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Linux User Space
Linux User Space
A podcast focused on connecting user space and community
- 1 hour 21 minutesEpisode 4:18: Open Source Isn't Safe!
Coming up in this episode
- Does it do Passkeys tho?
- So What Happened to Xz anyway?
- How do we fix the internet?
The Video Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3bN3PRmHJYTimestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:36 Amazingly Self-Hosted
34:13 The History of Xz and the Hack*!
49:58 How to Fix Open Source
1:15:56 Next Time
1:20:42 Stinger💻Self Hosting and Passkeys🔑
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
📖The History of XZ🦜
- LZMA
- Andrey Markov
- LZ77 and LZ78
- 7zip history
- Slackels
- LZMA in the form of the GCC compiled LZMA SDK
- Tukanni Linux Project was officially gone
- LZMA Utils was left behind in favor of the similarly LZMA-backed Xz Utils.
- version 5.0 is the transition from LZMA to XZ.
- Some distributions would eventually migrate to using Z Standard compression, including Arch in 2019 and Fedora and Ubuntu would make the switch in 2020.
- A new face, Jigar Kumar, shows up.
- January 7th, 2023, Jia Tan was finally able to merge their own commits to Xz on Github.
- Jia tries to convince the OSS-Fuzz team to accept a patch that disabled Indrect Function.
- Adding the test files which weren't test files at all.
- Andres Freund's Mastodon post
- On April 2nd, 2024, Collin adds a page to his tukaani.org domain.
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- 📜 Linux User Space Twitter
- 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids
⚒️How To Fix Open Source🛠️
🔭Next Time🔭
We plan to explore your feedback and some other topics. Our final history episode of the season will be Gentoo.
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- Bruno
- Dave
- John
- Johnny
- Visaggio & Co
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- Hausken
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- Jefferson
- Jill and Steve
- Larry
- LiNuXsys666
- Livet
- Musical Coder
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- The Saigoneer
- Tobias
13 May 2024, 10:00 am - 1 hour 19 minutesEpisode 4:17: We Ought to Know This By Now
Coming up in this episode
- We put a hat on AI
- The SecureBlue/ublue thing
- The UNIX Wars part deux
0:00 Cold Open
1:49 Artificial Fedora
28:35 The ImmutaBlues
54:01 Feedback
55:20 Tane on Notes and Unix
59:28 Ian on Unix
1:02:33 Chris on Notes and Sync
1:10:22 A Quick Release Update
1:14:41 Next Time
1:18:03 StingerThe Video Version!
https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgUSupport us here!
https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspaceAI dons a hat 🤖🎩
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
Course correction on Secureblue
- We messed up but RoyalOughtness, the creator of Secureblue, set us straight.
- Atomic Fedora is the start of the pipeline:
- xkbcat
📣More Announcements📣
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Reverb Focus
Tane via Email
- Tane uses Nextcloud Notes
- Also Iotas
- Unix Wars
- [The terms of the Open Group](Open Group https://web.archive.org/web/20240205220954/https://unix.org/what_is_unix/single_unix_specification.html)
- Current Open Group members
Ian via email
- BSD, AIX, HP-UX and similar are all as UNIX as you can get these days. They started out as licensed UNIX Operating Systems with a direct IP license from AT&T and passed whatever requirements AT&T had at the time.
Chris via email
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🔭Next Time🔭
We plan to explore and provide the history of XZ Utils.
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29 April 2024, 10:00 am - 1 hour 32 minutesEpisode 4:16: Super PCMan
Coming up in this episode
- Themes Are More Global Than You Think
- Kdenlive Does Some Layering
- The History of LXDE
- To Qt, or not to Qt?
- Then, we call an audible
0:00 Cold Open
2:17 Theme of the Crop
16:22 The Lost Edit
28:11 The History of LXDE
55:51 How'd LXQt and LXDE Go?
1:24:28 Next Time
1:31:13 StingerThe Video Version
https://youtu.be/Y8_rMTmnIXc🔥Warm Up🔥 - AI on the Linux Desktop
KDE's Attack Surface?
Kdenlive gave Leo a hard time
- 24.02.0 was hot off the press and Leo couldn't resist.
- Thankfully 24.02.1 followed to hopefully resolve the issues.
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
The History of LXDE (and some LXQt)
- The LXDE mailing list goes back to 2008
- Ubuntu Lite
- later known as U-lite commited to using LXDE.
