In this episode of Moment of Zen, Erik is joined by Jonathan Haidt, social psychologist at New York University’s Stern School of Business and author of the newly released book "The Anxious Generation."

They have a comprehensive discussion that touches on the polarization and dysfunction in American politics, the impact of social media on democracy, and the importance of reclaiming a play-based childhood for the current generation

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Website: https://jonathanhaidt.com/

Jon's Substack: https://www.afterbabel.com/p/welcome-to-the-after-babel-substack

The Anxious Generation: https://www.anxiousgeneration.com/

The Anxious Generation Book: https://www.anxiousgeneration.com/book

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:13) Evolution of Jonathan's Work: From Moral Psychology to 'The Anxious Generation'

(01:14) The Impact of Social Media on Teen Mental Health

(02:50) Exploring the Tragedy of the Modern Childhood

(07:29) Addressing the Criticism and Pushback

(12:08) The Unprecedented Effects of Social Media on Society

(19:37) Adapting to Technological Changes and the Future of Childhood

(20:20) The Dire State of Democracy in the Digital Age

(27:01) How Technology Affects Liberals and Conservatives Differently

(28:20) Unveiling the Research: The Rise of Anxiety and Depression

(28:48) Breaking Down the Data: Gender, Politics, and Mental Health

(30:48) The Protective Power of Religion and Community

(31:32) Parenting Styles and Moral Values

(32:07) Challenges for Progressive Organizations and the Democratic Party

(32:42) Recommendations for a Healthier Childhood in the Digital Age

(33:50) Addressing the Broader Issues Beyond Smartphones

(34:35) The Role of Schools in Children's Mental Health

(36:33) A Call for Intentional Community Building

(37:34) Navigating the Public Health Crisis with Apolitical Solutions

(40:41) Engaging with the Tech Industry: Critiques and Clarifications

(41:01) The Debate on Content Moderation and the Need for Structural Changes

(56:27) Wrap

Today we're sharing a recent interview Erik gave to Alex LaBossiere that covers lots of themes we discuss on Moment of Zen - including Erik's views on tech vs. the media, hypocrisy of the elites, risk orientation, and the thesis behind Turpentine. Grow your newsletter with Beehiiv, head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months

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Alex Labossiere podcast:

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@labossiere

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7lf0G6SBTArFlJYuHlPPoy?si=459fb368b525468d&nd=1&dlsi=eb2b481981f44211

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/labossiere-podcast/id1566013149

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(05:38) On Investing vs Operating

(08:05) Trust and Direct Distribution

(11:55) Legacy Media and the Techlash

(17:54) Sponsor: Netsuite | Beehiiv

(20:32) What is Turpentine

(22:23) Lessons From 1000 Interviews

(23:51) The Printing Press, Barbells, and the Future of Media

(28:13) Pre-Internet Journalism and Survival of the Fittest Ideas

(31:35) Creator Monetization and Price Discrimination

(37:45) Sponsor: Squad

(39:12) Does Media Have a Direction?

(46:02) Tailwinds and Turpentine at Scale

(53:55) Creating More Startups and Understanding Risk

(58:42) Is Entrepreneurship Founder or Market Limited?

(1:03:22) What Do Most People Get Wrong About Community Building?

(1:05:51) Probabilistic vs Deterministic Mindsets

(1:08:48) On Faith over Logic

(1:12:22) Modernity and God Shaped Holes

(1:15:02) The Hypocrisy of Elites

(1:17:47) Asking Erik Questions He Asks People

(1:19:05) What Should More People be Thinking About?

(1:22:37) Wrap

Today’s episode is a debate from Bankless on the opposing viewpoints of Effective Accelerationism (E/ACC) and Effective Altruism (EA). Hosted by Ryan Sean Adams and David Hoffman and featuring Haseeb Qureshi and our own Erik Torenberg, the podcast discusses whether AI progression should be cautiously regulated or aggressively pursued with minimal oversight.

