In this Episode Greg and Scott explore the concept of resiliency through both human behavior and regenerative farming systems. Scott Murray shares practical strategies for adapting to stress, uncertainty, and environmental challenges while building stronger personal and agricultural systems. The conversation connects biological resilience, seen in ecosystems and farms, to everyday preparedness, food security, and mindset. Listeners walk away with six actionable ways to improve resilience in their homes, gardens, and lives.

Our Guest: Scott Murray has over 50 years of experience in organic agriculture across the U.S. and Mexico and has served as a California conservation official for 33 years. He specializes in farm creation, farmland preservation, and regenerative polyculture systems. Scott now leads pioneering research and consulting on California-grown coffee, managing multi-variety trials and agroforestry-based plantations.

Key Topics

• Resiliency (human and ecological definitions)
• Carrying capacity in biological systems
• Regenerative farming principles
• Polyculture vs monoculture systems
• Water management and irrigation strategies
• Soil health and biological farming
• Organic vs chemical agriculture debate
• Food security and home food production
• Cut-and-come-again gardening method
• Emergency preparedness (food, water, go-bags)
• Decentralized food systems and local resilience
• Mindset and mental preparedness

What is resiliency and how does it apply to daily life?

Resiliency is the ability to adapt and recover from stress, adversity, or disruption. Like a rubber band returning to its original shape, humans can build emotional, mental, and behavioral flexibility to regain balance after challenges.

How does resiliency show up in farming systems?

In agriculture, resiliency comes from designing balanced ecosystems with diversity, proper water management, and healthy soil biology. Farms that mimic natural systems are better able to withstand environmental and economic shocks.

Why is polyculture more resilient than monoculture?

Polyculture systems grow multiple crops together, creating layered ecosystems that reduce risk, improve soil health, and increase productivity. If one crop fails, others can still thrive, ensuring more stable yields.

Can organic systems produce enough food?

Yes. The belief that organic farming cannot feed the world is a misconception. With proper design and soil management, organic systems can be highly productive and sustainable.

What is “cut and come again” gardening?

It’s a harvesting method where you remove outer leaves from plants like lettuce, kale, or chard, allowing them to regrow and produce continuously over months instead of a single harvest.

How can families increase food resilience at home?

By growing even a small portion of their food, storing shelf-stable items, and building relationships with neighbors or local growers, families can buffer against disruptions in the food system.

Why is water management critical for resilient farming?

Efficient irrigation—such as shorter, more frequent watering—prevents waste, improves plant health, and reduces stress on crops, especially in drought-prone regions.

What role does mindset play in resilience?

Mental preparedness is foundational. When individuals are prepared and confident, they respond to crises with clarity rather than panic, enabling better decision-making.

Episode Highlights

• Resiliency is like a rubber band—stretch, recover, return to balance
• Farms of the future rely on biodiversity and natural systems
• Overwatering and poor design can silently destroy farm productivity
• Cutting water use in half can actually improve plant health
• One ounce of wheat seed can yield a five-gallon bucket of grain
• “Cut and come again” gardening extends harvests for months
• Food is more valuable than gold in times of crisis
• Preparedness reduces stress and increases adaptability

Resources

Urban Farm Podcast - https://www.urbanfarm.org

Edge of Urban Farm - http://edgeofurbanfarm.com

John Jeavons Urban Farm Podcast Episodes

1. https://www.urbanfarm.org/2019/02/16/423-john-jeavons/
2. https://www.urbanfarm.org/2019/02/19/424-john-jeavons/

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A new way of looking at climate solutions with Anthony Myint

In this Episode Anthony Myint shares his journey from pioneering pop-up restaurants to leading a climate-focused nonprofit transforming agriculture. He explains why consumer choice alone doesn’t change farming systems and introduces a new model: funding regenerative agriculture directly through small, scalable contributions. Through Zero Foodprint, businesses and individuals can help finance on-the-ground practices like compost application and cover cropping. The conversation reframes “farm-to-table” into “table-to-farm,” emphasizing collective action to restore soil and climate.

Our Guest: Anthony Myint is the executive director of Zero FoodPrint, a nonprofit named one of the most innovative companies in the world by Fast Company. Zero FoodPrint leads, collaborations with state agencies, local governments, and hundreds of businesses to implement impactful and validated regenerative agriculture projects. The organization has awarded over $8 million to 600 plus farm projects

Key Topics & Entities

• Zero Foodprint nonprofit model
• Regenerative agriculture practices
• Table-to-farm vs. farm-to-table
• Restaurant industry innovation (pop-ups, Mission Chinese Food)
• Climate-beneficial agriculture
• Compost application and soil carbon sequestration
• Cover crops and reduced soil disturbance
• Grant funding for farmers (up to $25,000)
• Carbon measurement and cost-effectiveness modeling
• Public-private partnerships (state, local, conservation groups)
• Consumer participation through 1% contributions
• Collective regeneration concept
• Limitations of organic market growth (1% of U.S. farmland)
• Economic barriers for farmers transitioning practices

Key Questions Answered

What is regenerative agriculture?

A system focused on improving land management through practices like compost use, cover cropping, reduced tillage, and integrating livestock, working with nature to restore soil health and sequester carbon.

Why don’t better consumer choices alone change farming?

Because farmers operate within tight financial systems driven by loans and input costs. Paying slightly more for products doesn’t provide enough capital or reduce risk for farmers to transition practices.

What is Zero Foodprint’s solution?

A funding model where businesses and consumers contribute small amounts (often 1% of sales), which are pooled and distributed as grants to farmers implementing regenerative practices.

How does the funding reach farmers?

Farmers submit simple grant requests for specific practices. Funds are allocated based on cost-effectiveness (e.g., cost per ton of carbon sequestered) and verified by local experts.