- DesktopLinux.com coverage
- Elemental Linux, MoonOS and WattOS followed with a commitment
- A PCManFM review from 2008
- The blog appears
- December 2008 status update
- Sidux adds an unofficial LXDE flavor
- Mandriva adds LXDE
- Fedora too
- LXDE Translation project
- PCMan asks the community for feedback
- FOSDEM 2009
- Lubuntu enters the chat
- LXDE on android phones
- LXDE on Solaris
- LXDE in Centos
- PCLXDE
- First Lubuntu test ISO
- Fedora success
- OpenSUSE status update
- Refactor time
- Rewrite, and make it faster
- Movable desktop icons
- LXDE becomes an available Debian desktop
- A Qt port begins
- Diverse paths
- PCMan develops a "Guide for Migrating from Gtk+ to Qt"
- LXDE-QT preview
- Razor-Qt
- PCMan had this to say about Razor-Qt
- A merger of LXDE-Qt and Razor-Qt
- LXDE-Qt is not bloated
- PCManFM-Qt was in a usable state
- LXQt alpha is announced
- shortly after it was announced.
- Initial FreeBSD support for LXQt
- Comparing Numbers
- LXQt got “full” Qt5 support
- LXQt 0.8 released
- LXDE is still going
- We say goodbye to Razor-qt
- The 0.9 release was caught on snags but eventually released
- LXQt 0.10 followed
- LXQt 0.11 released
- More stats
- LXQt 0.12.0
- LXQt 0.13.0
- The end for GTK 2
- Debian, at the time, set the death date
- GTK 3 would end up being the target for LXDE
- LXQt 0.17
- LXQt 1.0.0 was released!
- LXDE diehards are still keeping things alive for LXDE
- LXQt 2.0 is planned to release in the usual April slot
- Speaking of Wayland
- Quick LXQt History
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Next Time
Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is Xz.
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15 April 2024, 10:00 am - 1 hour 33 minutesEpisode 4:15: Fox, Socks, Inbox, Knox
Coming up in this episode
- Telemetry helps us all
- Immutability blues
- A correction or two
- And more feedback
📽️The video version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y04YTkEC5Y0:00 Cold Open
1:34 The GOOD Telemetry
23:33 Gnome Classic & Friends
31:16 The Incredible Immutables
44:00 A Slight Correction
50:25 A Little Backstory
59:24 mintCast, CKP, FCWN & DHD
1:02:31 So Lightweight!
1:10:23 Another Dive into Notes
1:21:48 Fix GRUB, Add Color
1:29:49 Next Time
1:31:58 Stinger🔥Warm up🔥
Dan Johansen in Matrix
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
Fragmentation? Not on My Watch!
Muesli from Matrix
- Gnome Classic
- Is it healthy co-opetition or fragmentation? Let us know.
- Secureblue
- beginning of the year
- BlueBuild
📣More Announcements📣
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A quick correction
jensmander1223 on Youtube
The history of Dan and Leo
visamp from Matrix
- Leo and Dan both did Linux Spotlight Episodes with our former co-host Rocco. Dan's episode and Leo's
- We plan to drop some more tidbits in the not too distant future.
Peter Jones
- Thanks for the support and for listening.
- Mintcast
- Crowbar Kernel Panic
- Full Circle Weekly
Emiliano from Argentina
- Thanks for the message, the Spanish test and the support.
QOwnNotes & Joplin
Scott
Another Vote for Obsidian. Then Anki, RemNote and LogSeq
DesertDoug
- Doug searched long and hard recently for a note taking app too. Doug bumped into Obsidian, Anki, RemNote and Logseq.
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Gentoo Focus
- Jensmander1223 sent some tips to help Dan with his bootloader issue. Dan will continue to keep working on that. Jensmander also sent along the tip to use colordiff which can highlight differences when changing config files. We plan to go over a few of these on an upcoming livestream.
🔭Next Time🔭
We plan to explore and provide the history of LXDE Desktop Environment.
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space
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18 March 2024, 10:00 am - 1 hour 9 minutesEpisode 4:14: Spill the Tea
Coming up in this episode
- The AI Revolution is Coming
- The History of MATE
- We Read the Tea Leaves
- Then Look to Lighten the Load
The Video
https://youtu.be/rKEIwDb1R9Q0:00 Cold Open
4:09 Embrace the AI Overlords
21:45 The History of MATE
42:22 How Is MATE?
1:05:16 Next Time
1:07:51 StingerPreshow - The Computer Shopper
- Dan is sitting on a gold mine with his collection of Computer Shoppers
🔥Warm Up🔥 - AI on the Linux Desktop
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
The History of Mate
- The first MATE org blogpost
- The initial Arch Linux forum post
- Perberos described the fork as...
- Phoronix August 2011
- ingeek 2011
- Perberos attempted to grow the community on the Ubuntu forums and Linux Mint forums
- Perberos, Clement Lefebvre, Stefano Karapetsas, and Steve Zesch were the founders.
