. Together, they explore everything from the pitfalls of toxic positivity to how capitalism affects our collective well-being (spoiler: it’s a lot). Whether you’re looking to thrive in 2025, find your purpose or just feel a little less alone - we’ve got you covered for the year ahead!

Stephanie Harrison is an expert in the science of happiness and a writer, designer and speaker. Since receiving a master’s degree in positive psychology from the University of Pennsylvania, she has devoted her life to the study of well-being. Her company, The New Happy, has revolutionized the way that people understand and pursue happiness. Their artwork, newsletter, videos, podcast, and resources reach millions of people around the world every month. She is a Harvard Business Review and CNBC contributor and her expertise has been featured in publications such as Fast Company, Forbes, and Architectural Digest. She is a regular speaker at Fortune 500 companies and advises on employee well-being and company culture. She lives in California with her partner and their dog.

You can find Stephanie Harrison on Instagram and TikTok @stephaniehson

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Reporting to all you curious people from the liminal week between Christmas and New  Year’s —JVN and their iconic mom, Mary Oaks, are bringing us a festive kiki straight from Austin, Texas! Recorded mid-Christmas revelry, this episode is brimming with family vibes, advice for trusting your aesthetic instinct, and some mic drops about life in small town America. Whether you’re here for the holiday glow or a little aesthetic inspo - this dynamic mother-child duo is serving, darling.

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