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  • 52 minutes 12 seconds
    The Living Legacy of Norman Podhoretz w/ David Klion and Ronnie Grinberg | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer

    Norman Podhoretz, one of the founding fathers of neoconservatism, died on December 16 at

    age 95. His legacy is a complex one, since in recent decades neoconservatism has been

    supplanted in many ways by American First conservatism. But many aspects of Podhoretz’s

    influence still play a shaping role on right. I take up Podhoretz’s career with David Klion (who

    wrote an obituary for the pundit for The Nation) and the historian Ronnie Grinberg, who had

    discussed Podhoretz in her book Write Like a Man.



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    22 December 2025, 1:00 pm
  • 47 minutes 44 seconds
    Thailand–Cambodia Fighting, Venezuela Escalation, Yemen Separatists | American Prestige

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    Jolly Saint Nick is giving the U.S. government lots of coal this year, a boon to fossil fuel companies. In this week’s news: Thailand–Cambodia fighting resumes despite Trump’s ceasefire claim (1:52); an Israeli airstrike in Gaza threatens what remains of the ceasefire (6:00), and a winter storm devastates Gaza as Israel continues blocking shelter materials and aid (9:10); Yemen’s Southern Transitional Council prepares to declare a new government amid Saudi threats (12:08); the U.S. approves the largest-ever arms package to Taiwan (16:10); China reportedly unveils a prototype advanced chipmaking tool (18:18); the Bondi Beach attack in Australia has possible Islamic State links (19:48); a New America Foundation report documents extensive U.S. airstrikes in Somalia (22:01); M23 announces its withdrawal from Uvira in eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo (24:49); Ukraine peace talks continue as the war nears its fourth year, including disputes over Kupiansk (27:59); Chile elects far-right president José Antonio Kast (32:23); the U.S. escalates pressure on Venezuela with military deployments and a partial oil blockade (33:27); and Congress passes a $901 billion National Defense Authorization Act, including a repeal of Syria’s Caesar Act and changes to Selective Service registration (41:40).

    Listen to our special with Annelle Sheline on what’s going on in Yemen.

    Don’t forget to listen to our Chinese Prestige miniseries.



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    19 December 2025, 2:12 pm
  • 59 minutes 23 seconds
    How Effective is Australia’s Social Media Age Limit? w/ Cam Wilson | Tech Won't Save Us

    Paris Marx is joined by Cam Wilson to discuss the new social media age limit in Australia, including how successful the rollout has been so far and the missed opportunities of taking a more nuanced regulatory approach.

    Cam Wilson is an associate editor at ⁠Crikey⁠ and writes ⁠The Sizzle⁠ newsletter. He’s a co-author of Conspiracy Nation: Exposing the Dangerous World of Australian Conspiracy Theories.



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    18 December 2025, 2:14 pm
  • 33 minutes
    What Explains Epstein’s Friends? Plus, Crossword Politics | Start Making Sense

    Ths coming Friday is the deadline for the Justice Department to turn over the Epstein files to Congress. But we already know the key fact about Epstein’s famous friends--they didn’t care that he had hired a 14-year-old girl for sex—and gone to jail for it. But why was that? Katha Pollitt comments.

    Also: the hidden politics of the New York Times crossword puzzle: Natan Last explains; his new book is Across the Universe: the Past, Present, and Future of the Crossword Puzzle.



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    17 December 2025, 9:00 am
  • 1 hour 9 minutes
    Trump’s National Security Strategy w/ Julia Gledhill and Van Jackson | American Prestige

    Danny and Derek welcome to the show Julia Gledhill and Van Jackson, co-hosts of the Un-Diplomatic podcast, to talk about the Trump administration’s newly released National Security Strategy. They discuss how the document leans on civilizational framing, portrays competition as existential conflict, omits diplomacy and institutions in favor of coercion and deal-making, and deemphasizes democracy promotion. They also touch on the strategy’s treatment of Europe and Latin America, its assumptions about American power, and what the new NSS suggests about the direction of U.S. foreign policy.



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    16 December 2025, 3:13 pm
  • 30 minutes 7 seconds
    The Transformation of the New York Waterfront w/ Karrie Jacobs | The Nation Podcast

    In its heyday, the Bush Terminal industrial complex spanned several city blocks along Brooklyn’s waterfront and employed more than 35,000 people. Built by Irving Bush in the late nineteenth century, it was an "early intermodal shipping hub." Goods arrived by water and left by rail. Bananas, coffee, and cotton came in through doors on one side of the warehouses and were loaded onto trains on the other.