What does “table-to-farm” mean?

Instead of just sourcing from good farms, it means sending money back to farms to actively support the transition to regenerative practices across the entire system.

How can individuals participate?

By dining at participating businesses, contributing monthly donations, or supporting campaigns that direct funds to regenerative agriculture projects.

What impact has the model achieved so far?

Over $8 million has been awarded to 600+ farm projects, funding real changes like compost application and cover cropping at scale.

What is the biggest barrier to adoption?

Even small contributions (like a penny or 1%) are still a new concept, and businesses and consumers are not yet accustomed to paying directly for climate solutions.

Episode Highlights

• Anthony’s early career helped pioneer the pop-up restaurant movement, leading to Mission Chinese Food.
• A turning point came after realizing organic farming still represents only ~1% of U.S. farmland after decades.
• The failure of “vote with your dollar” thinking led to a new model focused on direct funding.
• Zero Foodprint enables consumers to participate passively—just by eating at certain restaurants.
• One restaurant group generated $650,000 for farm projects through a 1% contribution model.
• A single music tour commitment created $300,000 for regenerative agriculture.
• Grants are simple and accessible, taking farmers just 15–20 minutes to apply.
• The long-term vision mirrors recycling and renewable energy programs—small fees funding systemic change.

Resources

Resource — Zero Foodprint Website

Donate — Support Regenerative Agriculture

Apply (Farmers) — https://www.zerofoodprint.org/apply

Visit www.urbanfarm.org/ZeroFoodPrint for the show notes on this episode, and access to our full podcast library!

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A Rosie On The House Replay

In this episode explores the foundation of successful gardening: healthy soil. Farmer Greg is joined by Shota Austin from Tank’s Green Stuff to discuss composting, soil biology, and how gardeners in dry climates can transform lifeless dirt into thriving soil ecosystems. They explain how compost introduces life into depleted soils, why organic practices support soil microbiology, and how mulch, compost, and planting mixes work together to build resilient garden beds. The conversation also highlights practical strategies for gardeners, including dechlorinating water, choosing soil inputs wisely, and avoiding common soil-building mistakes.

Shota Austin is with Tanks Green Stuff in Tucson AZ. Shota has been in the agriculture industry for the last two decades. Working with livestock, goats, sheep, cattle, chickens, cotton, alfalfa, nursery crops, orchards and vegetable production. As a former U of A Compost Cat, Shota has been working with compost since 2013 and now works as sales and marketing director for Tanks Green Stuff, where he oversees all aspects of the business, including production quality control. Product development, sales, marketing, social media, and customer service. Shota is also a founding member of the newly formed Arizona Compost Council.

Key Topics & Entities

1. Tank’s Green Stuff
2. Arizona Compost Council
3. Compost and soil microbiology
4. Desert soil and low organic matter
5. Organic fertilizers vs chemical fertilizers
6. NPK (Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium)
7. Mulch and soil moisture retention
8. Raised bed soil mixes
9. Coco coir as a peat moss alternative
10. Dechlorinating municipal water
11. Soil biology and plant health
12. Organic compost production from landscape waste
13. Manure risks in garden beds
14. Local soil products for arid climates

Key Questions Answered

Why is compost so critical to soil health?

Compost introduces organic matter, beneficial microbes, and nutrients into soil. In many desert environments, soil contains little organic material—often less than 1%. Compost transforms inert dirt into living soil by supporting microbial life that cycles nutrients and improves structure, water retention, and plant resilience.

What is the difference between dirt and soil?

Dirt is largely inert mineral material like sand, silt, clay, and rock fragments. Soil is a living ecosystem made up of minerals, organic matter, microorganisms, water, and air. When organic matter and biology are added to dirt, it becomes functional soil capable of supporting plant life.

What role does soil microbiology play in plant health?

Soil microbes act as the delivery system for plant nutrition. They break down organic matter, release nutrients, defend plants from pathogens, and create the soil structure plants rely on. When gardeners feed the soil microbiology rather than the plant directly, plants thrive naturally.

What do the three fertilizer numbers (NPK) mean?

The three numbers on fertilizer labels represent nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium. Nitrogen promotes leafy growth and green foliage. Phosphorus supports flower and fruit development. Potassium strengthens root systems and overall plant resilience. These nutrients work best when supported by micronutrients, trace minerals, and active soil biology.

Why can chemical fertilizers harm soil biology?

Many synthetic fertilizers and pesticides reduce beneficial microbial populations. While they may provide short-term plant growth, they disrupt the biological systems that naturally feed and protect plants. Organic fertilizers support soil organisms instead of suppressing them.

How can gardeners remove chlorine from municipal water before watering plants?

Chlorine can harm beneficial microbes in soil. One simple method is letting water sit in an open container so the chlorine dissipates. Another option is installing a whole-house charcoal filtration system that removes chlorine before the water reaches garden soil.

What is the difference between compost, planting mix, and mulch?

Compost is decomposed organic matter used as a soil amendment. Planting mix blends compost with materials like coco coir and perlite to improve aeration, drainage, and moisture retention. Mulch is any material placed on top of soil to protect it, retain moisture, and gradually build organic matter as it decomposes.

What ingredients create a high-quality planting mix?

A strong planting mix typically includes compost for nutrients and microbial life, coco coir for moisture retention, aeration materials like perlite or pumice, a small amount of native soil for mineral content, and organic fertilizers for additional nutrients.

Why is mulch essential for building soil in dry climates?

Mulch protects soil from heat, reduces evaporation, and feeds soil organisms as it breaks down. In hot climates, thick mulch layers can reduce surface temperatures and improve soil moisture retention while gradually building organic matter.

What materials should gardeners avoid putting in their soil?

