- 2 hours 6 minutes284. Katheryn Krick, Alpha Male Pastors & Airplane Evangelism
Katheryn Krick: Spirit or spectacle? Faith or fraud? Another alliteration I can't think of right now?
In this episode of We Should Know Better, the crew gets back into the studio to unpack the wild world of modern church culture and viral internet theology. They kick things off by reviewing the hyper-polished production of South Orange County mega-churches before diving into a viral clip linking a lack of tithing to one's sexual proclivities.
The guys also dissect an airplane meltdown involving an end-times street preacher, look critically at the cultish dynamics surrounding self-proclaimed apostle Katheryn Krick, and unpack what true biblical masculinity looks like compared to modern caricature.
Finally, things take a grounded, vulnerable turn as they wrestle with unanswered prayers, serious illness, and what it means to hold space for hard questions in faith.
00:02.35 - Welcome Back & Merch Plugs
02:11.07 - Over-Produced Churches & South OC Worship Culture
16:09.17 - Theo-Bros & "If You Don't Tithe You're Gay" Viral Clip
28:27.23 - Airplane Evangelist: Flight Delays, End Times, & Captive Audiences
45:30.54 - Personal Faith Journeys & Relational Evangelism
54:44.11 - Deconstructing Faith Healer Katheryn Krick & Viral Manifestations
01:13:26.51 - Psychosomatic Healing vs. Genuine Spiritual Encounters
01:30:59.34 - David and Jonathan: Ancient Relationships & Modern Interpretation
01:45:39.77 - Re-evaluating Masculinity, Nurturing Traits, and Jesus
01:55:37.42 - Processing Cancer, Unanswered Prayer, and Pushing Back on God
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14 August 2026, 1:55 am - 1 hour 7 minutes283.Wheaton College Abuse Coverup & Lindsey Graham's Advice for God
Abuse cover-up at Wheaton College and Lindsey Graham died leading to a thirty-three percent drop in war just kidding I made that last part up.
The guys welcome a special four-legged guest—Ranger the pod dog—before diving straight into the chaos of the internet comment section. Things get spicy as they tackle wild online reactions to their controversial takes on Noah’s flood, divine violence, and the Nephilim.
Later in the show, the hosts reflect on the passing of Lindsey Graham, unravel the troubling cover-up scandal out of Wheaton College, and dissect the subtle art of soccer flopping and terrible baseball umpires.
Grab a drink, stick around through the technical choppiness, and let us know in the comments where we got it wrong!
00:00:30 - Show Intro & Pod Dog Ranger Joins
00:02:09 - Drink Sponsor Ideas & Riverside Technical Issues
00:04:06 - Internet Comments: The Flood & Divine Violence
00:07:22 - Dealing with Blasphemy Accusations & Fundamentalist Energy
00:18:54 - Enthusiast Personalities & Deep Dive Hobbies
00:24:23 - Lindsey Graham's Passing & War Theories
00:29:19 - Wheaton College Controversy & Institutional Cover-ups
00:46:12 - Zach’s Odd Visit to Wheaton
00:50:31 - Institutional Fear vs. Truth
00:58:10 - Sports Talk: The Lakers & Soccer Flopping
00:03:31 - Bad Umpires & John Boy Media
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31 July 2026, 11:28 pm - 1 hour 28 minutes282. Rick Warren's Evolving Stance On Women: SBC Vs Saddleback Church
We talk about the Bible verses that changed Rick Warren's mind about women in church leadership positions as well as the feud between him and the Souther Baptist Convention.
What happens when you let your wife produce the podcast and you threaten to fire her during the show? Absolute chaos!
In this episode, we're joined by special guest producer Lyndsey to break down everything from the marital magic of "chore play" and listener voicemails, to Rick Warren and the Southern Baptist Conventions split over women in church leadership, and why rigid church cultures struggle with nuance.
Plus, we take a detour through ancient text interpretations, first-century euphemisms, and what it really feels like to step into a brand new church community after a decade of leading the old one.