- The initial migration script
- Salix had been one of the very first distributions to headline MATE
- The GNOME team created GNOME Flashback
- MATE University
- GhostBSD features the Mate desktop
- By the end of the year and into 2014, MATE was officially available in Arch, Debian, Fedora, Linux Mint, openSUSE, Sabayon, Salix and Ubuntu.
- Stefano Karapestas stepped up to lead the team.
- Clem had his part-ownership of MATE removed. He had this to say
- The big scoop MATE 1.28 and1.28.1 were recently released!
More 📣Announcements📣
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Next Time
Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the LXDE Desktop Environment.
Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
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- Hausken
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- Jill and Steve
- Larry
- LiNuXsys666
- Livet
- Mark the Saigoneer
- Musical Coder
- Nicholas
- Nick
- Pjol
- sleepyeyesvince
- The Saigoneer
- Tobias
4 March 2024, 11:00 am - 1 hour 22 minutesEpisode 4:13: Passion with Compassion
Coming up in this episode
- We add to the KDE saga
- We search for the humans on the other end of the Internet
- We pour over the Feedback
- We focus on the Gentoo feedback
The Video Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tALGS4Vtei0Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:30 The KDE AMA
7:47 The Truth About KDE 4.0
19:46 AppImage Is Broken in Ubuntu
24:47 There Be Humans Out There
40:07 Reverb Focus!- 41:33 Douglas (Old Mac, New Tricks)
- 49:29 Bruce (Well, Why Don't Ya?!)
- 55:12 Jayden (GNOME Syndrome) 1:04:15 The Care & Feeding of Gentoo (feat. Ryan) 1:15:51 Next Time! 1:20:32 Stinger
🔥Warm up🔥
- There was an KDE AMA on Lemmy and on Reddit
- Troy Unrau, a KDE dev, on the KDE History
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
There are humans on the other end of that Internet
- This conversation was sparked from this Tweet
- Linus gets passionate sometimes
📣More Announcements📣
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Reverb Focus
Douglas Paul
- Douglas does his own 12 step distro hop program.
- Gnome, Fedora, with Extensions and Albert is the landing spot... at least for now.
Bruce Hankins on Why Don't You Use Linux (4:11)
- Two categories of users, average users and power users.
- Average users don't really tinker.
- Power users like to tinker (this is where Leo and Dan fall as well as many of you) but there is a small amount of us.
- Installation of the system and applications is not intuitive.
Jayden on Why Don't You Use Linux (4:11) AAAAAAND a Note Suggestion
- Gnome with gestures and multi-touch are great.
- A couple of note taking apps for Leo to chase - Xournal++ and Rnote
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Gentoo Focus
- Kerneltux sent in his "care and feeding" notes for Gentoo. We plan to go over a few of these on an upcoming livestream.
🔭Next Time🔭
We plan to explore and provide the history of Mate Desktop Environment.
Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space
Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
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- Bruno
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- Johnny
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- Tim
- GrouchyM
Super User
- A.J.
- Advait
- CubicleNate
- Eduardo S.
- Hausken
- Jill and Steve
- Larry
- LiNuXsys666
- Livet
- Musical Coder
- Nicholas
- Nick
- sleepyeyesvince
- The Saigoneer
- Tobias
5 February 2024, 11:00 am - 1 hour 28 minutesEpisode 4:12: Keep it Kool
Coming up in this episode
- Notating the Notes
- The History of KDE
- And Plasma, Straight from the Tap
Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:44 A Note on Notes
22:52 The History of KDE
28:29 History: KDE 1
30:42 History: KDE 2
33:03 History: KDE 3
36:21 History: KDE 4
45:36 History: Plasma 5
51:34 History: Plasma 6
53:17 Plasma 6 Raw (hide)
1:20:49 Next Time: Topics, then MATE
1:27:37 StingerWatch the video
https://youtu.be/CsdW0bDOjIM🔥Warm Up🔥
- Leo hits the books and learns about reference style links in markdown. Thanks go to Dominic and Furicle.
- Eric mentioned MarkText and now the squirrels have Dan chasing that.
- Leo tries settling on Vivaldi Notes.
📣Announcements📣
This program was made possible by:
The History of KDE
- The email on October 14, 1996 to start it all.
- KDE ONE
- K Desktop Environment first real beta release.
- Beta 1 Screenshots
- KDE 1.0 was released on July 12, 1998.
- 1998 Interview of Matthias Ettrich
- KFM turned into Konqueror.
- Konqi
- KDE 2.0
- KDE 2.1
- In April of 2002, KDE 3.0 was released.