    But after World War II, as trucks replaced rail and shipping patterns changed, the Terminal’s purpose faded and the vast complex slipped into disuse.

    Today, Bush Terminal is again at the center of New York’s vision for urban reinvention— and a debate around development, displacement, and the future of work in the city.

    Joining us on a deep dive into Bush Terminal is veteran architecture critic and writer Karrie Jacobs. Her essayOn the Waterfront,” appears in our December issue of the Nation.



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    15 December 2025, 11:00 am
  • 38 minutes 39 seconds
    Trump’s Global Culture War w/ Stephen Wertheim | The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer

    The Trump administration has released a new National Security Strategy that is a marked shift

    not only from earlier administrations but also Trump’s first term in office. While the new policy

    statement eschews the goal of global hegemony, it promotes culture war in Europe by

    promising support of anti-immigration political parties, economic rivalry in Asia with China, and

    a renewal of US military hegemony in the Western hemisphere. To survey this document and

    Trump’s often contradictory foreign policy, I spoke to frequent guest of the show Stephen

    Wertheim who is American Statecraft senior fellow, Carnegie Endowment for International

    Peace.



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    14 December 2025, 11:00 am
  • 42 minutes 45 seconds
    Gaza Aid Blocked Amid Winter Storm, Thailand–Cambodia Conflict Resumes, M23 Advances in DRC | American Prestige

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    Danny and Derek will sadly not be doing a CBS News town hall event. This week in the news: the Thailand–Cambodia conflict resumes (1:47); the DRC–M23 conflict also resumes as M23 makes new advances (7:05); in Gaza, questions remain over the “second phase” of the ceasefire as a winter storm hits (10:38); separatists in Yemen gain control of the country’s south (17:18); the RSF takes Sudan’s largest oilfield (21:02); an attempted coup is foiled in Benin (23:31); Trump gives NATO a 2027 ultimatum on defense spending (26:05); Ukraine responds to the U.S. peace plan while Trump expresses frustration (29:46); controversy erupts in Honduras over election ballot-counting snafus (35:56); and in these great United States, Congress removes “right to repair” from the NDAA after contractors lobby against it (38:53).

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    12 December 2025, 3:20 pm
  • 59 minutes 11 seconds
    Europe’s Subservience to the United States w/ Ben Wray | Tech Won’t Save Us

    Paris Marx is joined by Ben Wray to discuss Europe’s capitulation to pressure from the United States on Nexperia, as well as on digital protections and labor rights that could have big implications for the future of work.

    Ben Wray is a researcher specializing in the platform economy. He writes the Gig Economy Project newsletter and his most recent report for the ETUC is called Uberisation.



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    11 December 2025, 9:00 am
  • 43 minutes
    Republicans and Obamacare, Again; plus Early, Early Bob Dylan / Start Making Sense

    Republicans are about to end Obamcare subsidies, driving up premiums for 20 million people during the year of the midterm elections. How have they managed to end up after all these years with no health insurance plan of their own? John Nichols comments.

    Also: Bob Dylan’s earliest recordings have just been released—the first is from 1956 when he was 15 years old—on the 8-CD set ‘Through the Open Window: The Bootleg Series vol. 18” – which ends in 1963, with his historic performance at Carnegie Hall. Sean Wilentz explains – he wrote the 120 page book that accompanies the release. 



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    10 December 2025, 3:37 pm
  • 1 hour 20 minutes
    Sudan’s Endless War in Darfur and Beyond w/ Mat Nashed | American Prestige

    Derek and journalist Mat Nashed assess the state of Sudan’s ongoing civil war, particularly the fall of Al-Fasher and the Rapid Support Forces’ consolidation of control across much of Darfur. They discuss the throughline from the 2003 genocide to today; the wider humanitarian catastrophe; the shifting battlefield in Kordofan; the growing role of drones; the RSF’s political gambits; the international dimension of the war, including the UAE’s backing of the RSF and the Sudanese army’s search for external patrons; and they examine why accountability remains elusive as Sudan’s rival powers continue a war that hurts civilians above all else.

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    Read Abdel Fattah al-Burhan’s WSJ opinion piece.



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    9 December 2025, 9:00 am
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