Gardeners should avoid chemical fertilizers, peat moss harvested unsustainably, screened fill dirt, and unverified manure sources. Non-organic straw or hay may also introduce herbicides or weed seeds that damage gardens.

Episode Highlights

1. Compost adds life to soils that may contain less than 1% organic matter.
2. Healthy soil is built from three main components: mineral particles, organic matter, and living organisms.
3. Soil microbes function like delivery systems, transporting nutrients from soil to plant roots.
4. Thick mulch layers can reduce landscape temperatures by as much as 15–20°F.
5. Coco coir from coconut husks provides a sustainable alternative to peat moss and lasts longer in soil.
6. Organic fertilizers supply nutrients along with micronutrients and trace minerals that synthetic fertilizers often lack.
7. Letting water sit in a bucket allows chlorine to dissipate before watering plants.
8. Locally produced soil products are often better suited for regional climate and sustainability.

Resources

Tank’s Green Stuff — https://tanksgreenstuff.com

Urban Farm Tree Planting Mix — Available through Urban Farm pop-up events - Store.urbanfarm.org

Visit www.UrbanFarm.org/973 for the show notes and links on this episode!

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A Seed Chat with Bill McDorman

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In This Podcast: Greg Peterson and Bill McDorman explore why building a local seed economy is essential for resilient food systems. They share the origin story of the Great American Seed Up, how communities can distribute seeds affordably, and why seed diversity matters in the face of climate change and fragile global supply chains. The discussion highlights grassroots strategies—from seed libraries to neighborhood seed events—that empower communities to grow their own food. They also dive into the science of epigenetics and local adaptation, explaining why saving seeds from your own garden improves future crops.

Key Topics & Entities

1. Local seed economies
2. The Great American Seed Up
3. Seed Up in a Box
4. Community seed distribution models
5. Seed libraries and the Seed Library Network
6. LocalSeeds.org
7. Regional seed companies and seed exchanges
8. Climate change and food system resilience
9. Seed saving and landrace gardening
10. Epigenetics and plant adaptation
11. Joseph Lofthouse’s Landrace Gardening
12. Barbara McClintock and epigenetics research
13. Community gardening and food security
14. Cowpeas and volunteer plants

Key Questions Answered

What is a local seed economy and why does it matter?

A local seed economy means seeds are produced, saved, and shared within a region. This strengthens food resilience because local varieties adapt to local conditions and communities are not dependent on global supply chains.

Why isn’t storing seeds in one “seed bank” enough?

A centralized seed bank doesn’t build resilience. The real solution is thousands of people growing and saving seeds. When many gardeners are involved, knowledge spreads and communities collectively maintain crop diversity.

How did the Great American Seed Up begin?

The idea emerged from a conversation about getting seeds into as many homes as possible. Inspired by a community seed distribution organized by a church group in Idaho, Greg Peterson created a large event where gardeners scoop bulk seeds into their own packets—dramatically lowering costs and increasing access.

How can communities distribute seeds affordably?

Buying seeds in bulk eliminates most packaging costs. At seed events, participants scoop seeds from bowls into small bags, often receiving 3–10× the amount found in retail packets for less money.

What is Seed Up in a Box?

Seed Up in a Box is a packaged kit that enables small groups to run their own mini seed distribution events, making it easy for neighborhoods, libraries, and community groups to share seeds locally.

Why are seed libraries important?

Seed libraries allow gardeners to borrow seeds, grow them, save new seeds, and return them to the community. This builds regional adaptation and spreads genetic diversity.

What role does epigenetics play in seed saving?

Plants can adapt to environmental stresses like heat or drought within a single generation. Through epigenetics, those adaptive traits can be passed to the next generation, meaning seeds saved from resilient plants become better suited to local conditions.

Why do volunteer plants often grow better?

Volunteer plants come from seeds already adapted to the local environment. Over several seasons, natural selection and epigenetic responses help them become more resilient.

Episode Highlights

1. A single church community in Idaho organized a bulk seed distribution so hundreds of families could access seeds cheaply.
2. The Great American Seed Up events allow hundreds of gardeners to scoop bulk seeds into their own packets.
3. Eliminating packaging reveals that many seed packets contain only about 13 cents worth of seeds.
4. During COVID, the Seed Up concept evolved into Seed Up in a Box so small groups could run their own seed distribution events.
5. Seed libraries and local seed exchanges are growing worldwide as grassroots solutions for food resilience.
6. Volunteer plants and locally saved seeds often outperform commercial varieties because they adapt to specific climates.
7. Epigenetics shows plants can quickly adjust to stress and pass those adaptations to future generations.
8. Even a few plants can produce abundant food—three volunteer cowpea plants produced three pounds of beans.

Resources

Attend Seed Chat Live

Seed Chat — https://seedchat.org

Urban Farm Podcast

Podcast episodes and archives — https://urbanfarmpodcast.com

Seed Up in a Box

Community seed distribution kits — https://seedupinabox.com

Seed Library Movement

Seed Library Network — https://seedlibrarynetwork.org

Regional Seed Sources

Local Seeds directory — https://localseeds.org

Seed Community Resources

Going to Seed — https://goingtoseed.org

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Subtitle

In this Episode Christy Wilhelmy, founder of Garden Nerd and author of multiple gardening books, returns to discuss her upcoming novel Bolting to Seed. The book is the sequel to her debut garden novel Garden Variety and blends gardening education with a cozy mystery storyline set in a community garden. Christy shares how real-life community garden experiences inspired her fiction, how she structures a mystery novel, and why she chose to independently publish the sequel through Kickstarter. Along the way, she highlights how storytelling can inspire people to start gardening, even if they’ve never grown food before.