- 2003 Interview of Matthias Ettrich
- 2004 Interview of Matthias Ettrich
- KDE Community World Summit 2004 "aKademy".
- 2005 Interview of Matthias Ettrich
- April 8, 2005 Kubuntu.
- KDE 3.5
- KDE Four Core Meeting
- KDE 4
- Oxygen
- 2008 Interview of Matthias Ettrich
- KDE hit the 1,000,000 commit
- Starting from 4.3.4, is a "software compilation".
- November 2009, K Desktop Environment is just KDE, now.
- Fork of KDE 3.5 becomes Trinity Desktop Environment.
- KDE SC 4.5.
- October 2010, an official split from KOffice
- Plasma Active
- KDE Manifesto
- December 2012, a redesigned Konqi.
- KDE release structure changed.
- KDE SC 4.14 the last in the series.
- Plasma 5 and Frameworks 5
- 2015 Wayland enters the room.
- Plasma Mobile
- Plasma Bigscreen
- KDE Neon
- Slimbook
- KDE Plasma is chosen for the Steam Deck when in Desktop Mode!
- The development and chat platforms move to Gitlab and Matrix.
- The first release candidate for Plasma 6
- Plasma 6's release date is planned for February 28th of 2024.
More 📣Announcements📣
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Next Time
Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the Mate Desktop Environment.
Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show.
We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support!
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- Bruno
- Dave
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- Johnny
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- Tim
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Super User
- A.J.
- Advait
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- Eduardo S.
- Hausken
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- Larry
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- Musical Coder
- Nicholas
- Nick
- sleepyeyesvince
- The Saigoneer
- Tobias
22 January 2024, 11:00 am - 1 hour 27 minutesEpisode 4:11: Why Don't You Use Linux?
Coming up in this episode
- The Linux Desktop is the best!
- There are humans on the other end of the Internet.
- We do some Browser spectating.
- Gentoo loses its mind.
0:00 Cold Open
1:43 Why Not Linux?
25:39 Browser Watch!
55:47 Reverb Focus
1:10:18 Community Focus: DB Tech
1:15:03 Gentoo Focus
1:24:26 Next Time: KDE History
1:26:31 StingerWatch the video version:
https://youtu.be/P6irQ0xyv-USo, why don't you use Linux?
- The Mastodon post that sparked our conversation.
- It also got posted to Reddit and this was one reply 🚨Warning NSFW language🚨
Announcements
This program was made possible by:
Browser Watch
- Firefox 120 came with some great new features.
- Firefox 121 got Wayland by default with a fallback to XWayland
- Vivaldi 6.5 introduces the Sessions Panel, improved syncing, and improved notes.
More Announcements
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Reverb Focus
Ian
- Don't forget about Enlightenment which had a recent release.
Vidar
- Big thanks for binging all the back episodes, we hope you stay tuned for more. We might make it to a BSD episode someday.
Zgembo121
- Too many Gnome extensions is too much. Vanilla is the way.
Spacelem
- Started with Gnome 2.4 then jumped to Cinnamon. Gnome is really different from other desktop environments.
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Community Focus - DB Tech
Gentoo Focus
- Last time on LUS Streaming Live
- FYI we do these live on Twitch the day after an episode is released.
- Gentoo Going Binary Thanks Bikhu for the reminder
Next Time
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8 January 2024, 11:00 am - 1 hour 27 minutesEpisode 4:10: GNOME in the Home
Coming up in this episode
- The Browser Watch Leftovers
- The History of GNOME
- And Why Gnome is the best desktop
- And a little holiday break
Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
1:29 Riding the Lightning
16:45 GNOME History: Pre-GNOME
23:01 GNOME History: GNOME 1.x
25:58 GNOME History: GNOME 2.x
33:22 GNOME History: GNOME 3.x
41:31 GNOME History: GNOME 40 and Beyond
48:01 How'd GNOME Go?
1:15:39 Next Time: Topics & KDE
1:26:18 StingerWatch the Video!
https://youtu.be/PxDELH497RoMini Browser Watch
- October 30, Mozilla announces the nightly Deb packages
- November 30, Mozilla announces the developer and beta Deb packages
Announcements
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The History of Gnome
- The email in 1997 to start it all
- Development snapshot 0.13 announcement
- GNOME 1.0 release
- GUADEC
- GNOME OG website
- GNOME revamped website
- HP's HP/UX and Sun's Solaris announce they would be using GNOME as their default desktops.
- GNOME Foundation
- GNOME 2.0 release
- Ubuntu 4.10 ships GNOME 2.8
- GNOME no longer part of GNU
- GNOME was no longer an acronym.
