The Modern West

Wyoming Public Media

Exploring the evolving identity of the American West

  • 52 minutes 40 seconds
    The Modern West shares: Our Uncertain Future, an off gridding podcast

     This time on the show, we share an episode from another podcast called Our Uncertain Future. It’s produced by Johanna DeBiase and Eric Mack, the couple we met in our last bonus episode called “An Apocalyptic American Dream.” Johanna and Eric and their teenage daughter live in a strawbale house in the no man’s land of the Mesa, a few miles west of Taos, New Mexico. They’ve been documenting the reasons they’ve chosen this life, and in this episode, they celebrate six years of off gridding. 

    1 April 2026, 6:00 am
  • 27 minutes 40 seconds
    The Apocalyptic American Dream: A Cheap Dirt Bonus Episode

     A visit to a family living in a straw bale house on the Mesa outside Taos, New Mexico. They say they’re feeling less stressed about the chaos of the world because living off grid has given them survival skills. And they delve into the lurid history of how this subdivision turned into a no man’s land in the first place. 

    18 March 2026, 6:00 am
  • 44 minutes 16 seconds
    Outlawland

    The story of one family who lived off grid in a yurt for years in the no man’s land of the Mesa outside Taos, New Mexico. Now that her kids are all grown, Janelle has come full circle. She bought some land and a new yurt and re-adopted this life in her 50’s.

    4 March 2026, 7:00 am
  • 45 minutes 47 seconds
    Abide By The Land

    Celeste and Gary Havener seem to have a perfect homesteading story: the horses, the garden, the honeybees, an amazing mountain view from every window. But theirs is actually a cautionary tale of enduring cancer, COVID and multiple forest fires. At 70, they almost gave up the life. But then they realized they were surrounded by support.

    18 February 2026, 7:00 am
  • 46 minutes 20 seconds
    The Flats

    We talk with Pulitzer finalist Ted Conover about his book Cheap Land, Colorado: Off Gridders On America’s Edge. Ted bought land in an area outside of Alamosa where he and his neighbors lived off grid with few social safety nets. His take away? It’s a difficult life with incredible views and intense poverty. But you can find lifelong friends and experience a special sense of liberation.

    4 February 2026, 7:00 am
  • 35 minutes 31 seconds
    Charismatic People

    Paul Menjares moved to Frisco, Colorado to live the good life as a musician. But when his landlords kept canceling his leases to turn his apartments into short term rentals, he made a crazy decision. He moved into his car. That was three years ago. Now he’s the manager of a program helping other people do the same thing.

    21 January 2026, 7:00 am
  • 27 minutes 57 seconds
    Many Hands Make Light Work

    When a U.S. Forest Service worker gets fired by DOGE, she’s left scrambling to find a place to live while she finishes building her straw bale house. Luckily, she has lots of friends who not only let her couchsurf, but help with the house raising. It’s an old fashioned approach to affordable housing that’s catching on.

    7 January 2026, 7:00 am
  • 1 minute 36 seconds
    Cheap Dirt: Holiday Pause Update

    Howdy Cheap Dirt fans! We will be taking a pause this holiday and resuming on January 7th with a new episode.

    24 December 2025, 7:00 am
  • 32 minutes 45 seconds
    The Teeny Tiny House

    People in the American West love tiny houses. But, come to find out, per square foot they cost almost 40% more than a regular house. Eric and Erica found a way to get one on the cheap – by winning one in an auction! But are tiny houses really an affordable housing solution, when you try to scale up?

    10 December 2025, 7:00 am
  • 23 minutes 21 seconds
    Embrace the Suck

    We usually think of full time RVers as retirees. But these days, over half are Millennials and Gen Zers. And way more people are adopting the RV life. Including a house builder who doesn’t have a house of his own. Instead he lives in his RV on the edge of Wyoming’s Big Hollow. He says, off gridding isn’t for the faint of heart.

    26 November 2025, 7:00 am
  • 27 minutes 34 seconds
    The American Spirit

    We journey into the Red Desert of southwest Wyoming to visit a trona mine worker building his dream cabin off grid for the two small children he’s raising alone. He had to buy extra solar panels for his daughter’s medical equipment and the cabin includes an apartment where she can live with him when she grows up. He says it’s all part of his American dream.

    12 November 2025, 7:00 am
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