Our Guest: Christy is the founder of Garden Nerd, the ultimate resource for garden nerds, where she publishes newsletters, her popular blog. Top ranked podcast and YouTube videos. She also specializes in small space, organic vegetable garden design, consulting, and classes. Between 50 and 70% of her family's produce comes from her garden of less than 300 square feet. She is the author of High Yield Small Space Organic Gardening, 400 plus Tips for Organic Gardening Success, Grow Your Own Mini Fruit Garden and her debut novel Garden variety.

Key Topics

1. Christy Wilhelmy
2. Garden Nerd
3. Bolting to Seed novel
4. Garden Variety novel
5. Community gardens as storytelling inspiration
6. Independent publishing and Kickstarter campaigns
7. Cozy mystery genre
8. Gardening education embedded in fiction
9. Small space organic vegetable gardening
10. Scrivener writing software
11. Thrips damage on citrus and nectarines
12. Beneficial insects and insectary plants
13. Lacewings and minute pirate bugs
14. Biological pest control in gardens

Key Questions Answered

How did Christy Wilhelmy move from gardening books into writing fiction?

Christy spent more than 27 years gardening in a community garden and realized the setting was full of unique personalities and stories. She began collecting ideas over time and eventually turned those experiences into her debut novel Garden Variety, a rom-com set in a Los Angeles community garden.

What is the new novel Bolting to Seed about?

The sequel takes place a year after Garden Variety and focuses on late spring and summer in the same community garden. The story blends gardening lessons with a cozy mystery: a murder occurs, and the characters must solve the case while navigating community garden life.

Why did Christy decide to self-publish the new book?

After her agent shopped the manuscript to traditional publishers for nearly a year, she learned that publishers were hesitant to buy sequels unless the first book was a major bestseller. Rather than wait indefinitely, she chose independent publishing to maintain creative control and move the project forward.

How does Christy structure a mystery novel?

She approaches writing as a “planner.” She outlines the story in advance, maps out character arcs, and lists key scenes that must happen to move the plot forward. Using Scrivener, she writes scenes separately and rearranges them until the structure works, filling in gaps and transitions as the story develops.

How are gardening lessons included in the novel?

Christy intentionally makes a list of gardening topics she wants to teach—usually around ten lessons—and integrates them naturally into the storyline. At the end of the book, readers will also find a growing guide summarizing the key gardening takeaways.

What is the Kickstarter campaign supporting?

The Kickstarter helps cover the expenses of independent publishing, including editing, cover design, layout, printing, and marketing. Supporters can pledge at different levels to receive rewards like signed books, custom seed packets, tote bags, virtual launch party tickets, and even cameo appearances in future novels.

How can beneficial insects help manage thrips damage?

Thrips can scar citrus and other fruit during the flowering stage. Encouraging beneficial insects like lacewings and minute pirate bugs through insectary plantings can help control thrips populations naturally.

Episode Highlights

1. Christy shares how decades in a community garden inspired her first novel.
2. Bolting to Seed shifts genres from romantic comedy to a cozy mystery.
3. The sequel introduces new characters and a detective investigating a garden-related murder.
4. Readers can learn gardening techniques while following the story.
5. Christy explains the difference between “planner” and “pantser” writing styles.
6. Independent publishing allows her to design the book exactly how she wants.
7. The Kickstarter campaign includes creative rewards such as appearing in a future novel.
8. Beneficial insect habitats can naturally manage pests like thrips.

Resources

1. Garden Nerd — https://gardennerd.com
2. Kickstarter campaign for Bolting to Seed — https://gardennerd.com
3. Podcast show notes — https://urbanfarm.org/BoltingTwoSeed

Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?

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Subtitle

In this Episode Enoch Graham shares practical strategies for growing abundant food in small urban spaces. Drawing on 15 years of gardening in the Rogue Valley of Southern Oregon, Enoch explains how to maximize production in patios, rooftops, and compact yards. He outlines his Nine Keys to Small Space Gardening, covering water systems, sunlight management, container growing, vertical gardening, soil health, and creative use of limited space. The conversation also explores soil biology, organic practices, and why patience, especially during the first year, is essential for long-term garden success.

Our Guest: Enoch Graham is the host of the weekend Gardening Talk YouTube show 'Let's Get Growing'. He has interviewed hundreds of the world's top gardening communicators and shares his small space gardening practices on his YouTube channel, the Urban Gardener. He has been growing his urban food garden for 15 years in Southern Oregon's Rogue Valley, utilizing many different spaces from a cemented back patio and to a carport rooftop to grow peppers. He has learned a lot over the years and truly loves sharing his experience with other passionate growers in the gardening community.

Key Topics

1. Enoch Graham
2. Small space urban gardening
3. Container gardening
4. Drip irrigation and drip tape
5. Rainwater capture and alternative water sources
6. Sunlight management in urban environments
7. Vertical gardening and trellising
8. Layered planting systems
9. Soil health and organic soil building
10. Compost and organic matter
11. Biochar in soil mixes
12. OMRI-certified organic soil products
13. No-till container gardening
14. Rogue Valley, Southern Oregon

Questions Answered

What are the most important factors for growing food in small urban spaces?

Enoch outlines nine key principles that guide successful small-space gardening: reliable water access, adequate sunlight, containers, vertical growing, layered planting, soil management, and creative use of available spaces.

How can urban gardeners secure a reliable water supply?

Gardeners should start by identifying nearby water sources such as hose spigots, rain barrels, gray water systems, condensation capture, or stormwater runoff. Consistent watering is essential, especially in container gardens where soil dries quickly.

What irrigation methods work best for small gardens?

Hand watering allows gardeners to observe plant health closely. However, automated drip irrigation systems or drip tape with timers are helpful when gardeners are away or during hot summer months.

How do buildings and urban structures affect sunlight?

Walls, fences, and tall buildings can create heavy shade. Gardeners should observe how sunlight moves through the space during the day and select shade-tolerant crops when necessary.