00:00 - Meet the Producer: Lyndsey Joins the Show
03:00 - Chore Play: The Secret to Romance?
10:15 - Questions with Quaid & Catching Up with Scott
17:30 - The SBC vs. Saddleback: Rick Warren and Women in Leadership
37:00 - First Vagilonians and Linguistic Rabbit Holes
51:00 - The Brittleness of Deconstruction and Church Transitions
1:05:00 - Spotting Cult Tactics and Managing Nuance
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25 July 2026, 3:07 am - 1 hour 30 minutes281. Texas Mandates Bible Reading & Cursing In Jesus Name
In this episode of We Should Know Better, the guys dive headfirst into a hilariously chaotic mix of viral street culture, heavy theological head-scratchers, and unsolicited physical observations.
Zack and Andy break down a bizarre viral video of a street preacher casting quite the extreme "biblical" curse on a dancing Jesus impersonator. They then pivot into a raw, honest conversation about their own insecurities—from Zack’s legendary "missing link" brow ridge to Andy’s sudden realization that his bladder is working overtime.
Later, they tackle the mental shift of unexpected inheritance money, debate the controversial new Texas law mandating Bible reading in public schools, and pull up the receipts on Genesis 9 to figure out exactly what happened when Noah got a little too drunk in his tent.
Finally, they question whether a lack of modern creativity means the global simulation is simply running out of memory. Pull up a chair, crack a cold IPA, and remember: we should probably know better.
00:00 – Warm Beers & Setting the Curls Free
02:30 – Zack’s "Missing Link" Sun Visor Ridge
05:00 – Testing the South Pacific IPA
08:45 – Reacting to the Street Preacher vs. Dancing Jesus Video
11:45 – Cursing People with Cancer in Jesus’ Name?
13:15 – Our General Disposition on Street Preachers
19:30 – Pouring One Out for LeBron’s Lakers Era (and Melting Hair)
23:00 – Jordan Peterson as Kermit and Miss Piggy
25:40 – The Smell of Sound Dampening Material
27:00 – What Would You Do With a Surprise $50,000?
34:30 – Non-Profits, Free Trips to Hawaii, and Financial Awkwardness
46:30 – Texas Mandates Bible Reading in Public Schools
53:00 – Balancing Faith Integration vs. State Coercion
59:00 – Fact-Checking Genesis: When Noah Got Drunk & Naked
01:05:00 – Did the Flood Actually Fail to Stop Violence?
01:21:00 – Knowing the Heart of God Through Jesus
01:24:00 – Simulation Theory: Did the World Run Out of Memory in the 90s?
01:27:00 – Giving Power to the State Always Bites Back
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9 July 2026, 12:00 am - 1 hour 59 minutes280. You Might Be A Better Parent Than God (And Other Heresies)
In this episode, Zack wonders if most decent christian parents are more loving than the God they believe in. Controversial! This leads to a discussion on the possibility that God's love and ability to save may be better than traditionally thought.
Also, Andy, Zack and producer Colin dive into a wide range of topics including podcasting upgrades, Father's Day experiences, church 'shopping', theological debates on salvation, and what talent would you give yourself if you had a magic talent wand?
They share candid insights, humorous stories, and philosophical reflections that invite listeners to think deeply and laugh along. In this episode, we delve into the nuances of talent, storytelling, the head and heart balance, and the importance of vulnerability and community in human experience.