- Gnome 3.0 arrives
- Linus Torvalds noted
- Linus Torvalds, originally critical, returned to using GNOME for his day to day work, but noted that
- Groupon, the couponing company, decided that they would make a tablet and name it... GNOME.
- Again, the target of litigation
- Rothschild Patent Imaging was stripped of its patent rights
- Gnome 40
- The Gnome 40 announcement
- The Gnome 45 announcement
- Original GNOME introduction (~99)
- The Evolution of the GNOME Project
- Using GNOME gmc (GNOME Midnight Commander)
- "A Brief History of GNOME" Presentation Notes
- "A Brief History of GNOME" Video
- GNOME 2.0 - 40 Release Notes
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Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the KDE Plasma Desktop Environment.
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11 December 2023, 11:00 am - 1 hour 27 minutesEpisode 4:09: Giddy Up
Coming up in this episode
- Leo makes me a LUSsh 🍻
- Official standings for a browser
- We strum some reverberations
- Focus on the HQ
- Focus on the sounds
- Forecast the future
Watch the video!
https://youtu.be/-b1gHt0v4q8Timestamps
0:00 Cold Open
2:05 Go to lus.sh
8:38 Fed Up with Ubuntu?
14:20 * Forced Snaps
21:24 * Ads in the Terminal
27:00 * Telemetry?!
29:42 * Ubuntu is Anti-Freedom?
32:21 * Maybe use Linux Mint
34:43 Browser Watch
34:57 * The Vivaldi Flatpak
39:49 * Vivaldi on iOS
42:54 * iOS May Go WebKit Free
47:53 Reverb Focus
48:05 * Ian
53:13 * Dan!
58:26 * TeamLinux01
1:03:16 Community Focus: SteamDeckHQ
1:10:54 Gentoo Focus #5
1:23:46 Next Time: Gnome History
1:26:54 Stingerlus.sh
- .sh is a common Shell Script file extension
- .sh is the first two letters in "show" like its bigger domain name brother
- .sh is also the first two letters in "short"
Announcements
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Why Do We Still Use Ubuntu?
- TLDR we(Leo and Dan) don't mind some of the choices Ubuntu has made but we can appreciate that there are good alternatives for those that want to go a different way.
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Browser Watch!
Vivaldi on Flatpak is Officially Unofficial
Vivaldi is also on iOS
- Vivaldi is on iOS
- It has great features
- The Chromium devs are developing a Blink version for iOS
- Firefox devs are developing a Gecko version for iOS
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Reverb Focus
Ian comments on YouTube about Ed
- You can see the comments on this video
Dan commented about Xfce history, Manjaro and KDE Plasma
- You can watch our Xfce history on YouTube Or TILvids
TeamLinux01 wants to hear about Valve's Linux journey
- Thanks for the feedback. I think this might just be the push we needed to look into the history of Steam and Linux. We're both big fans so it makes sense.
Community Focus - Steamdeck HQ
- Main Website - Steamdeck HQ
- Steamdeck HQ YouTube channel
- Steamdeck HQ on Mastodon
Gentoo Focus
- Last time on LUS Streaming Live
- FYI we do these live on Twitch the day after an episode is released.
Next Time
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27 November 2023, 11:00 am - 1 hour 10 minutesEpisode 4:08: Cholesterol Free
Coming up in this episode
- A little Musing on CDE
- A few answers from the man himself
- The history of XFce
- How it went
- And a new journey
0:00 Cold Open
1:29 Ask Olivier
20:04 Xfce History: In the Beginning (1996)
22:08 Enter XFce (1997)
24:47 The XForms Problem (1998)
25:56 The Third (1999)
29:32 The Fourth (2001-2015)
32:59 The Third, Again (2016-2023)
36:22 More Questions!
45:50 How'd Xfce Go?
1:02:25 Next Time
1:09:45 StingerYou can also watch on Youtube
https://youtu.be/-tuDFBMJsxEAnnouncements
This program was made possible by:
The History of Xfce
- Olivier Fourdan posted a question to a few newsgroups that got things started.
- XForms toolkit
- An early release announcement - 2.3.0
- Changelog for 2.4.0 which shows changes all the way back to the beginning.
- XFce 2.4 User Guide
- XFce 3.2 User Guide
- 2000 Interview - 10 Questions with Olivier Fourdan
- 2001 Interview
- XFce 4.0 announcement September 25th 2003
- xfce goes all lowercase
- 2007 Interview
- 2009 Linux Journal Interview
- 2009 Slashgear Interview
- 2017 Interview with Sean Davis
- Xfce 4.4 - 4.18
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