Why are containers essential in urban gardens?

Containers allow gardening on patios, rooftops, and paved surfaces. Larger containers—typically five gallons or more—help maintain moisture and support stronger plant growth compared to smaller pots.

How can vertical growing increase productivity?

Trellising vining crops like tomatoes, peas, beans, cucumbers, and even melons allows gardeners to grow upward instead of outward, maximizing limited square footage.

What does layering mean in a garden system?

Layering involves growing plants at different heights—similar to a food forest—so taller plants capture sunlight above while shade-tolerant plants grow beneath them.

Why is soil management especially important in container gardening?

Container soil must provide structure, drainage, nutrients, and living biology. Good mixes often include compost, coco coir, vermiculite or perlite, and organic amendments.

Why might a container garden struggle in its first year?

New soil takes time to develop microbial life and balance. Gardeners should expect improvement in subsequent seasons as soil biology develops.

How can gardeners maintain healthy container soil long-term?

Instead of replacing soil each year, gardeners can treat containers like no-till systems by simply adding compost annually to replenish organic matter and nutrients.

Episode Highlights

1. Successful small-space gardening starts with reliable water access and consistent irrigation.
2. Urban shade patterns require careful observation before choosing crops.
3. Five-gallon containers or larger help stabilize moisture and support plant growth.
4. Vertical trellising dramatically increases yield per square foot.
5. Layering plants mimics natural ecosystems and maximizes sunlight use.
6. Healthy soil contains dirt, air space, water, organic matter, and living organisms.
7. OMRI-certified products help maintain organic growing practices.
8. Container soil improves over time as microbial life develops and compost is added annually.

Calls to Action & Resources

Drip Tape Class — Learn irrigation techniques taught each March by Urban Farm

Urban Gardener YouTube Channel — Enoch Graham shares small-space gardening practices - https://www.youtube.com/@theUrbanGardener

OMRI Organic Certification — https://www.omri.org

Visit www.urbanfarm.org/TreasureYourGarden for the show notes on this episode, and access to our full podcast library!

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*Disclosure: Some of the links in our podcast show notes and blog posts are affiliate links and if you go through them to make a purchase, we will earn a nominal commission at no cost to you. We offer links to items recommended by our podcast guests and guest writers as a service to our audience and these items are not selected because of the commission we receive from your purchases. We know the decision is yours, and whether you decide to buy something is completely up to you.

With Shannan Perciballi A Rosie On The House Replay

This episode explores Arizona’s local food community through a conversation with Shannon Perciballi, publisher and editor of Edible Phoenix. Shannon shares the story behind the magazine’s evolution, her transition from a 35-year restaurant career into publishing, and why “slow media” matters. The discussion highlights mesquite as an underrated desert food, the importance of supporting local restaurants and farmers, and how storytelling strengthens resilient regional food systems.

Shannan Perciballi is the publisher and editor of Edible Phoenix, a quarterly magazine celebrating Arizona’s local food culture. A longtime Phoenix resident, she brings decades of experience in restaurants, wine, and hospitality to her work. Perciballi holds an English degree from Arizona State University and advanced wine certifications, and is deeply involved in supporting farmers, artisans, and regional food systems through storytelling, community partnerships, and advocacy for resilient local economies.

Episode Highlights

• Shannon’s leap from restaurant executive to magazine publisher
• “We are never going to scoop a story—we are the slow story.”
• Mesquite flour and its sweet, caramel-like flavor in sourdough bread
• The power of seed swaps to spark food-growing conversations
• How summer restaurant slowdowns ripple through the local farm economy
• The tactile experience of holding a seasonal, intentionally crafted magazine

Key Topics

• Edible Phoenix
• Shannon Perceval
• Pamela Hamilton
• Slow media and quarterly publishing
• Arizona local food culture
• Mesquite as a desert superfood
• Local First Arizona
• Uptown Farmers Market
• North Phoenix Baptist Church
• Desert Botanical Garden
• Seed swaps and community events
• Supporting independent restaurants and farmers
• Culinary education through Careers through Culinary Arts Program

What is Edible Phoenix and why does it exist?

Edible Phoenix is a quarterly magazine celebrating Arizona’s local food culture. It tells the “slow stories” of farmers, ranchers, bakers, gardeners, and artisans whose work often goes unnoticed in mainstream media. Its mission is to strengthen community through storytelling and support resilient local economies.

How did Shannon Perceval become the publisher?

After a 35-year career in Arizona’s restaurant and hospitality industry, Shannon purchased the magazine in 2023 when founder Pamela Hamilton retired. A longtime subscriber, she stepped into ownership to preserve and grow a publication she deeply valued.

What makes “slow media” different?

Unlike fast-breaking news, Edible Phoenix publishes quarterly and focuses on depth over speed. It explores how food is grown, prepared, and shared—embracing seasonality and intentional storytelling rather than headlines.

Why is mesquite important to Arizona’s food system?

Mesquite trees produce sweet, protein-rich pods that can be milled into flour. Despite being abundant in the desert, they’re often overlooked. Featuring local foragers and educators helps reintroduce this native, climate-adapted food into the regional diet.

Why is supporting local restaurants and farmers critical?

Local restaurants often source from local farms, creating a circular food economy. When independent restaurants struggle—especially during summer slowdowns—farmers and ranchers feel the impact. Spending locally keeps money circulating in the community and sustains family-owned businesses.

How can consumers discover truly local food businesses?

Visit farmers markets and ask vendors where their products are served. Farmers often supply independent restaurants directly. Markets like Uptown Farmers Market are hubs for discovering both producers and chefs committed to local sourcing.

What role do community events play?