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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0epyYBAxLeF0PsNagdDJAJ

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/company-breakdowns/id1743119197

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Preview

(00:43) Navigating the Tech Acceleration vs. Deceleration Debate

(06:31) Exploring Effective Altruism (EA) and Its Impact on AI and Tech

(08:53) The EA Perspective: Balancing AI Risk with Technological Progress

(17:52) Sponsor: Netsuite | Beehiiv

(20:15) Effective altruists debate AI's future impact

(30:04) Navigating the Culture War: Accelerationism vs. Decelerationism

(33:48) Sponsor: Squad

(35:50) EA's Influence and the Acceleration Debate

(37:28 )AI Regulation and the Influence of Congress

(38:12) Crypto Tribes and the Impact of Social Media

(39:03) The Reality of Crypto Twitter vs. Actual Influence

(39:51) Exploring Silicon Valley's Perspective on AI and Regulation

(41:44) The OpenAI Coup: Unpacking the Real Story

(44:03) AI Safety vs Self-Regulation

(46:13) Silicon Valley in AI Development and Regulation

(59:47) The Complexities of AI Ethics and the Call for More Debate

(1:09:15) Exploring the EA Worldview and Its Misconceptions

(1:09:44) A Rational Approach to AI and Existential Risks

(1:12:04) Branding and Perception Challenges of EA

(1:12:42) EA's Beta Energy vs. Alpha Aggression

(1:13:15) Balanced Tech Ecosystem: EA and E/ACC Synergy

(1:18:26) Navigating the Political Landscape of AI and Technology

(1:31:31) The Importance of a Multi-faceted Approach to AI Regulation

(1:40:06) AI Safety, Ethics, and Accelerationism

(1:42:22) Wrap

In this episode, Mike Rainbow (co-founder of Rainbow wallet) joins Erik, Dan, and Antonio as they dive into crypto's future. The conversation was prompted by the thesis that innovative social protocols like Farcaster are co-evolving with crypto wallets as onramps or a portal to web3. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/zen — NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks.

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🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA, and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.

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LINKS:

Check out Rainbow: https://rainbow.me/en/

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Exploring Crypto's Impact on Financial Intermediaries

(01:36) Introducing Mike Rainbow: A Unique Crypto Personality

(02:09) Massachusetts Memories and Dunkin' Donuts Dominance

(02:46) East Coast Social Dynamics and Crypto Culture

(04:46) The Evolution of Wallets and Social Networks in Crypto

(06:26) Debating the Convergence of Crypto Products

(15:00) Sponsors: Netsuite | Harmonic

(17:18) Building Integrated Crypto Platforms Continued

(22:15) The Future of Messaging and Composability in Crypto

(27:30) Exploring Group Chat Dynamics and App Adoption

(28:13) The Evolution of Transaction Frames in Crypto

(30:37) Sponsor: Squad

(32:02) Innovations and Challenges in Transaction Frames

(36:29) Deep Dive into Frame Technology and Developer Challenges

(41:39) The Future of Frames and Web3 Standards

(46:51) Demographic Shifts and Future Directions for Farcaster

(53:49) Wrap

Bryan Johnson joins Antonio Garcia Martinez and Erik Torenberg on Moment of Zen to discuss the deeper spiritual beliefs behind the "Don't Die" movement in the face of AI and the inadequacy of human clock speed. They cover religions as death cults, long-termism vs engineering your own longevity, and Bryan's recent interview on Tucker Carlson.

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🧲 Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine VC during your demo.

