How to describe Gary Marks? Deep vinyl junkies might know him for the three albums he released in the 70s that fused jazz and folk in a fresh way that no one had heard before or since. He quickly chose to move on and came back a few years later recording pop rock music very much like you would have heard on the radio in the 80s and 90s. Why this drastic change? Not to mention, he chose early on not to tour or promote himself, meaning he would remain a fiercely independent artist for the long haul. For Record Story Day this weekend, a sampler of his entire career called Crossroads will be released on vinyl for the first time. Gary explains his reasoning for these decisions, how he feels about those 70s albums fetching hundreds of dollars on the secondary market, the many novels he's written, and his love for pickleball. He's a wonderfully eccentric artist who happens to make wholly unique music that will blow your mind. Enjoy!  www.garymarksmusic.com www.patreon.com/c/thehustlepod

Even though Wire are considered one of the most important post-punk bands ever, it's actually been a long time since they played in that genre. The band quickly evolved over a couple albums to incorporate more dance beats and front man Colin Newman has been in that groove ever since. In the 80s he was hired by Israel's Minimal Compact to produce an album, then he and Malka Spiegel fell in love and have been partnered in life and music ever since. Their main outlet is their electronic group Immersion who released a new album recently aptly titled WTF??. These two join us this week to explain how their worlds came together, their successful radio show Swimming in Sound came to be, the difficulty of maintaining the business of a music career, and they pull no punches with their thoughts on Elastica. It's a fascinating conversation with two vital artists. Enjoy! 

www.immersionhq.uk

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One could argue that the sound of American indie rock and power pop was shaped by Mitch Easter. Of course, he produced those early REM albums that are practically canon now, but his own music with Let's Active and his partnership with the likes of Scott Miller (Game Theory, Loud Family) and the db's have further cemented his legendary status. Recently, he's lent his talents to the Salt Collective, a fascinating project by French artist Stephane Schuck that has gathered a bunch of all-stars (Mitch, Matthew Caws, Andy Partridge, Peter Holsapple, Ken Stringfellow, Juliana Hatfield, Richard Lloyd, Susan Cowsill etc) to release a couple albums, the most recent being A Brief History of Blindness. Mitch and I get into how he signed on to this project and everything else he's done. Enjoy! 

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We love the Tubes around here so we're breaking one of our rules of not dipping into bands we've already covered on the show. There's a very good reason for this. Drummer Prairie Prince is a lot more than the Tubes' drummer. His long and storied career includes Todd Rundgren, Chris Isaak, Brian Eno, Jefferson Starship, Journey, David Foster and tons more. Prairie just released his first solo album, Colors and Passions, which is more of an ambitious art project than a collection of songs. Inspired by a 1966 album by jazz/spoken word artist Ken Nordine, the album is poetry and spoken word pieces about colors put to music as only an artist like Prairie can do. He joins us this week to discuss the creation of the album and to share stories from his long and diverse career. He's one of a kind. Enjoy! 

www.prairieprince.com

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Helix front man Brian Vollmer has been bringing the rock for over 50 years. From humble Canadian beginnings, Helix have managed to keep the metal moving through trends, periods of indifference, super highs ("Rock You") and low lows (deaths). His commitment to rock has never wavered. Recently, the band released the aptly named Scrap Metal, a collection of new songs and reimagined classics that fans old and new will enjoy. What's great about this conversation with Brian is his openness to discussing the societal and financial challenges of keeping the band viable. He's been forced to learn the business side and it's helped immensely. Enjoy! 

www.planethelix.com

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There have been few creative bursts of the modern era more epic than George Clinton's in the 70s. He had so many songs in his brain he had to keep creating bands or producing artists to get them all out. One of his key players during this furtive time was guitarist Michael Hampton. "The Kidd" joined George's team while still a teenager when Eddie Hazel started to do his own thing. From there, George used him in Parliament, Funkadelic, the Brides of Funkenstein, Parlay, and with artists like Bootsy Collins, Bernie Worrell and Fred Wesley. Michael still plays with the P-Funk All-Stars to this day and has recently released a free EP called Into the Public Domain that shows he hasn't lost anything in terms of guitar playing. It was a heady time and Michael and I try to wrap our brains around it all, but it was a challenge. However, there's no mistaking that some of the greatest funk music ever made has Michael's stamp on it and we're grateful he's here this week to discuss it with us. Enjoy! 