Events like seed swaps, cookbook exchanges, and food festivals foster relationships and food literacy. Celebrations such as Devoured at Desert Botanical Garden and Local First Arizona’s Fall Festival connect eaters directly with growers, chefs, and artisans.

Resources

• Edible Phoenix — https://ediblephoenix.ediblecommunities.com
• Subscribe to the magazine — https://ediblephoenix.ediblecommunities.com/subscribe
• Uptown Farmers Market — https://uptownmarketaz.com
• Local First Arizona — https://localfirstaz.com
• Visit www.UrbanFarm.org/971 for the show notes and links on this episode!

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How to Revolutionize Local Food

In this Episode Dana Choquette, the Executive Director of the Western North Carolina Food Coalition, shares how a first-generation regenerative livestock farmer became a regional leader in local food system infrastructure. From backyard sheep during COVID to coordinating 12 food hubs and 9 food councils, Dana explains how small farms can transform local economies, reduce food insecurity, and strengthen community resilience. This episode explores food hubs, policy innovation, hunger relief, and why collaboration—not competition—is the future of regional food systems.

Our Guest:  Dana Choquette is the executive director of a 19 county community coalition that works to strengthen the local food system in western North Carolina. She mobilizes projects to help people in all corners of the food system from those experiencing hunger to those building viable small farms. All while building local food distribution infrastructure. She's a first generation regenerative livestock farmer, and particularly loves working with sheep and cattle.

Key Topics & Entities

• Western North Carolina Food Coalition (WNC Food Coalition)
• Dana Choquette’s transition from urban life to regenerative livestock farming
• Western North Carolina’s 19-county food system
• Food hubs as aggregation and distribution infrastructure
• WNC Food Hub Collaborative (12 independent hubs collaborating regionally)
• Grow Where You Live Policy (community gardens in high-density housing)
• Food councils (9 hyper-local councils across WNC)
• Community-based food pantries and 24/7 open-access pantries
• Manna FoodBank partnership
• Warehouse aggregation and distribution model
• Institutional food purchasing vs. national distributors
• Carbon footprint and local food sourcing
• Farmer viability and consistent market outlets
• Chris Smith’s book The Whole Okra

Key Questions Answered

How did Dana transition from urban living to farming and food systems leadership?

Dana had no farming experience until nearly age 30. After relocating from Colorado to Western North Carolina during COVID, she and her husband started with backyard sheep. What began as a trial experiment quickly evolved into expanded livestock, leased land, and a deep commitment to producing food for their community. That hands-on experience led her into food systems work and ultimately to leading the WNC Food Coalition.

What is a food coalition and how does it function regionally?

A food coalition coordinates local stakeholders across the food system—from hunger relief to farmer support to policy advocacy. In Western North Carolina, the coalition serves 19 counties through 9 hyper-local food councils, each responding to the specific needs of its community.

What is a food hub and why is it important?

Food hubs are brick-and-mortar aggregation and distribution centers that purchase food from local farmers and redistribute it to consumers, institutions, CSAs, retail outlets, and food pantries. They create consistent market outlets for farmers, reduce distribution gaps, and help keep food dollars circulating locally.

How do food hubs differ from national distributors?

National distributors aggregate global food at scale, often prioritizing cost efficiency. Food hubs prioritize local sourcing, fair farmer compensation, shorter supply chains, and lower carbon footprints. They also strengthen local economies and improve freshness and nutritional value.

How is the WNC region addressing hunger right now?

The coalition partners with Manna FoodBank and operates 24/7 open-access community pantries, direct home delivery, and snack bag programs for unhoused individuals. Their approach blends immediate relief with long-term systems change.

What is the Grow Where You Live Policy?

A proposed Asheville policy requiring new high-density housing developments to include at least 5,000 square feet of community growing space, along with long-term maintenance support.

What was the coalition’s biggest failure and lesson learned?

Early on, the organization tried to solve too many food system challenges at once. They narrowed their focus, strengthened core programs, and built capacity before expanding again.

What is the coalition’s biggest success?

Bringing 12 independent food hubs together into a collaborative network focused on regional impact rather than competition.

Episode Highlights

• Dana began farming with Craigslist sheep and YouTube tutorials during COVID.
• Western North Carolina’s terrain forces farmers to be scrappy and innovative.
• Food hubs offer consistent year-round markets for small farmers.
• The region supports 12 collaborating food hubs and 9 food councils.
• The coalition operates a central warehouse to aggregate donations and distribute food across multiple counties.
• 24/7 open-access pantries remove barriers to food access.
• Local food improves freshness, nutrition, and taste.
• Dana’s driving motivation: building a resilient food system for her daughter’s future.

Resources

Western North Carolina Food Coalition — https://www.wncfoodcoalition.org

Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/wncfoodcoalition

Become a Member — https://www.wncfoodcoalition.org (Join for as little as $1)

Show Notes — https://urbanfarm.org/WNCFoodCoalition

Book Recommendation — The Whole Okra by Chris Smith

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Honoring a soil building hero

In this rebroadcast of Episode 185, Greg honors the late Dr. Elaine Ingham, a global leader in soil biology and founder of Soil Food Web Inc. Dr. Ingham shares her journey from childhood microbiology lessons to groundbreaking research on the soil food web. The episode explores composting, soil biology, succession, and how restoring microbial life can regenerate ecosystems and dramatically increase yields.

Our Guest: Dr. Elaine Ingham is the Founder, President and Director of Research for Soil Foodweb Inc., a business that grew out of her Oregon State University research program. Behind her user-friendly approach to soil lies a wealth of knowledge gained from years of research into the organisms which make up the soil food web. Her goal is to translate this knowledge into actions that ensure a healthy food web that promotes plant growth and reduces reliance on inorganic chemicals. Elaine also offers a pioneering vision for sustainable farming, improving our current soils to a healthier state, without damaging any other ecosystem. In her spare time, Elaine publishes scientific papers, writes book chapters and gives talks at symposia around the world.