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LINKS:

Bryan Johnson on Tucker Carlson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr4E0jEjQMM

Bryan Johnson's Blueprint/ Don't Die: https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/DONT-DIE-by-Zero

Book recommendation: The Postmortal by Drew Magary https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10673576-the-postmortal

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Opening Banter

(00:19) Bryan's Tucker Carlson Interview

(01:19) Long-Termism

(02:24) The 25th Century Perspective

(07:56) Navigating the Future with AI and the Network State

(09:40) Sponsor: Netsuite | Squad

(12:11) The 'Don't Die' Philosophy and Its Implications

(15:47) The Blade Runner Fallacy

(18:39) Using Algorithms to Optimize Your Personal Life

(22:39) Redefining Civilization in the Age of AI

(25:50) On Mortality and Future Civilization

(32:22) Exploring Existential Crises and the Role of Faith

(33:45) The Identity Crisis in Modern Society

(36:08) Technology and Tradition: A Surprising Harmony

(38:04) Future of AI and Its Impact on Society

(38:56) Navigating the Unpredictable Future

(45:32) The Philosophical Debate on Existence and Survival

(1:02:14) Reimagining Human Experience in a Post-Death World

(1:04:28) Wrap

Li Jin joins Erik Torenberg, Dan Romero, and Antonio Garcia Martinez. Li is the co-founder of Variant Fund and a prolific writer. This episode dives deep into crypto, web3, memecoins, and the attention economy thesis. They cover the direction of techno-capitalism and its impact on politics, decentralization, and the cultural differences between American and European value systems. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/zen - now through April 15th NetSuite is offering a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program.

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LINKS:

Li Jin: https://li-jin.co/about/

Variant Fund: https://variant.fund/

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TIMESTAMPSL

(00:00) Adding Ukraine to NATO

(01:30) Peace in Ukraine?

(05:16) On the Attention Economy

(10:16) Meme Coins and Attention Valuation

(14:23) Sponsor: NetSuite | Squad

(17:38) Meme Coins Continued

(23:51) Marxism

(33:05) Exploring the Power Structure and Social Tensions

(34:10) The Managerial Elite and Bourgeoisie Capitalism

(36:12) Perspectives on Europe and Innovation

(44:16) Crypto's Role in Society: Egalitarian or Hierarchical?

(57:35) Attention Economy and Memetics

(59:28) Wrap

Curtis Yarvin returns to Moment of Zen to talk media, regime change, censorship, and the future role of platforms like X and Reddit in reputation capital structures. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/zen — now through April 15th NetSuite is offering a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program.

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This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

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Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries.

Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836

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Curtis Yarvin's Writing: https://graymirror.substack.com/

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Preview

(01:54) Yarvin vs Hanania Debate

(05:19) Roadmap to Building the New Regime

(06:59) Militias and Building a New Regime Within an Existing One

(12:10) Journalism and Intelligence in Shaping Regimes

(15:00) Sponsor: Netsuite | Turpentine

(16:47) Founding State Media for the Next Regime

(23:42) Maximizing Trust and Engagement

(45:14) Elite Seduction in Media Influence

(55:21) Concept of a "Truth Machine"

(59:59) Regime Change and the Role of Media

(1:05:21) Advice to Elon Musk

(1:13:20) Reimagining Twitter's Role and Impact

(1:29:13) Authority and Power in Media

(1:38:04) Wrap

In this episode, Dan, Erik and Antonio discuss Don Lemon’s interview with Elon Musk, the Dune 2 and Napoleon releases, polyamory, the Apple antitrust case, and fatherly advice. Happy birthday Antonio! If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/zen -- now through April 15th NetSuite is offering a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program.

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RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries.

Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Don Lemon's Interview with Elon Musk

(02:48) The Media Shift and the Decline of Slow Journalism

(06:37) On Public Figures and Platforms

(11:58) Fatherly Advice

(17:10) Sponsor - Netsuite | Turpentine

(24:58) Napoleon's Portrayal in Ridley Scott's Film

(34:37) Dune 2 commentary

(41:48) Who liked David Lynch's Adaptation of Dune?