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Former Boston Globe Music Critic and rock and roll lifer Jim Sullivan joins us this week to discuss his highly entertaining new books Backstage and Beyond. There are two volumes (or one "Complete" version that includes both and some extra chapters) that share his conversations with most of the major movers and shakers over the last 45 years in rock. There's everyone from Jerry Lee Lewis to David Bowie to Ginger Baker to Enya to George Clinton. Jim and I discuss his long career with the Globe and what he does now, why most music critics all like the same music, his thoughts on rock stardom in general and a lot more. Enjoy, it's a blast! 

Backstage & Beyond Complete (eBook) — Trouser Press Books

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It was going so well. Detroit's Von Bondies exploded out of the same garage rock scene that birthed the White Stripes and many others. In fact, Jack White produced their first album, Lack of Communication, in 2002. Things really took off with their Jerry Harrison-produced follow up Pawn Shoppe Heart from 2004 and "C'mon C'mon" became the theme song to the show Rescue Me. But then an unfortunate confrontation with Jack in a bar (and the brutal sucker punch seen 'round the world), and momentum for the band slowed with front man Jason Stollsteimer deciding he'd said everything he had to say. They managed one more album (and a few false starts with other bands), but Jason decided he was happier stepping away from music. Jason does his first interview in about 10 years to give us the history of the band, what he's up to now, why he gave up music, and the facts of that fight and that famous photo. The band had so much promise, it's a shame there isn't more, but we're so honored to hear from Jason this week. Enjoy!

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Jon is joined by former guest Jackie Clary and our great friend Ryan Rauzon to discuss the recently released memoir by Cameron Crowe, The Uncool. We get into our history of fandom with Cameron, our thoughts on the book, on his career, the meaning of his "happysad" theory, rock journalism, and how he and the book have affected our lives. This was recorded live with no edits. If you've read the book, tell us what you think. Enjoy! 

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Britain's Cast are enjoying quite the second chapter. The last few years have seen a creative burst that rivals, if not exceeds, their early work. The result of this is some of their best music including their latest album, Yeah Yeah Yeah produced by former guest Youth. This technicolor masterpiece sees the lads expanding their sound in ways only Youth could inspire. Plus, you might have noticed them opening many shows for the little band Oasis on their monstrous reunion tour last year. Frontman John Power shares stories about releasing one of the biggest debuts in UK rock history, the lean solo years, as well as his time in the La's and why he thinks that band's frontman Lee Mavers has stayed put all this time. Great band - great guy! 

Cast – Cast Band Tour 2025

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The return of the great 90s power pop band Sugar has music lovers on the edge of their seats. So far there have been a couple new songs and some announced live dates, but where this could go remains to be seen. Bassist David Barbe joins us this week to discuss how this even came to be and what could be in store. Prior to Sugar, Barbe was in a fantastic punk band called Mercyland and Propeller Sound Recordings have been getting their albums remastered and rereleased so there's that to discuss as well. In addition, he's worked with the Drive-By Truckers for decades as well as Deerhunter, including producing albums by both. David's also an educator at the University of Georgia in Athens and has strong ties to the great music that came out of that area. As you can see, there's a lot to unpack here. Not to mention, David's just about the coolest and most inspiring guy you'll ever hear. Enjoy! 

Propeller Sound Recordings

Sugar Return with First New Music and Live Dates in Over Three Decades - Bob Mould

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