Key Topics

1. Elaine Ingham
2. Soil Food Web Inc
3. Oregon State University
4. Environmental Protection Agency
5. University of Georgia
6. Colorado State University
7. United Nations
8. Monsanto
9. Soil food web (bacteria, fungi, protozoa, nematodes, microarthropods)
10. Genetically engineered Klebsiella planticola
11. Biosafety protocol debate
12. Ecological succession and weeds
13. Composting (thermal, vermicomposting, static)
14. Soil microbiome and human health connection

Key Questions Answered

How did Dr. Elaine Ingham begin her journey into soil microbiology?

Introduced to microscopes at age six by her veterinarian father, she developed early scientific curiosity. After deciding against medical school, she pursued microbiology, earning graduate degrees at Colorado State University and building foundational methodologies for quantifying soil organisms.

What is the soil food web, and why does it matter?

The soil food web is the complex community of bacteria, fungi, protozoa, nematodes, and microarthropods that cycle nutrients, protect plants, and build soil structure. Without this biology, plants cannot thrive, and chemical dependency increases.

What happened in the EPA experiment involving genetically engineered bacteria?

Dr. Ingham and her graduate student tested a genetically engineered strain of Klebsiella planticola designed to produce alcohol from crop residues. In controlled soil experiments, the engineered bacteria killed all terrestrial plants by producing toxic alcohol concentrations at root zones.

Why was this discovery globally significant?

If released, the bacterium could have spread 10–11 miles per year, potentially eliminating terrestrial plant life. Dr. Ingham presented the findings at the United Nations, contributing to the approval of a biosafety protocol governing genetically engineered organisms.

Why did Dr. Ingham leave Oregon State University?

After presenting research that challenged biotechnology interests, including major corporate funders, her methodology was questioned. She ultimately left and founded Soil Food Web Inc. in 1996 to continue her work independently.

How can growers restore soil health?

By rebuilding biology through properly made compost containing diverse organic matter and maintaining aerobic conditions. Composting must be managed intentionally—monitoring temperature, oxygen, and ingredient diversity.

Why are weeds part of soil succession?

Weeds are early successional plants that establish when soil biology is degraded. As microbial diversity increases, ecosystems move toward more productive crops and perennials.

What is the connection between soil microbes and human health?

Beneficial microbes on plant surfaces originate in healthy soil and contribute to the human gut microbiome. Chemical inputs disrupt this protective biological layer.

Episode Highlights

1. Dr. Ingham’s childhood learning microbiology at age six.
2. Transition from marine microbiology to soil systems research.
3. First published documentation (1985) proving soil biology improves yields and suppresses disease.
4. The EPA microcosm experiment: engineered bacteria killed wheat seedlings in seven days.
5. Presentation at the United Nations biosafety meeting in Madrid.
6. Conflict with university funding tied to agricultural biotechnology.
7. Founding Soil Food Web Inc. to bring soil biology to growers.
8. Compost as the gateway to restoring microbial life.

Resources

Soil Food Web — https://www.soilfoodweb.com

Urban Farm Podcast — https://www.urbanfarm.org/podcast

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A Garden Chat with Don Titmus

In This Episode: Noel Ruiz shares his journey from urban Southern California to rural Southern Oregon, where he and his family run Homestead Culture. What began as a struggling backyard garden evolved into a life centered on permaculture, seed saving, perennial crops, and heart-centered homesteading. Noel explains grexes, seed diversity, and multi-generational thinking—while reflecting on failure, renewal, and cultivating culture from the inside out. This episode explores how growing seeds can also grow resilience, connection, and joy.

Our Guest: Noel is a gardener, homesteader, seed saver, lover of plants and a proud father. Together, he and his sweetheart offer homestead grown seeds of perennial vegetables, flowers, herbs in diverse mixes and grexes, through their family business Homestead Culture. Noel shares free resources and online education around seed saving through HomesteadCulture.com. He enjoys writing articles that explore changing culture, personal transformation, gardening and seeds all while blurring the lines between work and life, as he practices homesteading from the heart.

Key Topics

• Homestead Culture (family-run seed and education business)
• Permaculture design & soil regeneration
• WWOOF (Worldwide Opportunities on Organic Farms)
• Seed saving on a homestead scale
• Grex breeding & genetic diversity
• Landrace adaptation
• Perennial vegetables, herbs, and flowers
• Multi-generational thinking in homesteading
• Homesteading from the heart
• Cultural transformation through gardening
• Protecting fruit and nut trees from deer and rodents
• Landrace Gardening by Joseph Lofthouse
• One-Straw Revolution by Masanobu Fukuoka

Key Questions

What happens when your garden fails—and what can it teach you?

Noel’s first larger garden struggled due to depleted, scraped topsoil. A permaculture consultation revealed the real issue: soil health, not personal failure. That shift reframed his mindset and launched his journey into regenerative practices.

What is WWOOF, and how can it accelerate learning?

WWOOF (Worldwide Opportunities on Organic Farms) connects learners with farms and homesteads in exchange for room, board, and hands-on education. Noel spent two years immersed in diverse homesteads, gaining practical skills and mentorship.

What does “homestead culture” mean?

For Noel, “home” extends beyond a house to watershed and region. “Stead” means to stand firm. “Culture” means to cultivate. Together, it represents rooting deeply in place and tending life in ways that foster abundance, cooperation, and multi-generational resilience.

Why plant trees from seed instead of grafted stock?

While grafted trees fruit faster, seed-grown trees offer deep relationship and long-term legacy. Noel values the joy of growing plants from infancy and stewarding trees that may outlive him.

What is a grex—and why grow one?