Join us as we explore how emotions, intuition, and data shape our lives and relationships.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Excitement for Podcasting
03:06 Father's Day Reflections and Family Dynamics
05:52 Exploring Church Experiences and Theological Questions
09:06 The Concept of Salvation and Fatherhood
11:58 Debating Eternal Damnation and Justice
14:55 Understanding Predestination and Free Will
17:57 Cultural Distractions and Political Commentary
21:06 Personal Experiences with Anger and Frustration
23:47 Navigating Professional Challenges and Expectations
26:57 Social Media Dynamics and Public Perception
30:10 Cultural Observations and Global Perspectives
32:51 Concluding Thoughts on Relationships and Vows
41:38 Exploring Vow Renewals and Their Motivations
44:07 The Significance of Celebrating Love and Longevity
48:04 The Role of AI in Communication and Writing
50:11 Admiring Talents: Singing and Craftsmanship
56:05 Nostalgia and the Joy of Dunking
01:01:09 The Intersection of Math and Creativity
01:07:30 Balancing Head and Heart in Decision Making
01:21:48 Navigating Emotions and Logic
01:22:36 The Rider and the Elephant: Understanding Intuition
01:24:51 The Interplay of Emotions and Logic
01:26:45 Cultivating Sensitivity to Intuition
01:28:12 Applying Pressure: Balancing Frustration and Compassion
01:30:41 The Role of Leadership in Difficult Conversations
01:32:12 Head vs. Heart: Delivering Hard News
01:36:01 Finding Balance in Communication
01:44:50 The Complexity of Human Emotions
01:57:31 The Power of Presence in Difficult Moments
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29 June 2026, 2:13 pm - 1 hour 55 minutes279. Aliens Existence Affects Christianity
In this episode, we explore a wide range of topics including the influence of conspiracy theories, the nature of faith and belief, societal protests, and the impact of wealth inequality.
Join us for a candid and humorous conversation that challenges perceptions and encourages critical thinking.
In this episode, we explore the nature of divine inspiration, the integrity of the Bible, and the influence of political and social events on public perception. We also touch on recent political controversies, UFC events at the White House, and cultural observations.
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22 June 2026, 8:10 pm - 1 hour 21 minutes278. When Love Becomes Your Worst Enemy w/ Matthew J Distefano
In this engaging conversation, Matthew Distefano explores the profound themes of love, morality, and storytelling through the lens of video games like The Last of Us and Red Dead Redemption 2.
He wrote a killer book on it called "Saints, Sinners, and Clickers: Love and Loss in The Last of Us". The discussion centers on how these narratives challenge our perceptions of morality, the power of storytelling, and the intersection of faith and culture.
Connect with Matthew on Instagram, check out Quoir Publishing on Instagram & YouTube, and The Heretic Happy Hour Podcast
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19 May 2026, 12:00 pm - 2 hours 10 minutes277. The Holy Trinity of Christian Outrage
What happens when a simple video of leading worship sparks a viral "kerfuffle" north of a million views? This week, the guys sit down with Courtney Lancaster from the "Heal/Create" podcast to unpack the "Holy Trinity of Christian Outrage": religion, gender roles, and the deconstruction movement.
Courtney shares the story behind her unexpected Instagram traction after posting a video of herself leading worship and opening up about her "faith reorganization." The conversation explores the tension of staying within a faith tradition while holding views that differ from conservative evangelical norms.
Key Discussion Points: The "Mean Christian Comments" Game: Courtney and the hosts react to actual comments from her viral post, ranging from questions about women in ministry to accusations of "New Age psycho-babble."
Theology of Shame vs. Trauma Recovery: A deep dive into why many were raised with the identity of "shame and depravity" (the idea that God is only good because we are bad) and how trauma-informed therapy offers a different lens on our value as "well-loved children of God."
Worship Lyrics and Integrity: Courtney explains why she refuses to sing songs that rehearse a shame narrative, such as certain lyrics in "Reckless Love," arguing that a child shouldn't have to "earn" or "deserve" a parent's love.
Post-Christianity and Individualism: The crew debates the concept of "post-Christianity"—stripping out parts of the faith one likes while discarding the rest—and whether this leads to a "narcissistic" echo chamber or a healthy "faith reorganization."
The Future of the Church: Reflections on the closing of Mountain View Church and the hope that more "centered-set" spaces will emerge where people can wrestle with divergent ideas without being "kicked out."
Information Overload: Andy and Courtney discuss how our brains aren't designed to handle the "woes of the world" delivered via 24/7 digital feeds, and the importance of "touching grass" to maintain mental health.
