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  • 59 minutes 23 seconds
    Ep 488 Exit Story: Garren Hilow on Selling for $190M, Taking Stock, and Missing His Earn-Out

    When Garren Hilow helped start Abveris, he didn’t have much—just a background in sales, a co-founder with a Harvard PhD, and a stock option representing 16% of the company. 

    Eight years later, he bought out his co-founder, bootstrapped the company with bank debt (collateralized by his house), and sold it in a stock deal that peaked at $190 million. 

    4 April 2025, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 7 minutes
    Ep 487 After the Deal: How the Ultra-Wealthy Invest After Selling Their Business

    What would you do with $20 million? 

    That’s the minimum amount required to join Tiger 21, the exclusive network where ultra-high-net-worth entrepreneurs learn how to preserve and grow their wealth. 

    Michael Sonnenfeldt founded Tiger 21 after selling two companies and realizing that the skills that made him a successful entrepreneur didn’t translate into smart investing. He built the group to help other entrepreneurs avoid costly post-exit mistakes. 

    28 March 2025, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 55 seconds
    Ep 486 Inside the Mind of an Acquirer: The Harvard Playbook for Buying Your Business

    A new generation of buyers trained in Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition (ETA) is looking for businesses like yours. Unlike private equity firms focused on roll-ups, ETA buyers are often searching for a single business to own and operate—making them a legitimate option for certain sellers. 

    21 March 2025, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 9 minutes
    Ep 485 After the Deal: The Psychology of Selling—Kill Criteria, Walkaway Mindset & Why “Telling Your Company’s Story” Often Drives Up Your Multiple

    For the first time ever, we recorded a Built to Sell Radio episode in front of a live audience at the Value Builder Summit—a gathering of mission-driven advisors dedicated to helping founders level the playing field as they approach their exit. 

    Rob Walling has started, built, and sold multiple companies. As an investor and conference organizer, he’s seen hundreds of founders exit—some thriving, others struggling. He teamed up with Dr. Sherry Walling, a clinical psychologist specializing in supporting entrepreneurs, to codify what separates a successful exit from one that leaves an owner adrift. Their insights culminated in their new book Exit Strategy. 

    14 March 2025, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 10 minutes
    Ep 484 How to Know When It’s Time to Sell

    Kristie Shifflette built a 13-location Orangetheory Fitness empire from scratch—bootstrapping a capital-hungry business, personally guaranteeing leases, and taking on risk most founders wouldn’t touch. In the end, it paid off for Kristie and in this episode, you’ll discover how to: 

    • Bootstrap a capital-intensive business without giving up control 

    • Reduce your risk when taking on an investor 

    • Attract entrepreneurial employees who will care as much as you do 

    • Think about the $10 million milestone (and why it matters to private equity) 

    • Know when to take some chips off the table—and when to double down 

    • Ace management presentations with an acquirer 

    • Play hard to get (even when you want to sell) 

    • Get an acquirer to bump up their offer  

    • Max out an earn-out payment—even if you don’t quite hit your targets 

    • Spot an acquisition offer that’s likely to be re-traded 

    7 March 2025, 6:00 am
  • 1 hour 28 minutes
    Ep 483 Exit Story: Frank Shultz on Escaping the 50/50 Trap and Buying Out a Partner

    When Frank Shultz co-founded Infinite Blue, he and his partner split ownership 50/50. The business thrived, but their working relationship soured. Frank wanted to buy out his co-founder, but with a valuation in the eight figures, he faced a daunting question: where would he get the cash? 

    28 February 2025, 6:00 am
  • 1 hour 17 minutes
    Ep 482 Exit Story: Bob Gilbreath — "The Adult Version of the Marshmallow Test" and How to Capitalize on an Earn-Out

    An earn-out is a deal structure where part of the sale price is contingent on the business hitting future performance goals. For many owners, it feels like a gamble—where the payout is uncertain, and the risks are high. 

    But Bob Gilbreath flipped the script. 

    He navigated two complex earn-outs across two service businesses and turned both into massive financial wins. In this episode of Built to Sell Radio, Bob shares how he turned the dreaded earn-out into his greatest asset. 

    21 February 2025, 11:00 am
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    Ep 481 After the Deal: What 70 Founders Reveal About Generational Wealth, the Achievement Trap & the Happiness Illusion

    Most founders focus all their energy on getting to an exit, but few stop to consider what comes next. In this episode of Built to Sell Radio, John Rood shares what he learned after selling Next Step Test Prep to private equity—and why he decided to write Beyond the Exit. 

    14 February 2025, 6:00 am
  • 1 hour 27 minutes
    Ep 480 Exit Story: The $80M Deception—How Kevin Wagstaff Walked Away and Won

    When Kevin Wagstaff and his brother bootstrapped Spectora, a SaaS platform for home inspectors, with just $2,500 each, they never expected to one day face an $80 million acquisition offer. Spectora transformed the home inspection industry by replacing outdated paper reports with a digital platform that streamlined workflows, saved inspectors time, and enhanced the client experience. 

    But when an acquirer attempted to re-trade the deal at the last minute—adding a $25 million seller’s note, a $10 million earn-out, and a 36-month call option—Kevin learned a hard lesson: just because an offer is on the table doesn’t mean the deal is done. 

    The acquirer assumed Kevin and his brother would be too invested in the deal to walk away. But thanks to their advisor’s guidance, they stood firm. The result? The acquirer backtracked, offering the original terms. Kevin and his brother still walked, ultimately selling a majority stake at a $90 million valuation to a better partner. 

    7 February 2025, 6:00 am
  • 1 hour 18 minutes
    Ep 479 Exit Story: How to Attract a Fortune 500 Acquirer With Brock Weatherup

    Selling your business to a Fortune 500 company is a dream for many founders. Strategic acquirers often pay the most because they can integrate your business into their larger ecosystem. It’s rare to pull off even once—Brock Weatherup has done it three times. 

    In this episode of Built to Sell Radio, Brock reveals the strategies that helped him attract Fortune 500 buyers like PetSmart and Petco. This episode is a roadmap for anyone who wants to sell their business to a strategic acquirer. 

    31 January 2025, 6:00 am
  • 1 hour 21 minutes
    Ep 478 After the Deal: When Can You Afford to Fly Private? with Preston Holland

    That’s why we created the After the Deal series on Built to Sell Radio. This series explores life after selling a business—delving into the personal, financial, and emotional transitions that come when work becomes a choice, not a requirement. 

    In this episode, we speak with Preston Holland, author of Private Jet Insider and an expert in private aviation. Preston shares why private jet travel isn’t just for celebrities and explains how business owners use private aviation to buy back their most valuable asset: time. 

    24 January 2025, 6:00 am
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