A grex allows multiple varieties to cross-pollinate, saving seeds from diverse offspring. This increases adaptation, resilience, and joy in diversity. It’s both a practical breeding strategy and a celebration of natural cross-pollination.

What is the difference between a seed farmer and a seed producer?

Noel distinguishes himself as a homestead-scale seed producer, honoring full-time seed farmers who grow at commercial scale. His focus is small-batch perennial vegetables, flowers, herbs, and grexes.

How can personal failure become transformation?

After divorce and job loss, Noel entered a period of growth through volunteering and WWOOFing. The journey led to emotional maturity, reconnection with his former spouse, and the foundation of their current homesteading life together.

What book is essential for seed savers?

Landrace Gardening by Joseph Lofthouse reframed Noel’s approach to seed purity and adaptation. He sees it as required reading for both new and experienced seed savers.

Episode Highlights

• Noel’s first 300-square-foot garden sparked a lifelong passion.
• Soil failure became the gateway to permaculture.
• A paid farm job paid little—but delivered deep purpose.
• Two years of WWOOFing replaced career confusion with clarity.
• Homestead Culture emerged as a family-centered, heart-driven brand.
• Growing trees from seed is about relationship, not speed.
• Grexes increase resilience and garden-level adaptation.
• “We are all in it together”—multi-generational problems require multi-generational thinking.

Resources

• Homestead Culture — https://homesteadculture.com/
• 8 Freebies for Gardeners & Homesteaders — https://homesteadculture.com/freebies/
• Best Seed Saving Online Courses & Classes — https://homesteadculture.com/seed-saving-online-courses-classes/
• Seed Resources (Free Articles) — https://homesteadculture.com/seed-resources/
• Seed Catalog — https://homesteadculture.com/shop/
• Coupon Code (15% off seeds & courses for two weeks): URBANFARM
• Recommended Reading
• Landrace Gardening by Joseph Lofthouse
• One-Straw Revolution by Masanobu Fukuoka

Sponsors

• Homestead Culture — Family-grown perennial vegetable, flower, herb, and grex seeds, plus online seed-saving education.
• https://homesteadculture.com/

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In This Podcast: Gigi shares how permaculture extends far beyond gardening into communication, community resilience, and social systems change. From EcoVillage living and military service to composting toilets after Hurricane Helene, Gigi explores earth care, people care, and fair share as a lived philosophy. This conversation dives into resource-based economies, repair culture, and the power of collective action. It’s a joyful, grounded exploration of how permaculture shapes both land and relationships..

Our Guest:  Gigi White was introduced to permaculture and foraging in college at Ithaca, New York in 2007 while studying acting and living at the Eco Village Ithaca. Which launched the rocket ship of figuring out how we can begin to work together in groups to live sustainably. After serving as an officer in the US Air Force with a tour in Iraq, she became a lifelong student of connecting nature to people sustainable. And joyful living through Improvisational music and acting.

Key Topics & Entities

1. Permaculture principles: Earth Care, People Care, Fair Share
2. EcoVillage at Ithaca
3. United States Air Force service and sustainability
4. Animal, Vegetable, Miracle by Barbara Kingsolver
5. Transition Towns movement
6. The Humanure Handbook by Joseph Jenkins
7. Humanure and composting toilet systems
8. Hurricane Helene disaster response in Asheville
9. Tool libraries and repair cafés
10. Nonviolent Communication (NVC) in permaculture
11. Resource-based vs. capitalistic economies
12. Rocket mass heaters and appropriate technology
13. Grafting fruit trees and perennial agriculture

Key Questions Answered

What is permaculture beyond gardening?

Permaculture is a philosophy and design framework rooted in Earth Care, People Care, and Fair Share. It includes communication styles, economic systems, animal husbandry, energy design, and community-building—not just food production.

How can communities respond sustainably during disasters?

After Hurricane Helene disrupted water systems in Asheville, Gigi organized education sessions and materials for composting toilets. By mobilizing volunteers, sourcing buckets and sawdust, and partnering with a local tool library, she helped residents create safe, low-resource sanitation systems.

What is humanure and why does it matter?

Humanure is composted human waste managed safely through carbon layering (like sawdust) and proper aeration. When done correctly, it becomes soil after about a year in temperate climates, reducing strain on water systems and rebuilding topsoil.

How does permaculture apply to social systems?

Permaculture extends into communication (including Nonviolent Communication), collective decision-making, barter systems, repair culture, and resource-sharing networks. It asks, “Why are we doing what we’re doing?” and challenges systems like planned obsolescence.

What lessons come from failure in sustainable design?

After a rocket mass heater installation led to a house fire, Gigi learned the importance of risk assessment, thorough research, and asking difficult questions—especially in high-stakes projects involving heat and combustion.

What drives long-term sustainability work?

A deep love of the natural world. For Gigi, the magic of witnessing transformation—like a moth emerging from a chrysalis—fuels her dedication to ecological living and education.

Episode Highlights

1. Permaculture is “a word for everything”—a philosophy of being, thinking, and relating.
2. Living at EcoVillage at Ithaca revealed that sustainability can mean thriving—not surviving.
3. Local food challenges in Alaska sparked deeper community connection and dietary awareness.
4. Barter systems and lending exchanges offer alternatives to money-centered economies.
5. Post-disaster “Poop Fairy” organizing helped Asheville residents regain sanitation independence.
6. Tool libraries and repair cafés push back against planned obsolescence.
7. A rocket mass heater fire became a powerful lesson in risk management and self-trust.
8. Humor, humility, and joy are essential tools in sustainable living.

Calls to Action & Resources

The Humanure Handbook — The Humanure Handbook

Intentional Communities Directory — https://www.ic.org

Transition Movement — Transition Towns

Show Notes — https://urbanfarm.org/gigisgarden

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