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23 April 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 35 minutes276. The Biblical Zombie Apocalypse
We dive into one of the strangest and most cinematic passages in the entire New Testament: the "resurrection of the saints" in Jerusalem following Jesus crucifixion. Was it a literal historical event, a metaphorical callback to Ezekiel, or something else entirely?
The boys play a high-stakes round of "Zombie or Zom-bae," testing their Bible trivia on everything from Lazarus’s "smell factor" to Elisha’s miracle bones.
Bros, Bibles and Beer is officially rebranding soon. We discuss the heart behind our new name—We Should Know Better—and share some heavy news regarding the closure of our church home.
00:00 - Intro: Trump Bobbleheads & Hop Secret Beer 02:34 - New Game: Zombie or Zombie! 04:00 - The 48-Hour Resurrection Delay (Matthew 27) 06:10 - Lazarus & the 4-Day Cultural Proof 07:55 - Elisha’s Miracle Bones vs. Gary 10:00 - Tabitha’s Portfolio & Brisket Recipes 11:55 - Andy’s Carpool Lane Confession 15:00 - The Theology of "Celestial Zombies" 21:20 - Midrash: Was it a Literal Zombie Army? 27:00 - The "Revealed" Veil: A New Perspective on Access 31:00 - Oral Tradition: 9/11 and the Megaphone Theory 43:00 - Is the Bible "Perfect"? Exploring Literary Genres 50:30 - Major Announcement: Rebranding to "We Should Know Better" 01:00:58 - Hard News: The Closing of Mountain View Church 01:18:20 - Why the Community Was Worth Fighting For 01:28:30 - Muscle Mommies & Kerry Underwood’s Legs 01:33:30 - Future Plans & Final Cheers
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14 April 2026, 10:00 am - 2 hours 15 minutesBiblical Israel Is Not Today's Israel
In this heated and deeply personal episode of Bros Bibles & Beer, Andy McCraw, Zack Krater, and "professional Christian" guest Carey Robinson deconstruct the modern evangelical obsession with defending the modern State of Israel at all costs.
The crew kicks things off with a high-stakes game of "Rapture, Barely Even Know Her" forcing the hosts to choose between being a "Beamer" (pre-tribulation escapee) or "Last Man Standing" (tribulation survivor).
The conversation turns provocative as they challenge the "ironclad truth" of Dispensationalism—a 19th-century theological framework they argue has been used to manipulate the American church into blind support for the modern State of Israel.
From Netanyahu and Epstein files to the "uniparty" and toxic empathy, no cultural third rail is left untouched. Are we following the Prince of Peace or just political operatives in pulpits?
Grab a beverage of choice and join us for a dive into biblical prophecy, Christian Zionism, and why spiritual maturity often looks a lot like deconstruction.
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31 March 2026, 12:00 pm - 1 hour 51 minutes273. Is James Talerico's Theology Actually Dangerous?
This week on Bros, Bibles & Beer, Andy McCraw, Zack Krater, and producer Colin dive into the theological firestorm surrounding Texas State Representative James Talerico.
Prompted by Allie Beth Stuckey’s recent "demonic" label of Talerico, the guys put their own beliefs to the test with a provocative new segment: "Are You a Heretic?" Using a quiz powered by Gemini AI, the team explores the divide between traditional orthodoxy and Talerico’s progressive "liberation theology."
From debating whether Jesus was a political revolutionary to deconstructing the "theology of consent" regarding reproductive rights, the conversation gets personal, heated, and deeply honest.
Also in this episode:
-The Allie Beth Stuckey Critique: Does labeling progressive Christians "demonic" go too far, or is she right to sound the alarm on "twisting" scripture?
-The Sovereignty of God: A breakdown of Stuckey’s view on God’s control vs. the guys' own experiences with deconstruction.
-Ozzy Osbourne & the Prince of Darkness: Why you can't always trust the media's portrayal of a person's faith.
-Vegas Trip & Satanic Spheres: Andy shares his "uncomfortable" experience with the dark visuals at a recent concert in the Las Vegas Sphere.
-The "Joy and Matt" Mystery: A strange, dark-web voicemail involves missing nail polish and a guy named Matt.
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