(43:57) The Evolution of Movie-Going: From Digital to Analog Luxury

(45:33) Polyamory Discourse

(48:37) Microsoft, Apple, and Antitrust Laws

(56:57) The TikTok Conundrum

(1:03:31) Age, Diet, and Digital Sabbaths

(1:11:46) Aella’s Legacy: Free Speech, Polyamory, and Creator Economy

(1:14:33) Wrap

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

In this conversation, Erik Torenberg sits down with Antonio Garcia Martinez, founder of Spindl and author of ‘Chaos Monkeys’, and Parker Thompson, partner at SAX Capital, TNT Ventures, and AngelList, to explore the influence of social media on society. They discuss media literacy and journalism, how politics change people's views of social media, and the rise of unique religious movements in social activism. This episode marks the first time Erik interviewed Antonio Garcia Martinez on Venture Stories back in 2019 and remains relevant today. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/zen.

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RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries.

Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333

Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836.

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BOOKS CITED:

Chaos Monkeys by Antonio Garcia Martinez

Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man by Marshall McLuhan 

Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business by Neil Postman

The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-Events in America by Daniel J. Boorstin

The Revolt of the Public and the Crisis of Authority in the New Millennium by Martin Gurri

Seven Types of Atheism by John Gray

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(01:23) Impact of Facebook

(02:41) Evolution of Media and Its Influence on Society

(10:10) Journalism and Media Ethics

(26:25) Effectiveness of Media Regulation

(33:10) Facebook's Content Curation

(34:02) Content Control

(35:32) Impact of Algorithms on Society and Business

(38:50) Generational Shifts in Media Consumption

(45:57) Exploring the Ideology of Silicon Valley

(49:44) Secular Religions and the Quest for Community

(58:39) Future of Religion and Community in the Digital Age

(01:03:36) Wrap

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

In this conversation, Erik Torenberg and Dan Romero sit with Rudyard Lynch of  @WhatifAltHist  to discuss his analysis of potential future global events, such as an American civil war and a revolution in China, considering economic conditions, demographics, and societal behaviors. If you're looking for an ERP platform, check out NetSuite: https://netsuite.com/zen.

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BOOKS CITED:

Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies by Jared Diamond

Who We Are and How We Got Here: Ancient DNA and the New Science of the Human Past by David Reich

The Coming Caesars by Amaury De Riencourt

The Eye of Shiva: Eastern Mysticism and Science by Amaury De Riencourt

Bulfinch's Mythology - All Three Volumes - The Age of Fable, The Age of Chivalry, and Legends of Charlemagne by Thomas Bulfinch

Dune by Frank Herbert

Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(01:14) Rudyard and Dan's Approach to History

(03:50) Alt History

(11:57) Modern Civilization and Historical Patterns

(19:31) Sponsor: NETSUITE

(20:50) Possibility of a Civil War?

(42:47) Political Crisis and the Split of States

(44:00) Power of American National Guards

(45:02) Dependence of States on Federal Funding

(43:47) Economic Divide in America

(47:18) Struggles of Average Americans

(48:50) Insane Minorities in Civil Wars

(50:00) Power of Elites in Conflicts

(57:34) Potential for a Competent Trump-like Populist

(01:04:50) The Future of China and Its Potential Revolution

(01:17:20) Wrap

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SELECTION OF BOOKS MENTIONED:

• Why the West Rules -- For Now by Ian Morris
• The Prize by Daniel Yergin
• The Kill Chain by Christian Brose
• Nixonland by Rick Perlstein
• The Sovereign Individual by James Dale Davidson and Lord William Rees-Mogg

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:38) Lessons from Scaling Coinbase

(01:02) Coinbase and Crypto Ideologies

(05:55) The Reality of Working in a Fast-Growing Startup

(08:12) Dan Romero's Self-Learning Journey

(15:46) Sponsor: NetSuite

(17:00) Impact of Globalism and State Capacity

(35:00) Understanding the History of Communism

(46:14) Reflections on Nixon's Presidency

(51:00) Predicting the Future: Technology and Policy

(53:30) Insights from the Book 'Dominion'

(57:37) Reflections on Society and Morality

(01:03:00) Perspectives on Peter Thiel

(01:11:00) Current State and Future of Cryptocurrency

(01:27:00) Power and Influence of Memes

(01:32:00) Learning from Influential Figures in Tech

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].